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we already had a democrat using the tools of corporate branding themselves. president obama was a fantastic brand. he used cutting edge marketing techniques, and many of us felt that behind the claims that he was leading this deep change and transformation that there was not enough change, and that also helped set the table for trump. "afterwards" at 9:00 p.m. next, cia director mike pompeo talks about counterterrorism challenges and threats from north korea, russia, and iran. this was added dinner for security and intelligence. it is just under an hour. >> tonight, i am pleased to announce cia director mike pompeo. as director come -- as director, data collection,
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analysis, covert action, and liaison relationships with foreign intelligence services. before assuming this row, director pompeo was serving in as fourth term representative of kansas'fourth district. he also served in the energy and commerce committees. aerctor pompeo founded fair ospace, where he served as ceo for more than a decade. director pompeo graduated first in his class from the united states military academy at west point and served as a cavalry officer patrolling the iron curtain before the fall of the berlin wall. after leaving active duty, mr. pompeo graduated from harvard
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been anol, having editor of the "harvard law review." will hear more about his vision for the central intelligence agency. of of us in this room, all us, share a common purpose, insuring the safety and security of the united states. it is an important mission, one that we cannot forget because people are counting on us to deliver each and every day. requiresp here integrity, teamwork, and andage, just to name a few, director pompeo definitely embodies all of those qualities. with that, join me in welcoming director mike pompeo. [applause] mr. pompeo: thank you.
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thank you for those very, very kind words. and thank you for inviting me to be with you this evening. i am very much looking forward to it. things toe remarks, share with you, but i look forward to taking questions as well. at least, i think i do. i will let you know what the end of this evening. i would be remiss, too. thank you all for being part of this organization. i spent the bulk of my adult life running a company that made aerospace components. hard metal goods. i never was successful at selling the cia anything, but i tried. . you form an important part of what we do at the cia every day and i want to thank you for that. not too long ago, a very brave warrior came to us after having served 24 years in the united states army. he served with an office in the director of operation that tackles the most sensitive and difficult tasks our agency undertakes.
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a group for which he was imminently well qualified. he brought with him a sterling military record, he had been a ranger. he was among the best and he stood out, for sure. he had character, intellect, grit and courage, excelled at battlefield techniques, physical fitness, and marksmanship. he had an uncanny knack for getting the job done, however difficult the task, and the cia was thrilled to have him join our team. his first overseas, like today for many of our officers, was in afghanistan, working on counterterrorism. after only a few weeks, missions predictablelowed a routine, the planning meticulous, the execution precise. the objective would be achieved. he was asleep one morning, having just finished a mission the night before, when an explosion jolted him awake.
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he quickly gathered his equipment and met up with his colleagues. several hundred yards away, a car bomb had exploded. it was at the main entrance of the compound of afghan soldiers. he threw on his gear, and headed to the fight. arrived, a second car bomb detonated, and enemy fire came streaming in from every direction. instead of seeking cover, the cia officer ran to the action. his colleagues said he had no fear. near the gate, he sought to afghan soldiers lying on the ground. they were wounded in the open. he rushed over and carried them away himself. he was hit during that, once in the shoulder, once in the leg. despite his wounds, he continued to fight. he engaged the enemy, taking shelter behind a set of concrete stairs. he bought to check the enemy
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advance before his colleague could join him. he was a one man wrecking crew. they shredded tree limbs with gunfire. there were handed -- hand grenades and grp's. a hand grenade landed next to him. there was nothing he could do to deflect it. it exploded, inflicting a mortal wound. as he was being called away, our cia officer had a friend call out to him. and as if calling out for duty one more time, he shouted, i'm here. even at the end, the patriot stood ready to serve just as he always had, whenever our country needed him. it is the best our agency has to offer him. today, the agency paces serious threats -- faces serious t hreats, and we are duty bound to confront them. they are all quite tangible.
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our mission demands that we have determined and aggressive espionage. we must have secrets with audacity and have unfair advantage against our enemy at every turn. i am blessed to be the cia director and have thousands of officers working to that same objective, and i am incredibly proud to lead them. we will defend the threats against our nation because they are real. a quick run down of the things we are facing today. first, the scorch of terrorism. the cia has been at the center of the fight since september 11. and today, mosul has fallen the threat remains. we have work to do to defeat isis. the same thing we did to al qaeda is the mission for them. i hope they are listening
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tonight, because the cia will be part of accomplishing that great and noble end. we still have work to do, given isis's willingness to forgo major al qaeda style attacks in favor of widespread, small faults they can pull off with relatively little planning. proud, but never complacent. america has plenty of sidewalks. much in the news is north korea. pyongyang is pushing 24 hours a day to push their development of weapons to reach us in the states and attach a nuclear warhead. as we witnessed last week, north korea conducted its longest launch of a whistle, an icbm. this underscores the great threat. while the president has made clear this is something to be defeated, diplomatic and kinetic responses are difficult to
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achieve. the cia stands ready to help the president achieve his ends. for 20 years, america whistled past the graveyard of the problem of north korea. we do not intend for it to go on that much longer. 20 years, we allowed him to continue developing his weapons systems. it is time for that to cease. in iran, we base an adversary on the march. unlike isis, the islamic republic of iran is a powerful nationstate that remains the largest state-sponsor of terrorism. it increased, in recent years. when you look at what is happening in syria, yemen, and iraq, you can see the threat. aspires to be the power in the region. presents our biggest
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challenge over the long-term, and the cia will form a central role pushing back against this threat. state ande confronted nonstate actors speaking to a rogue democracy and rule of law around the world. this includes groups like a service that recruits spies, rewards those who steal secrets, and use that westernion to subvert democracies. it includes the russian government, the world foremost practitioner of measures. it has been going on for decades. the cyber domain has greatly an accelerated these activities. ofinstead -- instead of attacks, they send rows of ones and zeros. there is much work to do. youbottom line is that
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cannot sit in the director's chair and not see a dangerous world. the threat to the several eyes to world is real. i come from kansas, the heartland, and there is evil in the world. it is not hyperbole or hyperventilation -- or hyperventilation. returning to my question from a moment ago, what does this mean for the cia and how do we accomplish these missions were america and the president? we have to do everything in our power to provide the strategic information for policymakers. of what we do. it puts tremendous pressure on us. we have to be relentless in stealing secrets from our adversaries. we must be world class when it comes to gathering intelligence from across the community, not just the cia. everyone who has a touch point
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that helps provide information that can keep our country safe. when we deliver our assessments, we must do so with complete canned or. -- candor. swear in new officers, i tell them they have a duty to deliver the truth in everything they do. i have spent a little bit of time with the president every -- almost every day, sharing the amazing work the intelligence community has been able to to help-- deliver inform his decision-making. i am proud of the fact i get to be that vessel that communicates that important information to our president. we also today need off reserve -- officers of majestic intellects across a wide range of disciplines. it is taught to do intelligence work. you must absorb vast amounts of information, and it requires perceptiveness.
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and creativity. frankly, we need help from private sectors as well, and i hope we continue to take advantage of the great work done in the private sector to provide aid to our agency to deliver products to our government. we need a nation who understands what our agency does and does not do. i have read all the novels. i sat on the oversight community -- committee for a few years. but it is not possible to truly understand the scope and breadth and capacity of the central intelligence agency without being a part of it, and i view it as one of the most fundamentally important things i can undertake in my time, is to make sure america knows the work we are doing is noble and and centrald lawful to keeping america safe. we have to make sure they know intelligencen agencies, to catch bad guys who
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threaten us all over the world. this, we alllp for have to counter the narrative that the cia is a rogue agency untethered from government. i can tell you that the cia is subject to rigorous oversight and appropriately so, from the within theranch -- executive branch, the legislative branch, and the courts. we have to push back against stories in the media that are misleading, that talk about angst that the officers did not do, and talk about how the media needs to understand that they are not permitted to talk about the things our officers actually do. it is difficult to talk about in the intelligence community. we are limited in what we can say. we have to protect important classified information. sometimes, we cannot set the record straight, when doing so could harm national security, but it is fundamentally important that we retain the trust of the american people, so
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they will give us the resources to perform the critical mission we do each day. we also need a commander in chief who appreciates the work we do and a government that understands it as well. we must work closely with our partners in defense and state, homeland security and the fbi to make sure we have a deep understanding of what is taking place around the world. i have now spent nearly six months working for president trump. he is a demanding customer, and frankly, we like it that way, because it shows he values what we do. let me give you a brief example to illustrate that point. back in april, i got a call from the president. he wanted to talk about disturbing images he saw coming in from syria. i am sure you saw many of them yourselves, innocent civilians writhing in agony, the apparent victims of chemical attacks.
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the president wanted to know exactly what had happened, and he wanted to know quickly. towe assembled a crack team diagnose and understand what had taken place. they began to piece together evidence. presidentay, the called his cabinet together. as we sat down, he turned to me and asked what we had learned. several of us shared what we knew. keep -- we told him the intelligence committee determined chemical weapons have been launched by the syrian regime. the president caused a moment and said, are you sure? i will admit to you, it took my breath away. [laughter] pompeo: i hope it did for some of you as well, but i knew the intelligence committee -- community had solid evidence to count on, and i was able to look at him and say we have high confidence that is what truly
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took place. .e never looked back he made one of the most hisequential decisions of administration, launching an airstrike against the very airfield where the attack originated. finally, for us to be successful in confronting today's daunting array of security threats, there is one thing the security agency must do and that is improve and adapt to the changing times and changing threats. i am proud to say the agency's operating full throttle with regard to that today. i have taken over an agency with great capability that needed the bridal removed to accelerate. we will set priorities. missionreated two new centers, aimed at putting a dagger in the heart of the korean problem and the problem in iran. it sets the priorities, makes
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clear that the president asked a specific set of information he needs to perform the tasks he views as most vital security.ion's it reminds me of when i ran a small business. there were tasks we had to perform at a high level of excellence, but the company might not exist if we fail. the government is different. the immediate feedback loop is not always there, but the same organization that i tried to run as a business owner sits before me today. i am so proud to be leading it. i am demanding excellence from everyone at all times, and i am finding that everyone there wants to achieve it. will not always succeed. there will be bad days, but we have to accept the risk and our agency to be successful. if you are not coming up short
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at times, you're probably not reaching hard enough, and we will always do that. reach hard every day. taking office now just 24 weeks ago, i have seen first hand why cia officers are considered a national treasure. they accomplish remarkable things every day and do so with kurds, determination, and humility. i thank them, they say they are just doing their jobs. they say they signed up to do this mission, and indeed they did. their dedication is to a cause larger than themselves, and that makes the cia very special and is why i am so confident in our future. thate no doubt whatsoever our country will turn to the cia many times, and we will prevail against today's adversaries. thank you for having me today. i look forward to your questions. [applause]
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>> thank you director pompeo for sharing those insights. before we get started, with the moderated discussion and q&a, just a reminder there are cards on your table. if you have got questions that were generated by that great speech we just heard, write those questions down. we are going to have amazing interns circulating around the audience. they are going to be looking for your questions. they are also all looking for jobs. [laughter] got a job andhave you want an amazing person for it, one of these interns may be it. if you have not finished your
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dinner, i think we are just getting dinner out there now. we will remind you to try and eat quietly as we will continue with the q&a. so now, it is my pleasure to introduce the man who truly needs no introduction, charlie allen. cia, rising to its highest ranks. four years as under secretary of homeland security or intelligence and analysis. ok, folks, quiet down over there. senior intel advisor. harder atbody works the business of intelligence than charlie allen. over to you, charlie. [applause] mr. allen: thank you.
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thank you for those remarks. this is really well received, because we are a very selfish -- selfless group of people. it is inspiring to hear how well you have taken over in the first six months that you have been director. you talked a little bit about the scope and the threats that run from north korea to russia to china to proliferation to international organized crime, which is a whole new world that is getting more and more vicious. how do you view all this? how do you feel the agency is changing to meet the speed and velocity of the threats we are facing? it is really a very different world. it is a more static cold war
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that i worked many years ago. mr. pompeo: i appreciate the question. i was a cold warrior once, too. i still try to use the phrase russia and not soviet union. phrase.familiar you have to be fast. our competitors, our adversaries, are really quick. i was asked how i thought the enemy would respond to a particular action that america was contemplating. i said, they will not have a meeting like this one. [laughter] mr. pompeo: they will live quickly, and we have to move quickly as well. we have to understand the adversary and away that could truly reflect -- in a way that that we arereflect not worshiping our agency. we understand the mission and we are able to move against our enemies quickly. you have to understand the
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priority set. you have to understand how it can change. thisave to make sure, and is counterintuitive, you have to build the reservoir of talent and resources. you have to have the right people and the right technologies. i try to spend a little time each day to make sure we are taking care of things long after i am the director of the cia, putting in place the tools for five and 10 and 13 years from now. if we try to build it in to that -- in two years when it is a 10 plan, it is too late. we need to meet the demands of the future. mr. allen: on the sixth of january this year, the cia, the fbi, and the national security an assessmented that said the russian federation through cyber and other covert means tried to influence the
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results of the u.s. election. do you have any comments on that particular assessment? [laughter] mr. allen: how do you feel about the current sanctions against the russians, and what is the outlook? as we go downstream with the president? mr. pompeo: i will leave the policy issue like sanctions to others. it is not my task. but our adversaries trying to mock with our elections -- trying to muck with our elections is very real. who seemedthose aghast and shocked that russians the trying to impact outcome they preferred on american democracy. they have been on this hell of a long time. we have a task to ensure we
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defend against it, not just the russians, but the chinese -- lots of hacking in my time in the oversight committee. do it. seen the iranians the list of those seeking the demise of western democracy is long. any of them will use the tools that are the typical one second talked about, but many of them will use active measures in the cyber security, and that -- not only to do this well defensively, but how to respond to those attacks as well. mosul has director, fallen. we know we know that raqqa is being surrounded and will fall. you speak about thebattle with -- about the battle against isis and slowly being annihilated in cities in iraq and syria. what about the diaspora?
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are we prepared to work ofour -- to work with our european allies and others to -- because evidently, isis, the islamic state, will come after us to damage the west and damage the united states. >> three tasks. i mean, the short answer is, yes, not only are we prepared to work with our european allies, we've been doing it. i spoke with one of my european counterparts today. i have worked closely with him in the first six months. we'll work with them to try to help them secure their countries against homeland threats as well. mission one, to make sure there's few people in the diaspora as possible. so, first mission, kill as many as you can, because it is the
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case, they'll continue the fight. second, we need to make sure that as been gel community we do our work so we can track them wherever theygo. there are isis affiliates in half a dozen countries. some loosely affiliated with eye -- with isis, some deeply connected. we need to take down those networks and this is a task that pulls less to the cia, -- that falls less to the cia, more to others. we have to make sure we secure america against isis here as well. if we do those thing tryings with elan and aggressively, we'll push back and we'll win. >> the intelligence community is supposed to tell the president about threats and try to avoid surprise. as an old officer of the cia, we failed in some cases. history is a little checkered on
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our ability to forecast, to give advance warning. to be able to understand the threats before we are in extreme crisis. i've been in extreme crisis at the cia where we failed to give advance warning. how about this world you talked about earlier, the digital world, where we have machine learning, we have big data analytics? how do you feel the agency is -- along with the community is positioned to do a better job of getting ahead of the threat? >> it's tough. i am confident when we look back 25 years from now the history will still be checkered and i'm sure we will miss a few, but i've seen an awful lot of good work done. some tactical, but also seen some really good work that has been done taking done operational and strategic threats as well, identifying them, preparing all of u.s. government to think about how to be prepared when the threat actually crosses of the horizon and is on top of us. it mean wes have to be hard, we have to continue to devote the right resources that america
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will have to devote resources that are so precious but if we do it well, we can get it right. >> that's great. early in the administration we saw a good deal of press about morale at the agency and the administration was not being kind to the intelligence community. i take my own sort of private poll in talking to officers at the agency, i feel the morale is very high, frankly, at langley, virginia. could you give us a little more color or understanding that the -- understanding about the president and his top advisers and how he takes the briefings each day? >> sure. i've traveled several dozen stations in six months, maybe a couple -- a bunch, one of the highlights is to immediate with officers that are working around the world to defeat the bad guys, and these are young, talented, aggressive people who
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are just dying get to out there and crush it. morale his high and i'm thrilled to see that. that with respect to the president, i talk about the fact i'm with him almost every day in the oval office, delivering him both things that are really current, trying to prepare him for the things right in front of him and also working hard to ensure we're building a baseline of knowledge in the same way i'm working to build my baseline of knowledge. it is hard work. the president is a tough customer. he asks hard questions and we hope if we don't have the answer that day, we can get back to him and make sure we deliver it to him. i've read the story, too. i can only tell you my experience, and the experience of the officers -- my officers who have been with the president as well. he not only values and appreciates the people but is counting on to us deliver for him, and i'm counting on my team
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to deliver for him as well. >> that's great. one thing that bothers me as an intelligence officer is what we seem to be occurring across government, including capitol hill, is a sort of culture of leakage. you went after wikileaks a few minutes ago, and you did it at csis. is there anything more we can and must do? because i think really we're putting the country at risk, putting sources and messages which we helped create years ago. do you have any further comments on this culture of leakage that has to stop at some point. [applause] >> charlie, there's always more you can do. one of the first things i did is the head of counterintelligence now report to me. it was intended to make sure that i was personally part of
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making sure we were doing cia well but i wanted to make sure everyone in the organization understood that it was an enormous priority. we have to get that right. i think we can. there are things we can do inside our open buildings and in our screening process that will decrease the likelihood we have threat from inside. and then, too, things we can do to make sure that others aren't stealing our secrets, those from outside. we have an obligation to do that. it's enormously frustrating to read things in the press you now -- press that you know are not to be there, -- that you know ought not to be there, and i hope it's the case this government will ensure that every man's evidence is available to prosecute those who violated the most fundmental principle of securing that information and keep our officers, their families outcome assets and our nation safe. [applause]
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>> you have worked your west point, farmer, then private sector and chen the congress. you saw lot of the private sector, as ran old intelligence officer we're not as agile in dealing with the private setter -- private sector and the motivations of what drives the private sector to private practice. what are the things the intelligence community should learn or has learned in order to be nor -- nimble agile? >> i think it's learned quite a bit -- one thing the agency doesn't benefit from is the private sector, if now perform poorly, doesn't take throng figure it out. customers vanish, profits go away and the forked of directors wants to know what is going on. the feed back loop is not clear. my efforts have when to take the same basic free sense of
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leadership i had when i ran the two businesses i ran, which is first make sure everybody understands the commander's intent and make sure they understand what the president or i am looking for and be very clear about it, unabashed to make sure they know their expect mission and expectations. -- make sure they know their mission and expectations, and then knock down barriers. in some of the most talented people everywhere here. this book i swore in 70 more officers, great young people from every background you can imagine in america, and i think my duty to them is to make sure i tell them what it is we accept -- what it is we expect from them, set them down the path, knocking everything out of their bay and then reward them if if -- reward them if they succeed. the same thing you do in the business environment. >> how important is traditional human source intelligence? it's a world that has changed so rapidly. cyber as ameans of acquiringings -- acquiring information. at the same time, human
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intelligence strikes me -- traditional espionage is crucial to the success and surety of the accoutrement what of your views, having looked at the agency, traveled abroad, talked to stations and people in the war zones. >> we have human intelligence incredibly well. it requires young daring men and women willing to good to rick -- willing to go to difficult places and attack their adversaries. we have a whole host of them working for us and we have to do it well. it's more digital today. with all the digital footprints
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-- to get an anonymous officer to the right police at the right moment. it's trickier but just as important. also the case, and we work closely with our signals brothers. it is almost always the case we're working closely together. whether you call it signals enabled human, we're out there beside each other making sure we're delivering the right information. it takes human beings with the capacity to get to the most critical places at the right time and we have to make surewe -- make sure we are the world's best at it. >> how effective -- how do you view the five i? i worked very closely with an information sharing and directing operations with our close allies, of course we have other relationships around to the world. how do you work on the foreign relationships and the health of the relationshipships from the cia and the rest of the community to colleagues over overseas? >> i'm asked what is most surprising about my numeral? one thing i am always mentioning
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is how much time i spent talking to our partners around the world. those are helping us do our mission and we cannot do it without them. our partners occupy a special place and have the a special relationship, and that is central to what we do. but make no mistake, the united states government depends deeply on having great partners who are willing to share action with us, willing to run operates with us, -- run operations with us, willing to help us achieve our priorities and that means america has to do the same thing for them and i have been incredibly, happily surprised at how many great partner wes have that are willing to help america do the most difficult intelligence tasks around the world. we're in real good shape. [applause] >> that's great.
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one of the things, you have andrew holeman here today and at teresa and others. they're trying to get technology quickly inside the agency and inside the others are leaders of the community are trying to get it inside their own agencies. commercial technology is moving at a very fast case -- very fast pace and consumer technologies are moving even faster. how can the cia keep pace with the adoption of new and advanced commercial technology? >> we have to embrace it. welcome it, encourage it, be willing to pay for it. we have to put the agency in a place where private enterprise understands that there are real needs in the intelligence community and to help us deliver against it. i think we can do it. i think we do it pretty well but there is room for enormous improvement. we have to be out trying to identify the way the agency has
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done well but being able to identify best in class technology and make sure we're not wedded to doing something only because we invented it inside of the building. rather be prepared to adopt world-class technology when it helps us to achieve our ends. if we do it, some of you will be richer and we will all -- america will be more secure. >> is an old intelligence officer, the cia is resistant to structural change. i remember we had a deputy director of plans who was their operation side and it was jim's lessons are who was briefly director, the director of operations, it seemed like a terrible thing to do. i remember old officer saying why would we ever give away the same ddp? you had your predecessor, a modernization program which made cigna can change. what are your views on further modernization for cia? you just talked about senior centers you have had an putting
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a dagger in the heart. i thought that was a wonderful metaphor. what are your views? >> that was not a metaphor. >> surreal. >> i have not banned but i have suggested the banning of the word "modernization" at the cia, because it suggests an endpoint. there isn't. if we are going to do this well, just like when i ran a business, if the product was in selling, we needed something new tomorrow. we just moved onto things customers really want to. the first -- the same way the agency has to be ever-changing. when we talk about modernization, it is like you are going to go through some transformation.
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i have urged people, those of you who are sitting with one of our officers at the table, ask them if they have our chart printed on the wall. if they do, let me know because i've asked folks not to print the thing. [laughter] >> i have done that it really because we have to be faster and nimble enough to go after our adversaries. anarchy does not succeed. we shouldn't worship and altar of this thing called modernization and we should just make sure we understand mission and we are taking the monetary resources, the technological resources, the human resources, applying to get that problem set with enormous vigor and if we do that, we will be fine. anytime you have a structure, i hope each and every day we are tearing down some piece of that and building a new piece. >> that is great [applause] . -- that is great. [applause] you have my levine is tonight. he just appointed her. she is an old friend.
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how are you doing yucca you talked about the need -- you doing? you talked about the need for diversity. our getting people that are we getting -- are we getting the people we need? >> the short answer is yes. i think about getting that and making it even better, whether it is language skills or cultural understanding -- whatever the talents that may be, we have to make sure we have it right at the front end, so that 10 years from now, that next set of leaders, someone who will run our center 20 years from now, we don't have an opening where we have 30 or 40 people highly qualified that -- highly qualified for that. it is tricky to do. lots of you are willing to pay people a lot for the same telesat. just for the same talent set.
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the great thing about living in america is because their people who are willing to sacrifice that. the most interesting set of tasks that anyone can undertake is being an officer p we have remarkable people have sacrificed a great deal to do that. for those of you who are watching, come join us and we need great men and women willing to do great things. -- come join us. we need great men and women willing to do great things. [applause] >> director, if you had to name three things that you learned being director of cia that you did not really fully appreciate when you were a member of the house member on intelligence, what would be the major points -- now you're inside langley? it is such a huge task. what do you think the most important take away is? >> most of what i have learned i cannot share. [laughter]
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>> what have i learned? i talked about the importance of our foreign liaisons and the important work they do. i watched how the united states stands up and how difficult that task is and how critical it is we work to be better not only inside our building and inside the intelligence community, but make sure we are addressing the needs of this government to be prepared. it is an enormous undertaking. we have too many positions in our government not filled. all of the national security team can be in place. the last thing i would say is, the officers who work at the cia do this in a way that is different. i was a soldier for a few years. when soldiers deploy, families come around, the communities come together. we have to make sure we have an obligation and we have to make
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sure we do our best to take care of our officers and their families. we have to make sure that we don't forget how much sacrifice the families are making on behalf of america. left to make sure we do that at a level of excellence that honors their commitment to america. [applause] >> the president has met with xi jinping at mar-a-lago and the g 20. china continues to be aggressive, at least from my perspective in the south china sea and in other areas. you have any generalized comments you can make without getting into classified realms? >> with respect to? >> china. >> yeah.
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[laughter] >> it is a big country. >> a big country with a lot of challenges. the chinese present significant threat to the united states. their expansionism throughout south china sea. they can possibly have greater economic power that is against the united states. we have to make sure -- they have an enormous cyber capability. first and foremost, i truly hope that we can convince them that it is in their best interest to make sure that kim jong un no longer has nuclear weapons as well. [applause] >> they have the capacity to
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make a big difference and it is the president's expectations that they will deliver. >> that is great. the issue of the muslim ban, is that -- it is not a muslim ban. is that hurting us in any way? recruitment or bringing in talent? >> no. >> that is a good answer. [laughter] >> one of the things that does bother me, now i am working in the private sector was i didn't realize just how poorly government and the intelligence community included in doing contracts, getting from a proposal to rfp test the whole issue of getting a contract. [applause] >> great question for the evening. >> it is interesting.
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i remember the first time we did a contract with an entity. we were a tear to supplier -- we were a tier 2 supplier. i was told that it is binary. look, we have to make sure that we are delivering a contract that makes sense, that protects the taxpayers interest, that serves the cia's goal, but honestly i have seen the bureaucracy create nightmares, that is more paperwork for no benefit. i am hopeful that we can do that anyway that is more positive. if we can match that, that will serve america very well. >> ok, i think we have time for one more question. in 2011, the primary threats were the same, russia, china, north korea. we had the arab spring and we had it in december 2010.
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the person writing the question -- there were celfin modulations -- there were self and modulations. it was a need to get ahead of the threat to anticipate to see societal changes you're doing a lot of work -- changes. you are doing a lot of work. big data platforms and ways to detect this early on, patterns and finding what rumsfeld used to call "the unknown unknowns." any further comments? >> no, there are lots of really smart people and really good technologies that can help us supplement the human intellect in ways that can let us be a
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little more predictive. we can also make sure that we are not -- drink our own bathwater. we are currently challenging our assumptions, the platforms on which we build our analytic products. if we do that, we will serve the country well. don't, we will fail all too often to keep america safe. >> director pompeo, thank you for this evening to you have a lot of friends out here in the private sector. [applause] >> thank you for coming. >> got bless you. -- god bless you. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] >> washington journal live every day with news and policy issues that impact year. common, -- coming out, the
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security of the u.s. energy grid. former u.s. ambassador to iraq james jeffrey will talk about the significance of iraqi forces retaking the previously isis held city of mosul w. join the discussion. >> as the publicans work on a health care law replacement bill the wall street journal is reporting to major associations representing insurance companies are opposed to an amendment from ted cruz. his proposal would allow insurance companies to sell any type of plan as long as they offer one that fits the requirements set by the affordable care act. letter, the blue cross blue shield association and america's health insurance plan called it
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unworkable and warned it would undermine protections for those pre-existing medical conditions, and coverage for people enrolled in the individual market. where support lies among republicans. >> alex rogers is a correspondent with national journal. what are the next steps in the senate replace the current health care law? >> the congressional budget office will revise the new bill on monday. we could see the first procedural vote on tuesday. if they can get 50 republican senator as we could see the extended voting session throughout the week with a final vote on passage of the end of the work


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