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1, the chair declares the house in recess until noon today. cust
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service representative a break. >> [ applause ] >> so on any given day, if i am having an issue with something on craigslist and i pick up the phone and call the number, and i might get you? >> not these days. what is happening is that typically people will find me through email, through social media, that kind of thing. typically i gather enough information for the mainline customer service team and i will pass it on to them. >> why is it important to you to stay involved in that way? >> i have seen company founders have issues in two different ways. one is founders syndrome, people who are good at starting something, but they are not good at continuing it. that is why in 2000, after people helped me understand that i suck as a manager, i
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turned it over. yeah, and the other thing is that, when you drift away from every day kind of company functions, when you drift away from your customers, that is like drifting away from reality. you just lose touch and that's not good for anyone. >> was there any one major event that was the catalyst for a you found in craig newmark philanthropies and thousand 16? >> it kind of just happened, increasingly, increasingly, and then at some point, i hit a reflective tipping point and said hey, i've got to get my act together. because i had something called the -- and it failed in terms of branding and i needed to get a lot more serious. to stand up, and like i like to say, put my money where my
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mouth is, and that is how and, as determined by point -- determined by coin toss, corey stewart has the first opening statement. >> thank you all. i would like to thank my wife maria and our two sons for their support. the united states senate is broken. they are not talking with one another. they are yelling at each other. republicans are blaming democrats and democrats are blaming republicans. nothing is getting done. including with senator kaine. he is an automatic no to everything president trump proposes. when the president proposed increasing our military budget, senator kaine voted no.
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when president trump proposed increasing the modest housing allowance for military, senator kaine voted no. and when the president successfully fought for a tax cut for all of you, senator kaine voted no. senator kaine votes no on everything. i, on the other hand, have a long track record of 12 years, in the most diverse locality in northern virginia, of actually getting things done. working across party lines, working across racial and ethnic lines, to drop houses, to rebuild our public safety, to build schools and roads. that is why i ask for your vote. thank you very much. >> thank you for doing this. i want to thank the sponsors for hosting. i am happy to be joined by my
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wife, my son and daughter-in- law. i am especially thrilled to be joined by my friend, former senator john warner. john, we are very proud of your service. elections are about choice and there is a clear choice virginians face in november. it comes down to our very themes. i am running on an upbeat theme, a virginia that works for all. my opponent is working on an angry and divisive theme, take virginia back. in my 34 years in virginia, i am proud to work with senators and administrations of both parties to get things done. expanding medical research. building ships to create virginia jobs and keep us safe. fighting the scourge of opioid addiction. recognizing virginia tribes.
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his theme is divisive. bitter attacks. trafficking in bizarre conspiracy theories challenging president obama's birth certificate. championing days the themes could not be different. do we want a virginia that works for all or do we want to take virginia back? that is what is at stake. >> all right, thank you both. you're good at keeping the time so far, let's see if we can keep it up. all right, i want to begin with you and the big story in the nation capital. -- in the nation's capital. there are multiple allegations now against supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh. christine blasey ford has brought the most significant accusations. is there anything that she or
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judge kavanaugh could say tomorrow that would change your mind about her? >> this is the thing. this is beneath the dignity of the united states senate. it is not just democrats, republicans as well. that needs to end. we have dragged america through this horrible spectacle in the united states senate. and who is doing it? 100 and the senate, 435 in the house. they are guilty in my perspective. here is what they are doing. they spent $17 million to quash accusations of sexual harassment against them, and now they are going after judge kavanaugh .36- year-old allegations, when he was in high school? who are they to judge? who are they to judge? 268 separate allegations of sexual harassment, sexual
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assault and other misdeeds by the united states senate and they are covering it up. >> let me tell you, when doctor ford came out with her allegations, you said they were a bunch of --. you waited a day and then tweeted this out, what's next, will someone find that judge kavanaugh pulled a girls pigtails in first grade? there is no equivalent. to minimize the seriousness of these allegations. there are now four accusers. you are going after the accusers, as you always do, trying to demean them. we have young people watching us tonight. people who have suffered from sexual assault or are suffering from it. they need to know if they bring forward a charge, we want to
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help them. we will take them seriously. we will get to the bottom of the charge. they don't need to be shut down by the kind of name-calling you have done against doctor ford. >> talk about demeaning women, what about the $17 million you paid in hush money for the complaints against you and other members of the united states congress? that didn't happen 36 years ago, that happened as late as last year. senators like al franken and others. he is gone, thankfully, but there are others. how come you want release the list of all of these allegations of the senators and members of the house that sexually harassed women, for who you paid $17 million in hush money to shut them up? >> you are trying to make it sound like there were complaints against me, and that is completely false. you just think you can make it
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up, without any facts. >> who is making things up? >> i have been working to reform what is an antiquated policy to make it better and i have been the one that forced the senate ethics committee to release the information about the settlements that have been paid. any settlement that has been paid should be on the table and i have been on the front of that. >> not only do you oppose brett kavanaugh, but you voted against neil gorsuch. doesn't it proof that you are making an ideological decision over a basic qualification decision when it comes to supreme court nominees? >> here is what i do when a supreme court nominee is out there. i take everything they have written. articles and judicial opinions. i have them come to my office, i look them in the eye and ask them questions i have.
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i wait until the hearing is over. based on all of that, i make a decision. i have appointed judges to the virginia supreme court. i have tried cases in all courts, including the supreme court. i take this very seriously. with justice gorsuch, i was concerned he had an -- had a habit of going out of his way on one particular topic. women's freedom and healthcare decisions. he would go out of his way to be a judicial activist and i didn't think we needed him on the court. what i did was i did my homework. you don't see me coming out of the gate and trashing somebody for calling them a name, before i even know the fact. >> 60 seconds, mister stewart. >> it is not just judge gore search and judge kavanaugh. it is 17 appointments by the
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president of the united states to the cabinet and other appointments. tim kaine automatically points -- automatically votes no. when i say this, politifact, which is not a friend of mine were most republicans, even they say it is true. tim kaine votes automatically against the president of the united states. when the president wanted to reduce taxes, he voted no. when the president wanted to improve salary for the military, he voted no. you voted no and now you are lying about it. you voted against it on january 19, senator. people can see through this. you are voting against every single thing that president trump does, even if doing so hurts virginia and virginians. >> let's have a hoed -- have a whole debate on that. i have voted for many of
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president trump's nominees. many of them. president trump assigned about 17 pieces of legislation i have written. he has signed six pieces of legislation i have written since we last debated at the homestead. i will advance with president trump everywhere we can. career and technical education. battling opioids. but i will defend the values of the country and the commonwealth when i need to. >> quickly, would you have voted to confirm justice roberts or justice alito? >> you know, i would do the same thing. >> you don't want to say? >> i have a big one on my head right now. we have a huge decision about the supreme court that we need to make right now and i have been clear where i am on judge kavanaugh. >> let me turn to the topic of transportation. president trump promised a
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massive job creating road and bridge fixing infrastructure plan that would benefit virginia and other states. it has gone nowhere. the president says he is the dealmaker. where do you think he went wrong on this and if elected would you be in favor of direct federal funding of virginia projects? >> yes i would. you know something, when tim kaine was running for governor, i thought he is a democrat, but i can work with him. he has a local background, maybe he will be reasonable. he campaigned in 2005 on infrastructure, especially here . you know how much infrastructure was built under his watch? zero. not a single nickel for transportation, road construction or anything else got done in virginia when he was governor. now, after six years in the united states senate, not a single nickel for virginia
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infrastructure. we are still stuck in gridlock in northern virginia and across the state, because he didn't get the job done in his 10 years as governor and in the united states senate. 10 years. what a missed opportunity. all he did is give away the toll road and shut down the rest stops. >> well, if you walk out of this building, there is something called the silver line that you will see, right when you walk out. that is something. that is something. when i came as governor, that was on the drawing board and had been for 20 years. i told my secretary of transportation, for the good of the economy, we will have that thing under construction by the time i am done. as a senator, i worked to get the funding developed and beyond.
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down through prince william, you can see the extension. i worked on all of those projects. we can do transportation in washington, if the president would stop trying to repeal everybody's healthcare. if he decided to devote to infrastructure what he has devoted to taking away the healthcare of millions and millions of people, we could do a transportation bill. but you are cheering him on at every occasion. >> there you go. blaming republicans, blaming the president, blaming everybody else and getting nothing done. now he is trying to take credit for what others accomplished. when he was governor, he tried to raise taxes four times. republicans wouldn't go along with it. not even democrats would go along with it. so what he did was shutdown the rest stops, out of pure spite. now we have $40 poles, because he refused to do his job.
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>> that is the next question. senator kaine, when asked in a poll what concerns them the most about democrats in congress, gridlock was the top answer. if democrats gain control, would you work to block president trump's agenda or lead democrats to work toward compromise? >> what a great question. my goal will be to do what i have been doing. i have a lot of legislation to president trump's desk, battling opioids, recognizing virginia indian tribes. i wrote the bill to expand the navy and got that through to create jobs and improve national security. i will continue to do what i have been doing. i am one of the senators who is always working across the aisle
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to try to find partnerships to get bills to president obama and now to president trump. that is what i will continue to do. if the president proposes things that are bad, sure i will stand up against them. if they are bad for virginia or the country, i will stand up against them. what we need to see is people who know how to work together across the aisle. that is not what my opponent does. he looked at the democrats and call them all socialists. you can't call the other side names and expect them to work with you. >> he is going to do what he has been doing for the last six years. that means nothing is going to get done. nothing. he talks about working across the party aisle, but all you have heard tonight is blaming the other side. blaming president trump. blaming the republicans. that is what he did as governor. he said there was no money left for transportation in virginia. the governor was elected, he comes in, and my predecessor, the director of the virginia
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department of transportation did an audit. they found out his administration was sitting on road improvement money. he would not spend it on road construction. he kept it hidden. we finally started getting some road projects moving in virginia after he was out of office. the senate gets nothing done. you want to take credit for the navy? the one you voted against on january 19? >> i wrote the bill and help to get a budget deal done to fund the 365 ship navy in march. corey stewart said to president trump, please veto that bill. veto the bill that funds the navy. veto the bill that increases pay to our troops. look, it is about working across the aisle. that is why when i was
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governor, i was able to do it so we were the best managed state in america. the best state for business. the best state to raise a child. but under your watch, class sizes are going up. slashing the health department. >> if democrats take control of congress, particularly the house, and impeachment inquiry might begin. how will you work across the aisle if they are working on impeachment and you think they should be? >> we need to protect the mueller investigation. protect it so it can pursue any evidence of criminal culpability by anyone, but also to tell the story of what happened so we can protect our election. i don't think it should be jumping to a conclusion before the investigation is done. on this i differ from my opponent. my opponent has called the investigation a witchhunt, again and again. he said it needs to be
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terminated and that would be a disaster. >> since you invoked him, i will give you 30 seconds. >> you heard what he will do. democrats take control of the senate, you know what you will find? nothing is going to get accomplished. they will totally stop the president's agenda of making tax cuts permanent. you will find a total stop on rebuilding the military. building a wall for the security at our border. dianne feinstein will be chairman of the judiciary committee. how many of the presidents appointments will get through then. bernie sanders will be the chairman of the budget committee. how much good policy will be accomplished with a socialist in charge? >> next question. >> in my conversations with virginia republicans, including david ramadan, they mentioned the two different corey stewart's. the one who entered as a pro- business figure and the other
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who has made immigration and confederate statues
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>> you have become a very bitter partisan figure. you are against nching the president is trying to do. look what he wants to do. he and bernie sanders want medicare for all. you know what that means? he wants to take it all. out of your wallets. it's a $32 trillionle it over 10 years. that means your income taxes would have to double. how many of you out there are willing to pay double your federal income taxs? how many of you can afford it? the last time they said they were going to fix t. they said our premiums were going to go down. they went up by 105%. americans didn't get more. you said deductibles were going to go down. they went up. we got less. americans are getting less under
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your program. >> 30 seconds, senator. senator kaine: when corey stewart says he wants to repeal the affordable care act. or gut medicaid, you better believe him. that's what he did in prince william county. he tried to eliminate the public health department and he cut public health funding by 35% when disease was going up. no, corey, i'm not a co-sponsor of bernie's single payer bill. i think americans should have the option to on the exchange a policy that medicare would create. and because medicare doesn't have to cover a profit margin or pay return shareholders or pay taxes, it would be an affordable choice for every american. >> julie with the next question. julie: virginia is poised to become the 38th state to ratify the equal rights amendment, first approved by congress back in 1972. if that happened, the ball is back in congress' court. where do you stand on this issue? should the e.r.a. be part of the onstitution?
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>> these left wing liberals like tim kaine keep trying to bring a failed idea. mr. stewart: what the e.r.a. would have meant back then was that women would have been subject to the draft. they would have been drafted in the military whether they had a choice or not. tate it would mean potentially lawsuits. we already have federal, state, and local laws against discrimination. we need better enforcement of those laws. but adding the e.r.a. just good for the litigators, good for the lawyers, i'm a lawyer, but it's bad for america. it's bad for america. it would mean that men would be able to sue to get into women's athletic programs. do we want that? think of the unintended consequences of adopting this amendment before we do t it would have bad ramifications for this country. senator kaine: good for lawyers, good for litigators. how about good for women? how about good for women? of course the e.r.a. should be
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ratified. i hope virginia is the state that puts it over. what do we have to fear from putting the equality of women in the constitution? when we're a nation that has embraced our north star, the jeffersonian equality principle. of course we should do it. your parade of these worries about lawsuits, think women should be valued. i don't think dr. ford should be attacked and called a bunch of crap when she puts allegations of serious sexual assault on the table. i don't think our allegation should be demeaned of pulling somebody's pigtails. i don't think you should have gone down to campaign for roy moore to be a united states senator after he had been outed as a predator, serial predator of young teenage girls. these actions do not suggest respect for women. and that makes your opposition to the e.r.a. pretty easy to understand. >> 30 seconds. mr. stuart: -- mr. stewart: talk about women
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close to home. right in the body you serve in. the united states senate. 268 allegations of sexual harassment against you and the other members of the united states senate and the house of representatives. why hasn't that come to light? senator kaine: it has. you know the numbers. you had to get it somewhere. >> mr. stewart. finish in 30. mr. stew washt: every other member in the senate and house is trying to sweep this under the rug. meanwhile you talk to us about focusing on sexual harassment going on with the judge 36 years ago potentially. meanwhile, you're not willing to clean your own house. and disclose the identities, the members of the senate and house who have sexually harassed and potentially -- >> thank you, mr. stewart. senator, 30 seconds. senator kaine: it should all be disclosed. when the senate ethics committee was refusing to disclose the material, that the house ethics committee had disclosed, it was
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my pressure that led the ethics committee to meet and decide to put the facts out. if there are additional facts that need to be disclosed. put it all out there. but you cannot stand here after you have been accusing dr. ford of name-calling her after you just said you don't support the equal rights amendment and pretend you are a champion. >> thank you, senator. aaron. aaron: as you know northern virginia made a strong push to become a finalist for amazon's second headquarters and thousands of jobs that would come with it. but some are concerned that amazon would draw talent away from existing businesses, hike already high housing costs, and further strain roads and metro. where do you stand on brigham done to northern virginia? senator kaine: i hope we get t i want virginia to win any competition we're in. that's why when i was governor, that forbes named us the best state for business every year i was governor. pew certainty or states,
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education, best state to raise a child. if there is a competition, i want virginia to win it. will there be challenges? there will be. just like senator warner, you were in the senate when we did the brack round in 2005. we added a lot of critical missions to support belvoir. was that good? yes. challenges? yes. we'll have to pull together find funding for transportation, pull together to do novel strategies around housing. the hal -- talent, while there will be competition for talent, it will also be a huge magnet for talent. talented individuals, talented institutions, for talented companies. i hope that virginia is the winner of this competition. and we can figure out the problems if we work together. >> mr. stewart. mr. stewart: that's all he's got to offer. nothing. absolutely nothing. know, as chairman of the
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board of supervisors i worked together with the rest of my board. you know how you build economic growth? you give businesses and residents know, as chairman of board adequate public infrastructure. that means roads and schools. you streamline regulations on our businesses. cut down in half, the board has, the amount of time it takes to open our expand a business in my community. $1 billion worth of new roads. that's what i have been able to do. we have kept taxes lower today than they were when adjusted for inflation 12 years ago. that's what made prince william county number one in job growth. number three in the united states of america. and that's what we have to do in the federal level. the federal tax cut passed without his vote because he votes against everything that president trump does, has resulted in a 22-year record for blue collar wages going up. a 52-year low in unemployment. he's opposed to it. >> mr. 30 second. senate cane: tax bill, what's med opportunity. we needed to do it for the first time. but deep permanent tax cuts for corporations and temporary
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expiring tax cuts for people, wrong priority. added trillions to the debt. we could have done so much better. we could have done so much better. corey, you talk about your economic track record, look, when i was governor, we got hilton to move to virginia. rth rum grumman, c.s.c., volkswagen, all of those who chose northern virginia, they chose fairfax, not a single -- not a single one of the businesses chose prince william because you were emboiling your county in controversy. >> you guys are going to get penalized. 30 seconds with the next answer if you could. mark. mark: mr. stewart, what is the proper role of government in boosting economic prospects in southwest virginia? where coal is dying, due to cheaper alternative energy sources? what do you see as the future for that region? mr. stewart: senator kaine went down to southwest virginia when he was running for governor in
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2005 and he told those folks that he was going to support them. he was going to support the coal industry. and then he betrayed them. and he voted for all those regulations under the obama administration that shut down coal. and all those jobs. all those jobs. and you go down there and you look at those folks and you see boarded up shops, people who are struggling. and they want to work, they want to work hard. coal is an important part of our nation's energy resource. we have to use it. and also provides jobs for us as well. senator kaine: you need to get out more. when i was governor we permitted and built the cleanest cold plant in the united states. i was proud to work on that. we opened data senators in lebanon in russell county, big data centers to move high-tech obs into the county. we're working on important issues now in southwest virginia. we're working on expanding career -- mr. stewart: why did you vote
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against coal? senate cane: why do you think the united mine workers support me, not you. they know i know what i'm doing when it comes to coal. mr. stewart: you are shutting it down. >> gentlemen, i'll take the privilege here and have the final question. return to where we began which is tomorrow's hearing. be realistic, a lot of us are watching this and worried that it's going to turn into a national train wreck. what can senators do on each side of the aisle tomorrow to avoid this national train wreck? is the biggest mistake the filibuster? senator kaine? senator kaine: i think senators need to approach all the witnesses with respect. and i say all the witnesses. i don't think this is just a matter for judge kavanaugh and dr. ford. if we're going to be respectful of the seriousness of the allegations, i think you have to hear from ms. ramirez and ms. swetnick, you need to subpoena mark judge to come. and there may be other witnesses
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as well. the most respectful thing to do s treat people with respect. remember, our children are watching. if an allegation of serious sexual assault gets swept under the rug, it will make it harder for people who are suffering sexual assault to come out and seek help. let's hear from everybody. do the f.b.i. investigation that should be done, do it in a respectful manner. that's what a deliberative body like the senate should do. >> mr. stewart. mr. stewart: if the senate treated each other and other members the way that they are treating judge kavanaugh, they would all be in jail for getting counseling. 268 charges of harassment, sexual harassment against you and other members of the united states senate and congress. and you won't even disclose it. don't the american people have a right to know? where there's $17 million in hush money that has gone to hush
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up these women who had legitimate claims. ago. weren't 36 years they were just last year. don't we have a right to know who among you is on that list? who among you has been charged and accused ago. they were of sexual had a harassment? isn't it a right, protection of the young women in particular who are working up in capitol hill that we have a right to know who is a sexual predator, who is a sexual harasser. we have a situation where the sexual harassers are accusing judge kavanaugh of sexual harassment. senator kaine: many of the facts are on the table because i pushed the senate ethics committee to release -- house ethics committee what it released. it was true that the senate was slower than the house on this. so we pushed for this information to come out. and much information is out. scores and scores of information. but there is more information, i want it all out. i want it all out.
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but for you to stand here after you have called dr. ford a bunch of crap, after you have suggested her claim of sexual assault as well, like pulling somebody's -- >> each get 30 seconds. please answer my filibuster question. should it come back. would we be in this position if the filibuster were in place? senator kaine, 30 seconds. mr. stewart, 30 seconds. senator kaine: i think the 60 vote threshold is the right rule. >> you are going to support bringing it back senate cane: 50 vote threshold is right for nominations. >> do you not believe we should have the supreme court higher threshold? senator kaine: a president who gets elected does have a mandate to fill positions. with the 60 vote threshold, chuck, as you know, what you have a agencies like the medicaid, medicare agentcy. the biggest budget in the nation went without a confirmed administrator for 6 1/2 years. 50 for legislation, 60 for legislation. 50 votes for nomination. mr. stewart: the only thing the
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president has gotten done is the president's tax cut that has resulted in a 52-year low in unemployment. and he even opposed that. he opposes every single thing the president proposes. everything. even inure opposition, even if it hurt virginia. even if it hurts our military. even if it hurts our military personnel. even if it hurts the average men and women and businesses who need and depend upon those tax cuts. >> thank you, sir. that is it for our questions. well done to both of you. chairman stewart, one-minute closing statement. mr. stewart: i want to thank you for attending this. i want to thank my wife. it's been a long, long road. and i want to let you know something. i know it's controversial. i know i stirred things up. i have gotten members of the board of supervisors here. they know it's true. but we have been able to come together in a way that the united states senate has never been able to do so under senator kaine because he's an automatic
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no to everything that the president proposes. on january 19, when the esident proposed a $355 ship navy, senator cain voted no. -- senator kaine voted no. he votes no against the president out of spite. he's still hurting from 2016. we have no room for that. he's been voting no against the president. no against you. no against virginia. and that is why on november 6 i'm asking you to vote no to senator kaine and vote yes to virginia's future. thank you very much. >> senator kaine, your final. senator kaine: virginians in my 24 years of being elected life and getting around the state are positive and welcoming and inclusive and innovative people. and my theme of virginia that works for all is not just an expression what i tried to do but an expression of what i hear from virginians. let's pull together and do good
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things for our commonwealth and country. that's how i have led all along. that's how i have led in the senate. getting bill after bill passed. corey may think it's nothing to build a 355 ship navy or battle opioid. he thinks it's nothing to expand career and technical education or medical research, but virginia thinks it's something. when corey stewart says take virginia back, virginians don't want to go back. there is nothing in the rear-view mirror that looks better to virginia than what we can see in the windshield going forward. if you will support me, continue to support me, i will continue to work for that virginia that works for all. together with you, to build accomplishments and help people's lives in every corner of this commonwealth. thank you. >> thank you, senator. thank you, mr. stewart. thank to you northern virginia, the school at george mason, northern virginia tech council, my colleagues at nbc 4 for making tonight's debate possible, and once again to senator kaine, corey stewart for both agreeing to participation and having a spirited and lively
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discussion. thanks also to our great panel. stay with news 4 and nbc for continuing coverage of decision 2018. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2018] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] >> in 10 minutes we'll take you back to the house floor live. members are considering two of three republican tax policy bills. live coverage at noon eastern right here on c-span. over on c-span3, the senate judiciary committee is meeting today to review allegations of sexual assault in support nominee brett calf naufment you can watch it live on c-span3, online at, and on the c-span radio app. us to that takes the third most populated state capital in the u.s. the indy 500. joining us as part of our state capital store is the state attorney general, curtis hill.


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