tv Campaign 2022 Pennsylvania Republican U.S. Senate Debate CSPAN April 27, 2022 12:28am-2:05am EDT
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financially and make debates like this one possible. i want to thank all of our members across the state. if you don't yet support our journalism, you can learn more about spotlight pa by visiting spotlightpa.org. i want to thank dickinson college and all of our host partners. i will hand it back to our moderator, scott, to get things going. >> thank you. the republican candidates for the u.s. senate that are participating in the debate tonight. you may applied after each of the candidates is introduced but i will have a rule about applause after this. i want to introduce you to kathy barnette. [applause] jeff bartos. [applause]
george bochetto. [applause] sean dale. [applause] and carla sands. [applause] let me go over the rules first before i introduced -- introduce our panelists. please hold your applause or cheering or reacting during the debate. at the end you can let off your steam and cheer on anyone you want. we are up against the clock and trying to get to as many issues as we can. we wants to get through this as quickly as we can so no applause during the debate itself. candidates are allowed a 32nd closing statement. most of the debate is divided into separate topics, each with a question posed to a specific
candidate followed by each of the candidates answering the same question. the moderator and questioners are allowed to ask follow-up questions. questioners need to be called on before speaking. we will say which candidates answer in which order. candidates who are directly criticized during open discussion are allowed 30 seconds to respond only after the moderator calls on them. let me introduce our panelists tonight, are journalists that will be asking the questions of our candidates. going my right to left -- left to right, sometimes you do this red television audience. -- this for a television audience. joining us is jesus, jonathan of
the inquirer, and paul of trib live. we thank all of them for being here. we will start with opening statements. and it it's have 60 seconds. -- candidates have 60 seconds. we have a timer here. we will hold up a yellow sign when you have 10 seconds to go and a red sign when it is time to stop. let's start with opening statements. kathy barnette, we will start with you. ms. barnette: thank you. hello, pennsylvania. i love this state. i love our country, and i am completely unapologetic about it. i believe america is the greatest nation that has ever existed but i believe it is the greatest because she was founded upon the greatest political document ever written. right now our country is in
danger because we have elected officials moving through our constitution like a whale moves through a net. our country does not exist apart from the u.s. constitution. this seat we are running for is so crucial. who would have thought that the greatest nation would come down to just one seat but that is where we find ourselves right now. one seat separates democrats from doing exactly what they have said they wanted to do and that is to fundamentally change this nation. that is why i am running. i look forward to explaining to you why i am the better candidate. >> thank you. he is ready to go. jeff barto's --jeff bartos, 60 seconds. mr. bartos: to dave mccormick and dr. oz, sorry you could not be here tonight.
i was born in reading, pennsylvania. married to cheryl for 45 years. my children are raised in the southeastern part of the state and we are all pennsylvanians. i am running for the senate to save main street pennsylvania. in the pandemic won all of us started to suffer from the lockdowns and all of the fear, i started a nonprofit to help save small businesses. we helped over a thousand women and men keep the lights on, saving thousands of jobs for working families. you cannot be main street if you cannot find may street -- main street. you can trust me to fight for you and your families, which i always have and always will. >> thank you. george bochetto. 60 seconds. mr. bochetto: welcome,
everybody, and i am proud to think -- proud to be here. i was left on the doorstep of an orphanage where i grew up for the first six years of my life. when you grow up in an orphanage, you have to learn some lessons early. you learn how to recognize reality. the reality is today that we face very, very systemic, difficult, existential threats in our country. and we need to have country -- people go to washington who represent us who understand these threats, understand these difficulties and have a sense of how to address them and solve them. i have had the training as a practicing lawyer in pennsylvania for 45 years of problem-solving.
problem-solving is the most important obstacle we face today and i am going to address some problems tonight and i am also going to address how i would solve them. i want to introduce sean gale now. mr. gale: i am running for united states senate. while the other candidates promise a world where this will never happen, i look at why this happens. have weak republicans that do not champion conservative values. pat toomey has been a complete disgrace. pat toomey's ultimate betrayal was when he voted to convict donald trump. it is interesting because the pennsylvanian republican party had voted on whether to sanction pat toomey and they voted no. if nothing else is clear from
today, i am not another pat toomey. we cannot afford another backstabbing rino in washington. >> thank you. and carla sands. ms. sands: thank you. i am a pro-life, pro-first amendment, pro-second amendment constitutional american, businesswomen, christian, and mom. my pennsylvanian ancestors fought in the american revolution and the civil war. this is our time to fight for the heart and soul of our country. i was president trump's ambassador to greenland. i worked to counter russia and china with nato. i also worked to increase our trade was denmark over 40%. i would be honored to earn your support. i will always be a reliable
conservative vote in the senate and i will never bow to the swamp. >> thank you. now we get to the questions. jeff bartos, you're getting the first question. >> even as the pandemic economic recovery continues, rising inflation is taking a bigger bite of americans' paychecks. what policies would you support this bennett -- support in the senate the combat this? mr. bartos: it is a task on working families. as i worked throughout the pandemic to help small businesses, the working families that worked in those businesses were suffering. they survived the pandemic, many of them. the gut punch of the bided administration policies is disrespectful. it is unbelievably hard on families. as we stand here tonight, their
families are making decisions about whether to fill up their tanks, put food on the table, or whether they can go on a vacation, even go to work. inflation is wrecking our economy and we have to remember that these were policies put in place by the biden administration. the inflation we are suffering right now is a direct result of paying people to stay home and shutting us all down, taking delicate supply lines and ripping them apart. getting the government out of the way, that is how we solve this problem. >> mr. bochetto, how you would bring inflation under control? mr. bochetto: inflation is one of the problems we now face. one of the approaches to inflation is very straightforward. we have to stop printing money. we have to stop giving away money to the trillions of
dollars which put more money into the system which lessens the value of our dollars. we have to reach energy independence. when we are energy independent, we control the price. when we are not energy independent, as we are now, when we are reliant on opec and foreign nations, they set the price. when they set the price higher, we are stuck paying it. the approach to inflation is very straightforward and crystal-clear. it is something that i think we need to talk more about in tonight's debate. >> sean gale, same question for you. mr. gale: we need to stop the radical spending. it is under -- not under control. we talk about the gas pump and i remind people when you are paying at the gas pump, it is not just inflation causing that cost.
that was brought to us by a republican governor, house and senate. they had the opportunity to do a lot of things and all they gave us was the highest gas tax in the nation. inflation is only half of the problem. we are playing a lot that we shouldn't have to pay as well. >> we have to get inflation under control. it is hurting our families and seniors on a fixed income. it is costing pennsylvanian families more than $5,000 this year because of the out of control, bided administration spending. the multi trillion dollar bills stuffed with green new deal policies are at the heart of it. the multi trillion dollars of it has caused the cost of everything to go up. this is biden's war on
pennsylvanian energy. i will work to increase our energy output, and that is going to help the cost of energy and cost of everything to go down. fertilizer has skyrocketed in price largely because of his war on energy. i will be your energy senator. i will bring the price at the pump down. i am going to bring that price down. i will look after our families and our seniors and stop the out-of-control spending in washington on day one. >> lets me follow-up. when you say the war on energy, what specifically do you mean? ms. sands: on day one, he canceled the keystone xl pipeline, part of the american energy platform. several months into his administration, he said he was not going to sanction the nord stream 2 pipeline going from russia to germany.
my team and i locked that pipeline. the only place that pipeline was not completed was in danish waters. it is part of putin's war on europe and part of his war is using energy as a weapon. >> kathy barnette, how would you bring inflation down? ms. barnette: for the audience, imagine inflation, and example of me getting water and spilling it on the floor. i would need something to absorb that water to clean that up. likewise with inflation, inflation is everywhere and it is always a monetary phenomenon. it is a direct result of the federal reserve renting too much money, paying people to stay-at-home, but how can you absorb that inflation? you absorb it by having goods
and products. democrats, let's talk about the things they have done to perpetuate inflation. with energy, that is a commodity that has the ability to absorb inflation, but instead of allowing it, they cut off our nose and now we do not have a commodity in demand to absorb that. it is a war on energy and i will be in office to make sure that that war on energy will be fixed. >> most economists and even some democratic economists will agree that the money that was allocated by congress did add to inflation. they said there were other factors as well, meaning that a lot of people saw a lot of things that weren't there because of the pandemic, the supply chain issues we had. do you blame it squarely on the
biden administration or do you accept there were other factors involved? ms. barnette: democrats could change all of this tomorrow but in order to do so, they would have to admit that everything they have done and said has been a complete failure. when we talk about the supply chain, 20% of our shipping containers are still floating outside of our ports. instead of pete buttigieg not being on maternity leave and figuring out how to get goods off of the boat and into shelves, those goods would have absorbed that inflation. instead of doing what was needed, he took maternity leave. >> stop. let's go to our next question now. >> many in congress attempted to throw out in sylvania's 2020 electoral votes, disregarding --
in pennsylvania's 2020 electoral votes, disregarding the voice of thousands. mr. bochetto: in the 2020 vote in pennsylvania, joe biden received at the polling places approximately 1,005,000 votes. donald trump received about 2,008,000 votes. he was up about one million votes. why didn't donald trump win? act 77, that unconstitutional statute which allows mail in voting. joe biden got 1,000,995 males and votes. donald trump got an hundred 95 million -- donald trump lost
that election because of mail-in voting which was harvested by the democrats where we don't know who signed them, when they signed them, why they signed them. >> harvesting -- you said donald trump lost that election? mr. bochetto: donald trump received less votes than joe biden in that election. however the reason that joe biden got so many votes is because they were able to exploit act 77 which is an unconstitutional statute. it has been held unconstitutional by the commonwealth court. words not for those mail and votes that -- were it not for those mail in votes, they
harvested those votes, they falsified those votes. >> time. >> let me ask the question. >> we have rules that we follow and my rule is that i will complete an answer. >> you agreed to the rules. it is time. >> you pledge to serve five pennsylvania's 2024 electoral votes as affirmed by the pennsylvania department of state? >> what we need to do, the case of act 77 is now for the pennsylvania supreme court awaiting decision. if the pennsylvania supreme court overturns the commonwealth ruling on how that statute was unconstitutional, it will be an affront to every voter in pennsylvania. i will be the first one to help take that case to the united
states supreme court. i have been involved in and out of courts all over pennsylvania. that is the most important thing we can do in this election. mr. gale: i would not have voted to certify the election of 2020 because act 77 gave us those mail-in voting's. -- which requires a ballot excuse. they clearly violated that constitution and the blood is on the hands of every single republicans senator in harrisburg who voted for it. it is not acceptable that there are two candidates running in the selection that voted for that unconstitutional act 77. one of those is doug mash rhino. if you lend -- if he wins that ticket in the fall, we will lose
the senate as well because the biggest issue is election integrity and the voters are disenfranchised. act 77 is the reason why we have joe biden in the white house. >> carla sands, same question for you, whether you voted to certify pennsylvania's. ms. sands: in 2020i was working as the ambassador to denmark, greenland, and the islands. we were in a pandemic and i was serving as an ambassador. there are rules. as a matter of fact, we know that the election of 2020 was stolen. senator rand paul said was the election of 2020 stolen? it was stolen illegally by zuckerberg money which controlled how the election was
held, almost half $1 billion into a nonprofit that controlled how the election was held, where they were counted. rand paul said they did an analysis and if it were not for that money, donald trump would be president today. we also have a new movie about the meals that harvested ballots and put them in drop boxes to harvest -- to influence the election. >> let's go back to that being real. there have been 60 rulings that said fraud has not been an issue. >> what is the issue then? >> the issue is whether state legislators have passed statutes allowing for males in balloting that directly violate the pennsylvania constitution. >> it is carla sands' turn. >> here's my answer.
if france, a large country in europe can have an election date in person with paper ballots affirming they are a citizen and they can count those votes in one day and they can tell the citizens of france the outcome of that election, how the heck can we not do it in the greatest democracy in the world? >> i want to follow up on one item. you mentioned mailing in your vote when you are in denmark. you claimed during that time that your vote was not counted. it was counted. do you regret making that came -- claim? ms. sands: i do not. i was working in denmark, mailed in my ballots, checked online, did my vote count? it said online that there was no record of my vote. i called and asked if they could
check my vote and if it counted. to this day i do not have satisfaction. >> kathy barnette, a question to you of if you were the senator if you would have taken back the vote. ms. barnette: i don't recall anyone asking that question. -- made an entire industry out of the 2016 on challenging elections. i don't remember anyone specifically in the media ever challenging any democrat who ran around talking about gas tax, trump is not my president.
republican candidates, every time i walk into a room where the moderator leans more left, they begin to ask us that question, what would you have done? yet i am watching the debate last night and no one asked any of them and yet in 2016 we saw what they did. there was fraud in the 2020 election. there were irregularities. i was a candidate in 2020. i know what i experienced. it was real and wrong. >> time. ms. barnette: i would make sure my one vote counts. >> you lost that election in 2020 by roughly 10 percentage points. there has never been documented a case of election fraud by that. they found no fraud in the
presidential election. do you concede that you lost your election fair and square? ms. barnette: i never said that i won, i said it was wrong. in the constitution, it says it is clear of who has the right to make laws pertaining to our election and it is the general assembly. at we saw on election night, i won 60% of the vote but yet with the mail in ballots, i saw that getting erased. not winning once. my talons has always been -- my challenge has always been as an american citizen -- >> time. jeff bartos, same question to you. would you vote as senator to not certify pennsylvania's votes? mr. bartos: after this debate,
my dad will have sent me many text messages asking if i would ever get the chance to talk. i will say this as follows. is there anything that we blame joe biden or the government for today? tomorrow the president could sign with the stroke of a pen executive orders to open up federal lands for drilling. he could allow lng to be transported on trains until we allow pipelines in. we could waive all sorts of regulations around permits so we can get pipelines in the ground. we could have a meaningful impact inflation at the pump through federal action if biden signed those executive orders. on the voting, yes i would vote to certify the 2020 election. >> onto the next question. >> [indiscernible]
>> this question goes to mr. gail. >> and fresh attacks were to go beyond ukraine and attack a nato ally, would you support sending american troops to defend a nato ally? >> i think we have to be very careful. that's very dangerous to engage with foreign nations, especially when ukraine is not in nato. let's be honest that while we have the issues we have been ukraine is because we have very weak president. the way he left afghanistan is what caused all this. it sent a signal to the world that america is weak. and when america is weak, the world suffers. that starts with domestic policy . the best foreign policy is the strong domestic policy. we hear a lot of talk about energy to cream we have energy right under our feet term pennsylvania should be tapping into that. not only to supply our own nation by other nations as well with plenty to do that. and also ukraine is a breadbasket of europe.
a big food supplier for europe. we have a number one industry here in pennsylvania is still agriculture. we could step up in that regard too. that is what we need to do to fight this work globally is to do what we need to do domestically. >> same question to you about position on sending american troops to defend nato ally. >> well, we have article five it is an ironclad agreement that we will defend our nato allies. but the fact is, i believe in peace through strength. we have a weak, corrupt and compromised president in the white house. it has made the pathway open for russia to invade ukraine. they would never have done this under a strong u.s. president. they would not have dared to do this under president trump. the withdrawal from afghanistan, him not sanctioning nord stream2 , him telling russia, if it's a minor incursion, we are not what -- not going to do anything
about, open that door. we are in a dangerous unprecedented time and we need a senator who is ready, on day one to fight and defend our country but there's no one else in this race on either side of the aisle ready on day one to defend our country against russia and china , are foreign adversaries that understands how to do that. i was awarded the department of defense's highest civilian honor for my work. i am ready on day i will fight one. for america in the senate and make sure we are secure. >> time. kathy barnett, same question to you. >> yes, in regards ukraine the in regards -- listen, it's not just the one thing, one thing and then done, right? senators on our side of the aisle, we need to be more deliberate, more sober and disciplined. right now our foreign affairs , policy looks like a wild game of whack a mole. whatever pops up we are patting it out. we need to be more disciplined. right now, what we are showing our enemies is that america is not to be feared.
what we are showing our allies if we did have to go to war , could not solely go on our own food right now our allies are beginning to pivot and begin to look into new people to create relationships with. we are looking at our allies we are teaching them right now by how we exit out of afghanistan what is taking place in ukraine, the america is a treacherous print to have. if we want to begin to show strength, it is not just send weapons. send boots on the ground. let's begin to give taiwan what they need let's begin to show , the world we have adults in the room were going to take seriously not only our defense but our allies defense as well. >> all right, let us go on now, question about nato, we are under agreement, send american troops in. >> perhaps the most solemn duty of a u.s. senator would be to vote to send the sons and daughters of main street pennsylvania to fight in a foreign land. there is no more somber responsibility of united states
senator than to vote for that. we are duty bound by article five, by our nato treaty. we are duty-bound i would vote to support sending troops to defend any of our nato allies , the word of the united states is critical. we are the leader of the free world. we are the indispensable ally. and so that is a difficult vote, but if you cannot take difficult votes, you should not run for office. i want to stress though on the eve of this invasion, i was the only candidate to put out a comprehensive plan on the steps that the biden administration should be taking. i asked some of the advisors of the other candidates why people were silent, some of the people who are not here tonight. i was told by people who know them they did not want to take the chance it was too risky to , put out specific policies. if you cannot lead, don't bother showing up. i'm always going to lead, always going to be honest with you on these difficult issues. >> mr. cano, what about nato and
ukraine? yes -- >>, yes, of course, i would vote in favor of sending troops over to defend our nato allies. we are bound to do so to not do so is to shrink, surrender, and avoid our responsibilities i am not for that. i want to get back to this voter fraud issue. fraud is not the issue. here is the issue. joe biden received 1,995,000 meals in votes -- male in votes in 2020 in pennsylvania. the commonwealth court said, those male in votes were unconstitutional. there is no disputing those two sets of facts. if that is the case and you look at the facts that mr. biden won the so-called election by 80000 overall votes how in the world , can you then say joe biden
constitutionally won the votes? the common wealth has already stated. >> let me ask you a follow-up question on that. are you suggesting, yes, commonwealth court, did take that ruling that act 77 as written was unconstitutional. are you suggesting it should be retroactive? >> i'm not suggesting it should be retroactive or that's not the question the question is not whether i would undo what's been done. but the question should be and is, what are we going to do in the future? are we going to continue to run this constitutional statute to go into effect? the pennsylvania supreme court right now has on done the -- undone the commonwealth court's ruling of unconstitutionality and said act 77 shall remain in place. most of you have already received in the mail, solicitation for mail in boats.
>> ok, let us move on to our next question. paula read, i am using your middle name now, paula is going to answer this question of carla sands. >> good evening, what is your position unexpended background checks for gun purchases to include sale such as those at gun shows? >> that's an important question. i am a second amendment absolutist. i say give no quarter. the left keeps taking an inch here and an inch there. it is time for conservatives, for republicans to take our country back until the left they can compromise for the next three or four decades because we are coming, we are taking our country back. i also just wanted to share one of my opponents on this debate floor, she has attacked most of us in this debate. i just want to share, set the
record straight. she lost her election in 2020 by 20 points to a week, democrat, a weak democrat. and as a matter fact john federman is a strong democrat. i will beat john federman in the fall i will hold this seat in republican hands i will go in put forward america first policy in washington representing every , one of you viewers. >> time. time. since she is directing to you kathy barnett 30 seconds to , respond. >> i think election integrity is very important. i don't think there's any other question that is more important in our country today than it making sure it might one vote counts. as your signature i will make , sure that is the case. in regards to electability, my very presence when i walk into the room, i neutralize more than
half of democrat's talking points. that is power in the hands of the republican party if we understand the power. because what exactly are democrats going to run on? inflation? i don't think so. we know what they are going to run on. >> i would like to follow-up, ms. sands, if i could, relative to your answer about being a second amendment absolutist? do you support any type of federal ban, whether on assault weapons or high-capacity magazines, drum magazines? do you support any kind of restriction on any of those things? >> i am a proud gun owner. i don't own guns for hunting, although i do like to hunt. one of our opponents, dr. oz, has publicly called, we have the videos of my team is going to push it out tonight on social media, he has publicly called for the cdc to regulate guns. absolutely he does not share our values and our conservative principles. he has flip-flopped on every issue pretty served in the
turkish military even though he was born in ohio. he served in the turkish military decades ago and he is a turkish citizen. >> kathy barnett, same question about guns. >> the question is whether or not you would support expanded background checks for sales of guns at gun shows and following up relative to a potential ban of either assault weapons or high-capacity magazines for. >> allow me to ask the audience, the people watching at home by questions of what is a prerequisite to be a criminal? pause for a moment, that you do not obey the law. so when we continue to come out with law after law after law, what are we really writing those laws for except for law-abiding citizens. right now, we have over 3000 laws -- 300,000 laws on the books regulating the second amendment. are we trying to say that 301
moore law is going to do the trick. i don't think so. i am a constitutional republican. i believe the second amendment guarantees my individual and fundamental right to keep and bear arms as a law-abiding citizen. i do not believe that should be infringed upon. if the left is so unnerved by gun violence and stop allowing our legal system to become a revolving door for criminals. we need to lock them up and that is a surefire way of getting guns off the streets for. >> jeff morris, same question to you. >> i grew up in berks county a group in a house or my dad made his own shotgun shells, he made his own 45 caliber bullets he reloaded. my 21st birthday present was a glock at a young age i learned 21. to take apart, clean, put back together properly is improperly store a firearm for my dad -- properly use and properly store a firearm for my dad raised me right that's the county way. you never have to worry about compromising on any of our
second amendment rights. i will never let you down, because i would never let my own father down. kathy brings up a good point. only in a twisted mind, i am from philadelphia now, i love philadelphia unapologetically sorry for all of you penguins fans out there. i love philadelphia. it breaks my heart everyday to see what is happening in the great city of philadelphia. our men and women in blue are feeling they cannot do their jobs. they have a district attorney who in his own mind that he's there to make sure people do not spend time in jail jail. he will not prosecute crimes , he is judging by how many people get released. then that same party the same radical left says we should restrict the gun rights to defend themselves. it's absolute madness. >> time. george, when you talk about adding work on regulation of background checks, banning assault rifles and everything, what you're doing is penalizing law-abiding citizens for the
conduct of criminals. law-abiding citizens, whether they have assault weapons, bazookas, tanks, what have you , obey the law. they are not out to hurt other people. they do not commit crimes with guns. criminals commit crimes. if they didn't have guns, they would use baseball bats. if they didn't have baseball bats, they would use knives. you punish the criminals who misuse guns not law-abiding , citizens. in philadelphia alone, and spreading to the rest of pennsylvania violent crime is up , 350%. yet at the same time the release , of criminals who have been arrested using a crime -- using a gun in the commission of a crime, releasing them on bail is up 850%. you are putting criminals with guns out on the streets. and that is where your gun problem is. not with background checks.
>> the original question was about background checks to pay. >> i am a constitutional conservative. in the constitution is it the second amendment, which says the right to bear arms one of the shall not be infringed,. the only thing cleaner it might be the pennsylvania constitution, which said shall not be questioned. i'm going to uphold the constitution and uphold your gun rights in this country. there's a record high crime in philadelphia. it is out of control. the murder rate is through the roof. carjackings and what we are , seeing is a liberal government radical leftist government , releasing criminals back onto releasing criminals back onto the street. , they want to defund the police. this is not the time to be stripping law-abiding citizens of the right to bear arms and i'm going to defend that as a senator in pennsylvania. >> next question goes to kathy barnett to start.
>> what should the u.s. do about the more than 10 million immigrants who are already in the country illegally? what specific changes do you support in immigration policy? >> i have someone on my team who has spent more than 20 years with the uscis. let me just say that 10 million or 11 million number the people throughout this, that is a farce, that is not true. in fact we have no idea how many , people are in our country illegally. what we do know is last year 1.7 , million people came into our country illegally. they called them unlawfully present people. this year we are on track for 4 million unlawfully present people coming into our country. we do not know who they are. we don't know where they are going, we don't know how they're going to take care of themselves . when we ask a very legitimate question about securing our border, getting back in first asylum country people should not
be able to shop, go across three different countries get to america then asked for asylum, we are called racist, not meet, i am black. [laughter] but for the rest of us, we are called racist. we are being marginalized in all of that. there is nothing racist about wanting to know who is coming into our country. >> misses barnett, what specific policies would you put in place or vote for to reform the immigration system? >> thank you for the clarification. uscis, there are 1.5 million people who are trying to get access or trying to get citizenship and they are on backlog. it takes about two years just to get a green card. five years to get citizenship. one of the things as your senator i would do is provide , the oversight not advocating my responsibility as a senator -- abdicating my responsibility as a senator to provide oversight over that uscis with
, their status into make them become responsible for what it is they have not done. >> jeff or joseph, question for you except starting with what's up as a senator would you do? >> the sons and daughters of main street pennsylvania are dying by the hundreds every year because we have a fence and low, -- with fentanyl pouring over our southern border. poisoning americans all over the united states, including right here in pennsylvania, 100,000 lost last year because of this poison that is coming from china to the southern border. we need to secure the border. we need to secure its southern border pruning immigration policy that makes sense. sanctuary cities are a huge issue here in pennsylvania. i traveled all over the state for five years. mamet and dave, they parachuted in here, they couldn't be bothered to show up and answer these questions and talk about the vision. i spent five years across pennsylvania all 67 counties ,, these issues matter to families, we need safe and secure communities it starts with a secure border,
pennsylvanians will not stand for sanctuary cities. in the united states senate. i will vote to defund a sanctuary cities including my beloved philadelphia which would break my heart. we have to hold her cities accountable to the rule of law. >> time. >> pennsylvania deserves safe and secure communities. >> the border security issues, that is the low hanging fruit. that is the easy problem to solve. we have to shore up our borders. we have to start stopping just the outright inflow of whomever wants to come here. but that is not immigration reform. here is one of the big problems in immigration that we have a right now, right now our agricultural industry particularly in pennsylvania can , only get visas on unskilled and low skilled workers on a seasonal basis. they need workers on a year-round basis. and therefore, those that cannot get a year-round visa low
-- who are low skilled or unskilled come into this country illegally for the work. they are getting here and they are working. what we need to do for immigration reform is adapt our immigration policies to the realities of the situation. we need year-round low skilled visas so we can keep track of these people. we can register them, they can pay taxes and we know who they are and where they are coming from. that is the kind of immigration reform we need. [voices overlapping] shaun gail? >> immigration starts at the border. you cannot have a nation without order. and i told these republicans out the board have a big sign and it says biden's border crisis they are saying, here's get down your fixes immediately. what did they do and they had control? they fought donald trump every step of the way.
patrick toomey voted against the border wall. if i was of the board have a big sign to them i would crisis. -- toomey's border crisis. that is why hold responsible. not the democrats who wanted open borders, their correct -- i blame republicans who promise border security and when we give them the majority to do it in the present that was more than willing to do it, they failed to get it done. as your next u.s. senator i'm , going to hold those republicans accountable to do what they promised us because they blew it when they had the chance. i'm going to bring a wall down to the southern border. >> carla sands, to you. >> someone mentioned mehmet oz a moment ago i just want to say oz did not bother to show up today because i think he is a minnow . he is maggot in name only -- ma ga in name only. after that debate last night, a minnow. about the border we have to secure our border and build the wall. president trump listen to the border patrol and they said they needed a wall.
he worked to complete that wall. we know, record levels of illegal immigrants flooding over our border. we have a record amounts of fentanyl. the number one killer of our youth, it comes from china in two mexico, and the drug cartels bring it over the border. it is an unholy alliance between the chinese communist party and the drug cartels. we also know that president trump had policies like remain in mexico and you could not come from a third country but we know those policies work when you put them back in place. we cannot have 20% of our population illegal by the end of this administration. >> time. >> that is what is predicted. >> we have gone through the first question with all five of you. now we are going to do something we call rapid response, a lightning round, where we ask for quick responses to these questions.
30 seconds, if you will, you ask a question, whoever you are asking, who is responding has 30 seconds. notice i said you ask the questions. jeff or joseph, we start with you. you have to ask one of your opponents tonight, a question. the opponent has 30 seconds to respond. >> can i ask dave or mamet? someone tweeted back we are living in modern times. i've a bunch of questions, starting with why did you think you could move here and run for a seat in the state you haven't lived in, have not represented. you don't know us, did not care about us until he decided there is an opportunity. you see an opportunity and you take it. i have been running around the state for five years. i've lived there my whole life. love pennsylvania with all of my heart. with all my fiber and it being. i want to go down to washington d.c. and fight for pennsylvania. where have you been for the last ten years?
>> george, a question for one of your opponents? >> i will just throw out a question to all and i don't regard them as opponents by the way, i regard them as candidates for the u.s. senate. which i think is a noble calling and something every one of the people out here deserve respect for. but, my question to the entire group is, could you imagine having john fetterman as our united states senator? >> no. >> no. >> the about socialist woke , liberal person who's going to continue the nonsense policies that are afflicting our country right now? so let's think about that. and let's think about who is going to address that most effectively. >> shaun gail, a question for your opponent? >> i don't have a question for a think, i am going to use this opportunity to talk about something we need to talk about. that is the week republicans we
have -- the weak republicans we have. starting with our senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. have a question for him, you have been there for 36 years, 79 years old just got elected six more years. if you have not got it done it yet you're not going to get it done now. that is what we need to change. we did change the leadership in washington. we have the same regurgitated republicans we see all the time. you name them, they are there. mitt romney, lindsey graham, susan collins, pat toomey. that is the problem we have. >> carla sense, a question for anyone on the panel? >> i would like to talk to the voters instead. for those of you watching on television or sitting on your kitchen table, many of you are undecided or you are wavering. i am asking who do you trust? , how do you trust to go to washington to protect our farmers and the green new deal overreach by this radical administration. would you trust to bring down the price at the pump? i will be your trusted conservative vote.
i will not be a squish, they will not be able to control me. >> is that your closing statement? >> i don't think that's a closing statement. >> all right. kathy barnett, question? >> yes, i'm going to take my cue from you and ask dave mccormick right now, if he watches commercials or you hear him talk, he tells us all the time, he is going to be tough on china. here is my question. how in the world are you going to be tough on china when china is the region -- reason why you are so rich? are you really going to bite the hand that feeds you? i don't think so. i do not believe you can be in bed with china financially and not be in bed china ideologically. you have not spent the past 20 years pushing america first. you are pushing communist ideology. >> time. i have another rapid response questioner lightning round question. i would like a yes/no from each
each of you. switching up the order, because shaun gail has kind of changed our strategy here. one of the questions i wanted to ask was whether you would support mitch mcconnell as senate gop leader if he -- if you were elected to the senate. >> that is a resounding no. the man is a complete failure. >> he has already answered. yes or no? >> i cannot support mitch mcconnell. we need new blood. he was very divisive in the way in which he handled the second senate impeachment trial. but we must make sure we get a true leader in there. that is going to be very, very important. carla sands, mitch mcconnell for >>carla sands, mitch mcconnell for leader? >> that is the wrong question. the question is am i going to take out chuck schumer as the
leader of the senate? the answer is yes because we are , going to have a red tsunami this year. we are going to elect america first senators and take back the senate. and as a matter of fact, i want to not to think of this as a throwaway votes, don't vote with your heart. vote with your head. who is going to fight for you, who understands foreign policy, trade policies of defense policy, will never back down for you, will bring the price of the pump down, will stop the out of control inflation? carla sands. >> i do want to ask the question, yes or no, -- >> asked and answered. this was discussed in the green room, asked and answered. >> in other words, you won't answer the question? >> even if you depose senator schumer, you have to elect a new leader. [voices overlapping] >> that pathway prides right through pennsylvanians of the keystone state. >> let's move onto the next
question. >> how about we ask the question. >> and do so. >> kathy barnett,? >> i would be unknow on chuck schumer. these are extremely dangerous times. extremely dangerous times. these are very serious times we are living in. the fate of our country is going to come down to this decision. and i know every election we always say this is the most important election, no this is. this is the most important election. i am traveling over 1500 miles a week going all across the commonwealth. and people are unnerved, people feel squeezed right now we all know something has fundamentally gone wrong. [inaudible] >> yes or no on mcconnell questioner. >> i said no. >> jeff bartos precooked so what to do with these young people formed a twitter handle dave mccormick podium. somebody's very enterprising,
and go claim that. i like to as i put them on my question when you're in the c of the world's largest hedge fund did you impose a vaccine mandate question at bismarck was elect asking. respectively i think we get down there, or organization sometime in november i going to work real hard to have tim scott run for leader for the answer that question depends who's running for with my powers of persuasion sometimes are good and sometimes are less could employ to try really hard to get tim scott to run for leader. >> brings a lot of clarity wind break on this debate said no one has the guts to actually go after the republican leadership. mitch mcconnell has been a failure with mentor leader to majority the right day when i get to watch and can lead the effort out mitch mcconnell's a leader our party has to go. the next question is for you sean gale walmart lightning round question now and while time will get to some others. yes or no.
do you want donald trump to be the republican nominee for president 2024? >> think donald trump sells the best chance of winning in 2024 for the reason i say that is because of you look at the electoral college of swing states like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, was her blue states unit somebody is not a generic republican to win those states. that's why donald trump was able to change electoral college is also reason i can win this election because i appeal to independence. and that is what we need somebody is going to go after both parties because that's what independents are, they're not moderates, don't like either party and guess what you do i. >> carla sands would you like to see president trump run in 2024? >> there is no president donald j trump is the head of the republican party he still carries a lot of weight and power birds of course if he is our nominee i will support him. i just want to also mention, we had two candidates that are not here tonight. one made his fortune in china, he is a china first. he actually could not have made
that money without vowing to the chinese communist party. the other is a turkish citizen who certainly turkish military he is turkey first not america first pre-says he is america first but he is turkey first clearly and every other word is trump when he speaks. >> really good option think they would have some options there affiliation with dave mccormick his corporation had been a huge proponent environmental social governance, that is equivalent of what china uses as social credits. if you are, if you are woken up you get to do it they allow you to do. that is a very scary question. jeff bartos president trump in
2024 question workers have had the distinct privilege to travel around the commonwealth and visit six to seven counties multiple times. main streets across as beautiful, beautiful commonwealth donald trump won in 2016 because for the first time in generations millions of pennsylvanians i felt like someone was listening to them and fighting for them after being ignored for generations. i think the changes we saw julie trump administration, peace in the middle east, a china understood it cannot keep bullying us. russia that understood, we saw the best economy in our lifetime or to president trump runs again i be proud to support them. >> 30 seconds. >> i firmly believe the entire obligation as candidates to talk about ourselves and to highlight our strengths and what we propose to do and how we propose to help people. i don't necessary believe in getting up here and attacking someone else or pointing out someone else's imperfections.
donald trump won in 2016 because he talked about himself. he talked about what he was going to do. he talked about how he was going to implement america first policies and that is what he did but that's the kind of candidates we need that's the kind of candidate i am. >> one more rapid response question. this comes from a reader of the philadelphia inquirer, jonathan you have any left? >> apparently so. this questions comes from a reader of the inquirers were elect which you can sign up at inquirer.com backslash pa 2022. the reader asks, negative campaign ads seem to poison boaters attitudes towards all politicians. some of those politicians eventually become elected leaders do you think something needs to be done to tempered this negativity? and if so what. to carla sands to begin with
please. >> there has been so much negativity in this race. i have watched most of my opponents have been attacking each other since day one, fighting over and over pate i am fighting for our voters to make their lives better, to increase opportunity for our youth. to bring new energy opportunity, to bring companies here and make opportunity. but we know that kathy has been fighting and attacking me and others over and over part she lost her last election by 20 points and eight red wave year playing the same cards she is playing now. i will beat john federman in the fall. >> mrs. kathy barnette she mentioned you in particular pray. >> i would love for you to tell me what i am playing for this is your second time saying it, what card am i playing? [inaudible] >> i am not attacking her she has been attacking me since we
have been on the stage but i am not attacking i am focused on what is important. and that is our nation is in trouble. it is now or never i am your best chance at ever getting anyone in office he actually listens to you and fights for you. that is what is important. [applause] hold applause. >> thank you. >> 30 seconds but we received a four-minute church i have a coalition of over 50 pastors and our commonwealth. she claimed because she is a woman, a minority and has a great personal story she will win in november paid by guess what in the last general election that she had she lost by 20 points in eight red wave year. the facts don't line up. as far as i think she is in the river in egypt is called the denial. she needs to take a hard look in the mirror and understand she lost fair and square print they did not steal it by 20 points per.
>> we could go back and forth all night. rex negativity and candidates. >> political campaigns yes perfect example. [inaudible] >> negative, right. listen, start my time back over weight we were joking. okay seriously now $48 million has been spent on this campaign and just the first three months. you only have to spend that kind of money when you're trying to make good between mehmet oz and david mccormick that's what they've spent. i am and tied for first place and how did that happen? because of the people they are spending a tremendous amount of money i'm spending very little. i have spent over 1500 miles talking to the people of pennsylvania by the people of pennsylvania have made me tied
for first place of thank you. >> are right jeff bartos 30 seconds per. >> caplinger defend the field of inquiry this is for you we get it delivered everyday we are still project subscribers will be very happy and said that. look $60 million i think is the number now they have been fighting with each other on the airwaves polluting our airwaves because negative ads left work. they are fighting with each other i am fighting for you. my entire campaign from day one has been focused on main street issues, economic opportunities, safety and security, parental choice, educational toys empowering parents and students to make the best choices for themselves but we are the answer to negative campaigning. we have to reject it as a people, but for me that's the first step to stopping negative campaigning. >> think it's interesting you would raise the reader question about civility in politics after i just raise the subject myself. there is no question but that
this kind of bickering back and forth and personal attacks is counterproductive. it is also beneath the level of the office we are running for the united states senate to represent this country in the noblest and proudest way we can. i believe we talk about our strengths. we talk about solutions. we do not attack each other petty personal basis, who did what what was played or not played we need to act like adults. >> sean gale two. i'm not for negative campaign of offer telling a truth. i think it's very disingenuous for kathy barnette to pretend she's not running campaign based on identity politics is a first republic and black woman in the senate if you asked her to go beyond that, you shouldn't have too. typically that is the truth about what is happening here. i am glad carla sands of the
backbone of sediment status was exactly were seeing and i'll prove it this way seven candace running for this racers nine running for governor, is only one candidate that had to put a picture on a sign and that is kathy barnette. >> kathy barnette since they are addressing you you have 30 seconds. >> they are losing and so they want any think they looking for a viral moment. what you say to all of that except for again i've been over 1500 miles i'm looking in the face of the people, people feel unnerved, people feel squeezed, people want real answers, they want a leader who will have a backbone made or something a little sturdier than cargo to understand what the issues are. that is what people want. no more of the foolishness, no more bickering. >> so sell a book and be a fox
news contributor that's what's going on. >> let's go on tour questions next. we have jonathan of the inquirer has a question for jeff bartos. >> yes 60 seconds but honestly hope republicans will be in charge of the senate starting next year, senator rick scott have the campaign arm released his plan he believes the gop should follow, if y'all do take control of the chamber, one aspect of that will require all americans to pay income taxes that included millions who currently make too little to pay income taxes although they do pay payroll taxes, sales taxes other taxes, do you agree with requiring all americans to pay federal income taxes? >> are you asking me if i agree senator scott are you asked me by ruthie proposals just want to make sure i understand the question for. >> the proposal but requiring all americans to pay some level of federal income taxes. >> traveled on the state as we
all do, pennsylvania families are suffering. gas prices are out of control. inflation has run amok. people are not working, businesses cannot find people to work. our schools have been shut too long, their learning gaps. drug overdoses are running rampant. pennsylvanians are hurting. the last thing we, as a party should be doing is talking about raising taxes on anybody. we are the party of opportunity. i am running to save main street pennsylvania because i know and love main street pennsylvania. as united states senator i'll be in washington fighting for pennsylvania's working families, to make pennsylvania all she can be. absolutely engaging helping her agricultural industry and helping a young people make the decision to stay here. wish not have to take a plane to visit our children and grandchildren, pennsylvania should be most fastest growing dynamic state in the nation. >> let me follow up on that question per we should not be
raising taxes on anyone so specifically you would discredit senator scott is proposing even the highest earners should not face renewed taxes but. >> we should not be raising taxes on anybody. tomorrow we could have a moratorium on all federal spending no more it raises we could tomorrow put in place a federal rule note new regulations impact families are put in place so we are out of the inflationary mass for their steps the government can take tomorrow, congress can take it via legislation to stop this absolute task on working families that are crushing pennsylvania this is what you send us to washington to do. this is why people hate politics because we don't get stuff done. >> i think senator scott has got it wrong. we should not seek to impose a
tax on everybody regardless of their situation or their circumstance. what we should be working toward is working everyone a taxpayer. that means giving them our educational opportunities until they get their comment till they provide the structure an opportunity for the american dream we need to extend helping hands to people. we do not that silly but is not talking about low income earners. >> does exactly what the question was. >> i misunderstood i thought you were talking about her. >> are already taxes is called inflation. >> think everybody should have skin in the game and should pay some taxes. even if it's a minimal amount per batch really to do that you have an administrative nightmare on your hands the cost actually implemented that will be through the roof.
so, today we have to simplify the tax code it's ridiculous how much time i dread april 15 it should not be that wish be very simple should be down the back of a postcard. >> senator scott is a great conservative. i admire him. however i pledged i would never raise taxes i will honor that pledge. also, i want to talk to the moms and grandmas out there. i am a mom too. i want you to know that i will protect your daughters make sure biological males, males will not compete against your daughters. i will make sure there is curriculum transparency at the federal level and i will protect your kids so they are not indoctrinated with critical race theory so that they learn to hate each other and hate their great country. i will also make sure that the teachers are not able to confuse your children sexually or sexualize your minor children.
i'll make sure the federal level i protect your kids and i'll do everything i can but the money follow the child and are not prisoners of their zip code that the opportunity to absolutely perform to their greatest destiny. >> time, time could be answer the question rather than move on to something else? >> i did in fact answer your question you asked me if i supported raising taxes asked and answered. >> along with a couple other issues. >> listen, i grew up on a pig farm below the bottom rung of the economic ladder i clawed my way from under iraq in order to create a different narrative for myself and for my children along with my husband. hell let me tell you is not some in writing the eight stimulus check none of that. what helped me was the fact we
were living than in a country that created opportunities. so is a job is what people need but how do we do that? jobs of follow businesses who are willing to invest, who are willing to locate and produce here in america. how do we create an economy or businesses are willing to do that. right now there's a very hostile environment. if you want to help someone with me i grew up in the home with no insulation no running water and outhouse in the back with a well on the side. how do you do that you create an economy you're not giving people tax credits not tax credits you're not giving them but you're creating an environment that allows them to pull themselves out of that. >> let's move on. you have the next word for mr. george bochetto pick rex all of you described yourself as pro-life.
what stage in a pregnancy do you support banning abortion? wait 15 weeks, six weeks or conception? >> conception. let me at least relate my personal story to you. as i mention i was left on the doorstep of an orphanage. i was an unwanted child. back in the day when i was born they did not have a roe versus wade. they had orphanages and institutional systems to take care of unwanted babies. today, abortions are all too readily available. i may living personification of why there should not be abortion. if there was abortion i would not be here. the sanctity of life is absolute. there are no exceptions. i would make one exception where the mother's life is directly and absolutely at risk at childbirth. and only if the child did not
have any other issues. but the sanctity of life is absolutely paramount. i cannot express it more strongly to you than to relate my own story. >> life begins at conception without any exceptions. any pro-life issue put me in this race because in 2015, the montgomery county republican party, the republicans endorse a board member of planned parenthood to run for county commissioner in montgomery county. along with my brother joey got together so this is unacceptable as a campaign manager us he ran on a pro life platform and he won that seat became the youngest commissioner in the history and the first ever elected without support of either major party. that is the kind of backbone we need. right now we have a six -- three conservative majority on the bench of the u.s. supreme court. and the issue of roe v wade is going to be coming up i pray every day they overturned that and that we have montgomery county commissioner joe gale as
governor so we can make pennsylvania pro-life state wicket and the atrocity of abortion. >> you said no exceptions. >> i am pro-life life begins at conception no exceptions. all right carla sands? >> it's an important question. i am pro-life at the beginning of life and the end of life. we can see what to do in the united states, this is not the party of john f. kennedy. the democrat party and produce manners and aoc and they are attempting to implement a federally paid for abortions up to and including birth in some places after birth. i will vote always with such war in pennsylvania we are they are at war with our firms are attempting to implement green new deal regulations on our farmers paid regular id methane, the water, they have tax and
went implemented take the family farm. i will work to protect our farmers and her energy sector they are at war their energy sector. i will work to grow our energy sector i called for operation warp speed to harvest, put the pipes in and to build pipe to philadelphia so we can sell it to our friends and allies in europe. they don't have to buy russian gas. kathy barnette abortion? >> think is so much i remember when mehmet oz talked about equating a beating heart in the womb as an acorn with just electrical current moving through it. and i was aghast because it might life value. i am the byproduct of a rape. my mother was 11 years old when i was conceived. my father was 21 and i am so grateful to god there were adults in the room who, i remember my grandmother marking
her name with an annex and that was her signature. my grandmother knew enough to know what was growing in my mother's womb was a lie from very grateful to god there were adults in the room who saw value in me. at as a result of me standing here, i have children who are amazing in exactly the kind of people we all want being released into our society one day. george and i talked about before i'm so very grateful to god i am pro-life. >> , after follow-up? any exceptions? >> no. except for my own self no exception. for the life of a mother not the mental acuity of a mother but the absolute life of the mother life in danger, yes. but for myself no. jeff bartos? >> scripture teaches we are made in god's image. and as conservatively
passionately fight for the unborn. we passionately fight for life because this is what it is all about. as a nation we are where we are today we step in philadelphia over people shooting up and passing out on the sidewalk when we allow veterans of sleep under bridges last 50 years we've gotten so far away from the simple notion of looking out for each other, for caring for each other. the recently gotten here's the government stepped in since the 1960s and certainly roe v wade put up barrier between fellow citizens. this issue is so divisive because the government is in the way. the grassroots we look after each other, we take care of each other. we must protect life that is who we are as a society. i believe life begins at conception ridge of exceptions in the river circumstance where
the pregnancy is a result of rape or incest. >> thank you. we only have a few minutes left. gets another rapid response round up we can kind of an unusual question. what you think about this this one does go to sean gale. they may living democrat you admire and why. >> that might be the toughest question you had tonight. what got at the democrat party is embarrassing. frankly with that now the republican party is embarrassing. we send them to washington about like democrats to view asked me a question of voting republican i'd have to scratch my head the only exception may be donald trump who fought what we stand for progress note democrat you can think of? >> no they do not impress me very much. >> 30 seconds do you have a living democrat you admire?
>> as the u.s. ambassador is a speech of john f. kennedy to inspire him he is no longer living but his words still ring true, ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country. i think he, and retrospect, was a great statesman and today he would be a republican. so he is my favorite democrat for this evening's answer. >> that's why we put living in there. kathy barnette. >> thank you so much i admired joe manchin. as your senator i will look for the joe manchin's in the room. we have all this polarization on the side as the rest of us in the middle it's just not working for us. i won't go there with a bone to pick i will go there to actually get things done so our lives can be better. that is the point of it all is
to get people in office who will work for you. not go and find a video and tell them they can beat their chest for a video and then fundraiser i will work for you for. >> we are running short on time so mr. jeff bartos for. >> i thought so clever i got joe manchin and kathy got its i'm going to come up with another new though i will add joe manchin's bed also had senator joe lieberman a deep man of faith. a great advocate for the us relationship someone who fought very, very hard over the years to keep nuclear weapon of the hands of iran, to have a robust foreign policy in the middle east. and a man i know who lives his faith. so i admire senator lieberman. but thank god we have joe manchin in the united states senate because the by demonstration disastrous policies would be ten times worse if joe manchin weren't there. drat they there's no question joe manchin is the one i would pick. i may not agree with his philosophy or his outlook, but i
do believe the man is principal deferred he wants to represent his constituents in the best way he can. he made some awfully difficult choices at great personal risk particularly in regard to the crazy $5 trillion spending program. the other democrat of course, i don't know if they can be admired certainly have learned a lot is joe biden. is there anything that demonstrates our need for republican in the administration of change of leadership the joe biden? >> recorded a thirty second closing statement were going to backwards this time. carla sands let me start with you 30 seconds for. >> thank you. i am particularly talking to you at home. i am carla sands i'm running for the senate. and i will never back down on behalf of working for the people of pennsylvania. there's been a lot of rhetoric, there's been a lot of ugly talk.
and even hate talk in this campaign. but i am a first among pro second mmo, pro-life constitutional conservative businesswoman, christian and mom. i will never be a squish. i will always vote to protect pennsylvania put you first thank you. >> sean gale. >> i can't tell you i'm going to go down to single-handedly build the border while myself and i cannot make that pledge. there are other conservatives ted cruz is a constitutional conservative with a pristine voting record and all the issues out probably but like ted cruz. but what ted cruz is in and i am as a disruptor to the system from going there not only to vote for democrats accountable but those bad republicans who let us down time and again. if you want a conservative with a backbone there's only one choice in the senate race and that is sean gale, thank you very much. george bochetto, 30 seconds regrets i believe rather than disrupting things that we tried to do or should try to do is find solutions.
i have been finding solutions for difficult problems my entire professional career. i have fought the woke mob when they tried to tear down the columbus statue spray fought the das when they tried to release cop killers from jail part i defended donald trump when they tried to impeach him a second time. i fight for what i believe in, i find solutions i'm not going to washington to disrupt, i'm going to washington to represent you in advance our common interest on to make this commonwealth a better place to live. >> 30 seconds for. >> i am a kid from pennsylvania i know this commonwealth and loved pennsylvania with every fiber of my being. i've had the privilege to travel for five years in my campaign is about saving main street pennsylvania because i know and love mainstream pennsylvania. you can trust me too go to washington and fight for you and your family. i always have and i always will, thank you so much for having us tonight. i would be honored to have your vote on may 17. thank you.
>> kathy barnette for. >> when someone mentions a county i see faces now. i see stories, i am looking in your eyes, i've been a million-dollar homes and i've been in some very humble homes. i love pennsylvania. as i said earlier, i am your best chance at ever getting anyone in office who will actually work for you, fight for you, listen to you. listen, we have the better value than the republican party. we have the best story to tell. we have just got to stop kicking people who suck at telling it. thank you so much for your time. >> i like to think the candidates for their participation in the organizing sponsor tonight's event, spotlight pa periods in partnership spotlight pa the philadelphia inquirer, pen live, wi tf, pc at and of course dickinson college. candidates, thank you very much.