superville. she talks about dr. biden's involvement in joe biden's lyrical career, her role as a teacher and insight into her personality. >> last year, she took a trip, i don't remember where exactly she went, but on the flight home back to washington, d.c., she apparently left her seat, disappear for a while and then out came a woman dressed like a flight attendant with a dark-haired wig and she walked through the cabin handing out ice cream bars. and when she was finished, she revealed her self to be jill biden and apparently no one on the plane recognized it was her. i'm not sure how the step didn't realize she had been missing from her seat for the amount of time it took her to walk up and down the aisle and distribute these ice cream bars but that's one example of the kind of practical joke she likes to play. >> darlene superville sunday night on q&a and you can listen

on our free c-span now app. journal" continues. host: a conversation with adam why let, he serves as the president of accuracy in media. remind viewers with what you do at accuracy in media and how your group is funded. guest: we put frowns on the faces of bad people. we are a charitable organization, we use hidden camera investigation journalism and citizen activism to expose bad politicians, fraud and abuse during like many center-right organizations, we are funded by generous -- a generous group of individual donors and philanthropic organizations. host: the bad actors, mostly from liberal groups, liberal politicians, liberal media?

guest: we don't know their ideology. we don't check their voter registration card. what we have been doing with our hidden camera investigation journalism with critical race theory has been explosive, i don't know the ideological beliefs of anyone we talked to. we don't assign beliefs to them. we allow them to speak their minds and allow the american people to hear what they have to say. i have made an entire career of going after people of all political parties, republicans and democratic who are doing bad things. i have probably spent more of my life going after bad republicans than anything else. host: one to get to critical race theory investigation. the big media story of the week, and of the year so far, that leaked draft opinion from the supreme court. i want to get your thoughts on what you are seeing in the media, any concerns about bias in this is how it is being

reported or talked about? host: we see from so many in the media, this and buzzfeed and invests in bc -- msnbc. they team up to make this seem like it is an apocalyptic situation, and the world is coming to an end for people. you see gavin newsom talking about the threat to abortion rights. as if this will in any way, shape or form affect abortion in california. that is what i would expect the media to report honestly on these things, regardless if you are pro-life or pro-choice, you deserve to get an accurate depiction of events happening. what -- when politicians are allowed to say things that are single for chewing to their base, the media should call them out for it. the detail works with them hand in hand. host: one of your taglines is, you are concerned about cultural activists in the news media. what makes a person a cultural

activist? guest: a journalist would interview both sides. a cultural activist pushes one point of view. a journalist, you can tell the difference between their talking points and those of politicians. cultural activists are one in the same. we saw a tremendous rise in that under the trump administration, where many in the media realize you can get more clicks for your stories by, instead of reporting accurately, simply telling your audience want -- what they wanted to hear. many journalists are happy to ride the trump bump, where they wrote trump fan stories about how horrible trump was. regardless of your ideology, that is bad. host: the state of u.s. media. how would you describe the state of u.s. media right now? guest: in many ways, it reminds me of the era of yellow journalism, sensationalist, click bait headlines before

there was click bait. rather than news outlets that report on the facts, allowing you to educate yourself, i feel like the more you read, the less you actually know. with this fractured media landscape, a lot of attention goes to some of the players who are less damaging. some of the most damaging players are those of buzzfeed and now this, even teen vogue. outlets that build a massive following with stuff unrelated to the news. once they built that following up, they pivot and start to ill up far left propaganda. that is what was feed built their brand on, it is morally outrageous. host: adam guillette is our guest. talk about the state of u.s. media. phone lines are open to call in. democratic, (202) 748-8000 -- democrats, (202) 748-8000.

republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. how did you conduct the critical race theory investigation? guest: we went to school districts where -- critical race theory was banned. we asked, how have these critical race theory bands affected you? they tell us, no. they change the wording and keep teaching what they want to teach. many of them write to us that they don't let politicians tell them what they want to do. i do not want to live in a world in which politicians micromanage educators. i do not think politicians are experts at education. the notion that administrative officials in public schools are unaccountable to the law, do not care about the law, when they bragged to us about how they change the name and use deceptive tactics to trick parents, their words, not mine.

when i see things like that, it makes me terrified about the currency of public education in america. that is why investigative journalism is important. host: a big part, the use of hidden cameras. i want to show viewers a minute of hidden camera footage that you found. this from your investigation in the state of iowa. [video clip] >> 8:02. it does not stop us from talking about [indiscernible] it does not stop us from talking about privilege and how it shows up in classroom, when teachers need to be reflective. in all of our building surrounding that. we've still got a lot more to do. >> so you can still discuss systemic racism? can we teach them systemic racism as inherent capitalism?

>> absolutely. it is based in fact. we can research that. host: that hidden camera investigation, you can find it on accuracy in media's website. adam guillette, you were talking about concern about deceptive tactics by teachers and administrators. when is it ok to use the tactic of hidden cameras when you are a journalist? guest: i think investigative journalism is perhaps the most honest form of journalism. as a result, the most essential form of journalism. anybody who has been interviewed by a reporter, always afterwards, feels like, that wasn't what i said. or, maybe they got that quote wrong. or, i was talking about this, but they took this with what wasn't consistent with what i said. everybody feels that way when they are interviewed by a reporter. what we do is take people's own words, captured them on video and put them in a longform,

proper context, so you can see what people have to say. i love that police officers where body cameras. i think it is better for them, i think it is better for the public. i would love it if politicians were body cameras. the next best thing we can do is use hidden camera investigation using -- with public officials. host: brian is in maryland, the line for republicans. good morning. caller: thanks for having me. i guess my question about the investigative journalism is, how do you feel about the reports coming out about the senators taxing one another about their -- texting one another about their january 6 outcome, and what they were saying publicly? i know you referred to the crt stuff, but if -- investigative

journalism has the truth told during the coronavirus, when they knew it was airborne and coming in january. they didn't release that information until february or march. isn't that stuff [indiscernible] host: we might have lost brian. go ahead, adam. guest: he makes a good point. the covid-19 pandemic, perhaps the biggest story of our lifetime, where were the investigative journalists at the washington post and new york times customer can imagine having the resources of jeff bezos and rather than empowering investigative journalism and putting resources into uncovering the truth behind what caused the pandemic, instead, the washington post put out silly fanfiction, telling people what they wanted to hear, slamming trump, not ever going after the real causes of covid-19.

and what people suggested leaked out of a lab, instead of investigating that, the mainstream

caller: it seems like everything you are saying is negative toward democratic stations like msnbc. nothing about fox, nothing about sean hannity or any of those people. guest: first of all, people for yet that fox is viewing audience in primetime is so massive they actually have more democratic viewers than cnn does. people think boxes only preaching to the wire. they are the biggest channel in

all of cable. it's kind of a bipartisan audience unlike any other news channel stop to that point, there are plenty of people going after fox every day. we don't want to be the 20th to the already. how many people are going after buzzfeed 14 vote? -- or team vote? you expect sean hannity to tell you conservative talking points. there is an ongoing series called red and roses that literally pushes marxism to young girls. it's not hyperbole. you can look it up. that is far more dangerous than sean hannity talking about conservative ideas to an audience that largely is conservatives but also has democrats. host: gene out of mississippi, republican, good morning. caller: good morning, i would like to thank you. >> you can watch all of today's washington journal