biography notes he's been pretrade as a political failure and the warren court's principal billion -- villain, and let none of these ring true. he uses 700 pages to examine felix frankfurter's life. >> it's available now on the c-span now free mobile app, or wherever you get your podcasts. >> this year's democratic nominee for arizona governor katie hobbs met with voters at two campaign events in the phoenix area, to take some questions and talk about various issues including education and animal welfare. >> good morning.

it's so nice outside, i thought we would be doing this outside. i'd like to first welcome our special guest who is going to be here and i also want to acknowledge some of our council members who are here. [applause] this is a special morning, we have all expanded our horizons and are out there in the community. i'd like to introduce a

candidate who's going to be a very strong governor for our state. i'd like to introduce our secretary of state and hopefully future governor, katie hobbs. [applause] ms. hobbs: thank you, good morning, everyone, and thank you for that introduction. i'm excited to kick off our election tour here. as you heard, on the secretary of state and also the democratic nominee for governor. [applause] we have an election that ins in 17 days, but voting is going on right now, it's a critical election. in 2020, we saw the foundations of our democracy face the most

serious challenges of our time. their accusations of fraud in our election, questions about faith in the leaders in charge of them. there were threats against election workers, there were threats against me and my family. i had armed protesters outside of my house. as secretary of state, we conducted the safest and most secure election in our state history, with record-breaking turnout. i stood for democracy when i refused to give into those insurrectionists who surrounded my home, and i'm still doing that today in this campaign for governor. not just because i'm running against kari lake -- also because i truly believe that even then in this moment of criticism and anger, when we prove that government can help solve problems, we prove that

democracy works. i can't believe we are still litigating the 2020 election when we have so many resting issues to focus on, like skyrocketing housing prices, inflation, fixing our education system and dealing with our state's water crisis. we need leaders who will look to the future and not dwell on the past, because our problems are urgent, and many of them are decades in the making. i haven't shied away from our estates challenges because i've lived some of those same challenges myself. i'm a born and raised arizona and from a hard-working middle-class family that knows the dollar -- of a dollar and the dignity of hard work. we didn't always have enough to get by and sometimes relied on support from her church community and government programs like food stamps. husband and i also struggled with raising our kids with financial ups and downs. you know the impact of rising costs on families trying to put food on the table. i've taken second jobs to help pay the mortgage.

and i will never forget that struggle. i learned the value of service from my faith and my parents, and i've been serving arizonans my whole life. i put myself through college with work-study and scholarships and i medially went to work as a social worker, helping arizonans who were struggling to get by. my first job out of college was working with youth experiencing homelessness in phoenix, and i helped run one of the largest mystic violence shelters in the country, where helped provide needed services to thousands of women in our community who are fleeing from domestic violence. i love making a difference in the lives of people that i was working with, but i wanted to help fix the problems that were causing people to end up in these situations in the first place. and i didn't see our elected leaders doing a lot about it. and so i ran for office myself, and i won.

and then i got to work. in the legislature, i worked with republicans and democrats to help expand health care to over 500,000 arizonans. i worked across the aisle to find new ways to tackling our states growing opioid epidemic, and i worked with republican governor to clear the states backlog of untested rape kits and put sexual offenders in jail. and then when i got to the secretary of state's office, we had more tough challenges to tackled. i promise that i would bring trust and accountability to the office, and we did that. we modernized the office, we fixed broken systems, battled misinformation. we are still battling this information, and we navigated the pandemic for the voters of arizona soto that no one had to choose between their freedom to vote and their health and safety. all of these led to historically secure elections in 2020. when people like my opponent kari lake try to overturn the

will of the voters, we stood firm and we fall back on these challenges. that is exactly the kind of leadership i'm going to bring to the governor's office. real solutions, not finger-pointing or conspiracy theories, but bringing people together to solve our most urgent problems. i know that together we have what it takes to turn our talents into opportunities and make errors on the best place in the country to live, work, and raise a family. to start, we have released a bold plan to lower costs and make arizona more affordable. we will make government more accountable. we will stop kicking the can down the road and deal with our state's water crisis. we will make sure that every single student in our state, no matter where they live, gets a high quality public education. [applause] we are going to make sure we are predicting access to reproductive health care for women and their families,

including safe and legal abortions, and we will continue to stand up for our freedom to vote. in every single one of our plans, we will make sure we are uplifting latino communities and communities that have been marginalized and have not had access to opportunities. that is getting the job done. this race for governor is not about democrats or republicans. it's a choice between sanity or chaos. it's not just the crazy, off-the-wall things that kari lake says, not that she continues to spew dangerous conspiracy theories, but it is what she would actually do as governor. she is 100% against women's reproductive rights, she supports arizona's pre-row ban that forces jail time for doctors that was passed before we were even a state before women had the right to vote.

i was three years old when roe v. wade was decided, and now in 2022 it is unbelievable that my 20-year-old daughter has less rights than i did 50 years ago. but the reality is, if kari lake were to win this election, this government mandated band risks the lives of women. she continues to call for de-certifying the 2020 election, which is a concept she invented. she continues to spew conspiracy theories about the last election, and refusing to say she will accept the results of this election unless the wins, unless -- unless she wins. if these things were bad enough, she wants to put government cameras and all of our classrooms, which would not solve any real problems that we are facing an education, but would potentially open up our kids to spying from big tech and

big brother. she thinks everyday people should be able to own rocket launchers. think about that for a minute. these are weapons of war, designed to fight tanks and heavy artillery. i hate to think of a rocket long -- rocket launcher in the hands of a dangerous criminal or someone who's going to commit the next mass shooting. she has called to dismantle our nation's top law enforcement agency which would put the safety and security of every arizonan at risk. she wants to secede from the union and usher in another civil war, and she has promised that on day one of her administration, she will declare an invasion and our southern border, which will do nothing to secure the border, but will bring untold levels of chaos into the state of arizona. kari lake is dangerous. she is too extreme and she is out of touch with every day arizonans. [applause] the question now is, do we want a governor whose entire platform

boils down to being a sore loser, or a governor who will get the job done for arizonans? the last election was pretty important, but it is nothing compared to what the -- this might be the most important election in our state's history, and we will win this, but it's going to be tight. it is going to be tight, so we need everyone to help out and to turn out and vote in this election. i'm not afraid of a tough fight. i'm battle tested, i have never lost an election and i don't intend to start now because there is way too much on the line. so thank you all so much for being here. make sure that you're talking to all your friends and neighbors and family and that they know what is arts take in this election -- what is at stake in the selection and so we turn out every voter so we can win. i look forward to voting

alongside of you in 18 days. are you next? do you want me to introduce you? >> thank you so much for coming out. this is a critical election. there is a lot at stake. if you look at positions of many candidates on the others out of the all, republicans, dictate, it's dangerous for our economy, dangerous for our state, and definitely dangerous for our democracy. i want to sit right next to -- i have seen what she can do. she would work across the aisle, she would bring solutions. she was able to work across the aisle with republican governor for medicaid expansion here in the state of arizona. [applause] i also had an opportunity to

work with her the last couple of years when our elections and our democracy were under attack. we were all getting desperate, they wanted us not to certify the election, but all five supervisors, four republicans, one democrat, stood up and said no, we are going to stand with the will of the voters of the state of arizona. our elections are safe and fair and we are going to certify. right next to the board of supervisors was secretary of state katie hobbs. she stood with us, and this is why we need katie hobbs as our next governor. we need someone who's going to represent the entire state of arizona. kari lake continues to push conspiracy, spout false statements. she's already putting out

conspiracies on the 2022 election. even postelection, they are going to throw as much garbage and false statements of conspiracies toward our election, but at the end of the day, it's up to the voters of the state of arizona, and the voters will vote for katie hobbs as our next governor. let's people out of their homes, let's talk to our neighbors and talk to our coworkers, our family and friends. let's get everyone out to vote. every vote matters and at the end of the day we will come right back here and we will celebrate a great victory when we elect katie hobbs as the next governor of the state of arizona. [applause] >> the latino vote is critical. the latino vote is going to

determine who is elected. we need to get tino's out to vote, that is our mission for the next 17 days. join us and let's bring home a victory for katie hobbs. [applause] >> thank you so much. ms. hobbs: thank you so much. thank you for being here. thank you so much. >> we will do everything to support you. ms. hobbs: well, we are tight. thank you so much.

thank you. thank you. hi. thank you so much. did you get a good one? ok, thank you. [crowd murmurs]

>> you guys, we need a little energy here. [chanting "hobbs! hobbs!] >> let's do it, 17 more days. let's get the latinos out to vote. let's fight for her. let's get out the vote. [chanting katie! katie!]

>> let's do it. ms. hobbs: thank you, everybody, for coming. we appreciate your support and all your love. [crowd murmurs]

>> we need you. arizona needs you. ms. hobbs: thank you so much. all right. thank you.

[crowd murmurs]

[crowd murmurs] >> a couple of quick questions, why is it so important to resonate with latino youth? >> when it comes to uplifting our latino communities, that we are implement and policies that work for everyone in our state. >> this is a do over chance, what have you learned from the latino community? >> you can't separate latino

culture from arizona, it is who we are as a state. this the things i've learned from latino women i had a chance to work with, they have the most barriers and challenges and they were willing to take the risk for their families, to protect the family. when i thought about that, it just really was something i realized had impacted my work throughout my time in government, to help people that needed the most. >> why do you think you are the better candidate? >> making sure that in every single thing we do in government that we are uplifting communities of color, communities that have been marginalized and shut out of

opportunities, that we are providing that, by including that in our administration at every single level so we have a government that reflects the diversity of our state. that is something i'm absolutely committed to. my opponent clearly is not. >> we've seen a trend nationally of latinos sort of moving in the direction of republicans. why is that? why are democrats starting to lose latinos? ms. hobbs: i don't think it is happening is much as you are seeing it in florida and texas. >> on the border, how are you

going to handle that? ms. hobbs: we have to work with the federal government to make sure they are focused on solutions that are right for arizona. we have decades of inaction from washington. we need the biden administration to step out on real border security, to tackled the crisis were seen coming from across the border, and we need immigration reform. ending some of the chaos we've seen at the border and the impact it has on our communities. it's going to provide real relief from the economic issues were facing, with inflation, supply chain issues, we need immigration reform. as governor i will fight for that. i think it is important to be focused on what meaningful

things we can implement that are not political stunts. shipping containers on the border is a stunt. the republicans spent $12 million on that. i think i will inherit a court challenge on that. i think it is a waste of money on a political stunt that doesn't do anything that actually solves the problem. >> the cdc vaccine -- would you allow the covid vaccine to go on the schedule for children to attend school? the cdc is sort of moving toward adding the covid vaccine to the recommendation for school vaccines, it's up to the states to actually decide what is on

that list for their state. ms. hobbs: that is not something i have contemplated. >> broadly, what would be your principles around how you make decisions around that? ms. hobbs: follow the cdc guidelines for the health of arizonans. thank you. [crowd murmurs]

>> with the political atmosphere the way it is now, we didn't really want to do it. but i'm so proud of you guys, you all have such great attitudes about coming here today. is john here? john said, this is a really big deal. katie hobbs is going to be in our garage? so here we are. [applause] i'd like to know how many of you are from the ranchette. i want to have a lunch pretty soon, in november. we are going to have cake and coffee, and there's water, soda, tea out here. so don't get thirsty, don't get

hot. the weather has been pretty nice, actually. i guess we don't have three or >> i had made up some flyers of kt's opponent. we have to win this election. i appreciate you welcoming and when you go home, you have to talk to as many people as you can about voting. that is pretty much it for me.

[applause] >> thank you so much. i was going to say that about your birthday. thank you for having us here at your home. i am really grateful for all of the support and the people we got to talk to. we are not taking a single vote for granted in this date -- race. this race is as much about the 2020 election as a taste the future and that is because we keep wanting to litigate 2020 like my opponent. in 2020 our democracy based the biggest test of our lifetime. there were questions about the

legitimacy of our elections. there were armed protectors outside my house, but i had a job to do. as secretary of state, we make sure we oversaw the most secure election in our states history. this campaign for governor, i running against kari lake, the trump-endorsed election denying gop nominee. i truly believe that when we prove government can help solve problems, we prove that democracy works great i cannot believe we are still litigating the 2020 election when we have so many pressing issues to focus on, like prices, inflection --

inflation to name a few. we need leaders who are going to look to the future, not while on the past. leaders who are going to get the job done for arizonans. i am a born and raised arizonan that knows the value of a dollar . my parents made huge sacrifices for me and my siblings. we did not always have enough to get by, sometimes relying on government programs like stamps. my husband and i raised our kids in phoenix and we had financial ups and downs. i know what it it is like to get a second job to pay the bills. i learned the value of service for my parents and my state. starting as a kid who volunteered at my church, i put

myself through college with work-study study and scholarship and went to work as a social worker. my first job out of college was working with youth that are experiencing homelessness and i hope to run one of the largest domestic abuse shelters in the country, where i got to help provide support and services for thousands of women and their children who were fleeing from domestic abuse. i loved making a difference in the lives of the people i was working with, but i wanted to help fix the problems. i did not see our elected leaders doing anything about it. so i ran for office myself and won and got to work. in the legislature, i worked with republicans and democrats to expand health care to more than 500,000 arizonans.

i worked with the republican governor to end the backlog of untested rape kids -- kits in the state. i promised i would bring trust and accountability to the office of secretary of state and i did that. we modernized the office, fixed broken systems, battled misinformation and i helped navigate the pandemic for the voters so that nobody had to choose between their health and safety. when people like my opponent kari lake tried to challenge the results and overturn the will of the voters, we fall back and we protected the voters of arizona. that is exactly the leadership i will bring to the governor's office, real solutions.

not finger-pointing or conspiracy theories, but bringing people together to solve our most urgent problems. i note together we have what it takes to turn our challenges into opportunities and make arizona the best place in the country to live. my campaign has released a plan to lower costs to make arizona more affordable. we are going to make government more accountable. we are going to stop kicking the can down the road and deal with our states water crisis. we are going to make sure every woman has access to reproductive health care, including legal abortion. we are going to make sure every student no matter where they live gets a high-quality public education. we will continue to stand up to the attacks on our freedom to vote. we are going to make sure we are uplifting latino communities,

marginalized communities and people who have been shut out of opportunity. this race for governor is not about democrats or republicans. it is about sanity over chaos. it is not that kari lake probably's -- accepts support from nazis, but it is what she would actually do as governor. she is 100% against women's reproductive rights with no exception for rape or incest or life of the woman. she supports a band that completely criminalizes abortion. it was passed before arizona was a state and before women had the right to vote. i was three years old when roe v. wade was decided and now in 2022, i am angry that my 20-year-old daughter has less rights than i did 50 years ago.

speaking of elections, she continues to call to decertify the 2020 election, which is a concept she invented. while continuing to spew conspiracy theories, she says she will not accept the results of this one unless she is in the winter. she had said that she refuses to say if she will certify the 2020 four election results for president if she is governor. she wants to put cameras and all of her children's classrooms, which will not solve any real problems we are facing in education, but will open up our kids to big tech and big brother spying on them. she thinks regular people should own rocket launchers. which are weapons of war,

certainly not something that belongs in the hands of a dangerous criminal. kari lake has called to dismantle the country's top law enforcement agency. she has called for a secession, which would usher in another civil war. she has also promised that on day one of her administration she will declare an invasion at our southern border, which will do nothing to improve border security, but would unsure in untold levels of chaos into the state. she is out of touch with everyday arizonans. do we want to elect a governor who has focus their entire platform and being a sore loser or a governor who is going to get the job done for arizona? the 2020 election was a big deal, but it is nothing compared to what is that arizona's

doorstep today. i believe this election for governor might be the most important election in our state's history. we can win this race. it is tight. we knew it would be tight. we have 17 days. it is critical that you talk to your friends, family, neighbors about the stakes in the selection and how important it is that they vote in this election. i am not afraid of a tough fight. i have never lost an election and i do not intend to start now. [applause] >> thank you all so much and i look forward to winning alongside you in november. thank you. [applause] >> thank you so much.

i would love to take questions. >> i wrote it down because i am a little nervous. i am kathy and my husband and i live here with three rescue dogs. i am disabled with mental health illnesses, including ptsd. i am my husband's 24/7 caregiver and legal guardian. i am currently phone banking for you. i have four short questions. i will be quick. there are two topics very

important to us. the first topic is animal rights and the second is advocacy for the disabled and their caregivers. both constituencies are large voting blocs and i've been asked for the humane society to come meet with us and hopefully that will be helpful for you. regarding animals, in 2015, phoenix band sales of puppy mill puppies. but the legislature in 2016 said local jurisdictions were peer did. would you support allowing local jurisdictions [indiscernible]

>> i have always sided with local jurisdiction over state preemption. i have a lot of recognition from the towns that back that up. that has always been important to me. in terms of specifically by issue of puppy mill sales, i have also supported legislation to ban that. obviously, it did not go through but i would continue to support that as governor. >> the second animal related question is, the governor appoints one member per year to the state game and fish commission. that agent needs reform. -- that agency needs reform. when you commit to select commissioners who are protected of animals under their care? >> one, i guess.

>> the second topic is disability rights. arizona has an urgent housing crisis and it is even worse for people of color, disabled people and the elderly. there is years long waits for apartments and rents are being raised by hundreds of dollars at a time and people are ending up homeless. what do you think we can do about this? >> we absolutely have a housing crisis that needs to be addressed at the state level. we need to build more housing because we do not have enough and costs are skyrocketing. we need to make sure we have specialized housing for those special needs, including people

with disabilities, seniors on fixed income. i do not think this day has been a great partner with our local jurisdictions. we need to do better there. and look at the avenues we can pursue to make sure cities have what they need to build more affordable housing. >> lastly, critical and urgent follow-up is needed to get the arizona department of health services to comply with the auditor general report. it found that they have been mishandling complaints of sick and elderly arizonans in

long-term care facilities. >> this will not happen under my watch. it is unacceptable. i do not know how the governor was letting it continue. >> thank you so much. >> my question is education for latinos and other underserved communities is really the pathway for professional careers . my question to you is what kind of support will you provide as governor to fully fund preschool

to college education. second, what will you do to make sure latinos have representation? and other boards and commissions that make policy decisions that impact many of our communities. i am a school board member currently running for another term. it was my pathway just as it was for many of us sitting here today. i want to make sure you are going to be with us along this journey to make some practical implementations of policies that will help us. >> absolutely. our public schools are in crisis because our leaders have failed to invest. investing in public school is the best way that we cannot

provide equal opportunity for students across the state. they failed to work to address achievement gaps and make sure that every student has access to high-quality public education. school choice is not real choice for most students and we have to invest in our public schools to make sure every kid has that equal opportunity. we need to focus where there are achievement gaps and address that by investing in early childhood education. my education plan will fund universal pre-k starting in the neighborhoods that need it the most. we can make sure our students are getting off to the right start, that they are not falling behind and getting to graduation. so then we can get them into

pipelines for good paying jobs. making sure they are able to plug into those opportunities. we also provide a refundable tax credit for people pursuant a career in technical education that will lead to good payment careers with benefits. in terms of the board of regents, i've made a commitment and you can find this in my inclusive arizona plan. we are going to make sure every level of government is reflective of the diversity of our state. and that it is working to meet the needs of the diversity of our state. that includes the boards of regent, the commissions that nominate judges for the governor to appoint. those are critical roles.

we are going to make sure they are serving the needs of our community. >> i think we are confident that you understand all of the issues. we are in the home stretch. as our leader now, what would you tell us that we need to do between now and election day that will hammer it home? >> make sure everyone we know knows how important this election is and what is at stake. and that we are not assuming that they are going to participate and not sending it out. we have to make sure everyone is getting out to vote. we have 17 days to do that. i am confident when arizonans understand what is happening

this year, it is not just people running for office, it is our democracy. they will turn out to vote and we have to tell them that. >> i am doing phone banking with my phone -- neighbors and i have a phone number for volunteers who are organizers for mission arizona, which is organizing phone banking for the democrats. >> ok, thank you. >> what can we do about the people that are harassing voters at the drop boxes and will be at the polls and scaring away the election workers? that is such a frightening thing

and i am not sure what we can do. >> that is very likely voter intimidation and should be reported because it is not legal. every single eligible voter has the right to cast their ballot without interference. we are encouraging people to report it to my office, the secretary of state office. there was a report filed with us. we have sent them to the department of justice and the attorney general. i am hoping the news coverage of that particular incident makes people aware and they know they can report it if they are experiencing it. this is something we anticipated so we have been working to get out in front of it.

it is not ok and you can report it. if it is something you see, you can also reported. we are working with counties, we have guidance on voter intimidation. we are working with local law enforcement because we want to make sure there was not a situation where law enforcement gets involved and the situation is exacerbated rather than alleviated. >> one more question. >> a few years back, i taught classes for arizona game and fish. i followed our chat were that

lived in arizona. -- our jaguar. when donald trump started building the wall, the jaguar disappeared. can you do something about that? >> the wall is obviously a federal issue and it has created a lot of controversy and there is been environmental fights, indigenous people fights around where the wall is built. there is obviously a lot of other solutions besides the wall, like technology that can provide surveillance. as governor, i will advocate for the needs of the state. i think the president needs to do more to provide real border security, but i am not going to

do political stunts like the current governor. i think working in partnership is more effective than political stunts and that is what i will focus on. >> thank you very much. >> how much do you have control of this development? i have lived here since 1971. what kind of control does a government's office have to get the water issue? and the price. we have a bill in youngstown.

that is not a starter home for a young -- couple. >> a lot of that is up to local jurisdictions and the planning that local jurisdictions do. water is a big issue. we need leadership on water at the state level and we need to pursue innovative ways to augment our water supply and to conserve water so we can get out of this crisis. we have to plan smartly so that we are not over develop and. -- over developing. >> thank you. [applause] >> one more question.

>> thanks for coming out. just want to question. me and my wife have been going out to the community every two or three months helping out the homeless, providing for the veterans that are out there. we own a real estate company. within 10 minutes, 500 meals can be gone. what kind of game plan do you guys have to help out the people that are out there? it is growing and growing. i hope we can figure something out for them.

there is a lot of people who need help. >> as a social worker, i worked in the area of homelessness and it is a problem that is continuing to grow. we need more services and housing. we need more specialized housing that addresses special needs. the state needs to be a better partner with our local communities and helping to provide that. >> thank you. >> i forgot to introduce some people that are here today. margaret, councilperson from youngstown. rachel villa nueva, city council.

about two or three weeks ago, rachel posted -- hosted for adrian fontes. she is working hard for the democrats. the mayor of el mirage. donna winston, city council for [indiscernible] the past city manager of el mirage. kathy has already announced she is a volunteer.

and urban cart rate, what are you doing these days? >> i am very involved in our community. i am from here, our family ate is here. -- is from here. >> are you still involved in the northwest black history association? >> i am. >> i think that is it. >> your husband who is also city council. [applause] >> i wish you would stay. we have cake and coffee. even if you do not eat cake,

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