you would do this a little differently but his record of success and results speak for itself. again, i feel like sometimes you can tweak around the edges but overall, i appreciate the fact that he is fighting for our country. host: you joked that you might get in trouble. you still have communication with the president? guest: i do. i talked to him 10 days ago. he has been extremely supportive of me and my endeavors. he watches and i've gotten some feedback on my show. it airs every day at 6:00 on youtube. he has been incredibly helpful to me since i left the white house. he appointed me to the board of the u.s. naval academy. i appreciate his friendship and his support. host: and he watches the show, it sounds like. guest: he has >> we are going to leave this to

take you live to the oval office for remarks from president trump and elon musk. pres. trump: [indiscernible] government is a little bit nasty if you haven't noticed that. you have lead a charmed life. i think what i will do if you don't mind, numbers have just come out which are rather extraordinary and i thought i would play a tape of one of the people i have respected over the years from joe kiernan and rick santelli. this came out and we will play that for a second. >> personal income is up 0.8% of 0.8%, that is almost triple the expectations. the income numbers for the first four months of the year are really stellar. i could go back and look at the first four months of many different years, but really

strong numbers, you are right. this administration is criticized for just about everything under the sun. in my lifetime i have never had glimpses into the politics of an administration in the form of transparency like this one. why don't we give credit where credit is due? i also thought everybody was going to get one last order of imports that were going to be tariffe andd they were loading up on things. how the hell did they already fix the -- not fix it, but to cut it in half, that is crazy, so there wasn't a lot of frontloading of things they needed before the tariffs hit? >> yes, i tell you what, it does call into question some of the conventional wisdom and it is going to be interesting to see what happens next month when we get this number or we see some of the other numbers like current-accounts, see how they fared. i have been watching these numbers along time.

i don't think i've ever seen a trade deficit cut that munch it -- much in one month. [applause] elon: come on, guys. [laughter] [applause] pres. trump: not bad. it is great. do you guys want to stand over here? you guys are the ones who helped produce those numbers and it will only get better. the tariffs are so important and that is why we were so happy with the decision yesterday where the tariffs continue because without the tariffs our nation would be in peril. we would really be in peril and we can say that with great surety. so, we were very happy with that decision, that big decision yesterday and today it is about a man named elon and he is one of the greatest business leaders and innovators the world has ever produced. he stepped forward to put his very great talents into the service of our nation and we appreciate it and just want to

say that elon has worked tirelessly helping lead the most sweeping and consequential government reform program in generations. and you know the kind of things that he has found and his people have found, very smart people, can they found things that are pretty unbelievable. i have to say that the numbers that we are talking about are substantial, but they are going to be very much more substantial over time as many of the things we are working on right now we will have to remember elon as we find them, but numbers could double and triple because many, many things we don't want to go out with them until we are sure but we have found with the department of government efficiency, elon has installed geniuses with an engineering mindset and talented

people in computers i asked about their primary things, he said they are best at working with computers so they can't be outsmarted by somebody not so honest that happens to also be good with computers but not as good as these people. the mindset of the senior ranks of every federal department has really changed and with elon's guidance, they are detecting fraud/waste and moderating -- and modernization. let's say the irs, the job can be done in 1/10 of the time but it takes sometimes years to rebuild those systems but we started. in many cases we've started, i will say this has less to do with elon, but the air traffic

control systems, we are bidding to the best companies in the world those systems right now, the previous administration was horrible what they did, they spent billions and billions of dollars and in the end it didn't come close to working. they tried to hook up wire to copper and it can't be done -- they made the system much worse. we are going to get a new modern system. congress is working with us on that and we will get it done as quickly as we can. but it's in the works and when it is done it will be good for 30 years. we have a system that's 40 years old and we will have a modern computer hooked into an outdated computer and they don't hook up. after spending billions of dollars they turned on the system and never, any cases, from local to countrywide, they never worked. more than 75,000 bureaucrats

have voluntarily left taxpayer-funded jobs to come out and really do the job. countless whistle and unnecessary contracts have been terminated. we have terminated many contracts and many contracts are being looked at. it may be six months, almost a year in some cases, we are going through procedures, we are going through courts and we will remember you as we announce billions of dollars of extra waste, fraud and abuse. as an example doge canceled 100 million dollars for d.e.i. contracts of the department of education, on hundred $1 million, just a small section of the department of education. 59 million dollars for illegal alien hotel rooms in new york city. the landlord never made the kind of money he made in the last short period of time.

$59 million to a hotel in new york city, $45 million for diversity, equity and inclusion scholarships in burma. does anyone know about burma? $42 million for social and behavior change in uganda. $40 million to improve the social and economic inclusion of sedentary migrants. i can say $2 billion to stacey abrams and her environmental movement. $100 in the account and all of a sudden they found $2 billion in the account and i assume that's being looked at, i'm not sure. think of that, $2 billion. another one for $20 billion being spent on another environmental -- not $20 million, not $200,000, which is a lot. in her case, you have $100 and all of a sudden she gets hit

with an infusion of $2 billion just before i take office. $20 million for arab sesame street in the middle east, nobody knows what that is about, nobody can find it. $8 million for making mice transgender. they spent $8 million to make mice transgender. those are better than many of the others. i could sit here all day and reach things like that but we have other things to do. it's much more than that. we are committed to making the doge cuts permanent and stopping the waste. we want to get our great, big, beautiful bill finished. we put some of this into the bill. most of it will come later. we will have it affirmed by congress. in some cases we will make cuts and in some cases we will just use it in a different layer to

save money. it is hundreds of billions of dollars. doge has modernize the federal retirement process and continues to work hard on the iris modernization. we are taking that over with doge. many of the doge people are staying behind and elon will be back and forth i have a feeling. it is his baby and i think you will do a lot of things. his service to america has been without comparison in modern history he's already running one of the most innovative car companies in the world, you look at his factories and compare them with the old factories we have and it a big difference the most successful space company i guess in history you would have to say, the largest free-speech platform on the internet, etc. yet with all of the success, he willingly accepted the outrageous abuse and slander and lies and attacks because he does love our country.

comes from another country, a country going through trials and tribulations i would say. he is all about the usa and americans owe him a debt of gratitude. i want to thank elon for his time as a special government employee -- can you imagine we call him an employee. special government employee. for helping us and he really has changed the mindset of a lot of people. a lot of people thought we would cut 1% or 2% and 3% and they said we can cut more than that and we will do it very surgically and continue on the march. we are making america great again. when i was in saudi arabia, we were in three really great countries, dominantly the 3 -- qatar was great, uae was great,

saudi arabia, incredible. an incredible experience to be in those three countries. the crown prince of saudi arabia -- and i must tell you, the great leaders of the other two we just mentioned, they all said the same thing, that the united states is the hottest country right now anywhere in the world. six month ago we thought it was dead, it was like a dead country and it would have been a dead country, we didn't have the right result november 5. it would've been a horrible situation going on with the borders and transgender for everyone, men playing in women's sports and so much more. they were saying the hottest country anywhere in the world and then i played that little clip because that was one person that was respected. that was one group of people saying something about the success of what we've done the last four months, they can't believe it.

in one case they said they've never seen anything like it as long as they've been doing what they have been doing and they've been doing it a long time. i want to thank elon for helping. the united states right now is the hottest country anywhere in the world, no country as hot. we are doing really well. when i left we had no wars, no problems, we defeated isis and rebuilt our military and we had no inflation. when i came back we had a lot of inflation, we had wars all over the place, we had the embarrassment in afghanistan where we gave up billions and billions of dollars of military equipment, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, i believe that strongly. we have russia with ukraine, the attack on israel in october, the horrible attack, october 7, horrible, horrible attack it, no one has seen anything like it.

now we have something where we are healing a lot of that. we stopped india and pakistan from fighting, i believe that could have turned into a nuclear disaster. i want to thank the leaders of india and the leaders of pakistan and i want to thank my people. we talked trade and we said we can't trade with people who are shooting at each other and potential using nuclear weapons. they are great leaders in those countries and they understood and they agreed and that all stopped and we are stopping others from fighting also because ultimately we can fight better than anybody have the greatest military in the world, we have the greatest leaders in the world. we put one of them in charge of the joint chiefs of staff as you know. we completely wiped out isis in three weeks, i said it would take five years and we did it in

three weeks. we don't want to have to use our military, we want to be peace through strength when we can and that's the way we will have it. i want to thank elon and all of his people. most of those people, almost all of them are staying and you will see the results long into the future, even a year and two years later you will see a lot of the results. those hundreds of billions of dollars will add up and they will continue to add -- it will be really interesting to see what the final numbers will be. elon gave an incredible service -- nobody liked him and he had to go through the slings and arrows, which is a shame because he's an incredible patriot. the good news is 90% of the country knows that and appreciate at and what he did and we have a little special something here, a very special that i give to very special people. i've given it to some, but it

goes to very special people and i thought i would give it to elon as a presentation from our country. take care. [applause] mr. musk: this is not the end of doge but the beginning. my time had to end, it was a limited time thing. it comes with a time limits. but the team will only grow stronger over time. the influence will only grow stronger. it is like a way of life. it has permeated through the government and i'm confident over time we will see a trillion dollars of savings, trillion

dollars of waste and fraud reduction. the calculations of the team thus far in terms of fy 25 to fy 26 are over $160 billion. we expected to go over $200 billion soon. the team has done an incredible job, they will continue doing an incredible job and i will continue to be visiting and be a friend and advisor the president and look forward to being back in this amazing room. isn't this incredible? the way the president has redone the oval office is beautiful. i love the gold on the ceiling. pres. trump: thank you. it has been there a long time, it was plaster and nobody saw it, they didn't know the eagle was up there.

it's a great landmark. that's when he four karat gold and everybody loved it and now they see it when they come in. mr. musk: the oval office finally has the majesty it deserves thanks to the president. i will continue to be a friend and advisor to the president, to support the doge team and we are relentlessly pursuing a trillion dollars in waste and fraud reduction that will benefit the american taxpayer. that's it. thank you. pres. trump: thank you. [applause] >> the president mentioned you had to deal with slings and arrows. some of the many organizations -- [laughter]

the new york times -- mr. musk: is that the same publication that got a pulitzer prize for false reporting on russiagate? i think it is. i think the judges ruled against the new york times for their lives against the hoax and they might have to give back the pulitzer prize. that new york times? let's move on. >> president trump. biden aids he used to work here are in talks with republicans in congress to testify about what they did or didn't do to possibly conceal president biden's decline. do you think dr. joe biden should also have to come in and testify about what she did or didn't do? pres. trump: i hate the concept of it. it's the wife of a man who was

going through a lot of problems and everybody that dealt with him understood that and i guess it came out in the debate loud and clear, that was the biggest signal of all. they had to do what was right. there was a lot of dishonesty in the election as you know, 2020, people understand it was a rigged election. when you go further out and i think the auto pin will be one of the great scandals of all time. joe biden wasn't in favor of letting in people from prisons and mental institutions, he wasn't into that at all. all of the orders and things he signed the set our country back, it was so bad for a country. >> we are in the oval office right now. if there was a group of rogue

staffers that worked for you that wanted to advance a bill or executive order without your knowledge, how could they do it? pres. trump: i read your newspapers or media the next day and say i didn't approve that and i would find it, they wouldn't get away with it for long. auto pins to me are used to sign letters to people, i think they said 20,000 letters a week and you like to be able when somebody takes the time to write a letter it's nice to write back and they are meant for that. they are not meant to sign major proclamations or tax cuts or borders or anything to do with the border, which is so important. if it happened on my watch i would be able to see it because the next day or sooner i would be reading about something i knew nothing about and who signed this? i almost never use the auto p

en. yesterday i signed 81 proclamations and statements to people i think should be signed -- i think when you write letters to foreign dignitaries or presidents or prime minister's you should be signing those letters. i understand he signed almost everything with an autopen. it really means you're not president. whoever operated the autopen, and we think we know who that is and it was more than one person. that's not what the presidency is about. [reporters clamoring] >> the tariffs on china you said they violated the agreement with the u.s.. pres. trump: they violated a big part of the agreement. if you read the statement, i was nice to them, i helped them, they were in trouble with the stoppage of a massive amount of business. i will speak to president xi and

hopefully we will work it out but it's a violation of the agreement. >> can you give us an update to the latest cease-fire agreement israel has agreed to but hamas is still considering? pres. trump: they are close to an agreement on gaza and we will let you know during the day or maybe tomorrow. i think we have a chance of making a deal with iran also, they don't want to be blown up, they would rather make a deal. that could happen in the not-too-distant future and it would be a great thing if we could have a deal without bombs being dropped all over the middle east, it would be a very good thing. we want them to be safe and have a very successful nation, let it be a great nation come up that they can't have a nuclear weapon, it's very simple. we are fairly close to a deal with iran. >> you said just now you look forward to been a friend and advisor to the president, do you expect to continue advising the

president and doge informally or will you shift your focus entirely to your company's? mr. musk: i expect to continue to provide advice, whenever the president would like advice. pres. trump: i hope so. mr. musk: i expect to remain a friend and advisor. if there's anything the president wants me to do. >> you said there was a trillion dollar promise for cuts from doge. mr. musk: we expect overtime to achieve a trillion dollars. >> what have you found was the biggest roadblock to getting those cuts? the cabinet, congress, some thing else? mr. musk: it's mostly a lot of work. it's going through millions of line items that make sense or

don't make sense. when you cut expenses, those receiving the money, whether they are receiving legitimately or not, they do complain. you're not going to hear so much confessing that they received money inappropriately. it's a lot of work going through the vast expenses of the government and asking questions. what is this money for, are you sure it's being used well? for a lot of the expenses there is no defender at all. we work through stopping the spending, a lot of times no one knows why it's spent and it is absurd. there are millions of software licenses with zero people using

them. exactly. it's the quizzical expression, surely someone should be using them. we've got to go through the process of saying ok, we can terminate this license agreement. that's everywhere in the government. >> what do you think would be easier, colonizing mars or making the government efficient? [laughter] mr. musk: it's a tough call. i think colonizing mars is harder. we do expect to achieve the savings. we can't do it in a few months. the official end of doge is the middle of next year. by the middle of next year i think they can achieve the savings. >> you mentioned earlier in the

week that doge had become a whipping boy and the president mentioned he went through a lot in the process. was it worth it for you and what would you change? mr. musk: what we found was happening is if there were any cuts anywhere, people assume it was done by doge. we became the bogeyman. any cut anywhere would be ascribed to doge. a friend of mines daughter thought doge had cut the -- for the senate. we had nothing to do with that. it became a bit ridiculous where any cut anywhere was supposed to be doge.

it made no sense. it is the an all people of -- banal evil of bureaucracy, the uncaring nature of bureaucracy. when it is someone else's money being spent on people you don't know. that's how federal spending is. you can't blame the individuals because the way the government works is -- when someone in the government tries to stop the money being spent, it is really -- complaints. the manager will say it's not worth the trouble, pay it anyway. i think it was a necessary thing and it will have a good effect on the future. >> this week there was a video

on board a plane that showed the first lady of france slapping her husband. do you have any world leader marital advice? [laughter] pres. trump: make sure the door remains closed. [laughter] no i spoke to him and he is fine, they are fine. they are good people and i know them very well. i don't know what that was about but i know very well they are fine. >> you have a plan -- they have a plan to avoid being swept in battleground states. pres. trump: we spent much less, about half of what they spent.

at the end they were $28 million short. they spent $2.8 billion but they couldn't get $28 million at the end and now they want to spend money to learn how to talk, that's fake, you shouldn't have to hire consultants. the consultant should be running the deal and not them, that i read they want to spend money in each state, we won all swing states, the popular vote and everything. they want to spend money to find out what they did wrong. i can tell you what they did wrong, i could tell you one of their programs, men playing in women's sports is not a winner, when they say transgender for everybody, that's not a winner. when they say open borders of the entire world population of criminals can pour into the country, i don't think that's a winner. i gave them that for free.

i see them all the time, i see people i know and congress, democrats, trying to justify some of the things i just said -- you can't justify them. i see 80-20, i say they are not, they wish they were. they are wasting a lot of money to continue with that nonsense. >> when you hosted the apprentice you mentioned in 2012 that diddy was a good friend of years, and has since gotten serious legal trouble. would you ever consider pardoning him? pres. trump: nobody has asked. i know people are thinking about it. i think some people have been close to asking. first of all i would look at what is happening and i haven't been watching it closely

although it's getting a lot of coverage. i haven't spoken to him in years. he used to really like me a lot but i think when i ran for politics that relationship busted up. i would read some nasty statements in the paper. you become a much different person when you run for politics and you do what's right i could do other things and i'm sure he would like me and other people would like me but it wouldn't be as good for our country. our country is doing really well because of what we are doing. it's not a popularity contest. i would look at the facts. if i think somebody was mistreated, whether they like me or don't, it wouldn't have any impact. >> the bill, would you like to see the senate build and support for tariffs or should that be a stand-alone bill? pres. trump: i have great support on the tariffs. we are honored we got the

ridiculous stay lifted because it would've taken away presidential power and everything granted by the founders. it would have been a terrible thing and would have left us vulnerable. a lot of countries use tariffs on us viciously and if we didn't have the power to use tariffs on them -- and instantly, not when you go to congress and try to get hundreds of people to agree, it would take months to get one simple proclamation. if we didn't have the power to counteract their powers, you wouldn't have a country left. we have to act fast. we have to be fast and nimble as they say. that was a great mom and i think yesterday when that stay was lifted and hopefully now we will go to court and win the battle because if we don't have the power to do what they are doing to us, we are going to be a great nation no longer. >> elon musk was once idolized

by the left before joining your administration and now he's considered a hero by conservatives. why do you think this man, what he's done has been so politicized? pres. trump: his life has been amazing. i look at different things. i look at the rocket being guided i can to position, i've never seen that before, i thought it was a movie. you look at what he's done in terms of communication it's been unbelievable. tunnels going underground. he's got so many different companies. star link. he saved probably hundreds of lives in north carolina. they needed star link in north carolina and i didn't know what it was, i said who owns it? they said do you know elon musk?

it was before his government stay, and north carolina had become an island, they had no access to anything and they were dying. i called him up, and you can't get it, he had so much of it brought over and they told me it was unbelievable and saved a lot of lives. he's done a lot of things. frankly i don't think he gets credit for what he's done. he's a very good person. if you wasn't -- he happens to be a really good person who loves the country. >> the bill, you indicated this week there were some things you didn't like about what had passed in the house. what changes do you want to see the senate make and you also indicated there were things you didn't like about the bill, what would you suggest senators change? pres. trump: it is an

unbelievable bill, it cuts your deficits -- it is a huge cutting. there are things i would like to see cut more. i would like to see a bigger cut in taxes. it will be the largest tax decrease or cut in the history of our country. i'd like it to get to a lower number. i was shooting for a slightly lower number. i would to have liked to do that. with all that being said, when you look at the tax cut and the fact the original tax cut -- we had the most successful four years in the history of our country with the economy and this will be even better. you see that with the reports that came out yesterday or tonight, i guess they were released this morning at 8:00, you see the numbers were somebody who was a pro is like i haven't seen numbers like this since i've been doing this. these are human emotions of professionals who have never seen numbers like -- and we have just started. the bill is a great bill.

it will be dickered around a little bit, negotiated, but the end result is it extends the trump tax cuts for if it doesn't get approved, you will have a 68% tax increase, you will go up 68%. that's a number nobody has ever heard of before. you will have a maximum -- a massive tax increase. if it does get approved you will have a large tax cut, the largest we've ever had when you at the past tax cuts we got you, they called on the trump tax cuts. it's an amazing bill and does amazing things. with all of that it will be adjusted a little bit and i think it will be passed. the republicans want to pass it. with all the great things it does including an extension of debt -- we have to extend the debt, if we don't, we are in default. the democrats might like our

country to be in default but in 250 years we've never been in default. that was handed to them by a well-meaning man that gave it to them because he thought it was the right thing to do. it could have been their problem before the election but this man thought it was the right thing to do and he was well-meaning. i don't hold anything against him for that. but that was put on our plate when it should've been the democrats -- september 20, a famous date, it should've been taken care of by the democrats. a man of power gave it to us. we have to take care of that because if we don't, we have a country in default and we don't want to have a country in default. i will tell you, a certain senator, elizabeth warren, said she would never ever allow a default on our debt, she would never let it happen and she

would like to get rid of the debt ceiling, what's called the debt ceiling, i call it the dead extension because we really need an extension, that she'd like to see that got rid of and many people agree. many democrats agree with that. we gave that -- i don't want to say he did it come a well-meaning -- he gave it to us, it was a democrat problem just before the election, would have had a huge impact on the election to our benefit and we won anyway. felt that for the good of the country we should extend that. but elizabeth warren and various other people would like to see -- her whole career she wanted to see it terminated, got rid of , not voted on every five years or 10 years and the reason is it is so catastrophic for our country. i always agreed with her, it's one thing i agreed with her on i haven't spoken to her but i would say if you asked her that question now she would say no,

it's their problem. but it's a very unfortunate situation and unfair. she happened to be right on that, it should be gotten rid of or extended. that's one of the things that gets taken care of in this bill, that automatically gets extended for four years. but i agree with elizabeth worn on that i think you should get rid of it, it's too catastrophic. >> -- international students coming to study in the united states. pres. trump: we want to have great students we just don't want students causing trouble. i want to have foreign students and i think harvard is close to 31%, that's a lot. our country has given $5 billion to harvard over a short period of time, nobody knew that, we found that out, i would say that's a doge thing, but we

found that out and it was a trump thing and we were in litigation for other things because they are very anti-semitic. in going through the books we found out the country gave them $5 billion-plus, much more than that. let's see what happens i think we have a very good -- well, it's a sad case, it's a case we win because we have the right to make grants and we won't make any grants like that. but i don't think harvard has been acting very -- i think columbia wants to get to the bottom of the problem, they have acted very well and their other institutions -- but harvard is trying to be a big shot. all that happens is every three days we find another $100 million that was given. the last two days we found 200 million dollars more, the money is given to them like gravy. i would like to see the money going to trade schools were people learn to fix motors and engines and learn how to build

rocket ships. somebody has to build those rocket ships and i would like to see trade schools set up because you can take 5 billion plus, hundreds of billions more and have the greatest trade school system anywhere in the world -- that's what we need, to build his rockets and robots and things he's doing and lots of other things. i went to school with people and in some cases they were not good students but they could fix the engine of a car better than anybody, they could take it apart blindfolded and they had an ability at that and did very well and made a lot of money, it's a very skilled job. i would like to see money going into trade schools, i've always felt that. we probably found our pot of gold and it's been wasted at places like harvard, and the money's been wasted. >> what happened to your eye? mr. musk: i wasn't anywhere near france.

>> what does that mean? >> the first lady of france. mr. musk: i was running around and it turns out a five euro punching you in the face -- pres. trump: x could do it. mr. musk: i didn't feel much of the time but i guess it bruises up. pres. trump: i didn't notice it. >> i know you try to stay neutral because not your war -- pres. trump: not my war, i just want to solve the problem for people, this was not a war that would happen if i were president. >> but as you try to fix it and survey this health scape of the ukrainian frontlines and you and your team deal with a very stubborn vladimir putin -- pres. trump: and zelenskyy.

>> do you see putin as the good guy or bad guy? pres. trump: i've known him very well and i went through a lot of things with him because of the russia hoax, it was a total hoax , new york times got a pulitzer prize they have to give back. that's my lawsuit into they are doing poorly at that lawsuit. the wrote stories about how it was true and it was false. the washington post also. i have gone to see things i was very surprised at. rockets being shot into cities like kyiv during a negotiation i felt was close to ending. we were gonna solve a problem and then rockets got shot into a couple of cities and people died .

i saw things i was surprised at and i don't like being surprised. i'm very disappointed in that way. that said, i would like to see it end -- 5000 people, i think it's more than that, but 5000 people a week are being killed. mostly soldiers but also people who live in cities and towns throughout ukraine. i would like to see that stop. >> i asked caroline yesterday but i want to ask you directly. some any of the things you are trying to do are held up in court right now. if the courts are going to have so much influence over u.s. policy to you wish you would have become a judge instead? pres. trump: it wasn't meant to be that way, you look at the founders, the president has certain powers. you have your three groups and they are supposed to be equal powers. but you can't have a judge in boston running foreign policy and places all over the country

because he's a radical left person. at with the executive branch is for, you have checks and balances. we had millions of people poured into our country, many criminals poured into our country, murderers, mental institutions from all over the world being emptied into her country and if we don't get them out quickly, you could lose your country quickly. that anybody would allow this to happen to our country -- all of the things, we took over inflation, s'mores, a lot of problems that didn't exist when i was president, none of it existed, we wiped out isis. other than that, no wars, putin was never going to hit ukraine, israel would never have been attacked. as you know, iran had no money, they didn't have money for hamas or hezbollah, no money whatsoever, that wasn't going to happen. you wouldn't have had inflation.

it is very sad when i came back but the thing that's the hardest is they allowed 21 million people into our country and many of those people are stone cold criminals. they moved their criminal population into the united states. of all the things that are bad -- i solved inflation, i got the fuel prices down, it's one of the reasons -- they screwed up the energy, they screwed up the cost of gasoline and oil and gas. you had tremendous inflation -- the greatest inflation in the history of our country under biden. people said the connie -- no, economy was terrible for the people because they couldn't afford energy and it brought every thing else up. with all of that, we solved that already in four months.

$1.98 gasoline, first time people have seen that since my term. many of people are pouring into the country and many of them are criminals, these countries are smart and they send the people they don't want. they don't want the people there law-abiding and working hard, they want people in jails -- we have them. they allow them to come in. i always look to the other side like why would somebody do something? in business i try to study, why would they do this, why would they buy it? one thing i can't figure out is what would an administration -- what were they thinking when they allowed millions of people from prisons all over the world -- not just from south america, venezuela -- all of the world, from the congo in africa --

hundreds of people, thousands of people from the congo, rough prisoners. from asia, from europe, rough parts of europe. why would they allow them to come into our country, why would they do that? it's the one thing i can't figure out. i don't believe it was joe biden. he's been sort of a moderate person. not a smart person. a somewhat vicious person i will say. if you feel sorry for him, don't feel sorry because he was vicious what he did with his political opponent and he heard a lot of people so i don't feel sorry for him. he wasn't a person who would allow murderers to come into our country, he wasn't a person in favor of transgender for anybody that wanted it, take kids out of families, etc. i don't understand why a thing like this could have been

allowed to happen. it's very sad for our country. mr. musk: i think the fundamental moral flaw of the left is empathy for criminals and not the victims. empathy for the criminals but not the victims. there's been way too much of that and it needs to stop. to the president's point there has been immense judicial overage that's unconstitutional. it was never intended. it's undermining the people's faith in the legal system. it needs to stop and has gone too far. pres. trump: just today, a couple hours ago we had a great decision from the supreme court, thank goodness, that was very important, we had two important decisions yesterday on tariffs because again we have to be able to fight a fair fight with other countries.

we have to be able to use tariffs to fight people that use tariffs on us. if we didn't have that power, we would economically be destroyed as a country because other countries will destroy us with unchecked tariffs. they tried to take that power away from us and if you take that away we won't have a country, we won't have an economically viable country. but it's very important on immigration that we be able to get people out without having to go through a long court -- every single one of these -- millions of people, criminals, prisoners let go from jails because they save a fortune, they brought them into the united states, you know the money they are saving? but some are murderers. it's important we can get those people out of here fast and bring them back to their country where they belong. those countries take them

because if they don't they have to go through the wrath of the united states and they take them. we have judges that don't want that to happen. it's a terrible thing. it's going through the court system right now, that whole situation. when ice and border patrol, they've done an incredible job, when they do this incredible job and the capture 100 killers and drug dealers -- we can't keep that for years as we go through trials. we have to get them out rapidly and we know who they are. we know who they are. we are very careful about who they are but we have to get them out rapidly or again we won't have a country. one or two more. >> the tariff may also affect companies like tesla that have parts manufactured elsewhere. pres. trump: i thought he built his whole car here, pretty much

he does. he's got incredible factories, i looked at one in texas, it's unbelievable. all of the manufacturers who build parts here too. that used to bother me, they would make a part in canada come apart in mexico come apart in europe and send it all over the place and nobody knew what was happening. you build a car and make it in america. i gave them a little leeway on that, gave them some leeway. next year they've got to have the whole thing built in america. we want americans to buy american built cars, thank you very much. it was a good meeting. >> thank you, keep going, thanks guys, let's go straight out here. >> later today, president trump speaks about a merger between u.s. steel and a japanese country. watch from west mifflin,

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