bush and new yorkers out from the subways to the streets fears of deportation in the city the greatest city in the world at a tipping point with the challenges from washington heights to washington d.c. who's the city's next mayor? live from rockefeller center the first democratic primary debate for new york city mayor and city council speaker agent adams former assemblyman michael blake, former governor andrew

cuomo brad lander, state senator jessica former counselor scott stringer from hedge fund manager. sponsored by a news for new york, politico, but nigbor city committee finance board here now your anchor. >> good evening everyone welcome to the first democratic primary debate for new york city mayor i'm joined by mcauley news for governor affairs selleck goldenberg seen her new york for politico and anchor. this is a two hour debate live on streaming and digital platforms politico.com, and youtube.

this first hour live on channel four that leading democratic contenders are here tonight. their positions on chains were chosen by random draw. a few rules from traditional question and answer you'll have one question to respond and 382nd rebuttals at the moderator's discretion will be asking questions will be looking for shorter answers and we reserve the right if you ignore the rules but of course we don't want to do that. the goal is for you to hear each other and new yorkers to hear everything you have to say good luck to all we will begin. >> good evening everyone it's good to have you. we are going to begin tonight with the issue of polls show is number one for new yorker cost of everything is squeezing a residence in our city. new housing can take years to build we will get your plans on that a little bit later in the debates. right now we are interested in how it would help residents

immediately? to make the city more affordable now and how we pay for it? we will begin with you at ms. adams. >> thank you so much thank you for having me this evening. i'm actually only candidate on this stage is actually doing the work already. we have a housing plan already i have built an house and not with the new proposal we have in front of us we have over 80000 new units of housing that will be coming up will be affordable to the people of new york. new york is not affordable i am a mother, grandmother i want my children to stay here just like real new yorkers when their children to stay here. >> think it ms. adams should remind everyone this is 8:30 second answer will go to you next mr. lander melissa good evening everyone and brad lander the new york city controller lifelong affordable housing activists i am a proud brooklyn dad tonight i will show you i'm

the only one in this race with the progressive values to make the city more affordable with a public integrity to sweep away the corruption of eric adams and andrew cuomo with a proven management experience having already delivered over 50000 affordable homes to actually deliver on my promises. >> okay we won't move on i want to remind everyone the question is what is your one big idea to make the city more affordable now and how we pay for? thirty seconds per. >> thank you good evening. thank you so much for holding this form affordability have been top of mind for new yorkers since before the pandemic the pandemic only exacerbated the conditions for new yorkers this is why i set out as chair of the labor committee and the new york state senate to raise the minimum wage to type to inflation i am proud to be the last person to have done that. i'm the only person on this

stage who's already at a desk at that mayor's office this is why i know the first think i want to do on day one is enacted mental health emergency so we can keep our streets safe. all right i have not heard many big ideas yet if you can answer in 30 seconds your big idea for more affordable and how we pay for question reports thank you i do have one big idea, i have three i want to deliver 1 million homes over the next 10 years i want universal after school for every kid in the city from age three to grade 123k pass 2:30 p.m. until six or my parents gave me at 58 years ago working factories about food on the table unit members that make the public schools that's how i became a state senator and why i'm standing on the station i put that same opportunity needs to be restored for so many new yorkers that's white new leadership is needed not the leaders of the past to cause a problem there. >> thank you. mr. cuomo per.

>> thank you, thank you very much. thank you wnbc and telemundo for hosting today's. i am running for mail i think the city is in real trouble i think we have a management crisis between the atoms in lander administration i think we have a fiscal crisis where the city is spending more every year than it's taking in. i think we have a societal crisis we have division and hates. on affordability raise the minimum wage put more money to people's pocket more childcare,, afterschool care, and of course build affordable housing is a hud secretary and how to do it. >> thank you i'm turning it over to rose arena per. >> thank you. thank you so much for being here tonight. were going to ask the same question again but please listen question what is your one big idea to make the city more affordable now and how we pay for it again 30 seconds. >> thank you for having me.

now it may take a couple of years but he think we need to address the housing crisis. most of the people on this stage have called to freeze the rent but i want to go one better i think lynn should drop rent by 20% unleashing the private sector to build a lot more housing. this is not pie-in-the-sky at new york did it 100 years ago austin has done in the past three years the key is to ease the zoning restrictions and all the other regulations. >> thank you very much. mr. mamdani. >> thank you for having we are live and most expensive city and the noises of america. one important new yorkers are living in poverty i am running to be your next mayor comment to make the city affordable i will do so by freezing the rent for more than 2 million tenants by making the slowest buses in the country's fast and free by delivering universal childcare i will pay for this by taxing the 1% the billionaires and the profitable corporations that mrn

working-class new yorkers. i will ask them to pay their fair share so we can have a city everyone can afford too. >> thank you can i jump in for one moment. mr. mamdani how do you convince alma to pass that tax increase question what we have heard from governor hogle it's not something she's singing about doing. how can you guarantee that will happen? what's i've explained this, actually, my first in the state legislature i came to albany we had a governor then who did not want to raise taxes on billionaires and corporations were that was then governor cuomo. we actually overcame his objections raise $4 billion in annual revenue and finally fund the very public schools. >> thank you very much we have to go with mr. blake now. >> as a south bronx native, family of jamaican immigrants, the way we address affordability is by ending credit scores and increasing income limits for housing applications having universal childcare not just afterschool but throughout the weekend. we pay for this by having a vacant apartment tax for those not living in new york city.

by withholding taxes to dsc that trump has taken against us making sure come as much as ilove the knicks you have to tax what's happening in madison square garden. that is how you pay for but that's how we can forward it too. >> thank you mr. blake. mr. stringer. >> i want to put forth the programs that can get done for young families and the people who built the city. it is very simple. we need to use city-owned vacant aunts and transform that land into affordable housing for that property is not for profit limited profit develops not that luxury developers that fund andrew cuomo's campaign but developers that can build what we need. we owe it to the people who built the city and are now fleeing the city because they cannot afford to live there. we need to welcome the next generation of new yorkers who will be here if we give them hope and opportunity and affordability. >> thank you. now, let's turn to president trump who looms large over the city given his proposed funding

cut in his interest in hometown affairs. democrats say they want a mayor who will stand up to him. mr. cuomo you branded the president a bully. mr. stringer you called him a shit mr. lander he put his name on a car and crush it in a tv ad. voters want to know how you will actually deal with the present if you are elected mayor question request questions for each of you you have one minute to answer. mr. cuomo, we will start with you but you have experience collaborating and battling the president. currently the justice department is investigating you. following a criminal referral from congress alleging you lied during testimony about your involvement in a report that undercounted nursing home deaths during covid with that probe underweight, how do you assure voters she would not be compromised and you're dealing with the president if you are elected mayor? >> this is what mr. trump does, right question rick start an investigation against me, kathy hochul, senator chuck schumer, against hilary clinton, this is

one of his tactics. i know how to deal with donald donald trumpbecause i have dealm before. many times, we invented many encounters with fight it out a daily basis during covid and i won many of those battles. i fought him on ice. this is not the first time he's brought ice to new york and he has done that before and we fought him and we won. so, he can be beaten. but he has to know he's up against an adversary who can actually beat him. and i can tell you this. i am the last person on this stage that mr. trump wants to see as mayor and that is why i should be the first choice for the people of the city to have as mayor. >> to follow up on that though, democrats raise concerns about your testimony so as not only republicans. putting partisan politics aside for a minute how would you respond to voters about the

congressional findings of your involvement in that report? >> putting partisan politics aside is virtually impossible nowadays it is so toxic out there. the issue of covid became a political football right away. it still is a political football between democrats and republicans and even within the democratic party and within the republican party. it's unfortunate we should of been learning from experience in finding out how we could be better prepared for the next time. but unfortunately in the toxic environment it did nothing but politicized over and over again. >> we have to move on. the question was how would you respond to the allegations but we have to move on. all right mr. mamdani you have said mr. trump's department cannot be trusted that was after

you spoke of mr. cuomo's alleged reported investigation. first quickly a yes or no answer, do you think president trump is unfairly targeting mr. cuomo? >> no i do not think it is unfair but i have no interest in believing they are pursuing justice. >> the second part of my question. >> to be clear is not unfair because andrew cuomo did lied to congress and ultimately we know the trump justice department a trump administration as a whole is interested more in vindictiveness and persecution of political enemies than anything to do justice very. >> okay moving forward you are also a socialist. because of that why it wouldn't president trump target you an extension target new yorkers? you have one minute. >> president trump will target home ever is the next mayor of the city president trump even targeted and many ways mayor eric adams he was collaborated with the trump administration almost every opportunity and still in the midst of the

collaboration we sought new yorkers are being taken off the streets in their apartment building lobbies we have $80 million being taken out of a citibank account. i don't think there's any question there's any mayor here that will be free from being attacked by donald trump. what is more important is that we have a mayor who will actually fight back. that is what i will do it i am donald trump's worst nightmare as a progressive muslim immigrant who actually fights for the things i believe in for the difference between myself and andrew cuomo is that my campaign is not funded by the very billionaires who put donald trump in d.c. i do have to pick up the phone i have to pick up the phone for that more than 20000 new yorkers who contributed an average donation of about $80 to break fundraising records and put her campaign in second place. >> mr. cuomo doing respond to that? >> yes please. you know mr. mamdani is very good at twitter and videos but produce nothing and accusing me of lying. he also called president obama a

liar and said president obama was evil preacher take everything with a grain of salt. donald trump would go through mr. mamdani like a hot knife through butter he has been in government 27 admitted pass three bills that's all he's done he has no extremes with washington. no experience in new york city. he would be trump's delight. >> okay brief response and that we have to move on to quickly destroy do not have with corrupt trump billionaires finding my campaign with party politics and insider consultants it. i do have experience however with wooding forney $50 million in debt relief for thousands of working-class taxi drivers and actually delivering on a working class people pray. >> okay thank you mr. mamdani. mr. lander you have presented your self is a tough talking trump resistor. but as mayor you are expected to deliver including aid for the city. how could you do that if you are always at war with the president? just one minute. >> liquid donald trump at elon musk stole that $80 million of

new york city's bank account i uncovered it, i ring the alarm bell may force the mayor into court to get it back. you stand up and fight for you to go into court when you are in the right one week after he was elected i became the first financial officer anywhere in the country to lay out were all of that federal money comes into our budget with the really concrete plan for how we put money in reserve so we will be able to respond. but look, with all the corruption that's in washington we cannot have corruption here in new york city as well it's not only the enter, lie to congress which is perjury. he also lied to the grieving families whose loved ones he sent into those nursing homes to protect his 5 million-dollar book deal that is corrupt i question that junkyard. so when i am mayor l stand up to donald trump. i will make sure we've got a budget that is ready so when they come for our medicaid visit independent authority ready to keep providing the productive

healthcare housing and education for all but a quick sister, which like to respond? >> yes please. mr. landers is a little loose with the facts. if you are top of the facts on the nursing of these parenting trunks trumps allegation this has been disproven by the federal government from. >> what do you talk about specifically? >> the terms of rates of death and earth nursing homes. number 38 out of 50 only 12 12states had a lower rate of death. which is really something when you consider went first and worse than anyone else. when it comes to corruption he knows corruption because his office approved $500,000 of contracts to organizations associated with his wife. >> okay i would really like to clear. [inaudible] i would like to clear one thing up. you know in their lives.

works a question is whether or not it's political and whether or not your congressional testimony was truthful. now that you have times to reflect re- involved in producing the report that undercounted nursing home death? there's no doubt made ministration produce the report they did not undercounted the events. >> it's very clear that's a trump line because this was during the trump reelection. the new york reports always counted the number of deaths where they occurred in the nursing home or in a hospital. next we have to move on we have to give other people we have a lot more time on other subjects. [inaudible] we acknowledge the deaths? it's very black and white did you like to congress? >> people died he still not answer question regards here's a

chance answer the question as presented mr. cuomo. no, i told congress the truth. no, we do not undercounted any deaths when they are all counted we are number 38 out of 50 which i think it shows compared to what other states went through, we had at first and worse and only 12 states had a lower rate of death. we should really be thinking that women and men who worked and did. [inaudible] if i could follow up if i make were you involved in producing that reports yes or no question. >> i was very aware of the report. [inaudible] more time at the production of the report. okay were going to move out were not getting anywhere. okay. let's move on. mayor adams and governor hoke will negotiate with governor

from former governor, has as well as mayor at what expense would you bring to the table with president trump? >> i need to save the people watching at home who are afraid to send their children to school, to the famines are afraid to show up to court proceedings seeing agent snatched people up doing the right thing, i'm to speak directly to you in this moment you are not hearing that communication. you're not hearing about amir's were to stand up and have a backbone to stand up for our city i am the senate to undocumented immigrants who came here for opportunity. my parent's could take me too school they could take me to the hospital without fear of deportation because they knew the city would have their back. that's a kind of mare i am going to be. one that stands up when necessary. of course were going to work with the president what it is in the best interest of the city but what he has demonstrate of the past six months he's not het interested in helping the city. we have to grow our tax base so we can be independent from the federal government and that's

why have a plan to deliver 1 million homes over the next 10 years that's what free after school for every kid in the city and that's why owen took senate pre-k until 6:00 p.m. >> thank you. >> you talk about fighting president trump. also said in a question you seek partnership with him. how do you envision working together with him? >> we have already seen a very clear blueprint about how to elegantly school president trump we saw in the mexican president how she led on negotiating the tariff scandal with the president. and so i am here to say not only should my administration litigate to protect immigrants, to protect gender from care, but we should be ready to withhold our federal taxes went trump unlawfully takes away funding from the things we need.

we have to play chess and place mark in our taxpayer dollars are our leverage. >> thank you. next question was you. fighting trump has been a key element of your campaign. is there anything trump once that you would be willing to give him in exchange for something the city needs? you have one minute. >> this is why it is so critical to elect a mayor with real axmen experienced notion negotiating, experience and understanding understanding withthe stakes ar. donald trump is coming for new york city. he was to collapse the social safety net and what's take kids off the street he also was to destroy everything we built in america and the city. i know how to fight it because i fought him human he's coming after us divested from private prisons i haven't divested from gun manufacturers he did not slow me down he sped me up.

when you put away i'm building dollars and a rainy day fund bonita mayor who will insist the banks annex controller come to the table and strategize how we have a short-term plan to get the city to the congressional election. no one has more experience in city government than me. >> the question is, a p want something in exchange we give it to him? >> i am not quid pro quo them with president trump by what i am going to do this is my strategy i'm going to organize the same thing that happened during days when ford said to new york we are going to go to the business community per i'm going to go to the congressional leadership schumer and jeffries i'm going to organize the city and the city government to wage a fight in washington to protect the epicenter of the national economy that is new york city precooked thank you very much were going to move on now. we've blasted mr. trump

2016.when you called him the devil. how can you make a deal with him when you're talking about with the devil? >> look i've been fighting trump since long before then since he came down that escalator 10 years ago this month. i do think we democrats have to stop giving trump gifts. like when we let ourselves be defined by a far left when one areado ruth trump is that wn socialist tweets the nypd is a wicked and call suit d fund and dismantle the nypd that's madness is costing us elections for its way trump is done with his share of the nearest city boat and last three elections from 17% to 30%. we have got to move away from the far left in the socialism

sinking a party in a city for. >> a brief response? >> i want to be very clear police have a critical role to play in creating public safety want to speak to those very officers in the rank and file, i hear from them a frustration that where they joined the force to tackle serious crimes we are instead now asking them to play the roles of mental health professionals and social workers. that's why we're putting forward a plan to create a department of committee safety that will tackle gun violence, homelessness, the mental health crisis to break works all right. we did a brief response verdict it's important we have a candidate to my right this obsolete mischaracterizing anything you can check his twitter feed he called it wicked and to d fund and dismantled the nypd it's still up. >> thank you. alright thank you. mr. blake those tweets question who often highlight your pastorals the obama administration and it leadership at the national democrat party

which has since lost the white house is struggling to regroup. how does that make you effective when it comes to negotiate with president trump if you were mayor question or give one minute. >> as it would press on the stage is not a part of a team that's actually defeated donald trump in as a black man who understands that trump goes after black folks just ask the exonerated and like them we will win. i have the experience to make sure we address what's happening in new york city. first and foremost anytime trump and elon try to take her funds we will withhold taxes sending to d.c. specifically working with companies you will not abide by unconstitutional behavior. second we will ban ice at our schools and places of worship it would designate them as safe havens there is no reason at all that ice is going after our immigrants in particular families like mine from jamaica. third, i white house expense of president obama as well as what's happening as a revenant community leader. we need to understand they

represent you. i'm ready from day one from your most powerful campaign supporter asked if you and accenture new yorkers are not a casualty of their war? >> thank you very much. the baddest attorney general new york and the nation has ever seen yet she does endorse me. when the name donald trump comes up the first think the advice i get from the attorney general's when donald trump comes your way it causes problems for new yorkers. sue him for that's exactly what i am doing right now as we speak. we have an executive order in front of us it is illegal. mayor eric adams as its first deputy mayor signed the mayor did not sign for the first

deputy mayor signed it would allow ice to come onto rikers island for donald trump to go into rikers island which has been illegal since year 2014 bui have a cro a temporary restraining order fills our case has merit we have sued him and new york will win out always be a mayor that will stand up for immigrants for donald trump and ice have no place on rikers island for donald trump ice has no place with people taking their legal court no rights. >> thank you per. >> not in my new yorker. >> thank you ms. adams. >> thank you. let's turn to public safety. the top concern for many new yorkers especially underground on the subway so many new yorkers rely on to go to work you are robberies overnight to cops on every train still many new yorkers simply do not feel safe on the subway's route we would like to know what plan each of you have to change that? you have a 38 seconds will change the order and start with you. text thank you, sally, for the

question. right now we want to make sure we are recruiting and retaining the police officers but that's why i'm offering a workforce housing initiative to make sure we help them be able to keep new york city their home. we want to attract them here but what to increase their entry level pay. when to stop investing taxpayer dollars but we have to assess deployment upscale or ems workers to find mental health emergencies precooked thank you. take the train every single day take the five change of this debate on expensing is echoed new yorkers are experiencing things feel different honor subways. people tell you you should not believe what you are experiencing that the numbers are down and you should feel more safe. that's a people tune out of politics here are the facts things and feel the difference here is what i want to do i what police and commission teams 24/7

150 of them throughout the city. i want to ensure everyone feel safe no matter what neighborhood they are in and i want to ensure i do it on my first day. >> thank you. mr. call what your plan to make the subway saver? >> yes part of it is we have to admit we did wrong. the people on this stage almost without exception were almost all defunded the police, dismantled the police, reduce the police by 3000, a billion dollars in overtime and now they're calling for more police but we would not need more police if we did not defund them in the first place. in my first 30 days i will take every homeless person off the train and the subway stations and get them the help they need. we did it before, we will do it again. >> thank you mr. call up of. >> were going to fact check he literally said defund the police and his governor. >> were coming around you it's a third time we will get to this. and her are you saying you didn't say quite a.

>> i never supported defund the police pick which a singer never said defend the police? i use the words i said i don't support you just said everyone else did that but you would not acknowledge. did you say? [inaudible] let us frame a question you. >> i think mr. blake maybe talk about something you said which is those are legitimate schools of thought defund or don't defund. you can give some legitimacy. >> i disagree with defund the police. yes. and i'm still like to respond. >> will be coming around. we are coming around to everybody. >> i am fully supportive of the increased police presence in the mta in fact transit crime is down this year it i almost did not have to say this but the key to reducing crime is fully staffed police that are out

there enforcing the laws. we need to make crime illegal this is not happening down on the subways where they are starting to enforce lower level crimes drinking, smoking, spreading out over the subway cars and police are arresting more it turns out 30% of the people there arrested have criminal records per. >> i'm sorry we do have to move on we are at time. >> in my department of community safety, we are going to put together dedicated teams of mental outreach workers it will be deployed to the top 100 subway stations with the highest level of mental health crises and homelessness. we are going to address this in a manner that goes beyond the same ideas that we are time and time again who brought us to this point. if we care about the police force that we have to listen to police officers. they are leading this force, 200 and them each month when he

asked them why it's because of the forced overtime pay. >> we are out of time thank you. we are out of time. mr. blake? >> the people are not safe for young women, mothers and grandmothers rent that's the greatest threat to public safety new york city. now specifically to your question, i say very specifically we need 1000 mental health professionals on our subways and streets and so therefore you can have a police with body cameras on do precision policing outside. the police will indicate they are not trained on addressing mental health but let's utilize those persons who need the help immediately. if we take those steps we can make it a point to help make sure everyone gets home alive. >> are out i will move on to everybody. i want to give everyone an opportunity respond. mr. blake raise the issue of sexual allegations in your administration. >> people are watching at home have to be incredibly frustrated. they defunded the police they reduce the number of police they

there now sing anymore police. and we need mental health experts to address the homeless and we do that by getting them off the train so we can assess them and get them into mental health. >> would you like to respond to mr. blake? [inaudible] >> andrew cuomo would not. >> would not have a chance every woman watching tonight's, he was just given a chance to actually address the clear claims that were stated and ignored pick okay we do have to move on. we want to hear about. [inaudible] [inaudible] we aren't moving on. we are moving on. mr. stringer please tell us your subway safety plan pick kids comments grown-up time to give me a second mom explain this out to you. were sent $1.3 billion in police

overtime we do have enough police officers we need to hire 3000 more cops but in order to get them we have to go into our committees and get the wonderful diverse citizens to come into the department we also have to make it worthy of doing it and not something i'm going to do. i'm saying this to the crisis we have is twofold. it's not just about policing as about helping the people suffer we have to align policing with the mental health initiative. why andrew cuomo has the nerve to talk about defund when he signed the bill with the loopholes? that is something that's really causing a problem for. >> mr. gerard of time mr. stringer ms. adams required to address the claim everyone calls for defund i have never called for defining the police and i never will treat 2020 on a budget of that city council we were in eighth season of covid. many agencies had to be re- allocated their funding had to be reallocated many agencies not just the new york police but many for the city council our

funding was reduced during that season of covid. my public safety agenda calls for police to be taken out of social work and mental health for our police to be paid with they are worth we have always supported a budget that reinforces the police department. >> are out of time for it mr. lander again the question looking forward, your subway safety plan for i have a dear friend who's middle school daughter takes a train to school was pushed to the ground by homeless person with serious mental illness this is a big deal for all of our families which is why i have to be ready on day one detail clear plan to industry homelessness people with serious mental illness we do not have to be a city where our cycle from subway, district, to jail it's called housing first it will work. i do have to go back though in the prior round the former governor told a light source from twitter about my wife and when i go home tonight and

better to be able to make clear it's one 100% false. >> thank you, thank you. were going to move on. we are moving on. >> thank you. >> please don't talk were going to try to get as much and as we can. don't lie about my wife will be go with the rest of it. >> thank you. we are often worth what it's like to try to bite toothpaste or beauty products at the local drugstore i have to wait to be unlocked. shoplifting is a sad fact of life in the city right now many in law enforcement blame built reform. many shop lives will not be held in jail they get arrested must often receive a ticket to appear in court and they are usually released a seal again. that is how law enforcement describes it again and again. we have a spewed specific questions you are going to have 30 seconds to answer. mr. cuomo we will start with you because you sign the bill on legislation. governor vogel has made some

changes since you did that. you think built reform is working? how would you stop shoplifting and other low level repeat crimes you have 30 seconds for. >> yes. just to go back if mr. landers says his office did not approve 500,000 contracts that his deputy approved affiliate with his wife's organization. >> every word ally for. >> reports to him. >> every word ally and he knows it. >> is easy enough to check. >> mr. cuomo you're using your time you 30 seconds. >> built reform we talked about how terrible rikers island is. and it is. it is a disgrace is still being operated by the city. >> i'm sorry. per person. >> your time is up when i'm sorry i am. mr. myrie you voted for bill reform as well how would you stop shoplifters if you were at the mayor and other low-level crimes taken a toll on her city? question requesting one breaks the law needs to be held

accountable we made changes to the criminal justice loss because things needed to change and here's how i know. i was robbed with my mom in an elevator in the building i grew up in when i was very young. her worldview is informed by that experience. we have to ensure every new yorker feels safe in every neighborhood wherever they are and that is what i am going to do as mayor. and will return the headcount to where it was in 2008 to make sure our new yorkers feel safer. >> thank you the time. you voted for built reform how would you stop shoplifters and other low-level crimes? >> we have a little more than 1000 recidivists in the city of new york. i've been hard at work in the senate already making sure we are working at treatment courts him cases of kleptomania but clearly they're organized rings that need to be taken down by the nypd. i hear to say there's accountability to be had but we

also have to make sure there is a balance with the job opportunities that should open up if we address all the crises we are facing. chris member you voted for the bill thank you. your proposal to roll back built reform we do not want to hire more cops above the current level how would you stop shoplifters and repeat offenders? what is your approach? was i want to sustain the headcount we have in the police department. i want to listen to police officers who are leaving in droves from the department because they are being asked to do the work of mental health professionals and social workers. right now police offers pick up hundreds of phone calls a day that her mental health crises but hundreds of thousands a year that is not the work they signed up to do. when it comes to shoplifting and retail theft, the key here is to listen to workers themselves they have spoken time and time again about the need for increased staffing and or

walgreens and when it comes to organizing we have to ensure the police actually hold them accountable for. >> thank you. mr. blake do you see a need for change to the built reform and how would you and retail theft as mayor? what's absolutely a proudly supported the it in the assembly because my constituent we talked about raise the age and speedy trial. we had to do that we need to make it different and stronger now. to your question that means we have to hold repeat offenders more accountable to be much more attentive to that degree. the broader dynamic, if we held new yorkers make and keep more money in their pocket in the first shoplifting we did have a local median income we have to have guaranteed income if they help people on the front end were not talking about them in the bath. >> thank you very much. >> mr. serna look to the same question you see a need for any further changes to the states and vail law? how to tackle retail theft as mayor retail theft in my own

neighborhood walking in with my kids and seeing the shelves empty and having to push a button, wait 10 minutes for a young staffer whose job is not to be my personal shopper for this is wrong and that's what we need cops on the beat working with the small businesses to root out the people are costly coming back to do this. we also have to make sure that people are doing the stealing have opportunities to get them the housing and the services they need. we cannot walk and chew gum at the same time. >> are out of type i want to use your time yesterday a question you see a need for further changes to the states bailout yes or no? what to think right now with the change a couple of times. let me say when cuomo signed it he did not do the work of the mayor. that's not a yes or no. we are going to move on. we are moving on to ms. adams. >> same question to you do you see any need for changes in the state belt law how do you plan to tackle retail theft as mayor question. >> estate just made some

adjustments and tweaks will see how that goes for it when you take a look at the ringleaders at the higher level are the folks carrying and actually doing the stealing. low-level criminals heart wasting away on rikers island some have committed suicide under this current ministration. what newt need to do his part as public safety i will fill the over 2000 vacancies within the nypd at my first eight months as mayor of this is when you look selectoutfit others are lookingt bringing in thousands and thousands of police officers who have vacancies to fill. this is what the nypd need is better management. >> do you see a need for change of built reform but what would you do with as mayor about the retail theft? >> have a detailed plan to combat root detail that the toothpaste is not always behind lock and key. you can look up on my website to develop it i took lessons from nypd commissioner jessica tisch who i want to keep as commissioner because crime is coming down and accountability accountabilitiesgoing.

it involves giving a panic button essentially to retail stores of the johnson call 911 they can report quickly, investigations can be thorough i'm taking the idea from the conservative manhattan institute that drug treatment courts need to be central in a response. >> thank you. course retail workers safety act with buttons and mental health. >> quick response. okay thank you sally got a quick question. >> yes i'm going to let you respond. >> because mr. landers brought t her up a quick show of hands who wants to keep as police commissioner okay thank you. >> cannot just have not decided jet. you said you cut crime 50%. you and chose to built reform what will you do? >> i do very much believe we need to make substantial changes to bail reform and discovery reform both want what i said earlier that we decriminalized

decriminalize onlow level crimet way out. we need to have more police officers enforcing the law when needed change of legislation such that prosecutors can actually punish repeat offenders. i just talked to a cop and midtown north last week who told me they are down from 300 cops to 120 on them so much of paperwork when they make an arrest the criminals are back out on the street before they finish with the paperwork for quickstart thank you. >> were going to talk about the bikes bicycles in the city deaths have reached recent years with injuries many involving e bikes. just the past hour mayor adams 850 mile-per-hour speed limit on e bikes do you believe this is the right way to enforce safety? what else would you do? ms. adams of 30 seconds. >> a lot of the ebikes riders

are people deliver food to our homes. and they have families as well. i do believe in is to be a closer look, which we are doing and city council as far as regulation is concerned but we have to be careful too. >> regulation with 50 miles per hour? >> is america normally does does not collaborate with city council which had begun that collaboration together we might have come up with a different solution other than 50 miles i believe is a penalty we could have come together and realize something much more reasonable. it's a 15 miles. >> miles per hour. >> thank you. thank you. i think the city banks go 70 miles per hour that seems pretty good to me. it got upstream to the folks causing this they need to be held accountable for the trips are taken where they are making money for the got the dated to keep folks safe. you cannot operate a car dealership without license plates to without people to

drivers licenses. we got to help hold the sellers of moped their motor vehicles need to be treated that way if you're going to sell them it got to have licenses and got to havm licensed by the have to operate safely. ms. ramos? >> what's at the end the criminalization of our delivery workers and bicycle riders a lot of enforcement has changed from civil summonses to criminal tickets not slimming breadcrumbs for ice and leaving many of our committee members vulnerable. that being said it's high time we posted speed limits in our streets designed for that use of bikes and e bikes. the fact is we have to get them off the sidewalks. we have to make sure they are abiding by the rules this is why we need public education in english, in spanish and all the languages or write or speak. >> or is no question things feel different on our streets these categories of vehicles are not

built for our current structure. we have to regulate. we have to hold the companies making money more accountable on this. we also have to ensure we're doing this in collaboration and doing and a smart way the enforcement on this will be what's going through its uneven enforcement in this space that's where they're older adults in the city there free to cross the street. >> thank you very much mr. cuomo? >> this is another example of dysfunctional city management per week past the state law allowing evite this must be regulate by the city all sorts of accident all sorts of warnings the city has done nothing. the spieth has to come down. city bikes voluntarily came down to 70 miles an hour. you have e bikes some doing 25 or 30 miles per hour you have to bring down the speeds but you have to have them registered by the apps they are the ones

making the money. let them pay the ticket too. >> thank you very much. >> this she was quite personal to me because i ride my bike in the city every day in fact i bet i'm the only mayoral candidate in history that rode his bike to the mayoral debate as i did this evening for those he bikes have made things a lot more dangerous not just for pedestrians. since the beginning of my campaign i told her that. i will turn the past couple of months since it started to shrink citations e bikes are behaving themselves a lot more i see a lot fewer blowing through red lights. >> thank you. let's remind you guys are taking this to your offices and homes. >> i find it ridiculous to her and her cuomo talk about how we need to regulate the apps this is very mayoral candidate who has a super pack they received a million dollars from jordache.

how we went to regulate doordash when they are giving you a million dollars to influence her street safety regulations? this economic model does not just incentivize ebikes writers to break safety laws it also requires free. >> think you're doing respond to that? >> yes. i work for the people of the state of new york, the people of the city of new york i don't care who gave me what. i do what is right that is how because you feel compromise you don't feel compromise? i just said the apps should be held responsible they are the ones who have to license the bike they should be responsible for the fees they're the ones making the money. mr. blake? >> i want to make sure we internalize enter cuomo just said i don't care who gave me what. that's on a man who's going to break the corruption in city

hall you need a new vision right here to the question on e bikes one of the reasons we cannot have an increase of people getting tickets it will obsolete lead to the harassment of more communities of colors and immigrants in particular but we definitely focus was helping run speed limits. but also how to reimagine what a city can be we cannot continue to have 2025 city with the 1905 infrastructure we laid out the vision on how to address as well as the new city. what some answer the question yes i think 15 miles an hour is reasonable i think the mayor is right about this. in the time that i have a duty to follow up about doordash. because that million dollar contribution and the contributions of donors are given between $50000 in a million dollars of fundamentally and that is something we spent 20 years never trying to get to

again. you are writing a new book about how to take the merrill one to 23productive brief response mr. cuomo? parks i live within that campaign finance rolled the jump at whatsoever who represent to hear i am the person on this one stager represents the working men and women of new york city. that labor unions have endorsed me over 650,000. >> your campaign-finance board. [inaudible] [inaudible] >> we have to move on. the issue has been spoken too and addressed we have another question for like 30 seconds on this. we've all spent years in politics. what is your biggest regret will go to you mr. blake. >> right now so the campaign-finance board whose they have now admitted in writing for times they make incorrect determinations on matching funds you go to

websites that we challenge that. you regret? asked by regret is i'm trying to have patience with the campaign-finance brick works okay thank you. got your biggest regret in politics? works as a democrat one of my regrets is having trusted that leaders within our own party leaders like andrew cuomo. what we have seen that kind of leadership has delivered us to this point where we are under attack by an affordability crisis on the inside and a trump administration on the outside. democrats are tired of being told by leaders from the past that we should continue to simply wait our turn we should simply trust when we know that is a very leadership that got us to this point. we need to turn the page. >> my biggest regret is i did not see joe biden's decline and call for him to resign after the debate i became one of the loudest voices publicly, nationally calling on him to step aside but impartially by then it was too late and ahead

of donald trump the presidency brick works mr. cuomo your regrets and all the years you spent? the democratic party got to a point we allowed mr. trump to be elected that we have gotten to a point where rhetoric has no connection with reality. where a person who has served in government for several years only passed three bills, believes they have the experience and credentials to run the greatest city on the earth. and the democratic party seems okay with that >> mr. cuomo the question was about your personal regret. >> none. >> are said i regret the state of the democratic party. no personal regrets? note regrets when it comes to cutting a medicaid or healthcare? note regrets when it comes to cutting childcare? no regrets when it comes to slow walking ppe and vaccinations in the sivan of coverage of black and brown committees really no regrets? no regrets?

[inaudible] >> or whatever and to be able to respond. [inaudible] you have a few seconds. i understand. >> that is not accurate medicaid what up under me. i lead the nation on covid. i pushed president trump to give us everything he had. [inaudible] >> no regrets? >> mr. cuomo i am sorry i'm sure people know must be wondering about your answer to this question. we speak to voters throughout the city quite a few of them will say i'm not sure exactly what happened with the sexual harassment cases. we know you say you never sexually harassed anybody you say you are running to restore efficient government and efficient leadership. but in the past your leadership came with what more than one investigation concluded was a toxic work environment.

especially for the women and some of those cases are still ongoing. i went to ask you since were talking about regret, you have a politician some of those women when your government what you say to voters and now looking ahead to your potential what you're dthg differently why should they believe that same situation will happen again? >> let's just make sure we have the facts. a report was in four years ago making certain allegations. i said at the time that it was political and it was false. five district attorney democrat, republican looked at it all across the state. they found obsolete nothing. one case has been resolved. i was dropped from that case.

you are in the governor's manchin $5 million. do you regret the 5 million and will you get back? >> that's not true. i set up every day against president trump for ppe, for masks. i was in the emergency rooms. >> you are doing everything every day.

>> can i go now? >> we have a break we have to take. >> i assure a one hour break. we will continue this online will go to regular programming wanted all we will be right that was mortal. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ , former hedge fund manager sponsored by news for new york. political new york city campaign finance award.

♪♪ >> welcome back to the second hour of the primary debate for new york city mayor joined by my colleague should senior new york editor. we are streaming live on nbc new york. politico.com live on the are going to pick up and get a chance to respond. talk about the policies. >> we led the way under covid. every day i got on that tv

informed new york what was going on and all the facts and i was fighting president trump for the ppe. in the beginning there was no ppe. people were using garbage bags. when the first phase past, we got to the first aid and that's when we were trying to share. >> we are going to continue on. >> i regret not running for mayor in 2021. i had been in the senate for two years and already past a dozen bills. i thought i needed more experience, but it turns out, videos. [laughter] >> mr. lander. [applause] >> i was the champion reducing 8000 homes in my district. i'll be honest, i wish i had

more housing when is it a councilmember because we needed. let's be there, sexually harassed 13 women. forced taxpayers to send $60 million -- absolutely nothing -- >> thank you. >> you can't let him do that. >> the report was done. nothing has come of it. in terms of legal fees, yes, the state pays legal fees. i was sued and controller knows that because he was 15 times in the city pay the bill. he was sued by provider who said he didn't do anything about the safety commission and was sued by people --

[talking over each other] >> every one of those things is false. i have no idea where he got this one. he's lied so many times and takes no responsibility for. >> we are going to move on. your biggest regret. >> my biggest regret is eric adams would be mayor for all new yorkers. budget cuts from this, they are, i've had to save as our brace and cultural institutions because the mayor of the city of new york thought it was his job to cut all of those and slice and dice the livelihoods of our children and cultural institutions and our seniors through their process services as well. i had to be the champion to make sure all of those services would make sure the people of the city were safe. >> i've thought about this throughout my career and i would

say the biggest regret from a policy perspective was when my mom died of covid for her time. she was a great trailblazer, first woman elected to counsel back in the day. a real fighter but she lost the fight with covid. i really wished before i left the office that like with so many other issues, i was able to build a covid recovery place. >> we will continue. >> thank you. a very important issue for my viewers and talking about immigration so as we know, president trump abolish sanctuary city like new york the administration applying pressure to cooperation on deportation show we are going to give you a couple of scenarios the hypothetical areas.

notifier city run hospitals, they must stop offering medical care to undocumented patients of the federal government will withhold millions of funding. >> i gone through this with mr. trump before. >> what would you do now? >> you cannot given to mr. trump and his demands. you cannot. >> you say he's cutting funding. >> you can't. you will never end. if you given to him, he's a bully, i know him well. given to him today, you will be giving him your lunch money the rest of your life. you have to fight him in the way you fight him is not by suing him. to him, but he gets two times before he gets out of bed in the

morning. we need a national coalition we can put together like-minded states and cities that would oppose these actions and then we will have to eventually beat him politically in congress but you cannot given to his demands. >> thank you. >> donald trump throws 50 tweets out there today and most of the time we just ignore him. if he actually does act illegally to blackmail us, you have to restore that funding. i am appalled by what trump is doing to terrorize immigrant communities demonize immigrants in general and i will fight him tooth and nail. >> our city is under attack by an authoritarian trump administration and under attack

now echoed by trump allies here in new york city and i say that as someone would be the first immigrant mayor who just yesterday, sitting elected official deported and it's not an intellectual exercise we deserve to have a mayor not funded by the same billionaires who put donald trump in d.c., a mayor who will actually fight back in the way we fight back is in short local institutions continue to provide services to each and every new yorker. >> how can you protect them? >> the donald trump administration will use the fact that they found seven of our state budget as leverage over us to give up whichever category of new yorkers they are pursuing. ultimately what we need to do is tell those institutions we will provide them the funding and we will get the funding by taxing the 1% of the wealthiest corporations here in new york city. >> thank you i will remind you the question, they are not going

to care about the immigrants. >> i was born with a heart murmur and my mom watching right now, expand the conversation to what's happening. we create protections by designating hospitals and schools and community centers places of worship where ice is not permitted to enter unless there's a judicial warrant for expand the conversation and make clear, he will remain a sanctuary city and make sure we are protected. but also, how do we have the rhetoric we will not tolerate rhetoric in the same way we will not tolerate anti-semitic or islamic phobia or anti- black or anti- latino rhetoric. at the same time we have to protect nonprofits helping our immigrants which is why i said

he must grant early helping our immigrants. >> thank you. >> we make it clear, it does not stop with donald trump and what i would propose would allow us to build back to health services, the federal government could take from us financially and why we need a mayor who knows it because that is the job of mayor, understanding how we actually get through the trump era but it doesn't stop there. it's always been about fighting and trump one and we won a lot of post battles. we never back down and we need to work with our washington partners get ready for the fight with the mayor who brings confidence and proven ability to but the economics of this crisis. this is not a time for training wills or somebody who's never out to be mayor of new york.

>> let's say you learned ice planning to kick eyes outside of your hospital. would you want them and how would you handle the situation? >> what i'm already doing but the city council, except the leadership to do this. i have a target on me because i refuse to invoke sanctuary laws and refuse to do this. my mission is and will be to protect the immigrants of the city of new york. new york is a city made up of immigrants so it is our response ability to make sure all new yorkers, older new yorkers and new new yorkers as mayor, i will not kowtow to donald trump. >> would you want them? >> i will use my pulpit as i am doing on a daily basis. the work i am currently doing i will expand as mayor of the city

of new york. donald trump will know new york will be made a sanctuary city regardless of his chaos. we will stand because we are city in the nation and we will have that model for cities in this country take a look. >> 40% of 8 million new yorkers 50% live in status. i was proud be a cosponsor of century city laws. three specific things i would do. i just mayor, every employee needs to understand century city laws and a detailed plan to make sure social workers and receptionists and shoulder security guards know the century city laws we have the network to get the nation out and absolutely one people.

an independent health authority in all city medicaid money and have care so as not just health and hospitals are qualified health centers as well. >> thank you very much. [inaudible] we have to keep ice out of our hospitals and schools and houses of worship, out of any public institution and limit cooperation of ice and nypd when it comes to 90 plus charges under the current sanctuary city law. these are very serious charges. with so many lawyers immigrants have lawyers and immigrants do what they came there to do -- work.

it's mike responsibly is mayor of the city of new york to create entry points into the economies of they can take busy and provide for themselves and their family and all of the fabric of the city in this country which cannot function, and the future will be brighter without our immigrant family. >> will you be using taxpayer money for that? mimic this is making sure we are expanding action nyc and our cooperation with faith-based cooperation are make sure we are on the road. >> i grew up severe asthma in both of my parents would take me to the city hospital and i had an asthma attack. they knew the city had their back. not only will i warn but i will assure them we have their back

right now. you cannot be political. welcome progressives set up for our laws because he understood what the community meant to our city. i plan to do the same. this isn't the time for half measures to say maybe under this circumstances or that circumstance. we have to stand up there snatching people out of our houses and schools. we cannot stand for that. i will hire 50 modifiers of what the fence. paul utilizes amendment in short we are not immigration policy. we have to stand up and that's what i will be doing. >> let's move on to another important topic. the city spends more tax dollars on public schools and anything else but after shelling out 40000 a year a student, only about half of new york city kids can read or do math at grade

level. bottom line, what you see is the top reason for this $41 billion a year investment and how would you turn it around? 30 seconds to answer. >> we have to address literacy so teachers and educators and families are able to make sure we address this issue. it also means we have to be clear against any and like blackness schools. many may not realize andrew cuomo said no candidate drive and election. clearly barack obama was there. it is not just making sure -- >> before move on, would you like to respond to that? >> it's ridiculous so no. >> is it an accurate you said in

2008. >> he said he is a liar -- i never said that. >> i'm not hearing an answer. >> in 2008 i never -- >> we have to move on. you can have 45 seconds to answer and respond to address this question, barack obama and the president of our country. we had a candidate here allergic to any accountability he can't even admit he said this. as it pertains to public education 500,000 children are

going to the ongoing at night. we need to have a city for our children to not only have food. >> your time -- we want to know a solution to the problem and that is the heart of this question. >> exhibit i have the government spends too much. our kids are reading below mississippi. if you are a business person, it's best management. charter schools for more than 20 years, and 15% of our schools are held accountable not

surprisingly, they are the best public schools delivering for kids. >> we've established that there is a problem, we are looking for solutions. >> obama is evil and a liar you are said. >> we are here -- [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> we are going to move on. >> race education to the highest level in the united states. i understand about we need to reform the education system based on hundreds of millions of dollars. we don't know.

i want a real analysis of the curriculum. we need more paraprofessionals in those goals, one out of eight children are homeless. it's too much. paraprofessionals -- >> i wouldn't be standing of us stage if not for our city public schools. i've made my way to cornell law school because there were teachers every single day of the best foot forward so i could be on the path to success but also weird to think about what's happening at the school. we learning loss over covid-19 and i want to provide universal school to make up for that earnings loss. i wouldn't be here today but didn't have an afterschool program that tommy karate -- >> thank you. >> i want to give it to every kid. >> now i have to shout out the

academy of american studies. i wouldn't be here without them and my children wouldn't be where they are if it wasn't for ps is denied. it's true that our children suffered lapses in developmental and social skills of the pandemic. i've seen it so i want to make sure we are delivering a teachers center so teachers have more support and more time providing strict 75 schools but the funding they deserve. >> we are looking for solution oriented answers. >> our kids 3k to 12 a detailed plan, i'm the only candidate in the race with a detailed plan. measure what matters in recruit,

retain teachers, including teachers center in every school in the growth we've seen in mental health crisis and homelessness chronic absenteeism making every school community school. >> prior to becoming an elected official i was the education chair for my local community board education and it's always been a priority for me and always will be. we raised four children in the public school system so the highest budget of all the agencies. what i would do is redeploy resources. i seen speaker, how difficult it is to live through this, mayor araujo full view the bureaucracy.

>> the challenge is covered kids is really real. there's a lot of kids who need help. they need extra tutoring and we are not providing that this budget, i know that because i audit the department of education more than any in history. missing computers and missing ipads at the height of covid. here's what we have to do, childcare. pre-k. afterschool program because of tutoring and giving kids who don't have parental resources the help they need, it doesn't matter -- it matters how you finish. >> we call the debate the quick questions looking for fast answers. we will go down the line. who's the most effective democrat in the country? >> that's not eric adams. [laughter] i would say right now --

[inaudible] >> itself because i defeated donald trump. >> my old friend corey booker after his 24 hour -- >> thank you. >> hakeem jeffries. >> andrea stewart cousins. >> maryland governor. >> boston mayor michelle wu. >> the next speaker hakeem jeffries. >> primary voters will rank you one through five. assuming you drink yourself number one, who on the state would you rank number two? >> i will leave it to the voters. >> i haven't decided on a number two. no disrespect, but all of these

are dangerous. >> anybody but paul. i'll tell my voters -- >> andrew cuomo. >> we are not supposed to make news with these debates, right? [laughter] my second choice would based on who i think. >> we will not be breaking news. >> andrew cuomo has shown me many times, he should not be anywhere on your ballot. >> i think this debate is really good for about an a better idea. i'm hoping to have a better idea by the end of the night. >> stay tuned. >> the last one, four years ago in the race for mayor, who did you rank first in your ballot

the democratic primary? >> i concurred with my wife and we said number one. >> i cochaired a campaign. >> i will. >> garcia. >> eric adams. >> miles wiley. >> mile wiley crescent garcia to. >> my biggest regret was voting for eric adams. i was a close second. >> any of you. [laughter] >> we are going to move on. you've all made housing a top priority in your pain and you do all know, our vacancy rate of

1.4%. he will have one minute to answer the question. >> about an hour ago unleashed the private sector. we have the highest rents in the country to bring them down. we can do this in only three years. zoning restrictions and city departments to streamline the process and overall just beat up the process. it taken four years to build when it should take only two. my plan is basically the opposite, affordable housing, which the city, who seen the city is known for the operating

housing. $70 billion of that and looking like california's real project. >> we are out of time. how would you try to resolve the housing crisis? >> housing, i served as secretary and build housing across hundreds of thousands. we need to blow up hpd and the city council is a bottleneck. we have to use faith-based -- city land i know how to build in the subway. i know how to get things done and that's what this is all about. not plans, plans, plans but get something done. >> if you would like to briefly respond to the. >> i would and the former governor's response shows how

disconnected he is to the work of the city unlike myself currently still in city government. the only person on the stage that has experienced of doing the work. this becomes under my leadership right now has already lost 120,000 units of housing for the people of the city of new york to the city council is not bottlenecking. maybe ten or 20 years ago when you were governor, that was happening but we have a brand-new culture or we are working for the people. >> very briefly. >> the mayor has an interesting proposal. expediting the approval methods. >> your top solution to the housing crisis. >> i wrote a rent-stabilized apartment. my mom and parents were able to find the only affordable place to raise me and to be honest,

stage right now that opportunity is putting the way for too many new yorkers. my wife and i live in the same neighborhood and cost a million dollars. who has $1 million the people on the stage do but i don't have it and i know watching at home don't have any the. unclear about what my plan is to drive down housing. 1 million homes over the next ten years. we actually do this with leadership. the leaders of the past will have the opportunity to do this only gave us city more expensive than it was ten years ago, and 230 to 6:30 p.m. we can have families here and keep them here. funerals offer care for every family. >> what is your price tag?

>> it is not required to raise taxes to reduce the private market. >> tax reform at the crux of affordable housing crisis. i want to make sure we are helping homeowners and landlords bring down the cost. water has skyrocketed under the current administration and rent-stabilized tenant, i know how tough it is to keep up with, rent is too high and wages are too low i want to make sure the 5000 apartments on to make sure they are prepared to begin to been to that 200,000 new yorker waiting list so we can attract city's new. we need for nurses and teachers and doctors and police and

firefighters go home on the opportunities. >> everyone on the stage talked about portable housing and spent three decades delivering it. the locks and affordable homes and i was champion for the development, 8000 new units and 3000 genuinely affordable say 35000 units, a rent-stabilized housing in price signatures so i will bring the fair housing emergency on day one. a plan to build 500,000 homes over the next ten years including 50000 in the neighborhood of the city, golf courses.

we need the pathway to homeownership housing and laid out a detailed plan will affect the experience and i can deliver. >> the housing the department in housing authority. >> already doing the work. i'm currently doing it so i've already delivered thousands of affordable units to the city of new york. the largest privately developed structure coming up right now, unheard of. we can look at two weeks ago and it will create 80000 brand-new. >> we have to move on.

>> talk about your housing and how you received enough the housing crisis is way to real. they didn't do the minimum, they took the maximum and right now all we do is help developers close and gives us on affordable housing. my plan is to make affordable housing we need to get the land organizations we are in the game. don't believe it. believe what we can do in the next two years, that's the first step. we have to recognize who can best do this and that is one of

two, hours worked for eight years and affordable housing. >> when we talk about housing crisis and owners to pay rent and this is not a report for me, this is reality so how do we fix the crisis next local median income. we need to and credit scores and increase income limit on housing applications, especially on new yorkers. with got to go a step further. for those who have not had heat and hot water, they need to go to jail because they are not being held accountable so when

we talk about the actual plan the work and home vision because we want to make sure you can afford the home, you deserve. >> very quick, who would go to jail? >> the individuals working at night, just part of what's been unveiled and unrecovered and not actually fix was happening. >> i will freeze your rent and i will is you have a median household income of 60000, and increased by 12%. this will bring nearly $7 billion to your pocket and back into the pocket of our local economy. this is what we will do immediately even though there are those like andrew cuomo, who would tell you it's unrealistic

and we are going to build 200,000 truly affordable homes but the median household income of 70000 while taking on landlords of the real estate andrew cuomo's campaign because ultimately every single person, including the landlord violated housing 800 billing dollars. >> very good at videos but not reality the daily news said his plan to finance his proposal violates the constitution of the city of new york and would

double the state taxes and there's no way the state will have a tax statewide. >> for the governors thinking about is considered unrealistic, but he wants to give a tax break, totally feasible, but this would mean $30 billion budget so we can create truly affordable housing. >> the trump administration secretary of the limitation on israel with deliberate jewish students in the only immoral. what is your reaction?

>> the rhetoric about israel and put that aside and is just another overreach and his literally attacking the foundation of democracy. >> the failure of columbia to act quickly and they are in

college right now i'm even more appalled by the trump administration protecting. >> yet another example of one day shown pursue every university lines the pockets. we need to have a mayor who will actually stand up to donald trump. someone and the words, the donors will bring in second place. >> 30 seconds. >> all have to come back home and that's the clear

anti-semitism and what happened at the same time and focus on rustling and one reason i'm running this race and we have to make sure you're not allowing overreach and hold the taxes. >> it's no question anti-jewish status there will. this goes against everything american should the discrimination and fully fund the civil rights division and

programs that go along with people to work together. >> deliver the difference. >> all new yorker should stay safe no matter who they are. $18 million to combat anti-semitism in new york city is mayor and continue to combat anti-semitism. we have got to come against us administration students across the country. i will continue to stand up against donald trump thank you. >> this is a frightening time for juice and as personal after

the. i've got a read detailed plan but donald trump anti-semitism all the time, this is nothing to do with all this credit and destroying credit. >> this man is no educator and trump has no interest in funding our education, trying to make our education less accessible to students. i do wish columbia university, herbert house, we have to stand up to trump and be willing to fight back to sue and i will make sure we are keeping our jewish students state and muslim

students safe and we are fighting the country at every turn. there's no room for skyrocketing anti-semitism we are seeing and xenophobia. >> there has been a clear and unequivocal line of anti-semitism in the city and across the country. we have to be just as clear and calling out and rooting at out wherever it reasserts its ugly head. new york city. they make our city for this. kindergarten through eighth grade to pull their, that's part of what makes our city. this is a shameful unconstitutional overreach by the trump administration for what they've done across our city and country. >> reverted to stay with this question. >> permanent u.s. residents pro-

palestinian. the trump administration wants to support accusing him of the terrorist group jewish students elected on campus. he was arrested and detained and not formally charged for the crime and he says he's done nothing wrong. do you believe he should be deported? >> he should be set free at home with his wife and their young child in the fact that he is still in louisiana is an abomination and an attack on our first amendment and it's clear another example of donald trump organizing the real issue of anti-semitism palestinian new yorkers and not even tell us the crime he's been charged with. >> i can't speak without all the facts. another face the trump administration overreach the

don't think the trump of nutrition can do that and therefore they should be separate. >> this is a continuation of trump to big way deep due process and he should be released immediately. >> you should be immediately separate. >> we have due process in our constitution for every person. he is no exception, he longs home with his family, just like so many others unlawfully abducted by ice. >> he should be home with us family and social dylan

aggressive. new york city has a back. >> khalil should be released immediately. there is no process in donald trump's america and that's why we have to put together and fight this chaotic administration and should not be allowed to harm more individuals who have committed no crime and the should not be accepted for any american. >> jewish-american provides, remember the holocaust. i will say man off the streets without any charges or rationale is a direct qualified moment for our constitution. donald trump should be ashamed of himself.

>> should be home with his family. extended up on this, the appreciation and understanding any of our community should not believe a convicted felon president will ever on the constitution and the reason we have to make sure we protect our immigrants can have more lawyers at hearings should actually know where individuals are so they have a chance to fight for their own justice. >> we are moving on to a subject none of you are discussing much of the campaign trail but it could reshape the city in the next two years. a rapid advance of artificial intelligence. it could eliminate thousands of jobs. the mayor will have some opportunity to replace them city workers with a.i. technology and save hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars. a.i. will be on the tape when

contracts expire so here's the question, is there an area where you would consider replacing city workers with a.i. if it saves tax dollars and what you offer protection to city workers? 30 seconds to answer. >> i think andrew cuomo would tell you, he's already replaced the campaign worker who has written his housing policy with a.i., he had a written with chatgpt. i'm proud to be endorsed by the labor union representing the layer largest number and i'm proud because my approach to artificial intelligence is one where we can find efficiencies, consultants, we are within the city but we are not going to use this language of artificial intelligence to discuss further layoffs of city workers. >> time. thank you. >> a.i. will be a home run for the city because we are second

and only to silicon valley. the east coast where i am from whatever we might lose in some we will gain if we are smart we roll out the carpet because we have the knowledge to attract entrepreneurial witnesses, but we got to stop shooting ourselves in the foot with left-wing's and we can use a.i. to bring our meeting online. >> 30 seconds. >> 650 working men and women and i'm proud of it. a.i. is undeniable. a tremendous opportunity for economic development here in new york, bringing a.i. to new york and businesses here.

you hear a lot of four letter words here, you're free, taxes, you don't hear jobs. we want to reorganize -- a.i. can help, but we want to protect jobs. >> thirty seconds. >> , part son special education in the box for 42 years, i would not be who i am without what he fought for. i believe we have so many city workers doing their best to serve the city we have thousands of vacancies into the workforce now so i want to hire more workers. of course a.i. will have a role to play going forward. we all have to play a role in ensuring piston industry that grows in our city. one way, we will -- thank you. >> to protect our artists and actors image and likeness from a.i.'s use studio and that's

what i want to do, but the power in our workers hands and help us transition into the use of artificial intelligence. we have to make sure workers have a say as you make the transition especially when i want to transition them repurposed for mental health capacity for we have deep shortages. >> to make more jobs and save us money, plaster, we paid two billing dollars in learning and a.i. and we can produce that. enable residents and vendors that come into the units and they are not doing that right now. much of our use of our taxpayer dollars to get the work done.

>> i have 15 seconds. >> i got one more idea for the next one connect sorry about that. >> i'm not a career politician's one of the benefit of technology side of the benefits of a.i., i think it's something we need to embrace that said, should not balance a.i. for our workers can do a great job and are doing such a great job here. we should embrace it but also technology comes a job, protect our workers and i think a.i. can

have a benefit of the city workforce. imagine getting into the tech economy for students. obviously, as mayor, you have to worry about the abuses and i will do that and i believe we can manage it. >> our campaign team the epitome of a.i.. the appreciation of groups so it can be intentional a.i. to be used for good. also, we need technology for good. you can track the flight you cannot try clothing so we have to find better ways and you can do that and equally create jobs, reducing relation.

>> we have a few short questions just to get a glimpse of her thinking of the parts that are relevant to new yorkers. how much do you pay each month in rent or mortgage? >> our home is paid, i'm a homeowner. >> we have a mortgage home with one rental unit in the total mortgages 3300. >> we rent and pay 2500 a month. >> i grew up in this house, 1500. >> 7800. >> i own and pay about 5000 a month. >> $300 for one butter. >> 1800. >> getting ripped off, $6400.

>> traffic around manhattan this debate, should helicopter traffic limited. >> yes. >> absolutely. >> we should ban all nonessential helicopters. >> i agree. >> limited, yes. >> yes and a cosponsored to that effect. >> chop chop. >> yes. >> we've already passed a bill. >> the first four consider the forward to go first? >> i would visit the holy land. >> what trump is doing to

canada, there's a lot of opportunity. >> i would love to meet claudia probably columbia to my parents homeland. >> i'm a caribbean immigrant, i like to go to the caribbean. >> given the hostility and anti-semitism new york. >> i would make my fourth trip to israel and our greatest allies on the front lines of the global war on terror. >> new york city, my plans are to address new yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that. >> would you go to israel as mayor? i'll be standing up new yorkers in their synagogues and temples their homes or subway platforms because ultimately we need to focus on delivering -- it just

yes or no, do you believe in the jewish state of israel? >> i believe they have a right to exist. equal rights. >> the answer is no. ... it would be a great trip. my goal would be to take my first trip to israel. my wife's look is in this area would mean a lot to my family could coincide with my young son miles permits up to expect about a minute left what your favorite go to pizza spot? is a caramel start with the

products gabby's and queens of pickwick. >> louise on baxter avenue. >> mr. lanning? rex ms. adam. >> queens boulevard. >> mr. stringer? ask the kids a choice, joseph. chris vinnie's grand concourse. >> a group in morningside heights have to say that. simon staten island broke or cook it real quickly thumbs up thumbs down. nixon firing their head coach ms. adams? thumbs down. thumbs down, thumbs down, thumbs down thumbs up. cox our goal is to win the final. >> thank you all for a spirited debate. it's all the time we have we think the candidate's performance of eating tonight we think that new york city campaign board urge you to check out their website. it has information on the

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