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>>okay, can you find that and highlight that? >>ya. >>30 seconds. >>30 seconds. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] welcome to the "the young turks." democrats have been picking up on what we've been saying for a week. mitt romney is hiding something onon the cayman islands. >> why does an america businessman need a swiss bank account. >> cenk: i don't think a single person should give mitt romney a vote until he explains what he's hiding. that's exactly right. but the surprising news is democrats are actuallily actually on the attack, and it's working. i'll tell you all about that a and how mitt romney went to the hamptons to raise money from rich folks. we have that as well. then the governor of florida looks like he's covering up a deadly outbreak of tuberculosis.
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>> the investigation of a new health department investigation. >> cenk: the funniest, shoe-throwing, the israeli spy accusation. but we've got one here at home as well. >> cenk: that was a stand your ground case. i don't know if it was appropriate that every stood their ground and kept throwing their punches. we'll bring you that and tell you who was right and who was wrong. what time is it? yeah, it's go time. >> cenk: i've been saying it over and over again, i got to tell you, it's really effective. and president obama took the
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fight to the republicans again today. he had an event at the white house where he used the bully pulpit and made his case for saying hey you know what, let's keep the tax cuts for the middle class but we can't afford to keep them for the rich. he did it in a way that was really convincing. let me show you the first a part here. >> obama: cut middle class taxes every year that i've been president. by $3,600. i just believe anyone making over $250,000 a year should go back to the income tax rates we were paying under bill clinton. back when our economy created nearly 23 million new jobs, the ggest budgets sururususn sty, and pnty of mimiioioirir t tboot. >> cenk: look, let's break this down. because finally the democrats are making their case. they're saying things that seem obvious to us, but unfortunately the american people have not heard enough.
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number one hey remember when we had higher taxes under clinton for the rich? it work! we created 23 million jobs. remember when we lowered taxes for the rich under bush in the last ten years it did not work! do you know this is 1950, the 35% tax rate that we have now for the top bracket is the least effective. it means that it created the least amount of gdp and the least amount of jobs. it's the only tax rate where we've had negative job growth. where we lost jobs. it didn't help the middle class. it hurt the middle class. so the fact that president obama is laying that case out today is excellent. by the way also the optics around is are pretty good. he has got a lot of people around him. you couldn't see the whole picture, there are men and women. they strategically surrounded
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him with all the women for women voters. hey, women voters. that's good thinking, and that's good politics. he's right on the substance. watch for more. >> obama: many members of the other party believe that prosperity comes from the top down. if we spend trillions more on tax cuts for the wealthyiest americans that that will some how unleash jobs on economic growth. i disagree. folks who create most new jobs in america are america's small business owners. i've cut tax force america's small business owners 18 times. the proposal i make today would extend these tax cuts for 97% of all small business owners in america. this is not about taxing job creators. this is about helping job creators. >> cenk: there you go, make your case. look, did i cut tax yes. that's a fact. he repeated that again.
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he said, apparently some people are saying things that are different. that's what you got to do. you got to fight back and repeat it and challenge the press to find out what the real facts are. don't repeat their lies. did i cut tax for small business? yes, i did, 18 different times. did i give a tax breaks for 98% of americans. yes. did i give a tax break for 97% of small businesses? yes. are there claims that they're helping job creators nonsense? yes. i don't know what happened here, all of a sudden democrats have found out ho to speak to the american people and make their own case. and then his last point here, i loved. watch. >> obama: we all say that we agree we should extend the tax cuts for 98% of the american people. everybody says that. the republicans say they don't want to raise taxes on the middle class. i don't want to raise taxes on the middle class. we should all agree fix the tax
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cuts on the middle class. let's agree to do what we agree on. >> cenk: there you go. how is that for framing? the american people love it when we agree. great, we agree on this. let's give the american people tax cuts. let's not hold them hostage just because you are not getting your tax cuts for the rich. he's right. let me show you one of many polls on this issue. when you ask are the richest americans spending too much or too little? 62% say the upper incomes is paying too little. it's crushing the 25% of the fair share. and 10% say too much. i love it. why this is so important using the bully pulpit and using it effectively, when you ask people another question, do you like the republican tax plan better or the democrat tax plan better. they get it wrong. here's what they say on 34% to 32% basis.
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i say they got it wrong why? because they disagree with me? no. when you ask them the specifics they actually like the democratic better, yes they want to raise tax on the rich and cut taxes for the middle class. that's the democratic plan. but since the republicans do such a better job of messaging and since they have more money to spend in ads, they trick the american people into thinking that they like the republican plan when they don't! they hate the republican plan! that's why the president the most powerful person in the country, the guy who can make the clearest case has to go out there and pound that message away. that's why today was so important. now speaking of democrats attacking, they realized, hey you know what, hiding this whole thing about hiding your money in the cayman islands, bermuda and the swiss bank accounts, cenk may have been on something here. that may be something egregious. we've been talking about that,
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and then all of a sudden on all the talk shows they're packing in on in issue. watch. >> do you think mitt romney is guilty of some kind of felony here? >> what i'm suggesting is nobody has any idea because the only person with a tax returns is mitt romney. release the tax returns. put all this to rest. >> mitt romney has failed to make an economic disclosure that every president and candidate for president has made in the last 36 years. he is the first and only candidate for president of the united states with a swiss bank account, with tax shelters, with tax avoidance schemes that involve so many foreign countries. you either get a swiss bank account to conceal what you're doing, or you believe the swiss franc is stronger than the american dollar. >> cenk: exactly. what is a person running for president of the united states of america doing with money outside of the country? that's outrageous. what are we, a third world country where the guy running zimbabwe thinks, i got to get my
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money out of here. he has got to explain this. the funny thing is his dad set the standard. when he was running for president he said you got to release 12 years of your tax returns. otherwise you could do tricky maneuvers releasing one year and deceive people. that's what mitt romney did. he released 2010. and 2012 estimate. he was asked about in one of the debates this primary season, and get a load of the greasy answer that he gave. >> one year could be a fluke perhaps done for show. when will you release yours. will you follow your father's example? >> maybe. i don't know how many years i'll release. i'll look at what our documents are. [ heckling ] >> and i'll release multiple years, i don't know how many years, but i'd be happy to do that. >> cenk: even the republicans crowd caught on, wait a minute. that wasn't funny. what do you mean maybe you'll
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release him. they started booing him. mitt, you have to release your tax returns. we have to know whether you're a crook or not. you tell us, oh, no, trust me. i'm not doing anything illegal in switzerland cayman or bermuda where i hide all my money. well i don't believe you. we have a well-known history of being a liar almost a pathological liar in the way you've run your political career. when you say trust me, the ney i have in swiwierernd cayman i ianan and bermuda i don't trust you. hand over your tax documents so we can see for ourselves. you're not running for local dog catcher. you're running for president of the united states of america. it's time for to you release your tax returns so we see what you're hiding and what you don't want the american people to find out. all right, when we come back who does mitt romney actually serve? well, the incredible ply rich people in the hamptons where he
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went to do fundraising. the stories from this and how disdainful those people are of you is amazing. we'll do that when we come back. >> romney's secret service detail can be seen crisscrossing in the hamptons through the suburbans. donors line up to gain access to these closed events. they wererererererererererererererererererer >>we talk a lot about the influence of money in politics. it is the defining issue of this era. the candidate with the most money, does win. this is a national crisis.
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>>(narrator) the sheriff of wall street. >>the leadership of high finance just doesn't get it. >>(narrator) the former governor of new york, eliot spitzer is on current tv.
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>>somebody somewhere can listen, record, track, gather this data. >>arrangements were made. >>(narrator) independent unflinching. >>there is a wild west quality to it that permits them to do whatever they wish. >>(narrator) and above all politically direct. >>facts are stubborn things. >> cenk: we're back on "the young turks." the rest of the media reports the fundraising per month without noting that this is basically legalized bribery. and they make it seem like, hey you know what, this is a contest, and we're going to see who is going to win this contest. and this month mitt romney won. president obama raised $71 million. that's really, really good. best so far of his campaign. well not good enough because mitt romney raised 10 million dollars. in just june.
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okay? so the rest of the media declares, well, mitt romney has won. but what has he won in the month of june? he has won the contest for who can get bribed more efficiently and thoroughly. i don't think that's something to celebrate. i think that shows you how broken our system it. when you look at mitt romney, he says wait a minute, you have to be fair to us. 94% of your donors are 250 draws or less. but the rest is where the real money comes from. they raised $22 million from the small donors and $83.8 million from the large donors. 80% of the money comes from the large donors. the ones who expect something in return. that's how this works. that's why we call it bribery. and speaking of which mitt romney was in the hamptons over the weekend. he went to three different
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fundraisers, including one at david koch's house and on average $50,000 a plate. the koch was more expensive. you got suckered if you went to that one and paid $75,000. you would have had the same access to the otherwise ones that were cheaper. he raised $3 million in one day. now, as all these people were pouring in their ferraris literally, range rovers, golden mercedes is described in one of the articles at these fundraisers, they also sometimes talk to the press and told us what they think of all the money going into the system, they're in favor of it etc. but there were also below testers. first let's show you the protesters. >> protesters in the process betty, romney, his secret service detail could be seen crisscrossing the hamptons in their suburbans their fleet the sursuburbans.
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they were met by protesters at several of these events. many said they were part of the occupy wall street movement. >> cenk: i loved the fake dog on the roof to make fun of him. they could not get anywhere near the events, trying to go to the beach where the yachts had docked. i'm not kidding. and now going to the l.a. times saying, i don't think the common person is getting it, my coming kid, the baby-sitters, the nails ladies, everybody who has got the tort vote, they don't understand what is going on. if you're lower income, one you're not as educated. two, they don't understand how it works. they don't understand how the system works. they don't understand the impact. look at that disdain dripping from her mouth. oh you lower class people, you obviously don't know the same things we know. if you knew it, then you would
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understand why we have to bribe mitt romney to our advantage--oops, did i say our advantage. i mean your advantage. nails ladies, i know you have lower education but us rich people in the hamptons have to rule this country. one of the ladies bragged to one of the reporters hey, do you know how generous we are? she said, look, my husband, who by the way had supported obama last time around. he said, oh, he bit the hand that fed him. how dare you not to be as good to the rich as mitt romney. we paid for something and we wanted a return on that investment. they flipped over to mitt romney. she goes on to tell the reporter, tell him who is staying on our yacht. i thought what, are they going to say they've got big brother big stir program, they're helping people on their yacht? no, she was bragging there was an incredibly rich person from
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hollywood who could not get a place at the in the hamptons. come on, this is grotesque. and the band plays on as if there is nothing wrong in our government. they're buying our government as we watch! all right. listen, this is obviously an epic problem. what kind of political correspondent would i bring in to discuss such an epic problem? [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: right, i would bring in epics politics man, michael shure. >> your hamptons accent is horrible. that's long island suffolk county. >> cenk: yeah, i hear you. we'll break it down to see who is winning and losing this fight
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because it will determine our next president as much to me its sickening in how we determine a president. >> from new hamp to the country house to the hamptons, now in aspen. that's how we're determining the president. >> cenk: absolutely. they don't have time sometimes to go to wisconsin or they don't have time for this or that, but they always have time for the hamptons. >> and aspen. >> cenk: the other thing that happened today, karl rove announcing a $25 million ad campaign. this is what the money buys you. let's take a look at one of their ad. >> announcer: miracle miracle has a lot of bad excuses for the economy. >> things we could not control. >> you go to the airport, a and you're using a kiosk. >> we have been lazy over the last couple of decades. >> announcer: but obama never blames washington's skyrocketing debt. >> cenk: is that going to work?
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has president obama done a good job framing mitt romney. >> or too much too early. this is a very early stage in the campaign, the kind of thing you put into people's minds later on in the campaign. so yeah to that extent i don't think it's going to work right now. you have to remember there are going to be things happening in this campaign. romney is going to be naming the vice presidential nominee which will take all the issues off of the headlines. they have so much money. they're spending it on this now-- >> cenk: i disagree with you. i think they're too late. i think president obama has done a terrific job framing the debate. he's up by two in the swing states. that doesn't mean much. but when they ask people, hey did you change your mind. of those 7 percent say they're now voting for obama because they see the ads on romney, and they don't like what they're saying. i think romney is coming in to late. >> i think you're right but i think we can be both be right.
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to be allowing them be framing you, that doesn't happen to the republicans. >> cenk: that what i've been talking about the whole show. the democrats are on the attack, and now romney and the republicans are yelling at him to get in the fight. >> i think what he's doing to get in the fight right now first of all they'll say to president obama, they're going to start calling him a liar. they said they're going to start doing that. they're going to take the bain ads that have been so devastating to the governor and to romney and say, president obama is the liar. they're going to use the word "lie" over and over again and that will help to frame his opponent. >> cenk: i call romney a liar all the time. there's good reason. he's a liar. but there are two distinctions. number one, i explain why i say that. he says i care about the deficit and president obama said, if you care about the deficit why would you do 1 trillion-dollar tax cut for the rich? that's why he's lying about that. now the second thing is i'm not a presidential candidate romney is. that's a different level in
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terms of civility and speeches. does he have anything to back up calling president obama a liar? >> no, there has been nothing. there is no way of saying that he's lying in to to in what mitt romney did. a you look at the steel plant where they decimated it where the government had to step in and fund the pension fund. i think absolutely you look at this and say you you cannot call him a liar, but the republicans have said things before that stick even when they're not true. bombs and weapons of mass destruction are the first that come to mind and people believe it. >> cenk: the first time in a long time that i've seen democrats on the offense and republicans on the defense as the presidential campaign is starting to heat up. that's surprising in and of itself. i think it's really good news j. >> and its surprising to the republicans. they don't know quite what to do with that. >> cenk: the money is coming,
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thank you michael. the money is coming. believe me we're just at the beginning at the tip of the iceberg. i want to you understand something. it's okay to live in the hamptons. it's okay to be fabulously wealthy, oprah lebron james they earned. it's okay. it's different when you get to buy our government by bribing our officials in an illegal legal manner. you shouldn't have a vote that is more than the nail lady's. it should be one vote for one man or nail lady. we have an outbreak of tuberculosis. why is the florida governor covering it up. >> we have an outbreak much tuberculosis. it's in the homeless community. how dangerous is it for the rest of us. >> cenk: the governor thought well if it's only the homeless,
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i don't have to share that information. revolting as usual. we have another "stand your ground" case, but in this case the families start fighting. [ screaming ] the real world and politics collide on "the gavin newsom show". this week: can a futurist really predict the future? find out on "the gavin newsom show". only on current tv. in your jeep grand cherokee. and when you do, you'll be grateful for the adaptive cruise control that automatically adjusts your speed when approaching slower traffic. and for the blind spot monitoring that helps remind you that the highway might not be as desolate... you thought.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: all right, we're back on "the young turks." there is a very serious tuberculosis outbreak in florida happening right now. in fact, it is the worse in 20 years. here is the number from duvall county florida, 13 deaths and 99 illnesses. it turns out this was known about back in april. and the cdc was involved. but for some reason the officials in florida decided not to share that information. we'll talk about why that might be the case in a minute. but finally we have found out about it. now here is the cbs affiliate in florida talking about this outbreak on june 5th. >> jacksonville's homeless population is the focus of a new health department investigation. doctors say they've seen a 16% increase in tuberculosis cases among the homeless. tb is spread through the air. when an infected person coughs or sneezes it usually effects the longs. tw can easily be cured with
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medication. the problem is getting that medication to people who don't stay in the same place very long. >> cenk: there are the issues of the cost of the medication and what the governor has done, it might effect his decision whether to cover that story up or not. the high risks shelters outpatient mental clinics and local jails. that presents a number of issues as well. some of which were explained in that story. if you're homeless and harder to control where they're going to go and etc. 3,000 people are at risk. 253 have been evaluatinged and a third found to be already with the disease. now that is significant if those numbers hold for overall 3,000 people at risk. well then you've got a very big outbreak. then it could spread much much further. of course, it is a big, big problem. thethey had an investigation about this and it turns out well,
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you know what, the governor's office apparently nine days before they found out about all of this, they had decided to do a couple of things, including caught back on department of health and specifically their treatment of tuberculosis. a.g.holley state hospital was closed. they had been around for 26 years handleing tough tuberculosis cases. after you make those political decisions, and you shut off funding for fighting tuberculosis and you have a tuberculosis outbreak, you might be motivated to cover it up. to me that's what it looks like it happened in florida. now of course we have found out more about it when governor scott's office was asked about it. here is a statement they put out about it. the governor's goal is to make sure that health resources are focused to meet the needs of public health, and that includes ensuring the placement of medical experts and personnel
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around the state. oh right there were tax cuts for the rich to be given out. the tb outbreak for the poor. that's a sad day for you. the rich had to get their tax breaks. that's my assessment of the priorities of the governor of florida. let's bring in the reporter who broke in story on the palm beach post to give us the details and the facts of this case. so first of all tell me about the disparity between what we knew in april and what we found out later in june. >> well, the state's legislative session had ended the end of march. the legislature voted overwhelmingly to reorganize and shrink the florida department of health and close this 60-year-old tuberculosis hospital where difficult cases had been sent. tb can take six months to cure in an uncomplicated case. for someone who has h.i.v. diabetes or cancer and is may be
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a drug abuser, mental health issues doesn't take their medicines, it could take two years or more, particularly if it's a drug-resistant strain. the community can order them confined until they're no longer contagious. holley florida was the place where that would happen. the state law required that that hospital be closed by january 1st. but i believe for financial reasons they rushed it and closed it six months ahead of time. during this period where they were rushing the hospital and finding places for 36 people with active tb, all communication with anybody that i had spoken with from the department of health, experts from the university of florida even tb experts at the center for disease control and prevention in atlanta all communication stopped. >> cenk: that's interesting. >> i couldn't get anyone to return a phone call.
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>> cenk: do you think that the 36 people taken out of the hospital is what led to the outbreak when they started mingling with other population? >> now this is interesting. the outbreak dates back to 2008 when there was a schizophrenic patient who bobbed from homeless shelter to jail to an assisted living facility for the homeless homeless. it's almost entirely african-american. i went to the facility, a very scary, unpleasant place. you don't want to be at. they live in dorm-style housing and the cdc from back then 80% of the people in that assisted living facility tested positive for tb from that one patient who was circulated for eight months. they believe another 18 people became ill and two people died. that was in 2008. even then the florida department of health did not tell the public. their rationale was that it was
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not in the general population, they said. of course they were wrong because they had not reached everyone who had been in contact with this individual. the strain of tb spread. now we're in a situation where there may be 3,000 people who have been in contact with some very sick people, who are circulating, haven't been tested and don't know if they have contracted tb or not. and who carry contagious or latent tb. >> cenk: i have to ask you about their assumptions. oh it wasn't in the general population. from the outside looking in, it was just the poor blacks who had it. i guess that's not what they mean. what do they mean? apparently it is now in the general population, and they're worried now that it's not as contained. >> they believed that they had communicated with the people they needed to communicate with. in other words, the people
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running the homeless shelters, the people running the hotels for the mentally ill. they didn't tell anyone else. and they didn't think they needed to. however, they did not reach all the contacts back then with the people who had tb. clearly it escaped out in the general population, if you will. six children have been sickened by this outbreak, and the youngest was two years old. >> cenk: all right stacey singer, a really important story out of the palm beach post. thank you for joining us. we really appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> cenk: you don't want to panic, people. i get why you might say listen, in some circumstances we don't need to tell everything oh, my god, there was an outbreak. but when it was significant this year, and they knew about it, they had a responsibility to tell us all. they didn't do it. was it for political reasons? that is a very good question to ask. we do know there have been devastating cuts all throughout. they never talk about the consequences. sometimes the consequence is a tb outbreak in florida that effects all these people including six
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kids{^l"^^}. there are consequences to all of this spending cuts, and we have to keep that in mind. all right now when we come back you want to talk about consequences, look what happened in jordan during a political debate. not only does he pull a gun out he also throws a shoe. >>we talk a lot about the influence of money in politics. it is the defining issue of this era. the candidate with the most money, does win. this is a national crisis.
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>>(narrator) the sheriff of wall street. >>the leadership of high finance just doesn't get it. >>(narrator) the former governor of new york, eliot spitzer is on current tv. >>somebody somewhere can listen, record, track, gather this data. >>arrangements were made. >>(narrator) independent unflinching. >>there is a wild west quality to it that permits them to do whatever they wish. >>(narrator) and above all politically direct. >>facts are stubborn things. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: all right, we got amazing stories from all across the world including here in the u.s. but first we start in jordan. they have a debate with two people who are running for parliament. it gets a little heated. we have got shoes. we've got guns. let's watch. [ yelling ] >> cenk: all right now the audio goes out. what is amazing the guy on the
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all right pulls out a gun and the guy who is in the debate with him approaches him anyway, like it's not a big deal. yeah i'm coming for you. what was the fight about? it turns out the guy who threw the shoe and pulled a gun called the other one an assad spy, meaning an assyrian spy. the guy who had the shoe thrown at him, he said, oh, yeah? you think i'm an assyrian an and a syrian spy? i think you're an israeli spy. and then he inassaulted his father. then off comes the shoe. then out comes the gun. who brings a gun to a shoe fight. luckily no one was shot. it's not like in the united states where you could stand your ground and shoot everyone
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on the set. now back to florida. it's always florida. this is a murder case where somebody claims stand your ground offense. they shot two brothers they got in a fight with. they had gone out to the car got the gun and then came back in and then claimed self defense any way. the family got in a fight. the guy in the suit is the allege killer's--well, he did kill him. he's pretty much a killer. it doesn't mean he's guilty of the crime. that guy is the stepfather of the alleged killer in this case. look at what happens. let's go. [ yelling ] [ yelling ]
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>> cenk: so that's the victim's family and friends fighting the killer's stepfather. it's an amazing story. the point i wanted to make about it is the great irony. they're in a courtroom. so they're not allowed to have guns. if they had guns, either side, they could have shot and killed each other and used "stand your ground" defense. do you understand how crazy stand your grouped is. if you have a gun it allows you to get away with murder oftentimes. thank god they were not allowed to have guns in that case, otherwise more people would have died. already, now when we come back we're going to talk about the wildfires. we're going to talk about a particular town who's so proud of being conservative, and how they cut their firefighters. what happened next? when you ask the fire chief hey
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wait a minute, do you want to respond to this and make sure that you got for go more firefighters. >> i couldn't make one. i just wouldn't make one.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: you remember those wildfires in colorado over the last two weeks? finally they have simmered down enough that people can go back into the area. but they had a hell of a time trying to put the fire out. one of the most effected communities was colorado springs. colorado springs is proudly conservative. they have been for a long time. in fact, they needed to raise taxes for $28 million budget hole in 2010 and they refused to do it. diane sawyer had a report about it back then.
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[ audio difficulties ] >> if they want the lawns trimmed in the park. but there may not be much to trim. water is being cut off to the parks. >> cenk: i tell you what they're conservative, bring your own lawnmower. 20 years ago they started the taxpayer bill of rights. we were not going to raise taxes on under any circumstance! all right, fantastic. what has been the result? because of the 2010 cuts we have public safety being shrunk by 8%. that may become relevant later. shut off 10,000 street lights. auctioned police helicopters cut state funding for museums closed parks, pools, etc. what have we happened? we have 50 fewer police officers and more importantly, 39 fewer firefighters. the results? when the fire began well, they
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didn't have enough people to put out the fire. hence, 18,000 acres burned, 346 homes destroyed, 32 homes vandalized. when the fire broke out 98% now finely contained as of sunday but they did not have enough cops to stop a string of robberies that occurred throughout colorado springs. when you cut and cut sometimes it burns your house down. how do you like your tax pair bill of rights now? this is called your chickens coming home to roost. if you don't like that, that's harsh language? well that's reality. sometimes spending cuts have tremendous consequences. now they asked the fire chief there, well, you see how it's warmer and warmer, and you're catching more fires. could this be an issue? do you have a plan? get a load of the response.
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>> if the signs don't stay, and the signs say these are going to be more frequent, more severe, what is your case to local authorities saying we need more people, we need more money. >> i wouldn't make one. just because its getting warmer doesn't mean it's going to mean there is going to be a fire. >> cenk: september thereexcept there was just a giant fire, you genius. that's their fire chief rich brown. fantastic. the next time a fire comes through, who could have seen it coming ?! we could see it coming. one the guys running for mayor could see it coming. he lost, of course, he said, what if a giant fire breaks out and we don't have enough firefighters. loser. he only got it 100% right. james west is editor and producer of climate desk. good to have you here. let's talk about this situation here. when the fire chief is asked about climate change he says,
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aah, don't worry about it. is that an attitude we're seeing throughout the country? does he mean it because of political pressure? >> to be fair to rich brown for a moment, he came off the back of that question and said this is a fire that had unprecedented factors involved with the start of this fire. there was unprecedented drought early snow melt leading to an early fire season that will go for longer. he made the case if he had 2,000 firefighters this would have been a very difficult scene to actually save houses from. i think colorado spring residents themselves say yes the firefighters did a very good job maintaining the fire around the houses. let's look at the science. scientists are warning us this is going to be more frequent, and the american west is going to turn into a tinderbox. it already is a tinderbox. i posed that question to many.
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that was what was surprising for me. given the science what role does the science play at the table when we're talking about budget issues. according to rich brown no place at the table at all. >> cenk: james, that's the whole point. you kept quoting him saying this is all unprecedented. yeah that's because we've got climate change and things are not normal. they're not what they used to be. they're unprecedented. we have this massive heatwave now. we've broken more hot records. 40,000 this year. are we seeing an adjustment to our new unprecedented conditions? >> well, certainly we're watching record temperatures right around the country this summer. you know, many, many places are experiencing--if you're on the east coast where i'm from, it is boiling hot. it is an oven there at the moment. people are scrambling on what to do. we're posing these questions to the agriculture secretary and also janet napolitano, and both
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recognize yes when you have abnormal summers one after the other there is an emerging pattern. we tried to ask a few more questions to get specifics but the specifics are hard to get. from the federal level we seem to get some understanding this is a pattern and perhaps some of the outdated firefighting gear needs to be updated. but when we drilled down to this one place colorado springs, it does seem that the timing trying to fill the budget gaps and the drought and it's all working into--i hate to say it--a perfect storm of factors causalities and risk that are leading to more fires in the area. >> cenk: thank you for joining us. thank you. >> my pleasure. >> cenk: by the way, ten hottest years on record all happened in the last 15 years. wild coincidence i'm sure. eliot spitzer is up next for a viewpoint. what have you got for us?
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>> eliot: we're talking taxes. it's 98% versus 2%. are you going to fight for the 98% or the percent. voter suppression is going to be a hot issue all the way through november. will people be able to get to the ballot box. and a more theoretical issue. is technology destroying our job base. is it man versus machine and is technology eating away the middle class, something that the economists are beginning to discuss in a serious conversation. >> cenk: i think it's man versus corporate machine, but that's the theme of our show. >> eliot: that is true also. >> cenk: great, i look forward to it coming up in a bit. next on our program a ceo made only $44 million in just one day. we'll tell but that outrage and how that turned out when we come back. [ ♪ music ♪ ]
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>> it's go time. (vo) at the only online forum with a direct line to cenk uygur. >>if you had to vote for a republican, which one would it be? (vo) join the debate now. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: welcome to the segment we call aggressive progressive. that would be me. now duke energy and progress energy merged. good for them, but not good for bill johnson ceo of duke energy because he was fired after a day or decided to step down. don't feel bad for johnson because he got $44 million for that one day's work. you know how much that comes out to? if he worked an eight hour day which i'm not convinced of, it would would come out to $5.5 million per hour. how do you like them apples? now ceo pay is outrageous.
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that's a whole new level. when you look at ceo pay, do you know how much it is larger than the average worker? 280 times more. that's not how it always was. it was 40 times more, everyone knows the ceo is going to be paid more. this is an outrageous amount more. in fact, in the last 30 years did you know that their pay the ceo's pay is going up 127 times faster than your pay. so when they say oh, trickle down don't worry. eventually it will get to you. no, not really. it doesn't get to you at all. it goes 127 times more to the ceo. why? they have rigged the rules. they get to pick their own boards. the shareholders can't even vote. they're the owners of the company. look at this. do you know how much it takes for a ceo to buy a gallon of milk? .01 seconds. for the guy
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