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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> jennifer: i'm jennifer granholm. mitt romney speaks to the naacp and all of our heads explode. >> i'm many think i'm running for office to help the rich. nonsense, the rich will do just fine whether i'm elected or not itch. >> jennifer: you said you don't care about poor people, and your policies are a disaster for the middle class why are you running again? truth is that is just another romney lies. not a secret one at that. secrets and lies, it's bread and butter for political hacks. eat up, mitt. [ ♪ music ♪ ]
>> romney: i submit to you this, if you want to president who will make things better in the african-american community, you are looking at him. [ boos ] you take a look. >> jennifer: take a look. oh, mitt they're looking but they don't like what they see. so i want to begin tonight's show with a shout out to you mitt. you inspire me. why you ask? well because almost everything that comes out of your mouth is either a distortion or an outright lie. i'm making it this show's mission to point it out on a daily basis. tonight "the war room" is kicking off a new series that we're calling "mitt's secrets and lice." let's start with your speech at today's naacp convention. >> romney: i believe that if you understood who i truly am in my heart and if it were possible
to fully communicate what is really in the endureing best interest of african-american families, you would vote for me president. >> jennifer: mitt, i'm not sure that you have a heart. but the policies that you espouse are certainly not in the best interest of african-american families. nor any middle class families for that matter. tell us how cutting income tax rates for the wealthiest is going to help most african-americans. or voter i.d. laws, mitt, your silence on that mattered before the naacp when they're focusing on that is deafening. especially back in april you sided with pennsylvania republicans who wanted to disenfranchise voters. and you say you want to end obama-care, which as today's boos may have indicated is actually really popular with african-americans. among other things ending obama-care would make it harder for black women who are most likely to die from breast cancer
than white women it makes it more difficult for them to get free screenings. let's be honest, mitt. i know that's hard for you but today's naacp appearance was not really an attempt to win over black voters. this is an attempt to make yourself look more either inclusive to independents, but perhaps more importantly this was an attempt to get fox news some video of angry black people booing at you. and that is today's not-so-secret lie. coming to us from houston the site of this year's naacp conference is the reverend wendell anthony president of the group's detroit chapter the largest. reverend anthony was on the show last night before mitt romney's speech, and we wanted to get his reaction after it. reverend anthony welcome back inside "the war room." >> so nice we have to do it
twice, governor. >> jennifer: that's right. >> you already outlined what went down. the rolling stones had a song called "i can't get no satisfaction" what we had was political attraction but we got no satisfaction. the fact is mr. romney came with great fanfare, but he did not leave on the table much for us to consume. he talked about looking--if we understood his heart--then we might vote for him for president. let's look at his heart. when he was governor of massachusetts he never met with the naacp during his entire tenure. he worked and moved to end affirmative action. he caused a fee of $125 for persons who wanted to submit a complaint form for discrimination. that's a heart issue. he told us in michigan to go
bankrupt to the auto industry. that's a heart issue. african-americans who benefit tremendously from the affordable healthcare act because they have sons and daughters who can remain as all persons in america's who have sons and daughters, who can remain on their healthcare program until 26. that's a heart program. the fact that you cannot be thrown off of healthcare because of pre-existing conditions, that's a health program. when mr. romney says when we look at his heart we'll vote for him for president. well, willard mitt romney we're looking at your heart and we don't find it there. >> jennifer: reverend anthony i'm standing in front of the picture of a tin man with governor romney's face on it, and i'm listening. i don't think he has a heart either. wait a second, let's take a listen from this moment from this speech that is getting a lot of buzz. let's take a quick listen.
>> romney: so to do that i'm going to eliminate every non-essential expensive program i can find. that includes obama-care, and i'm going to work to reform and save. [ boos for 14 seconds ] >> jennifer: now reverend anthony if you look at fox news, they will tell you that the crowd went too far to boo. do you think that the crowd went too far? >> absolutely not. that occurred when he brought this toadis to the president and the policy for things that i justeel numerated. you don't come to someone's house and attack something that you know everyone is attuned in, and his advisers indicated to him that that would not go over well. mr. romney said at the end of this, i knew i was going to get booed. did you come so you did get booed so use that as an
indication we naive to ref up our base to attack and go on with the mission to make sure that we get the votes that we need. you articulated that. most people who come to the naacp, naacp is a very conservative organization. he got a number of small applause, but he also got that boo when he dised president obama. when you say obama-care. obama does care. that's the problem. obama-care as they use is it a derogatory term. you don't come to somebody's house and cuss them out at the dinner table. >> jennifer: i hear what you're saying, although i think the word obama-care is going to go down in history. >> no question. >> jennifer: as something that is a real positive. i don't think we should be afraid of using it because it stamps his name on something that he brought to the country. i have a question that might be a little bit different and a little bit sensitive. mitt romney used to be a bishop in the mormon church. and the mormon church did not
allow blacks to be priests until 1978. is it a corn at all to the naacp members, but bishop romney never stood up to the discriminatory practices of his church. >> that goes to the question of the heart again. if you're bishop of any church, it doesn't matter, god looks at the heart and not on the head. where your heart is there be your treasure also. there is a saying that the apple does not fall far from the tree. mitt romney's father was also a mormon. he was a former governor of michigan. unfortunately, this apple has not only fallen there the tree rolled down the hill, and now is somewhere in the gully. we can't find where it is. the bottom line is, yes we believe he should have spoken out against that. yes we believe he should have greater sensitivity to the needs not only of african-americans but all people of color. he did not do that.
we're not labeling romney one thing or another. we're looking at mr. romney's policies. his policies have not been heart centered. his policies have not been directed to those who are in need. finally, like franklin roosevelt said one time our abundance is determined not by how much more we can give those who already have a lot. but our abundance is determined by how much we give to those who have a little. mr. romney, give us a little love by helping us with some policies. >> jennifer: reverend anthony poet and head of the largest chapter of naacp. thank you so much for coming back inside "the war room." okay you political junkies we have lots more to come. after the break john boehner calls 33 times to call healthcare reform resolve. i call it ridiculous. jacki spears comes to discuss it. plus if you have a mortgage,
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31. >> the vast north of people in this country like the healthcare that they have, and they'd like to keep it. but now thanks to this law patients across the nation are losing access to the healthcare that they like. >> jennifer: that's eric cantor distorting the truth. they have spent a lot of time on an issue that is not going anywhere. maybe field end this exercise of
futility. according to the survey, 56% of americans think that the congress needs to move on to other business like say jobs. which brings to my point. it is not just congress, by the way, it seems that republican governors ought to be looking at that poll and moving on, too. some southern governors like texas' rick perry wants to vote no on obama-care in his own way. but those governors their version is to secede from healthcare, and they're just dancing for the tea party. i know that. here's my prediction. all those governors, they will all opt in eventually. why? opting out is going to end their political careers. let's use rick perry as an example since he's threaten to go mess with texas. under obama-care most of texas' 6 million uninsured are going to get access to healthcare and federal aid. but that rational argument does not appeal to tea partyers like
perry, turning down federal money is a badge of honor for them. but texans are still going to pay for healthcare reform. turning down the medicaid expansion means rejecting $76.3 billion in texas alone for five years. so texans are still going to pay billions in federal medicare taxes, but those texans are not going to get any of the benefits. does rick perry really want to campaign on that? does he want to tell texans, yeah you're giving a chunk of your weekly paycheck to beneficiaries in new york. texans funding healthcare for yankees. i can just see the campaign ads now. secondly rick perry's plan is going to devastate hospitals. payment to hospitals for
uncompensated care, that's when they treat an uninsured patient who cannot afford care, that extra money that's eliminated. so texas hospitals received nearly $1 billion of those payments in 2011 and $1.7 billion the year before. the loss of those special funds is going to be catastrophic for hospitals. including to dr. bruce seagull officer of public hotels and health systems. he was on last night. take a listen. >> you take away this money the special funding that supports hospital funding then you say we're not going to cover people on medicaid, it's a complete train wreck. >> jennifer: so if texas opts out, their hospitals lose those extra funds and then on top of it they lose reimbursement for the obama care. they're hit twice.
they will have to go to taxpayer dollars or go bankrupt and close hospital doors. texas hospitals are known throughout the country. remember that's where gabby giffords went for her surgery? rick perry will opt out. good luck. if rick perry opts out and the people who die prematurely because they opted out of healthcare, they will have no hope. but they like texass hospitals and tax payers will still have their freedom. freedom to move to another state. freedom to move to one that has compassion that wants its citizens to live a healthy and productive life, wantses hospitals to be world class and wants its hospitals to get what
they paid for. governor perry if you do opt out of healthcare reform, you won't have to secede from the union. instead, i reckon come election time texans will is he succeed from you. it's a good thing that we have women in washington like jacki speier fighting the radical republican agenda. congressman speier, welcome back inside "the war room." >> governor, it's great to be with you. >> jennifer: now great to have you on. thank you for joining us. now let me get right to the vote. there were five democrats who joinedepublicans today in voting to repeal obama-care. how do you feel about that? >> i don't have a problem with the original vote. i have a problem with the fact that we have voted for this issue 33 times. albert einstein once said insanity is when you do the same
thing over and over again expecting a different result. there were so many important issues for us to be deal be with than having the premiere issue for the republicans be put up once again knowing full well that nothing will happen to it in the senate. >> jennifer: i suspect that it's a opportunity for democrats to message, and i want to play a clip of an ad being run against mary bono mack. take a listen. >> you remember congress may repeal important healthcare benefits for every day americans. but protected congress. >> love the fact that democrats are going on offense over healthcare. is this a strategy that will condition? >> i think so. the republicans want to repeal obama-care, but they want to keep the health insurance they have as federal employees intact.
so what is good for the goose is good for the gander. in this case i think we're going to be able to use that effectively. >> jennifer: let me just switch lanes for just one--switch gears for a moment. you've been really instrumental in shining a light on a really dark part of the military. i would ask that you tell us a little bit about that? >> it's the issue of what is called the military ex-sexual trauma. 19,000 men and women each year are sexually assaulted and raped in the military. only about 13% of them actually report. of that number it is reduced to something like 8% who actually are tried and convicted. the problem is we keep having these extraordinarily horrific scandals occur across this country in the military at bases, and the congress has not taken action, frankly the military has not taken action to deal specifically with it.
we have literally 500,000 men and women who have left the military scared for life, dealing with post traumatic stress, and they've never had their case dealt with appropriately. many times the perpetrators are elevated promoted, and the victim is victimized a second time by being labeled by having a personality disorder, and this charge from the military honorably but involuntarily. >> jennifer: how do you propose shedding light or fixing the problem? >> i've told the stories of victims on the house floor these survivors some 21 times. i've introduced legislation called the top act which would take the reporting of these crimes out of the chain of command. when you report it to your unit commander or the person right above, there is a conflict of interest. what happens if your unit commander is, in fact you're beauser or is the person who
raped you. what if he's best friends with the person who raped you. you're not going to get a fair shake. >> jennifer: this has been so--it has not gotten much attention presumably because it has been muzzled by that conflict of interest? >> exactly. by creating a separate office within the military, staff with experts in terms of investigation and prosecution you're going to have men and women who are raped and sexually assaulted feel freer to come forward and file a complaint and now that their case will be handled with fairness. right now at an air force base there is another scandal brewing. >> jennifer: well, this--this should be an issue that would get support from both sides of the aisle. although i know that the acrimony in congress is high, tell me, please, if this bill has got bipartisan support? >> well, it does have bipartisan support, but it's only one
republican so far who has joined us. there are 125 members of the house that have signed on to this legislation. so it is gaining traction but we have not gained enough traction to get the bill heard and we don't have enough military support to change the way they've done business since the beginning of time. >> jennifer: thanks for fighting for people who might otherwise feel intimidated to come forward. thank you for voting the way you did on the healthcare and for continuing to fight for the little guy. that's representative jacki speier. i appreciate her coming into "the war room." coming up, the stressful time for homeowners. it's richard cordray job to relief some of that there's. he'll join us after the break. but perhaps the darkest part of dark money. karl rove left attack dog super
[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> jennifer: now for some good news. a wall street journal report released today shows that the housing market is actually recovering. you see this little dip up right there? somewhat good news. home prices are inching up after seven months of decline. but here is the not so good news, which is that one in four homes is still underwater, meaning of course the owners owe more on them than what they're actually worth. how do we prevent another housing bubble? according to mitt romney by doing absolutely nothing. first he criticized the administration for not doing enough saying if this
administration continues to stick it's head in the sand sand wait for the housing crisis to run it's course, i'm afraid the president could end up losing his current residence in 2012. then less than a week later he completely reversed position saying the best way to fix the housing crisis is to let it run it's course and hit the bottom. classic mitt. of course, this administration has not had its head in the sand. last year the president created the consumer financial protection bureau. not only to crackdown on predatory mortgage lenders but also on payday lenders, risky student loans and unfair credit card fees. yesterday that agency released new protections for high-risk home buyers, simplifying mortgage forms that show costed and risks. the expand protections from predatory lenders, thank
goodness. and banning certain fees. so joining me now from washington, the director of the consumer financial protection bureau is richard cordray. richard, thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room" room." >> my pleasure. >> so you have been working hard, i know you guys were shot out of the canon. what exactly were these new regulations, and who are they going to help? >> so our objective is to make the mortgage market work for consumers. we're working to make it clear so consumers know what they're getting into and know before they owe. we're looking to make the market reliable so the people know the deal they're getting today is the deal they'll live with for a month, a year and into the future. we'll look to make sure that the market is accountable. when people make errors that they will get fixed, when someone is standing on the consumer's side to make that happen that's our job.
>> jennifer: i'm the consumer. i get my mortgage. how do i see that? how do i know that you're working for me? >> where you see it we're establishing clear rules of the road from the moment that you apply for your mortgage and you shop through the time that you close on your mortgage and make sure that consumers are no longer set up to fail as happens so often. you and i saw in the midwest the foreclosure crisis coming an a number of years ago. if you run into problem you'll get the reasonable help that people expect that they should get. basic customer service and rules in place to make sure that that happens. >> jennifer: how are you going to make certain that the rules are enforced, who would do that? >> we would do it. we would exam critically, not just banks in the mortgage industry, but non-banks so we have full authority across the
board for the first time at the federal level. and we have the ability to enforce the law directly, as you and i did when we were attorneys general, to make sure that the rules stick and people understand they have to follow these. >> jennifer: so attorneys general across the country would be deputized to be able to help your bureau enforce the laws? >> they do have some authority to enforce rules under the dodd frank act. but we at the consumer bureau would do that directly and we would have primary responsibility to do that. >> jennifer: you'll need to be more staff. i'll be the first to lobby for more staff for you. let me ask you quickly, the new times reported that financial institutions again are preying on the most vulnerable and least financially sophisticated borrowers. could that lead to another financial collapse? in other words, what has been done to ensure that it won't.
these rules are a step in the right direction, but is it enough to make sure that people are not preyed upon. >> we very much believe if this consumer bureau had been in place ten years ago we would have headed off the mortgage crisis that sank our economy. this were rules of the road that were unclear and only applied to banks and didn't apply to non-bank mortgage lenders and the mortgage servicers. that's what sanked the economy. it's a multi trillion dollar market. that's why we've been given the job to make sure that these problems are fixed. but there are still issues. there are practices that are a concern in terms of how consumers are treated across the country. they deserve a fair deal from the banks. and the banks need to understand that it's important to treat their customers fairly, not just staytoday, tomorrow, but for the long run. >> jennifer: the bureau has been the subject of enormous partisan
fighting and mitt romney called it perhaps the most unaccountable bureaucracy in the history of our nation, headed by a powerful and unaccountable bureaucrat with unprecedented authority over the economy. cordray's appointment is chicago style at its worst. how do you respond to that? you look like a regular guy. >> well, i'm a midwestern you through and through. our work is straightforward and i think the american people know how important it is when they're dealing with financial matters when it's confusing and bewilder bewildering for a lot of people. they can count on the fact they're getting a fair deal, and they're not going to be ambushed by the fine print, and someone will hold them accountable if they're not treated fairly and the rules not followed. it's important to 340 americans. that's who we're accountable to.
we understand the job we have had to do, and it's important. >> jennifer: you were worried about your agency survival under a romney presidency. >> i think the work we're doing is resonating with people in every congressional district across the country. every one of the representatives and senators hear from people every day who were in trouble with foreclosure. maybe maybe they are piled under credit card debt or students loans. i think we justify ourselves and i think that's what carries the day in the end working with the public interest. >> jennifer: that's a good answer. i'm worried about you guys surviving, but i do appreciate you coming on to explain to people what the bureau is doing and that it's really fighting for every day citizens, and it's important that it survived. that's richard cordray, head of the consumer financial protection bureau. up next for a super pac to
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> jennifer: so there is mounting evidence that corporations are filmingcorporations are funneling money into corporations that are worse than super pac. they're called social welfare groups and they're treated like non-profits under the law just like the united way or the salvation army or feed the children. but these groups could not do good deeds. these political groups masquerade as charity organizations to allow corporations to make huge, tax-exempt donations without any of the disclosure requirements that apply to candidates, parties, or even pacs. these are the 2010 numbers. during the 2010 midterm these
solve welfare groups outspent super pacs, like at that, 3-2. and in this election these social welfare groups have already spent $100 million. one of the biggest gropes is the u.s. chamber of commerce. it's classified as a non-profit business league. so donations to it are tax-exempt. and it's donors who help finance $33 million in political ads the donors are an allowed to remain totally anonymous. but "the new york times" discovered some of the claimers' largest backers are prudential, financial, cheveron, metlife and merck. the only restriction on these groups is that they can't be, quote, political. which means that they can't back a single candidate. so their money goes to issue ads like this one by karl rove's
crossroads gps. take a look. >> obama for real job growth, support the new majority agenda. >> jennifer: not exactly a charitable ad. to help guide us through this dark money pit i'm joined by mother jones andy, he has written about this. andy welcome inside welcome back inside "the war room." >> thank you. >> jennifer: how much influence do these groups provide corporations on the election? >> yeah, well, in the citizens united decision was handed down in january 2010, there was this fear that corporations were going to dump limitless amounts of money into our elections. over the course of the year everyone said it was going to be super pacs. super pacs this. super pacs that. it was the big thing. but what we found it was really these non-profit, social welfare
organizations that were really the weapon of choice for the corporations the weapon of choice for karl rove the koch brothers. they operate entirely through non-profit organizations because these organizations do not have to disclose though donors. while all the attention has been on super pacs really we need to be training our sites on all these non-profit groups, all this dark money sloshing around that is in the senate races all these races and we don't know where it's coming from. >> jennifer: what is the difference between what these organizations do and what pacs and super pacs and candidates can do? >> super pacs can run an ad that says vote for mitt romney. super pacs can accept unlimited money from really, really rich 1 percenters, they can except money from corporations. they can bring this money in and
say outright, vote for this person. social welfare organizations technicallies are not supposed to do that. but what we're seeing in the 2012 direction and what 2012 election, and what we saw in 2010, they are it' supposed to be benefiting the broader good in this country but what we're seeing with the american action network with the koch-backed americans for prosperity we see blatantly political ads. it says call president obama and tell him stop being a bad america. there is no difference here. >> jennifer: except for the words "vote for." they can say all the bad things they want about whatever candidates they want. and they can say call--you've seen those ads that say call so and so. that's perfectly fine as a social welfare organization that against tax exemptiongets tax exemption.
who is enforcing this, and why did it being challenged, or is it? >> so we're just seeing the front edge of the challenges coming out with these groups because they are becoming so brazen about flaunting this law the tax law saying that they're not supposed to be overtly political. the majority of what they do is not supposed to be political. the irs said it is investigating karl rove' cross roads gps. youmean are biting their nails worried that the irs is going to come knocking on their door. but the problem is the irs has less than 1% audit rates. you can get away with murder, if
you will, for the election, and if any punishment is handed down it will be in 2013 2014. >> jennifer: karl rove's philosophy will be better to ask for forgiveness than permission if it means that thinks candidate gets elected. i'm curious about whether any of the shareholders of these major corporations know that the money, their shareholders funds are going to these quote tax exempt organizations what a bunk of crock. andy kroll he has an article coming up. you'll have to look it up. later on, god bless lesbians. finally putting woman first second and third. and we'll discuss we will talk very, very excited about that
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> jennifer: on the campaign front while mitt romney was making his case to the naacp the obama war room went on the attack. it released a new tv ad in nine battleground states going after mitt romney's tax plan. take a look. >> the choice on taxes, mitt romney's plan. tax breaks for oil companies and
corporations that ship jobs overseas. but a tax hike for 18 million working families. president obama's plan asks the wealthy to pay a little more so the middle class pays less, two plans, your choice. >> jennifer: joining me now to take the pulse of the campaign are two always informed political insiders. christine pelosi chairs the california women's caucus. you can find her stuff on political insights and political arena texas. and tom the chairman of the california republican party thank you for joining us. you heard that ad. that had was not a bain attack add, but the pain attack attack ads have been having their impacts. these are the polls that came out today. we asked america at marquette university and ppp all had polls
showing as you can see the president is up in every one of those states, and some pretty significantly. these are states all in which those attack ads have been running. tom, your guy has got a lot of explainin' to do. >> the last eight presidential winners have all been tax cutters. and the losers were tax raisers. the pennsylvania number, obama won pennsylvania by more than that in the mccain race. that is a danger. now that it's settling in, and unfortunately the economy for obama is starting to bottom out again, and it's just sitting there flat, the question is whether romney makes the case that there is a better way to go than funding certain companies and raising taxes. i think look, it's historically a hard sale for obama to say i'm going to raise your taxes because everybody flinches
because they don't believe it will only be them. >> jennifer: go. >> i've never seen a middle class fringe when a billionaire was told they were going to have to pay their fair share. americans will get a tax cut up to $250,000. people are starting to understand. speaking of explaining to do, mitt romney has to explain. barack obama is defining him and you never want that. >> jennifer: there was a poll out very interesting. releasing the poll of registered women. in that poll it breaks down that president obama freely actually leads. he leads overall but between married women and single women there is a huge divide between the two. christine, what does the president have to do to get this number here up? >> a couple of things, and we talk about married women.
we talk about married women of all ages, including women in their 40s like me, supportive of the president and with young children concerned about issues like education and teachers and nurses and cops and firefighters in my community keeping me safe. the numbers obviously are going to be higher among married members of union households, but the campaign needs to do what my number nancy pelosi did 25 years ago. she had a brigade of all the grandmothers who went out and telling the story. that's what barack obama the older women going out to telling their story. >> jennifer: on the flip side how does mitt romney address his problem here. >> there isn't much of a gender gap. those are register voters, not likely. >> jennifer: as we were knows. >> romney needs to do what he did today at the naacp that is
show up. it was a win that he was there. >> jennifer: win for who? >> for romney. pure win for romney. if you're going to be president you have to be president for all. that's what obama did last time and he didn't do it this time. that's why he'll lose. romney needs to be there and make the case how their economic future is off. >> jennifer: do you think he was making the case to a bigger audience. >> no, i've been in places where i was not supposed to be and it was ran statewide. the issue is was he there. when they boo him that's a good thing. >> i don't think so. i think he was there to collect the boos so everybody could say he got booed because he showed up at the african-american
congress. he didn't go there to talk to them about how the mormon religion only allowed african-americans and 34 years ago or how at bain capital he had zero black executives. he could have made that point to them and talked about that. instead he talked if he was president and he made that point. >> jennifer: money and politics being a big thing there is a now a lesbian backed super pac formed today called l-pac. it's got a number of high profile people who are supporting it. it aims to support candidates who are going to end lgbt discrimination. do you think that this means--and i'm looking at you christine, that the gay community, especially lesbians, are coming into the mainstream of funding candidates? >> absolutely. not only that, but being talent scouts for not only for candidates but for issue advocates. marriage equality is going to take a broad spectm o o supportrt
tw ntw the t p pti offllll philososhihi.. it'sit wonderful that l pac is entering the support and causes. >> jennifer: it's another area where your guy has problems. >> no, i'm not a fan of super pacs at all. >> jennifer: but we're talking about the lack of support from the gay community because he has not supported them in gay marriage. >> there are issues we differ on that exists. but the rice of super pacs is not a good thing for america right now. >> jennifer: i agree with you. >> you know what, it could be a task force. but the point is they're out therethere in the arena and that's significant. >> jennifer: we have a ton the questions, but we only scratched the surface. i'm so grateful for you coming and discussing the issues of the day. christine and tom, and up next, hollywood and washington come together in a head-on crash kind
[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> jennifer: hollywood brad, angeline inangelina their parents who better to give us on la la land than brett erlich. >> listen, this brad pitt mom thing is getting out of control. then jon veto hopped in it now it's on. brad pitt's mom wrote a pro-romney letter saying any christian should spend much time in prayer before refusing to vote for a family man who is against abortion and shares christian conviction just because he's a mormon. if it's a difference between discriminateing between a mormon
and a gay always go for a gay. this should go over well for angelina, who for a period was also gay as a girl. we have this serious home footage. i hate to see them fight. now the public is up in arms. according to radar online, brad's mom has received death dress from twitterthreats from twitter useers like i bleed ga-ga. and now jon voigt jumps in and saying i believe her. you're going to espouse her belief and you're the gigolo from midnight cowboy. why don't you stay out of the public eye and stick with what you're good at,