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with jennifer granholm. grab them. >> hello and thanks for watching the show. you might know him as a four-hour workweek guy with the four-hour body. now the mega successful self-help author has another trick up his sleeve. we'll tell you what that is. then and then technologies and co-founder of all these things. and then finally innovations. innovations that take you from science fiction to science fact. intel's futurist. that's brian david johnson's title. he has mind-blowing ideas.
but first the story behind the four-hour concept for workingercicising, tmeme g ji er, the four-hour workweek. escape 9:00 to 5:00. three years later only as he could, he wrote a new book. the four-hour body, with rapid fat loss, incredible sex and welcome to the show. you find yourself on the best-seller list and then you follow that up with the four-hour body. you've had a lot of grief. who is that guy that comes in and tells me i only have to work four hours a week. i love my job and i'm required to work more than four hours. >> that was not the original title to the four-hour workweek,
which was turned down by 26 publishers before it was bought by crown was drug dealing for fun and profit. >> exact same book. >> the exact same book. the title is the name of a princeton group. it was a tongue-in-cheek title and they did not like the title very much. it was sent back to me. i took 12 titles, and i bidded them on google, i put them on different things, the highest was the four hour workweek. it started off as the two-hour workweek because that's how much time i was spending running this sports and nutrition company.
the publisher said, that's too unbelievable, and we compromised in four hours. it's been a blessing and a course ever since. >> the whole idea is not working less necessarily but working smarter. >> it is taking a portfolio of techniques, almost none of them i invented the principles, laws laws etc., and applying it to what you do so you have maximum power output. if you choose to use the same number of hours great. i have a quote from tim draper, and he's not going to recommend people work four hours a week. and other people have read it, and they don't want their employees to work four hours a week. but they do want their employees to get as much done as they sit in front of the computers. >> it gets rave reviews because
it challenges people about designing a life. is that fundamentally what you're trying to achieve here communicate a life worth living. it has some balance and integration to what? >> what it, i suppose at its core is intended to teach is how to focus on designing a lifestyle, ie, a life that you want to have, including the things you want to be, what is fun. then work back backwards that you design your career and business to support that instead of having this deferred life plan with retirement and future, putting all these various things off, and then having your lifestyle being a side-effect of whatever your business happens to be. >> how do you define--what's your closest approximate approximate approximation of success? >> i encourage people not to use the word because it has become
so meaningless or subjective. same with happiness. but success to me--this is going to sound cheesy, but it's the best answer i have been able to come up with. loving being loved and never stopping learning. it's continual learning and projecting a sense of gratitude for what i have. >> with the highly driven type-a personalities who really want to change the world and achieve so many things, you have to not only achieve what you want, but want what you achieve. i think that the achievement without gratitude or appreciation is a very hollow >> what do you mean with that? we get on a certain path, we can't get off and we actually successfully fail? >> or with each achievement you blaze past it focusing on what
is next, never taking time to really appreciate what you've done. i'm as guilty of that as the next person, but i do try to build in a practice, just like working out, taking five minutes each day to look at what i'm grateful for. i think it is tremendously influenced how i live my life, enjoy my life, and plan things as well. >> how does--the notion, the attitude, of gratitude what is your workweek? what does that look like? how have you designed your life? have you taken the core tenants i assume you have of your book, i imagine to even a new level. >> my weeks are highly variable. i'm on book deadline, which looks like book deadline which is a fantastic test of the tenants and principles of the four hour workweek because you have to say no to almost everything in order to write a book effectively. because i think a book--writing a book is a magnification of
what many people witness in the workplace. paul graham wrote an excellent article called "the managers versus the makers." which effectively says a single two- to four-block of time will always be more productive than 20 minute increments of time stacked on top of each other with interruptions in between. saying no is difficult when you're instantaneously available through twitter facebook, text messages etc. that becomes stemming the tide and controlling your information informational intake becomes one of the most important tools of producing anything of your own volition. >> you give very practical advice in your book, e-mail, just have an auto response that says unavailable except between
these office hours. >> right exactly. the hardest part for people is following that advice. >> are you successful at that? >> i am to the extent that i have to be. the beauty of auto response or something indicated that you're batching e-mail at these following times but you are available via phone let's say hypothetically, for anything urgent. but yes e-mail is the mind kill killer for a lot of people. >> up next, tim's next big thing. and here's a clue. it takes four hours. we'll be back to talk about that and why costco rejected his last best selling book. it's easier to beat republicans when they consistently have to defend the indefensible. >>love that fightin' spirit. >>all of this is as corrupt as could be. you show me a banker, i'll throw every nasty label at him in a second because i just think that
>>we tackle the big issues here in our nation's capital. >> we're back with tim ferris, the four our phenomenon. true or not costco takes the four hour body, a best seller and said yep, not for us. >> true story and this actually came to me through readers who had noticed it had been pulled off the shelves and i had no idea what the cause could be, and then i realized with the
placement of two chapters had caused this problem. the chapter in question was called the 15 minute female orgasm included for a lot of good reasons, and it just so happened this chapter was right smack in the middle of the book. not planned, although i wanted to take strategic credit for this, every single person who went to costco, all the mothers would flip this book open, right to diagrams of the female anatomy and it was not a crowd pleaser. it was yanked off the shelves for that reason. >> you had never written a book before? >> no. >> not your background? >> not my background. >> it takes a lot of preparation and hard work. you had to prove yourself. we'll talk about the third book you're working on in a moment, but let's talk about the four hour body. the reason it did well is why? not because it had fancy charts
in the middle of the book. >> the reason i think it did well was that well perceived four hour work week, my obsession had always been physical tracking. always had tested both for sports and cognitive performances chemical cocktails training and protocols on myself and traveled the world doing this just because i was obsessed with it and recorded all my work since age 16 or so, methodically looking for patterns. the four hour body was a reflection of that. what the four hour work week provided me was a platform to then gain access to nasa researchers, professional coaches and athletes, pretty much anyone i wanted to reach out to i could get a return email from. i took full advantage of that and did everything under the sun. effectively what i said was
look, you guys don't have the time to be the guinea pig for every diet out there and let me do that four. i'll look at the clinical research, test it on hundreds of readers. >> this is not just a weight loss book, not just a body building book, not just a book about sexual techniques. >> swimming, running sleep it had every aspect of the human body if you wanted to optimize it. >> sort you're the if you fun defuns here. >> you not like i'm subjectively opining on this stuff, looking at journals that people hadn't taken the time to look at closely. to me, it's that to get good data and come to conclusions about these life-changing tools or approaches, you don't
necessarily have to attain your clinical study through the typical channels. you can get really valuable data in hours. >> with that data, what did you conclude? i'll back up by saying this. it seems there's a thread between both books that is just taking things that seem big and breaking them down intoability size pieces where small things can have a big impact? >> yeah. >> what are some relating to your health and body most impactful that folks watching can take away. >> i can give a bunch. for instance, my dad lost more than 100 pounds of fat. where you want to start with any perceivably large -- losing weight people think of sacrificial activity, i would say number one, don't exercise. if you're not, don't focus on exercised. i know it's exercise, but focus
on diet. if you try to add two new behaviors, you will fail 99 times out of 100. focus on the diet. change your breakfast. that's the only thing i want people to do. get 30 grams of protein in 30 minutes of waking. when my dad did that, it worked. >> doing nothing else. >> nothing else than taking a shake that provided him with 42 grams of protein. you can use a ideally, but the combination of eggs, whole eggs are fine, eggs, lentils and spinach, which takes three minutes to make, that particular breakfast is very good for accelerating fat loss and increasing muscular gain. so that would be one. second would be for coffee, for instance a lot of people drink coffee. instead of putting skim milk or a sweetener artificial sweeteners into your coffee
which spike insulin levels, particularly splen da is one you should steer away from. instead of that, use whole fat cream. it's the lactose in milk. >> whole pat cream. >> 100% fat, and use if you're going to use, if you need it, my recommendation would be to try one or two-teaspoons or tablespoons of cream in your coffee instead of milk and instead of a sweetener try cinnamon, you'll get used to it quickly. people making that one change, you'll see two to four pounds of additional fat loss per week, because when you spike your insulin and like cream mate and things like that are even worse that that spike in insulin and effects on glucose can last hours and hours and hours. if you're having two cups of coffee a day and doing that, just by fixing that one tiny
thing, you can potentially lose 15-20 pounds in a month. doesn't happen for everyone, nor should it, but it is very common. if you're going to go on any diet you view at strict in any respect, take one day a week and go ballistic and eat whatever you want. saturday is my day. i really enjoy my cheat i love it. we live in san francisco, this is a foodie city, pasta pizza one day a week. you do far less damage than if you spread it out. by spiking calories once a week in that way you also help to prevent a lot of the down regulation sort of down shifting of thyroid and so on that happens to people very commonly to people who restrict calories.
i think you shouldn't restrict calories at all just pick your sources carefully. >> you pick ingredients mashed them together, come out with a new book called the four hour. >> chef. >> and you're a world class chef grew up passionate in the kitchen helping mom and dad. >> i've hated cooking my entire life. i have been horrible at cooking my entire life, and that's fart of the reason i wanted to do it. as one of my friends put it, he said finally, tim ferriss naked not literally naked maybe his future book, but the four hour chef is me instead of explaining something that i have spent 10 years looking at it's like all right, let me start from scratch and i'll try to distill and acquire this complex skill and show you how i tackle it. in the book, i will be, if hour
novice and want to learn to cook amazingly well in a novel way, i realize it is a big statement but i have digested thousands of books, i've looked everywhere. there are a lot of amazing cookbooks that are written for cooks. there are very few books that teach the techniques of cooking in a logical way. secondly the sub titled book is the simple path to learning to cook like a pro to cooking like a pro learning any skill that's a larger front and living the good life. the book of like zen of motorcycle maintenance. it will teach you to cook some amazing stuff and how to tackle any cuisine but also show you how to learn japanese, how to shoot three-pointers in basketball, how to do just about anything, how to acquire complex skills in record time. how to make it to world class
top 5% in less than six months in any skill. i realize it's a big big promise, but this is what i'm good at. i am good as acquiring skills. it's because i have a process. i couldn't learn spanish in high school. i couldn't learn spanish in junior hi. >> you speak how many languages? >> five. >> it's a book about. >> about learning how to learn. i will teach you in two months or less, less than or equal to four hours of total prep time how to acquire all the principle techniques of the major culinary tradition in the world. >> i've got nine restaurants. i'm in the restaurant business. i'm looking forward to this. i'm going to challenge you on this. >> i'm ready. >> i want to see how quality you are in terms of the kitchen, if you are producing actually good things. tim, it's good to have you here.
the real world and politics collide on "the gavin newsom show." this week director philip kaufman asks "is war the ultimate aphrodisiac?" find out on "the gavin newsom show." only on current tv. >> her bosses called it c.b. radio. fronted and centered, this time covering all things digital. kara, welcome to the show. you were there during the dot com boom. >> yes. >> you've seen the promotion the promise and the short comessings. where are we going now? >> it's amazing when you think
about how far we've come. this is only the mid-90's when it really got started early 90's really. in a lot of ways we're far along with people adapting to a quick cell phone. >> this phone in your hands is more powerful than any computer you used 20 years ago. it's link said to the world. people don't understand the significance of that. i was walking with my kids in los angeles a pay phone and my kids are like what's that? they don't have a conception of a world that isn't internet accessible where they can't pull down any movie they want. >> there are kids, i think we've all had the experience of your son going to the t.v. and
punching it. >> he kept hitting the t.v. and he said mom there's something -- the t.v.'s broken. it was the old paradigm of a person sitting back and not being immersed in the experience is over, the couch potato is now a couch potato but gets to interact. >> where you see, is this, we have seen exponential changes in technology or do we always talk in those terms. we talked about the game-changing technology in 1994 1997, are things changing at a speeding rate? the car hasn't changed that much considering there's a lot going on in car technology, most time to do with internet accessible carsar self driving cars, but most of the technology used, the refrigerator hasn't changed that much. the internet has changed so drastically in terms of killing
the book industry, people are downloading books, the television industry, it moves from industry to industry, how we socialize with each other. the post office is in a great deal of trouble. it's been decimating industries. i think it's going to be faster with the smart phone introduction when it gets to 100%. >> you think the day of the old laptop computer is over? >> it's so funny when you think about it. google just introduced google glass where you wear them and the world becomes computerized through your glasses. >> them a few weeks ago. >> the concept is big. i think it's a bigger concept. the idea of information in front of you in a way. >> and eventually, i imagine it will be contact lenses. >> something like that. >> you won't even know. >> it has to be, or there will be no data or people. >> no test taking, you'll have
all the answers to the test. >> i think you look real nerdy in them. >> i put them on. >> you'd look good in them. >> the tablets are just astonishing. >> google comes out with a tab let. is that a real threat to apple. >> not at this point. they've tried before. everybody asks like every new thing hasn't happened, no one's been able to catch the apple products in terms of profits. that's the really important thing. in terms of numbers probably, but in terms of impact, no. >> where is apple 10 years from now, leading edge? >> i have no idea. that's part of is a really specific c.e.o. and the team is the same that's brought apple this far. they certainly have an edge in a lot of areas but can lose that very quickly. >> let's talk about h.p. >> i was just going to say
a.o.l. >> is h.p. going the way of gateway and wang? >> it's a huge ship to turn around. the stock is at all time lows. they have a vision direction problem, a huge company. these tech companies can go very quickly and people, what's amazion was something like oracle or microsoft has been around a long time. even microsoft has a lot of challenges. >> is microsoft survive with all of these game changing technologies and ability now for people to go on these sites and scale technology with the ways we never could in the past, meaning the high arc typal top down. >> that's fine, they are introducing their own tablets going the apple direction. another large, large company. i think the question is are we going to have all these big companies going forward is there going to be a lot of
smaller companies. >> next i.p.o. that will be, what are you anticipating? >> facebook can slow down the market rather quickly. i don't know of all of them. there are several in the pipeline, but there's nothing you know twitter i suppose, but i expect it to sell before that. >> what do you think you'll be walking past and gazing upon in 5-10 years. >> embedded in people, embedded in cars. people make fun of the driving car, but i think it's a smart idea, a big idea. one of the problems i have with technology now in general is there's a lot of big minds with small ideas word building farms taking pictures and putting filters on them, all fantastic things, but they're not big ideas. the self driving car is a big idea. reforming health care would be a big idea. figuring out the problems around commuting and gas usage and
energy usage, big ideas. >> host overhyped product overhyped people in the valley? >> well, they're all overhyped. i am. i think the facebook c.e.o. and slapped oned head, now under hyped. it's a significant company. a lot of reporters went oh, the biggest i.p.o., it's going to be fantastic, is going swimmingly, when it fell apart a little bit they said we saw that coming and i was like not really. the idea of making billions of dollars on these things, it's still very difficult to build businesses on the internet. >> a boom, a potential bust coming? >> high, high evaluations for are yet unproven. not as bad as the first one, but certainly worrisome. they are competing for the deal, and you wonder if they're going to make their money back. they're having trouble in goop
on, facebook having trouble. i think investors are going to be quite wary about where it goes, how does it resolve itself once it gets funded. if google or microsoft or facebook doesn't buy them. >> thanks for being here. appreciate it. >> a glimpse of where we'll be in 2019 as in tell's futurist i it's go time! >>every weeknight cenk uygur calls out the mainstream media. >>the guys in the middle-class the guys at the lower-end got screwed again! i think you know which one we're talking about. >>overwhelming majority of the county says: "tax the rich don't go to war." i just wanted to clarify.
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>> intel's brian johnson is helping predict patterns to assess it is future, trying to assess which idea is surviving and how to use them. >> research at intel, you get a collection of technologies that are just coming out of the lab. i look at these things and we're looking at the human impact, at what it will mean to people, what it will feel like to live in the future. it's not just here's this chip or technology, we are creating and you have all these different dome mows to show what it will feel like to be a human 10 to oh 15 years from now. that's science fiction in a room. a car is a laptop on wheels. it's computational power that carries us around. that's the thing that we're looking at is saying how do we
think about the car as a computational platform. think about it as a computer. that's kind of cool. what happens when it's a computer, but the computer really can't crash? really technology is kind of dumb. your smart phone or laptop really today when you buy it doesn't learn about you. it has applications and allows you to do awesome things but doesn't learn about you specifically. i was laughing to myself and telling colleagues that i think seeing rain is going to make a big splash, it's literally seeing through water. seeing through a new type of headlight, but to say how could we modulate that so you could literally see through the reflections. rain so hard, is your banging light up against rain. what if we could use computational power and light to change that so you can see
through it. it sounds simple and insanely hard at the same time. the think i love about it, it makes people's lives better and also safer. >> brian, it's great to have you on the show. futurist at in tell. >> yes. >> science fiction writer and science fact writer. >> correct. >> what the heck is all that? >> well, i'm a very pragmatic futurist. my job is to look 10-15 years out and get an idea of what people will want to do with technology. i bring that back to intel and we design the technology. it takes 5-10 years to do it. what's been really interesting recently is we've been using science fiction as a way to help build those models and actually take that back to #-gs. >>intel. >> taking all those books that almost t.v. shows and movies like star trek and taking some of those principles and trying to manifest some of those ideas
and ideals from science fiction and now having an iteration into the future? >> it's some of that. for decades, people have used science fiction as a way to inspire them. what we're trying to do is to actually create signs fiction actually write science fiction based upon the stuff that we're building. kind of a way to prototype the future. if you write a story based on science, then you can kind of understand the human impact, the cultural impact, policy impact. it's a powerful tool to get people to envision the future. >> your foundation is around people people first not technology leading behavior, but an throw polling. you actually focus on culture from an an anthropological frame. >> understanding humans, first and foremost, and then, we've
got all this technology in our labs. we ask ourselves if we understand this about people, how can we use this technology to make their lives better. that's the foundation, based on people first and foremost. technology by itself, data by itself is meaningless until it makes lives better. >> you've got a great product today that will be on the market in 2016? >> i'm working on 2019 right now. >> what do those products look like that let's just jump right into it what are you working on? >> the future is awesome. >> is it? is that smoke and mirrors or is the future scary. is there any privacy in the future you're building? >> i think there is. i'm going to have to sort that i am a complete opt mist. it's probably the most radical thing i've ever done is to
declare myself an apartment mist. you make a choice, you can be optimistic or pessimistic. i say the future's too important for us to be pessimistic about. i say we're going to build this future so we need to have those conversations about that future. is there privacy? well, that's up to us. the technology of the future doesn't build itself. it's up to us to have conversations and to say this is the future we want, this is the future we don't want. that's why having these sorts of conversations are important to get out there and say what are we like, what are we not like. people need to be active participants. >> you wrote a book talking about the idea that the t.v. box now becoming a screen. >> yes the idea, this is looking to around 2015, saying it's not going to be about the p.c. for the internet and t.v. for phone for the phone it's screens. everything is going to be a screen. to think about well, this smart phone is a t.v.
it's also a phone. it's also a computer. thinking about it as a screen, and different sized screens that fit to our lives. for so long, we had to go to the laptop to get the internet and t.v. to get the t.v. not anymore. you can go to these devices and they change to what you want, kind of change to what you're sort of looking for. that is incredible. it's about not one device to rule them all but whatever device you have handy whatever devices you have together. >> customization personalization. >> always bet on choice. choice always wins. >> t.v.'s of the future look like what? >> just a screen. i think it's a screen and a way of interacting with that screen. >> when you say screen and you keep saying screens, is it a screen on the wall, is it a screen, i mean you make the point it carries with you i guess, on demand but the traditional model of the t.v. in the literal sort of the dominant
point of the living room, those days are over? >> no, having a screen on the wall in the living room, the reason that won't go anywhere is that people love t.v. it's one of the things we forget especially in the high tech industry, it's all cool and whiz bang, people love to sit down and watch t.v. that's cool. we don't want to change that. we want to give more choice with the t.v. they watch, how they interact with that t.v. that will continue to change, but voice over, just call up a program, i'd like to watch current tv. >> there are really great technologies where you can say to your smart phone i want to watch gavin's show and it comes up. what you said is i want to watch gavin and it came up. i remember when there were two remote controls, two or three stations and i had to walk up and turn it. >> then it would go all you
black after watching creature feature when the parents were asleep. >> when you think about that, that's huge, but sort of beloved feeling of watching television, sitting around with people, television is social. that doesn't go away. it just continues to evolve and moves off the wall sometimes and into our pocket so if you're on the bus on the mass transit you can pull it out and you can watch television here or you can watch television wherever you want. it's that customization but for what people want. >> synthetic biology hearing a lot about it. >> yeah. >> pretty extraordinary things, the idea that people are able to and i think today some of this already occurs, to actually have body parts that are what, being designed. >> designed. whole idea is d.n.a., our genes are the code of life, like
programming, so like the code that's in your computer is the same thing. the only thing is this code of life is incredibly complicated and we don't understand everything about it. synthetic biology is saying let's understand that and see if we can write our own code. when i think about it, i say that's cool. i mean i'm a science fiction guy. we can geek out about that but then i say what can we do with it. what are the applications to make people's lives better. when i talk to synthetic biologists, they come up with cool, simple stuff. what if you duke the genes and d.n.a. of something like grass and combined it with something that when it detected gunpowder or t.n.t., it made that grass turn yellow. that's all it did, and then i planted that grass in a mine field and you would see exactly where all the mines were. really simple, pragmatic when we think about synthetic biology, we think about far off
future stuff. that's great but what can we do today, tomorrow, next year to start finding those little things that we can do to really, really make people safer and happier and really make their lives better. >> augustment in reality the blurring between virtual and physical, what's the future there? >> i think it's coming. i think we're at a really interesting point. i saw you with the google glasses. you should be able to tell me. i haven't put them on yet. there are reflection points on that because we're almost there. before it had been you put on the big helmet with the big thing and walk around and that was weird cool thing but weird. we're now getting our devices to the point where we played around with it with the theoretical and now google great work they are doing and other places. now we can see when i'm talking to you do i really want all this information, all these things about me. maybe, maybe not we really augustmented reality is starting to grow up.
it's getting to the point to say what can we do number one so that people can be safer and we can use it in work, but the other thing, what's cool, because i don't think we know yet. >> what's the future of robots? >> robots are awesome. i'm a died in the wool geek. for me i think about robots as computational platform. what i mean by that, you're probably very comfortable carrying around a computational device. for me, it carries itself around, a laptop with legs. when you think about it, it can do really amazing stuff because then you can have an app store for robots to do all these different things. for me, the real short term future is things like health care. like we can use personal robots to help us age in our homes because they can be a could not
do it for the health care system, for our family. i don't know if you've ever taken care of an elderly relative but there's this terrible point where do you that sometimes and you call them and they don't answer the phone. you have to make the decision did they forget the phone and go to the market or did something happen. you have to go there. very hard on a health care system that is very expensive. what if you could tell the phone to go find them and check up on them. it becomes a way for people to have a relationship with technology for aging in our homes. that's much more preferral. we're going to have so much more of a graying population that we need to use technology and get creative about that. we can have robots helping us. >> when people talk about computers and fabrics when people talk about computers literally in the materials that we're sitting on, chairs, on desks, in book, in paper, with the idea being computerized, is this science
fiction, science fact. >> that's science fact. that's coming. so, and this is owe we talked about 2015 and all the screens and stuff like that. looking further out with a lot of the work we're doing, the size of the chips, the size of the computational power, when you get around the year 2020 approaches zero, it gets so small that it's almost in visible. it's still there but it gets so small that we could turn anything into a computer. we could turn this, we could turn that, we could turn our clothes into a computer, and it's coming. that's the idea. the question that i ask myself and my team is what is it like to live in an environment when you're surrounded by intelligence essentially living inside a big computer. what would you do with that? before, it was can we take this desktop computer and get it into a laptop. can we get a laptop your
packet. whatnot we do it. now the question is what, what do you want it to do, how do you want it to live with you in your lives, which is a fundamental shift that you'll see starting to come and then my response to that is how will it make people's lives better. that's the question we always have to ask ourselves. that's the base question. not how do we make ourselves more efficient or happier, how can we fundamentally make people's lives better. >> on that note, thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> when we come back, why we can live like the jetsons and charting a path to our own future in mind and body. start you morning with a daily dose of politics from a fresh perspective. >>i'm a slutty bob hope. the troops love me. >>only on current tv.
>> take almost any industry, health care, technology, energy and see the devices and techniques barely dreamed of a few decades ago. predicting the future has long been around for science fiction but when every industry is constantly revamped by technology, we must rely on modern visionaries to help us plan for the future. it's visionaries like my guests today that help provide a road map for our future, a framework for what is possible so that society, industry and government can prepare themselves as best they can. government can be a major boost for innovation and emerging technologies crafting policy that supports new ideas and entrepreneurialism, but keep the best interest always of people in mind. that means insuring privacy is
paramount. technology was biased purely on advancement, smarter faster, cheaper. we're learning with global climate change there can be consequences, as computers become smaller a understand more powerful, we need thought leaders who will consider the implications of this power. brian, david johnson and kara fisher are two individuals who should be listened to, they have a sixth sense for what's coming, both good and bad. as tim ferriss demonstrates, he questions the real point of this increased efficiency. i hope you continue to watch the show and hope to continue this conversation. stay with us on our website facebook twitter and google plus. thanks for watching the show. >> this court has proven to be the knowing,