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poster of the president. if you have anything to be posted to us, send it to us, thanks for joining us have a great night. see you tomorrow 3 s." we've got a great show ahead for you tonight. mitt romney goes racially. >> it's a very strange and in some respects foreto the american experience type of philosophy. >> cenk: i wonder what he meant by that. i give you four more quotes just like that. and then we've got massive street protests in the happiest place on earth. >> the police are moving in. all of a sudden anaheim where disneyland is has become a bit of a ticking time bomb. protests after protests. cops shooting civilians. it's getting ugly over there. we'll show you what is happening. speaking of ugly, one of the
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world's worst pranks shows how divided the middle east is. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] >> cenk: that's a gut wrenching story. really important. we'll talk about all that. anybody know what time it is? anybody? oh right go time. >> cenk: all right, so mitt romney has been playing defense a lot. release your tax returns off-shore banks accounts. the team has decided to go on offense in a curious way. they're in the u.k. doing this foreign trip and one of his unnamed advisers tells the press over in the united king this. we are part of an angelo saxon
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heritage, and he feels that the special relationship is special referring to mitt romney. the white house didn't fully appreciate the shared history we have. now look, if you take this sentence, it's not so bad. but when you connect it to the anglo saxon heritage that apparently president obama doesn't have. when it was written up, the romney campaign said, oh, that looks really ugly. what did you really say? we're not going to tell you. maybe one of the advisers mexico spoke. misspoke. but look at what romney said on monday of this week. >> this is an odd ideology that we are the same here and give to one another and achievement
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individual initiative and success is not to be rewarded as it has been in the past. it's a strange and foreign to the american experience type of philosophy. >> foreign to the american experience philosophy. okay, that's two of them. if that was all maybe not. but here is charles sanunu on television. >> he has no idea how the american system functions and we shouldn't be surprised about that because he spent his early years in hawai'i, smoking something, spent the next set of years in indonesia, and another set of years in indonesia. frankly when he came to the u.s. he worked as a community organizer, which is a socialized structure, and then got into politics in chicago. >> cenk: hawai'i, indonesia, indonesia, did i tell that you he was in a different country at one point and does not understand angelo saxon
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heritage. that's interesting. on the same day talking to reporters in a conference call also said this if it weren't clear enough. i wish this president would learn how to be an american. was that clear enough for you? again, that looks so you wily that they had to come back and say, well, we didn't mean it that way. we meant it to be ugly but not perfectly clear so you couldn't accuse of us being racist. on july 17th, how about mitt romney. what did he say? he had this quote to say about president obama's economic policy. obama's course is extraordinarily foreign. golly gee, we just keep happen to use those words foreign he's not one of us angelo saxon what do you mean, us, racist? that just might be racialist. apparently the white house has had enough. they send joe biden down to discuss what was presented in
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the telephone about the anglo saxon heritage. this is what was said. the comments reported this morning are a disturbing start to though mitt romney's readiness to on the world stage. i love the response. they say back to the vice president, let me finish the quote. biden goes on to say not surprisingly, this is just another feeble attempt by the romney campaign to score political points at the expense of this critical partnership this assertion is beneath the presidential campaign. they always say that. they'll get back and let me see the response from the romney team. today the race for the highest office in our land was diminished to a sad level when the vice president of the united states used an anonymous and false quote from a foreign
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newspaper to prop up their flailing campaign. once again the word foreign. of course it was not like it was the dubai times. it's the telegraph in the u.k. the country that they just said we have a special relationship with that obama doesn't understand about. they use every opportunity to paint obama as the other as someone different from you, as someone who is not part of our anglo saxon heritage. okay, this is how you go dirty. let me bring in the notebook legendary reporter for buzzfeed and rolling stone, michael hastings. talk to me about biden for a second. why go out and bother to respond to this stuff? >> sure, okay, so the obama campaign at this stage we're four years in. we're used to these attacks on the background, trying to say that he's not an american.
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questioning where he was born. we knows drill he's from kenya etc. etc. most of the time they ignore the attacks. what happened here was the angelo saxon comment seemed to get traction in the main treatmentmainstreampress. they had to bring vice president biden to stamp this down before it went viral before it jumped to the french press and became a talking point. by coming out now strongly against the angelo saxon thing it puts the romney camp in an embarrassing position where they may want to avoid these racially charged attacks. >> cenk: all right now what is the romney camp's point here? do they think that, hey if we just lock up the racist vote we'll be set? don't they already have that vote locked up? >> look, part of it--part of the issue is that romney's narrative for why he wants to be president is based largely on this idea of
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what it means to be an american. that's what he's trying to sell us right? he's trying to sell us that he is in some way more american than president obama. you saw that yesterday in his speech at the vfw if he said if you don't believe that america should not be the strongest country in the world i should not be your president. the narrative, getting into policies is not something that romney wants to do. the entire narrative that they're pushing is president obama is unamerican. >> cenk: so, what do we think? is that an effective strategy? is that going to turn off some independents. after four years of knowing this president to all of a sudden go, hey, maybe he's not american enough. i don't know, do you think it will work? >> senior obama officials told me just a few days ago that the romney strategy is to tear obama down. that's the basis for their strategy. as one of thigh colleagues said,
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it's attack and destruct. it's not the detail, substantive issues but tearing president obama down. that's what they're going to do. it's been a prolonged campaign, and they're going to continue. i think we're going to see more of these kinds racially motivated attacks as it gets closer to election day. >> right, i see what you're saying part of the strategy is to go on the offense no matter how you do it so that you're not playing defense any more as he was with tax returns etc. that's fascinating. >> they switched around a little bit. they tried to get past that by attacking the origins of the president. >> cenk: right michael hastings. thank you for joining us as always. >> thanks for having me. >> cenk: when we come back we'll do a couple of stories for you guys. first of all apparently james holmes, the gunman in colorado, had sent a note to his psychiatrist. what was in it? >> the report saying that the notebook was filled withdrawings of what he was going to do,
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illustrations of the massacre that was to come. >> cenk: is this a mental health issue? we'll discuss that well. a very disturbing prank in egypt leads to a discussion of how divided the middle east really is. [ bleep ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] >>(narrator) the sheriff of wall street. >>the leadership of high finance just doesn't get it. >>(narrator) the former governor of new york, eliot spitzer is on current tv. >>somebody somewhere can listen, record, track, gather this data. >>arrangements were made. >>(narrator) independent unflinching. >>there is a wild west quality to it that permits them to do whatever they wish. >>(narrator) and above all politically direct. >>facts are stubborn things.
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quoteing a law enforcement source the report saying that the notebook was filled withdrawings illustrations of the massacre that was to come. among the pictures in the spiral-bound notebook, gun-wielding stick figures shooting other stick figures. >> cenk: all right the man is obviously disturbed. we'll talk to steve cohen about that issue but i want to give you more on this gun control issue. everybody says there is nothing we can do because gun control is not popular in the country. we talked to you about it yesterday, and we'll give you more numbers. mayors against illegal guns did a poll done by frank lunce. they found out 74% of nra members agree with criminal background checks. reasonable gun regulation. 74%. that's nra members. we talk about all gun owners, it jumps to 87% supporting criminal background checks.
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we're not even including the non-gun owners. those are overwhelming numbers saying we need reasonable gun control legislation in this country. mayor bloom bloomberg added to that saying why has congress never even held a vote on the bill called the fix gun checks act. it's hard to argue with mayor bloomberg on this issue. he's absolutely right. the opposite is happening and we have no regulation. what happened since the shooting? approved background checks for firearms is up 43%. that means 43% more weapons are being sold. everybody is thinking, if everybody has got a gone, i got to get a gun. some of this is because politicians might actually do something and do a check on guns. that's not going to happen. i don't where they got that crazy idea.
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no way are politicians doing anything along those lines which is really disturbing. do you remember after the gabrielle gifford shooting in arizona? guns sales went up 60%. we're all heading to the ok corral. this colorado shooting is the tip of the iceberg. we've had all these shoots, columbine virginia tech, gabrielle giffords etc., etc. it's not going to end. buying more guns is not going to help, it's going to hurt. i think we've all collectively lost our minds and we're going to the wild west. when it gets to certain people, why do they let them get guns. congressman cohen. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. talk to me about what congress is or is not doing about the mental health issue?
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>> well, in the past proposed bill they're cutting mental health funds by 13%. the ryan budget was going to make them into block grants. we know block grants is a way to destroy them. the senate bill which is hhs has the same funding as last year, and additional monies for block grants to make up for what the states are cutting because the states have been hurt in their economics because of the bush recession. so they're more more business tax related and tax related and you funds have gone down. machine willing released under the house proposal, and it's really wrong. instances like this and gabby giffords and other shootings should remind people of the mental health issues that hurt our physical health. while we're doing with our fiscal health, we oughting to it
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in a fiscally responsible fiscally aware manner and get the mentally ill get treatment and not let them go into theaters dressed as jokers and kill people or go into shopping centers and kill people and staff members and citizen. >> cenk: congressman cohen if we spend more money on mental health where are we going to get the extra money for the tax cuts for the rich. >> we certainly don't need the tax cuts for the rich. i understand why you ask that question. i'm sure the rich if they get their taxes will be jumping off buildings. they won't know what to do because some of their caviar won't be good. >> cenk: very week weak legislation
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four and a half guns bought every year in america. you cut mental health spending, you allow people who are mentally disturbed to get those guns easily. on the flip side republicans say there is nothing that can be done. i want to play a clip from mitt romney and get your response. >> this person should not have had any weapons, bombs and other devices, and it was illegal for him to have many of those things already. but he had them. so we can sometimes hope that just changing the law will make all bad things go away. it won't. changing the heart of the american people may well be what is essential to improve the lots of the american people. >> cenk: that's mitt romney today in london talking to brian williams there. he says, well, look, you got some things that were illegal any way. just don't try to enforce the laws? do we just give up and let all of these massacres happen over and over again. >> and if tinkerbell had fairy
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dust to sprinkle over the capital, all would be well. >> cenk: it seems like this is an excuse to say there is stuff any bill o'reilly is arguing for on fox news. is it an opportunity in some areas, especially in some urban areas where gun control is even more popular to say hey you know what, maybe it has become time to do something. >> well, it could in some open areas, and mayor bloomberg is talking about this. they could take some action, state legislatures is more difficult. the nra is very powerful, and they don't want any changes whatsoever in the gun laws.
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going back to an old "saturday night live" skit, it said, show me your gun. this was 20, 30 years ago. those kinds of times have come back. one minute on the floor i talked about this incident and gabrielle giffords and the need for more mental health funds to deal with it. speaker boehner spoke in 1994, '98 man. it was about a man who came to the capitol and was trying to kill a guard and bringing death to the capitol. he was mentally ill. the idea of cutting mental health is wrong. that's at least a place we should try to get some bipartisan support for mental health laws and law enforcement. we need more law enforcement to deal with these deranged people. so if governor romney thinks we just have to change the heart no you've got to have mental health clinics and law enforcement for the people that
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don't have the head or the heart to contour their conduct to that which they should do unto others. >> cenk: that seems far too reasonable of a point. thank you congressman. we appreciate it. as we go to the break here, let me say that mitt romney seemed to be insulting the american people saying there is something wrong with their heart? hum, i don't know. that seem questionable. when we come back we've got disaster happening in anaheim. that's of course the home of disneyland where it's supposed to be the happiest place on earth. lately it is anything but. >> anger in anaheim spills onto the streets in running battles between protesters and riot police. >> cenk: it has a heavy racial component as well. we'll tell you why that is happening when we come back. later in the program what happened to the republican
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(vo) now, it's your turn. (vo) connect with the young turks with cenk uygur. >> it's go time. >> the police are fireing salt in the street. >> four straight days of protest taking a violent turn fueled by anger over the deadly police shootings of two men over the weekend. >> cenk: 24 arrests, it's over two deadly shootings that happened over the weekend. one of 25-year-old manuel diaz, who was unarmed and shot in the
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head while he was on the ground. so you can see why they're significantly angry. we've got more reporting. >> anger in anaheim spills on the street between running battles between protesters and riot police. >> demonstrators through rocks as police tried to clear the streets. >> they were blocking intersections. >> protesters on anaheim boulevard, three warnings to disperse before shooting non- non-lethal pepper balls into the crowd as some protesters threw rocks, bottles with nails in it. >> cenk: jody armor said he has seen parallels between this and the 19 0s. this is getting scary. how about the police reaction? more reports on that as well. >> dramatic video as anaheim police officers fire beanbags and pepper spray and surrounded
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a crowd they say got out of hand saturday. the crowd was protesting the death of 25-year-old manuel diaz. the police shot him after he ran from them. all the while throwing unidentified objects. but it turns out he didn't have a weapon. >> the anaheim police department have blood on their hands. >> killing an innocent person. that's not right you know. >> cenk: obviously people are very upset about this. one of the reasons is the number of police-related death this is year. last year there was only four deaths well, only is a very relative number. this year already there have been five deaths. the anaheim population. that's an interesting story. 53% is latino. 28% is white. and 15% is asian. what is interesting also is that the local city council is all white. not a single latino on there. partly because the latino population has registered to
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vote at a lower rate. so that's a fascinating part of this story as well. they are very upset now because they don't think that the city council, the police and the city are hearing their concerns. let's hear about that. >> if your' mexican, bald headed, boom pull them over. why? because you're bald headed. you're a gang member. >> they think because they have a badge they can kill anybody they want to. >> we don't use our voices. we don't let them hear our voice, nothing will be changed. >> the police are trying the best that they can. but no organization is going to be perfect. >> cenk: now we're going to bring in a reporter, andrew gumble who was at the protest last night in anaheim. andrew, great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> cenk: talk to me about the scene last night in anaheim. how many people were there and how much area did it cover and then what happened to spur the police starting to shoot into the crowd with beanbags, etc.
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>> it started out with a protest of 500 people and it grew to about 1,000. there were incidents of escalate escalated violence. a chair was thrown through a starbucks. garbage set on fire. similar scenes on the lower level happened the previous few nights. the police came in hot and heavy and responded. there was a lot of anger in the crowd at the people who were doing the looting vandalizing people saying this is the wrong way to go. because you're angry we have to keep our tempers and let the justice system take it's court. there was one activists that wrestled one of the rioters to the ground. there is a lot of anger but a lot of anguish of what is going to happen with continuing protesters if this is not solved
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peaceful. >> i'm not sure if this protest and anger breaks out. it appears to me the context is incredibly important. what is the context that has got latinos so mad at the police and government? >> you're absolutely right. the best way to understand anaheim also as a de facto segregated city. you have the anaheim hills where most of the affluent white people live. you have disneyland, the number one corporate business concern. everything to do with the hotel industry around it. and the mentality has been we run the city. we cater to the business interests. we make sure to get the revenue from that, and we don't really pay attention to the majority population. the city is 53% latino, as you pointed out but they don't have district by district city elections. they have at large elections that means where the money and mobilization is, that's where the votes count. in practice there have been three latino city council members in the entire history of
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the city of anaheim. >> cenk: that's amazing. then when you take that and put on top of it, manuel diaz who was not armed. there was shooting at the cops. >> the second man on sunday was apparently armed. there was incident in the last two years that brought similar outraged and it did lead to wrongful death lawsuits. some gang that the anti-gang police were behaving as a death squad. they strike terror into people to deter them from committing serious crimes. but with petty crimes, there is a certain disregard. when people complain about crimes happening in the neighborhood in the flat lands the police are too slow. there is frustration that this is a city for the elite, by the elite. they don't care how many you havehow much peopleare being paid in the hotel
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industry and what happened in the nat lands where the majority of the people live. >> cenk: make sure that that economy keeps rolling and do whatever you got to do to keep the other part of town suppressed. diaz is shot in the leg. he goes to the ground. apparently he was shot in the head while on the ground. have the police talked about that at all? it seems like a justifiable that the community would be absolutely outraged about that. >> they have been tight-lipped about what exactly happened. there was a suggestion from the police unions that dias had something in his waistband that caused the police officers to be alarmed. but that does not answer the question of what the eyewitnesses saw. he was shot in the leg. he went down. he was no longer a threat to anyone, and still apparently the police officer shot him in the head and killed him. >> cenk: he was unarmed to begin with. considering him a threat is string. on the online show on "the young
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turks" we talked with others who had reports with what the cops from doing last night as well. >> one point where tim and i were just in the middle of the street photographing a dumpster that was on fire. there had been a fire truck blocking the middle of the streets. when that truck pulled away all of a sudden it revealed a wall of police officers that just started firing indiscriminately don't the street. [ gunfire ] >> what i think was most disturbing is that these officers were walking through residential areas in a wall just completely taking over the entire street and firing down these streets. you could see residents who were in their homes peering out their windows terrified. >> cenk: so andrew, did you get a sense whether the police were targeting their peppery in this case? now it's not live bullets but it is stuff that can cause tremendous damage whether it's the beanbags, the pepper spray, etc. etc. were they targeting specific
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individuals or shooting indiscriminately. >> i wasn't there to see that, but the culture of the anaheim police department has been, not dissimilar to the lapd was and perceived in the days of delegates and even before thatdarrellgates and even before that. the police were the security arm of the corporate interest of anaheim and they always understood their role to keep the problems at bay whatever it takes to do that. what makes this more complicated and i police chief is generally credited with being someone who talks about changing the culture of the police, doing more to respond to people's concerns. it appears there has been very limitedly successful in that. there are specific concerns about the anti-gang unit. it would appear what happened last night there were concerns about riot police. there is the really open question and i heard this from many people in high my reporting
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whether or not the police chief is in sympathy of. he's saying the right things and calming people down, but what thethey saw from officers on the streets tells a different story. >> cenk: thank you, i appreciate it. when we come back, back to politics, and ron paul with a surprising victory one that i totally agree with. we'll talk about that when we come back. >> you don't have to get pushed around. if they're not following the rules, you have a right to stand up for the rules. >> we talk a lot about the influence of money in politics. it is the defining issue of this era. the candidate with the most money does win. this is a national crisis.
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in egypt that does the world's worst pranks. they bring people in and put them in a situation that often goes violent. great idea. this is an egyptian interview and then at some point during the interview they switch it, and he starts to think that it's going on israeli tv. now you and i might think so what? that is not the reaction that he has. let's begin to watch this. [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> cenk: all right he's just getting warmed up. see what he does next. in order to talk about this in the proper context we brought in folks, we have noreen mustafa one of our producers and who
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happens to be egyptian, and ben mankiewicz is with us as well. let's watch this where he loses it and understand he finds it a grave offense that he's going to be on israeli tv and he takes on the producer and the reporter. it gets ugly. let's watch. [ . [ speaking in a foreign language >> the guy >> cenk: the guy has a gun on top. here comes trouble.
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>> cenk: you can see him reaching for the gun there. now this is when they tell him it's a prank ha-ha. >> cenk: he finally believes it's a prank. realizing that he hit an egyptian woman. [applause] >> that was really good. >> cenk: that was the least funny prank in the history of mankind. and then he says to her almost rub it in, you know you had it coming. >> you brought it on yourself. >> cenk: i tall you were an israeli woman so obviously i hit you. when you see that it makes your
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stomach turn. tell me why they will flip out. >> it's actually a big deal. i'm not surprised by the anti-semitism. any egyptian is linked to israel in any way it's the end of their career, whatever industry they're in. especially actors and entertainers. if you're on an israeli television, that's it. >> i knew it was bad but i didn't know it was that bad. apparently they do this every time and the reactions are very similar. >> this is the most violent although another time an egyptian actor grabbed the host's head or producer, and dragged him around the room and kicked him in the head. >> there is a history in egyptian of extreme pranks on shows, not just about israelis, but kidnappings at gunpoint. >> cenk: they need to work on their anti-semitism and pranks. >> i learned two things. one, we don't have the worse reality tv in the world.
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>> cenk: congratulations to us. >> comforting. also that egypt's fashion revolution has yet to get under way. >> cenk: that guy reminded me of a b grade version of silvio of the sopranos. you say i'm on israeli tv? >> apparently. i'm amazed he was on any tv when he chose that jacket in the morning. >> cenk: as disturbing as this is, there is one element at the end where it gets worse in a different way. watch here e-7. >> cenk: wow, after hitting her he invites her back to rub lotion on her. like this guy couldn't get creepy enough. >> he keeps the lotion in the
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car. who keeps lotion in the car. >> cenk: that's fascinating. seriously, in the last minute, as i looked at this i got depressed. this is more deep seeded than even i realized. >> we've talked about it a lot. there is a saying that jews who don't want to make peace with the syrians, the palestinians, certainly with the iranians, they say they want to eradicate israel from the face of the earth. it stops the conversation there. they will see this and say, see told you. what's the point. these people want us dead. >> cenk: i hear you on that, but at the same time i feel like both sides are at such a point that as i watch that, we're not going to move these folks. >> that's what i'm saying. people see that and people dig in even more. >> i think you're underestimating how practical egyptians are. they understand that they get money from the u.s. government
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because of the peace deal. they may not like it, they feel like it's being shoved down their throats they understand and egypt will not be attacking israel soon. >> cenk: they kept the peace for 30 years with this peace deal, but it seems like it never changed anybody's mind. >> not at all. the average egyptian never felt that $1.3 billion improved their lives at all. it's never been sold to them. what is the point of the peace deal. what do we get out of it. >> the actors said that was the politicians deal to make peace. the people, we didn't make peace. just the politician as soon as that is really, really scary. it looks like peace in the middle east is further than we imagined. noreen and ben, thank you. i want to show a witch-hunt against muslims in this country. that's a powerful story. some of it is by the nypd.
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