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s obscenity. they will not have it. rick santorum, candidate on the republican said this, the obama administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to enforce obscenity laws. well while the obama department of justice seems to favor porners over children and families, that will change under a santorum administration. god, they will not have this kind of sexual depravity, right?
wrong. the businesses in tampa that are most look forward to the republicans coming to town for the convention are the strip clubs. they not only expect business to quadruple, they think it will do four times as well over super bowl weekend. more over super bowl weekend significantly so. it's amazing. here is the report on it. >> across town the doll house does not have webcam but they plan to cash in on the big event. >> i'm excited. i know there are going to be so many people. it will be a busy and a fun time to work 12,347 fun and profitable. the club got a $1 million facelift just in time. >> very famous person, sarah palin, she's a dead ringer look-alike. >> cenk: fun for everybody especially the republicans apparently. according to the association of
club executives, now that's the people representing the industry well, when republicanners come to town they spend on average $150. democrats are cheapskates and only spend $50 a per. republicans are much better for business and there is the famous study by the harvard school about the top ten states for porn adult side membership. eight of them were red says. utah oklahoma, arrest arrest, louisiana, alabama, west virginia north dakota and alaska. one of the people who run the strip clubs in atlanta is joining us. he is don great to have you here. >> hey, cenk, how are you great to be here. >> i met tampa. >> yeah, we're actually in tampa, not atlanta.
>> cenk: there are republicans in atlanta and i'm sure they love strip clubs too. don, talk to me about this. what are your expectations for business when the republicans come into town and what is it based on? >> the best thing we can go by is the adult club associations and talking to our cohorts in the business and people that we also know who have clubs in the denver area. when the convention last went to denver the numbers they claimed were three to four times what a typical number would be. that's pretty much what we're working from. >> cenk: now why do you think republicans spend more money on strippers than democrats. >> it may be because they have the money. >> cenk: it may be what? >> i believe that maybe the republicans would maybe have a little more money than the democrats. >> cenk: yeah, that makes sense. i thought they were all about family values. that's weird. you do something different at your club. you have a webcam thing going
on. now aren't the republicans going to be worried that their family assets are going to be tracked when they're chatting with these girls at $4 a minute? >> what we found that they can jump online and take a look at the club before getting there. from what we've seen in the last three months if that's a tale tell sign we've already been contacted by a lot of camps. they want to know about private and vip entrances and if they can get online to see the club prior to the siting, that would be the club to go. apparently they're not worried about being online to take a look. >> cenk: that's fascinating. i believe it was you who was quoted in an article about the promise keepers. those are the guys who are totally conservative, and they have to keep their promises to their wives. they didn't come to your strip clubs, did they? >> cenk, i got to tell you. that was a weekend we will never forget. we stay in touch on an hourly basis and the managers contacted
me and told me what the numbers were. i said what is going on, a convention downtown? we happen to be three blocks away from the main stadium here in tampa. it was the promise keepers a sold out promise keepers 60,000 to 70,000 member convention. the promise keepers who were keeping promises made to their wives. they showed up at the door with their promise keeper badges for the convention. it pretty well blew our minds. [ chuckling ] >> and they made us promise. they came back the next night. so it was pretty amazing numbers. pretty amazeing into one of your competitors bringing in this woman, lisa ana who has starred in a series called" called "nailen
palin." let's take a look at the quality of movie she's making. [ door bell ] >> who could that be? >> we were wondering if we could use your phone to call the kremlin. >> i'm sorry fellas. i don't speak russian. well, in the spirit of foreign relations i'm sure there is no harm in letting the two of you in. >> cenk: oh, that's good cinema. [ chuckling ] what are you going to do to compete? are you going to bring in any other look-alikes? michelle bachmann? mitt romney for the ladies? >> well, from my understanding sarah herself has not been invited to the convention. maybe we'll throw an invitation out to her and get her here in person. we have a spaceship on the roof. it's been there for 50 years. it's in a prime location and we typically don't bring the
features in. it's a landmark in and of itself. people find us and they love the place. we don't have any special features other than entertainers. we have entertainers who contact us all over the country, coming in from vegas new york. >> cenk: i'm sure governor palin will turn that down. but if you have a spaceship newt gringrich may be interested. spaceship and strippers, no way he's going to turn that down. don, thank you for joining us. >> thank you cenk. >> cenk: when we come back, we've got an aggressive progressive that is going to talk about whether business men build businesses on their own. i have a personal story i about my dad i want to tell you about. but there is a tragic story that is fascinating about rapists going online and admitting that they've done the rape. so should they be allowed to
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>> current tv, on the roll. (vo)followed by humor and politics with a west coast edge. >>it really is incredible. (vo)bill press and stephanie miller, current's morning news block. weekdays six to noon. into website read it as known for putting controversial things up, but boy this latest one takes the takes the cake. first they asked sexual assaults about their experiences. then they asked the opposite question, have you ever sexually assaulted someone? do you regret it? do you not regret it? and what motivated you? that sparked a controversial discussion. >> cenk, some of the things that were posted were very hideous. that's why this is such a controversial story. people are questioning whether or not reddit should allow them
to post things on their website. the administrators have not posted these things. their anonymous users who posted their experiences raping people. in one of the instances one anonymous user said i'm a muscular guy over six feet around 200 pounds and most of these girls may have been 125 to 130-pound. really tiny and easy to pin down. to be honest even remember it now the squirming made it better. they think you're a good guy and you should pick up on the hint. they don't want to have to say no and admit to themselves what is happening. if that wasn't bad enough another user wrote the following. i was a freshman and hooking up with this girl who got naked in bed with they and then said no. i think she just wanted to do it oral. i was extremely horny and already close to doing it, so i ignored her and did it. zed what was happening
and tried to camp her legs shut, but it was too late and i was much stronger than her. >> ana, as i hear that, of course it makes your stomach turn. so many of the guys who had written in talked about how the girls squirmed, and they liked it god, it's painful to watch. but bringing everyone in here, ben mankiewicz is going to join us later in the show. he's here. do we allow it or do we not allow it? is it kosher to have this discussion? is it helpful so we can see how they do it in order to prevent them? yes or no. >> as horrible as some of these posts are i think it's important to have a place online where people can share their stories. the two examples i gave you were the two most hideous accounts that i read on reddit. there were some stories of people who got really drunk at a party, and engaged in sexual activity not realizing that the person they were having sex with
was completely passed out. there is this gray area that people don't like to discuss because rape is such a difficult top to come discuss. i like that they're sharing their stories because it opens up a conversation about rape, a conversation that people don't generally like to talk about. >> what is your take? >> my take is i don't think there--i think there is some value here, you learn a couple of things. one there, are men out here who are calculated in the rape and assault of women and enjoy it. and then on the other hand as ana is talking about, it's more of a gray areas where guys go home with girls or take home girls that are intoxicated and legally can't give con sent. but what disgusts me is these guys get to come out on this forum and vent about what they did and in some cases relive the glory days of when they used to rape and assault women in college, and there is no consequence. the worse thing that can happen is they get a negative vote on reddit. the officials are not going to
go after them. it takes way too much manpower to pursue all these 13,000 comments. in some ways i think it's-- >> cenk: i hear that excuse, but on the other hand doesn't it make your job easier? you're assigned a case. the fbi should put people on this to say, comb through this, see if there are people who--and then assign it to different people. one more thing before i get to ben here, someone anonymously posted their perspective as a fefele here. eyeyayay i literallyerly justus reaea you erer all t tse p pts searching for my story, from my rapist's point of view. but as it would appear, he's either not a redditor or he has not admitted it. so instead now i have so many stories of others just ringing in my head. a stuff twisting stomach twisting with motion and feeling let down. >> i you think it's better that we know. imagine if this site was about
the sexual thrill that people got from blowing up federal buildings. the notion that the internet being completely open and a free exchange of ideas does not always apply. every cop in the country who is investigating assault for a live something going to want to prosecute this guy. i think some guy will at some point will leave a clue. there were a couple of things here where a crime was committed. if the cops had the opportunity to they will and they would but when it's posted on the internet you know how impossible it may be. >> cenk: it's difficult to find out if they're making this stuff up. >> and it's difficult from a processer prosecute toral tonight of view.
>> this encourages people to come forward, a lot of them don't report it. i hope that encourageses them to see that there are horrible people, who are you're right bragging about it. those people should be prosecuted and brought to justice. >> cenk: they all should prosecuted in any sexual assault case, but here when you see there is not a gray area for them. some of them knew what they were doing and loved it, etc. it makes you want to say that's it come on, let's go. we all got to get motivated to put an end to it. it's interesting and productive conversation as painful as it is. thank you, guys. when we come back i'll have a conversation with ben about newsroom. how realistic is it? and newsroom, is it sexist. we'll discuss that when we return. >> can i talk to you? >> sure
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: every monday we're doing a segment on hbo's new show "newsroom," and it's about the media. it's interesting to analyze the show, but also we want to analyze the state of the media and also tell you guys how realistic and how unrealistic it is because we're actually in a newsroom. we'll bring in ben mankiewicz. we'll start with the possible sexism in this episode. >> it's one of my favorite episodes there were moments of inspiration. we got to see jeff daniels'
character in greater death. he was with a therapist and there was non-linear storytelling as we've seen. that was effective and then there were the great moments. as you say is this show, is "newsroom" sexist? i really didn't see it until last night when i thought it was fairly glaring. the three principle female characters, one who has been an embedded journalist, and she comes in, and the producer, also a punch line. then there is this woman played by olivia, slow, she has been an economist. she's brilliant, speaks japanese, four degrees. last night she's offered to be able to angel arrest show and fill in. she essentially has to get bribed with clothes and then
commits--she behaves like a cheerleader to the quarterback. >> i can't host the show, don't be ridiculous. >> you host your show at 4:00. >> about financial news. >> you're expanding. >> i gained four freakin' pounds. >> no, professor. >> right expanding. >> sarah person heart. >> she's a good guy. >> i hate high life. >> if you want a wardrobe chain, we have gucci ready to send over some choices. >> gucci? >> a whole rack of choices. >> wow, can i touch your chest. >> sure. [ chuckling ] holy cow. >> i mean,. >> cenk: yeah, don't do it. i love it, but don't do t gucci. >> he has got the templates for these characters that are strong and powerful women and then behave in a way that i find inconceivable that that woman
would engage in that kind of behavior. >> i've had female executive producers. they don't sniffle. they don't get gum in their hair and they're strong. they don't cry in front of the staff. that's bothers me a little bit. but on the other hand, brilliant points about the media. >> let's go to the points that inspire. every week there are two three and in this case we have jeff danielss talking about what to do and not to do. he talks about what she does wrong on the show, the economic show that she hosts at 4:00. he basically says, and really passionate way challenge your guests. don't let them get away with lying. >> sloane, i watch your show at 4:00, and you're brilliant, but you let guests say things that i know you know aren't true, and then you move on. ask the damn follow up and then demonstrate with facts how the guests are lying. you can't be facilitating for
whatever. [ bleep ] they want to give. they're not there to plug a movie. you allow them to lie on your air. you may may not be a drug dealer, but you sure drive let them drive around in your car. >> you can't let people lie. you know there are values. people misrepresent a fact. >> cenk: i got to keep it real with the audience. unfortunately, for a lot of hosts they get notes from their producers before an interview and they read down the list. listen do what the guy is saying, if he's saying something that isn't true. your true is not to be neutral the job is to find out the truth. you know who did that among the best in the last 2008 cycle presidential cycle? katie couric. she got a lot of flack for it. watch her here with sarah palin. >> when it comes to establishing your world-view, i was curious what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before
you were tapped before this to stay informed and to understand-- >> i read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press and the media. >> which one specifically. >> all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years. >> any magazine. >> i have a vast variety of sources. >> cenk: that's the most logical follow-up question. they call that gotcha journalism. you know what kind of journalism that is? >> journalism. >> that sarah palin did was get herself. great job by katie couric. thank you, ben. we appreciate it. >> yes, of course. >> cenk: what is up next with eliot spitzer on "viewpoint" you ask? i asked the same thing. what's going on. >> eliot: yes, every night i try to answer you. the misadventures of mitt romney overseas. who can he offend today? this is one trip they may wish they had never taken.
i think he's collecting money. other than that not making anybody think that he's good diplomat. plus pennsylvania admits not a single piece of evidence that there is voter fraud. what do they do? try to disenfranchise hundreds of people. it will be a great converse. >> cenk: thank you eliot. >> eliot: thank you. >> cenk: when we come back, aggressive progressive segment on another set of lice that the romney campaign is telling us. don't miss it. >> that's what ticks me off more than anything. >> mr. president, unfortunately you have no idea. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >>(narrator) the sheriff of wall street. >>the leadership of high finance just doesn't get it. >>(narrator) the former governor of new york, eliot spitzer is on current tv. >>somebody somewhere can listen, record, track, gather this data. >>arrangements were made. >>(narrator) independent unflinching. >>there is a wild west quality to it that permits them to do whatever they wish. >>(narrator) and above all politically direct. >>facts are stubborn things.
you'll love peanut butter and snickers. try snickers peanut butter squared. 05 [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] now the republicans have been repeating a lie about how president obama said you didn't build that refer to go small business when in fact he was referring to roads and bridges and how we built that together through the government. we've shown shown that over and over again. undeterred, here they go again. >> he was trying to say hey you didn't build that business on your own the government helped you build it. that's what ticked me off more than anything. >> mr. president, unfortunately you have no idea how we here at midwestern ohio try to run a small business from daylight until night. >> cenk: that's dennis. well we do know how you run it. you get government contracts, of course let me show you they
got $915,000 contract from city school district. that would be the government. nearly $1.7 million contract from miami school district government and hundreds of thousand of dollars more in contracts from the government let me show you another small business owner. this is my dad. he did a great job building a business in new jersey. he took a delap tated building and turned it into the the center of town and he became the businessman of the year. i'm incredibly proud of him and he worked damn hard to do it. do you know what he wouldn't have if he didn't get the government to help pay for his education, he would be an olive farmer in turkey. the difference was free education that liberated him to produce all that.