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villaraigosa. >> cenk: i know what you're thinking. where can i get more "the young turks"? i'm glad you asked. tonight we have a whole other online show at young and if you go to the young you'll have more. >> i saw a blond woman thrash a bunch of guys on tv this morning and it took me an hour to realize it was hillary clinton and not "kill bill part one." and the first ceo of whole foods thought obama-care was socialism. now he thinks it's fascism. now the produce in his store the man likes to keep his ignorance fresh. thom hartmann joins us on this. and today is the birthday of
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l.a. mayor antonio villaraigosa, and late e street bande boardist dan dan and the guy who played macgyver and today is the 276th birthday of john hancock whose last words were, hey i didn't sign on for this. this is "viewpoint." >> good evening i'm john fugelsang. thank you some forgoing us tonight. the 216th presidential campaign kicked off today. just after president obama took a public oath of office to start his second term in the white house. today secretary of state hillary clinton testified for the second time before stepping down for well-deserved rest. the topic, of course, it was the
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the 2011 2011 benghazi attack in libya that killed four americans including ambassador stevens. they were waiting for hillary clinton so they could forward the love of chris christie that they hate. today secretary clinton was wrapping up her current job with this forth right testimony. >> as i have said many times i take responsibility, and nobody is more committed to getting this right. i am determined to leave the state department and our country safer, stronger and more secure. >> john: secretary clinton later gave way to a rare display of public emotion when she talked about the risk that men and women of the foreign service
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take for our country. >> for me this is not just a matter of policy. it's personal. i stood next to president obama as the marines carried those flag-draped caskets off the plane at andrews. i put my arms around the mothers and fathers the sisters and brothers, the sons and daughters, and the wives left alone to raise their children. >> john: but for some republicans the issue wasn't the sacrifice americans make overseas but performing a human sacrifice of what was left of susan rice's reputation. as you'll recall there were over 20 protests against americans in the middle east that day related to a video. her comments were based on talking points prepared and approved by u.s. intelligence officials. just don't tell that to senator john mccain. he may have to switch his anger button to off. >> the american people deserve
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to know answers and they certainly don't deserve false answers. the answers given to the american people on september 15th by the ambassador of the united nations were false. >> john: that's mccain still trying to win the respect of his own party. they were even more incensed over rice's alleged efforts to mislead the american public during an election year, no less to no apparent logical reason. >> again, we were misled there was supposedly protest and then something sprang out of that. an all the sprang out of that. that was easily ascertainable. that was not the fact and the american people could have known that for days. >> with all due respect the fact is we had four dead americans. whether it was because of a protest or because guys out for a walk and they decided to go kill some americans. what difference at this point does it make? it is our job to figure out what
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happened and do everything we can to prevent from ever happening again senator. >> john: illinois senator dick durbin was more direct in defense of ambassador rice and brought up a misleading comment that many would like to perfect. >> i think some of the criticism heaped on her was unfair. and did not reflect the fact that she was reporting the best information she had available at the time. i do want to make one point for the record here about whether the american people are told everything right away in the right way so that they can be fully informed? i would like to refer to five words for them to reflect on. iraqi weapons of mass destruction. >> john: scare yes words the george w. bush administration never apologized for which no one ever take responsibility for which didn't stop rand paul
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trying to make secretary hillary clinton personally responsible for benghazi when the board cleared her. >> i'm glad you're accepting responsibility. i think that all thely with your leaving you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11 i really mean that. had i been president at the time and i found that you did not read the cables from benghazi, you did not read the cables from ambassador stevens, i would have relieved you of your post. i think it's inexcuse cuesible. >> john: that's rand paul getting his in for 2016. i'm thrilled to be joined by tj crowley. thank you so much for joining us this evening. >> a through, john. >> john: i want to get your take on this. did these hearings seem to be more about what happened in four years than what happened in benghazi last fall?
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>> it's a mix. certainly as your clip showed, some senators and some representatives who just haven't got past september 15th. by the same token there were some from both parties who took the same forward-looking perspective that secretary clinton has and say what does benghazi tell us about the dynamic of the region and the danger of al-qaeda. how do you connect what happened to libya to what is happening in mali and recently in algeria? i think that's the kind of perspective that we need as we continue to sort through what happened. while she testified today, there is still many things that we don't know. particularly who did it and why they did it. that's still subject of the fbi investigation. >> john: as we just heard senator paul called secretary
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clinton's actions inexcusable and said she did not read her cables. >> any requests, any of the cables having to do with security did not come to my attention. 1.43 million cables come through the state department. they're all addressed to me. >> cenk: does that make sense to you? is that fair? >> sure, i've heard political hyperbole that suggests that the tragic death of four americans in benghazi rivals in some way to 9/11 in terms of its impact forgetting about afghanistan. 20,000 soldiers were dead. iraq where 4,000 soldiers died in service the country. i think it's ridiculous. i was an assistant secretary of state, and the secretary paid me and others of my colleagues to sort through information that came through our respective channels and report to her issues of significance and
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particularly issues that couldn't be resolveed at a lower level. i mean, obviously as the accountability review board indicated there were mistakes made. there were misjudgments made, and under estimations of the danger posed to chris stevens and others in benghazi, but these kinds of security decisions were made not in the floor where secretary clinton resides but at the sixth floor at my level and based on their professional expertise. >> john: i couldn't agree more, sir. a lot of watch watching had to recall in 2001 when warning bin laden's attacked in the u.s. that was ignored and we all know that condoleezza rice ended up being promoted. no one took responsibility. no one said the buck stops here. is it fair to say that some of our republican friends on the hill are hypocritical at worst
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and amnesia at best. >> i disagree with what you just said. yes, you know, there were warning signs prior to 9/11 just as they were warning signs prior to benghazi. i do not see that there was any one action that could have prevented what happened on-- >> john: which i'm not suggesting. >> and i think there were a combination of miscalculations made. by the same tone there was a question posed by a representative this afternoon from south carolina. i didn't like the contest that he put it, but he said what in the world was important that brought chris stevens to benghazi? that is a very important question. the answer was as we're working through a post-conflict very dangerous very unpredictable situation benghazi was important as we worked with the libyans to
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move them forward. the american government was there and the american people represented trying to help libyans advance. that's why chris stevens was there. he understood better than anybody else the dangers involved. this is something that we'll try to ur utmost in theture to mitigate but we'll never get the danger to zero. >> john: you heard her say that she took responsibility, something that we didn't hear in the previous administration after the 9/11 or the mds. >> i don't want to put as hillary clinton said today. we should not put this in a political lens. there were people who tried to score points, and they'll do so in the future. this is about what can we do to not only keep our diplomats and our soldiers safe, but also advance the interests of the united states around the world.
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this is dangerous business. we have to recognize--some of us say soldiers go to war they're in danger. what will diplomats? they're in danger, too. chris stevens was there serving the united states. they were in danger and they knew it and unfortunately tragically they gave their lives for our country. >> john: i certainly respect your point on that. i would like to play another sound bite from senator paul where he accuses secretary clinton for failing to fulfill her responsibilities at the highest level. >> i don't think you were willfully. i don't suspect your motives for wanting to serve serve your country. but it was a failure of leadership. >> john: was it a failure of leadership or is this the way
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that bureaucracy sends to work. >> it's the way the world operates. we've had embassies attacked many times in the past. we've made security improvements in many places around the world. but to emphasize again you can never ever totally eliminate the risk involved. you can do that but that means either we don't have diplomats in critical places where we need them, or they're there but they're staying behind tall walls and glass barriers and unable to function and unable to do what we expect them to do. in these post conflict situations there is still an enormous work to do in a lengthy period of time to do it. we attack these issues as a whole of government. in afghanistan today we have soldiers, we have diplomats, we have development experts agriculture experts legal experts, tomorrow they could
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step on a landmine, they could be kidnapped. they could be shot. that's the nature of warfare and conflict that we deal with in many places around the world. >> john: i would like to switch topics to yesterday's israeli's yesterday. it appears that benjamin netanyahu has the best chance of getting in. what do you think the results mean for the chances of restoring a palestinian-israeli peace process. >> he has difficult decisions to make. his coalition was the largest vote cutter, so he has the right to form a government. john he could move right he could move left. i don't know what he's going to do. but you're right the decision that he makes will say a lot about the policy options that he's going to pursue. if he moves right there is virtually no chance of a palestinian-peace progress. but if he moves left he'll have
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to make political concessions to form that kind of coalition. >> john: pj crowley sir, it's always such a bear to bear witness to your experience and wisdom. thank you for your time. >> thanks, john. >> john: thank you. with congress back in session it's time for an annual tradition that i always annuallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.
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you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time
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now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> john: i love democrats. shoot, we all do. but if there is one thing that democrats do really well, it's under cutting their own ideas. take for instance, raising the debt ceiling. something that everyone agrees need to be done. well, good news. by a vote of 285-144 today the house passed a bill raising the debt ceiling until may. but due to a provision that would withhold congressional pay if a budget isn't approved this year.
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111 democrats voted against raiding the debt ceiling calling that provision a gimmick. however, it goes well beyond the house. today senator dick durbin revealed the democrats don't have the 51 votes necessary to reinstitute the talking filibuster even through the so-called nuclear option, even though everyone seems to want it. the last hope in filibuster reform is harry reid's great compromise of needing 41 votes to maintain a filibuster but i'm confident that the democrats will find some way to back down from that, too. joining me now the only one and only michael tomasky. starting with the debt ceiling. 111 democrats voted against raising the debt ceiling. was this all about the no budget no pay provision are the democrats trying to stick it to the g.o.p. >> i think the latter and i think the more
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constitutionalists among them assuming that they are there that the amendment mattered more to them. but emotionally they probably wanted to make boehner pass this bill with his republicans. you know, in a way don't blame them for that. it's a harmless game. there are harmful games and harmless games. that was a relatively harmless one. obama also supported the passage of this, john, i think that if it had been in danger i think enough democrats would have switched over and voted yes. i think they were just trying to make a point. >> john: that makes me feel better. but let me ask you something the number one criticism from my republican friends has been so budget has been passed. why can't you democrats pass a budget how shameful. how should democrats respond to this? >> well, it is true that they haven't passed a budget. you can say that matters or it doesn't matter that much because
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they operate these days on the continuous resolutions so on and so forth. it does put a little bit of pressure on the senate democrats to do this. but of course this is another thing where you can just just--nothing is written in concrete. you can pass a budget that says we are going to have revenues and it's going to be x amount of revenues and you don't even have to specify where the revenues are going to come from. yes, a shirking of responsibility over the years on the senate's part, but a relatively minor one. >> john: they're paying the bills. and really considering the obstructionism they have faced under the g.o.p. under this president obama i don't what the point of releasing a budget would be, they know it would be blocked no matter what. >> exactly right. the things get funded any way. they get funded through continuing resolutions. it's not the best way to do business but the national parks
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stay open. >> john: i agree. turning to the filibuster then, when dick durban said that democrats don't have the votes to reinstate the talking filibusters is that because 51 democrats don't support reinstating it or they don't favor reinstating it through the nuclear option? >> i think it's more of the latter. i think a certain number, not a huge number but a smaller number probably chiefly from red states. look at the democrats who are up for re-election and look at how serious of a race those people face that's where you'll find your people. along with a handful of very serious followers of senate rules. serious students of robert byrd of who carl levin is apparently one. who will oppose doing it through a simple majority way and would rather do it the old fashioned way, which would require
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two-thirds, the old fashioned way would be great. but the old fashion way has died as we have seen time and time again over the past few years. >> john: in more legislative news harry reid said he would open up the gun legislation to amendments. is this a way to encourage support from senators who might otherwise not have supported it but allowing them to put in their amendments? isn't this really bribes for votes? >> yes, but that's what the job is isn't it? i mean, that's how you do these things. you let them vote for an amendment that says, well, my amendment would have curtailed x. but they can stand up and say that and maybe you'll get a vote for the whole package. i think the bottom line on all of these things, john, remains public opinion. we often think public opinion doesn't really matter, but i really think public opinion actually does matter.
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if it didn't make a difference, we wouldn't see 42 republicans vote for a tax increase in the fiscal cliff deal, we wouldn't have seen the republican party back off attaching a debt limit vote to severe spending cuts. they were feeling the heat of public opinion and to some extent of lead opinion, wall street opinion and corporate opinion and so forth on these matters. public opinion does make a difference. supports bomb on guns by and large. supports obama on revenues i think ultimately public opinion will make a difference. >> john: and they support on filibuster reform as well. i hope harry reid can hear you. michael tomasky always a pleasure to have you. you made me feel a little better. you really did. i didn't think it was possible. >> that's why i'm here.
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>> john: the one and only michael tomasky. thank you for coming on again. >> thanks a lot. >> the right wing has a new word word, fascism. unfortunately they think it
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>> john: stay speaker of the house john boehner said, quote wants to annihilate the g.o.p. okay, let's looook at some of the annihilateing annihilation barack obama was open to the idea of outlawing contraception. no wait, that wasn't obama. that was the republicans. my bad. well, barack obama embraced backwards ideas about immigration that turned off most latinos and voting block that is essential to any modern--no, actually that was wasn't obama. that was the republicans again. in the wake of horrible mass shootings, barack obama ruled
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out the idea of popular sane gun control and aligned himself with nra head wayne lapierre, whose sinister demeanor--my fault. that wasn't obama. that was the republicans. i know obama tried to sneakily jerry mannedder virginia voting districts dammit, that wasn't obama. that was the republicans. my point is president obama please stop trying to annihilate
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>> john: wholes foods ceo john mackey made waves this week when he made the following comment to npr about the affordable care act. >> in fascism the government doesn't own the means of production but they do control it. that's what is happening with the healthcare program and these reforms. so i would say the systems are
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becoming more fascist. >> john: that will make me feel so bad when i buy a $9 of coke at whole foods. mackey said he regreeted using the word fascist because it has so much baggage to it. in a similar confused state sean hannity and a guest likened obama's push for sensible gun control in our nation to the rise of hitler and stalin. >> i think it's disgraceful that he used children to advertise that we're gonna remove all these guns. i mean, if you go back to the 1930s with hitler, he did the same thing. >> isn't that--isn't that what we with don't talk a lot about? what were the intentions of our founders and framers? we have stalin, we have hitler countries tyrannical. they talked a lot about that. >> john: that was right wing guy comparing a non-right wing
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president to right wing hitler. i wonder what inigo montoya would say to these two gentlemen and think definitions. >> i do not think it means what you think it does. >> john: joining us to discuss one of the smartest men i know, the brilliant thom hartmann. thank you so much for being on the show this evening. welcome. >> well, thank you john. i'm caught your stand-up act here you're brilliant. it blue me way. >> john: thank you so much. it's very kind of you to say. i'm glad your standards are that low. you're the one guy in radio that every time i hear you i know i have to pull over the side of the road and write down what i just heard you say. let me start with this. does john mackey of whole foods know what the word fascism
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means? >> clearly he doesn't and a lot of people have a mistaken understanding of what fascism. when people think fascist they think nazi. naziism was a cult murderous death cult. mussolini was the one who invented the word fascist. it was his ghost writer who invented the word but mussolini took credit for it. he said a fascism could be called corporatism because it's the merging of corporate and state interests. john mackey apparently thought that means the state runs health care, which i don't get because that's traditionally kind of socialist, but he earlier said that obama-care was socialism
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because it's not that, either. that would be if the va took over our healthcare system because in socialism the government owns the hospitals and the employees there. we have the single payer system that's medicare, i don't think we have a fascist system. we do have a corporatist system. >> john: but to be fair to mr. mackey, is there an argument that the affordable care act because it requires people to buy a private company's product can you make the argument in some ways that is fascist? >> no, i don't think so at all. consider the real history of fascism, what happens with fascism. when mussolini came to power he dissolved parliament and replaced it the chamber of fascist corporations.
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instead of the equivalent of a corporation district. they would sent their representative of that district and that was fascism. you could argue that america has been creeping towards fascism because you can identify increasingly, that senator is the guy from big oil and that senator is from big banking and that senator is from the gun lobby. people have their favorite industries and vice versa. that is taking us closer to fascism than any proposal to provide healthcare to americans. >> john: let me get one question clear. it's not possible to be a liberal fascist, correct? that's like saying hot ice or jumbo shrimp or holy war or ja
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rule music. >> in the european sense it would be possible but not in the american sense. >> john: why are people comfortable throwing around fascism, hitler nazis when they don't know when these words are? >> it's cheap--i was going to say cheap journalism but john mackey isn't a journalist. it's cheap--it's name calling basically. and name calling is the resort of people who don't have facts or information. >> john: so i guess my final question to you thom and i appreciate you illuminating us on this. is the right so incapable of using a dictionary? can't they look these words up, or is it better to call a bad name and assume that your base doesn't know what it means. >> i think they're more comfortable calling names than using dictionaries. they tend not to be so fact based john. >> john: are you surprise surprised to hear them comparing the
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president to a nazi. >> just like science doesn't have a place in the republican party or conservative lexicon neither does consistency. >> john: thom hartmann, host of the thom hartmann program. i'll see you at the blue state ball where we're both appearing and i appreciate you joining me tonight. >> i look forward to this weekend, too. >> john: please come back on this show. the great thom hartmann. rand paul looked like he was trying to start his presidential campaign, and he started a campaign all right but it was hillary clinton's. my panel of non-experts takes that up after the break but first let's see what comes up on "say anything" joy behar. >> joy: next on "say anything," former nfl defensive back wade davis who came out last year as gay, is now speaking out. he had this to say about life inside the nfl locker room.
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>> joy: it's one of the gayest sports in my opinion. always hugging there is penetration in the end zone. don't even talk. it's a very gay. >> you should see what goes on in the locker room, then you would definitely think it was the gayest sport. >> joy: also my panel chimes in yes, the beyonce lip-sync controversy won't go away. plus i sit down with the acclaimed director of "les
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presidential but you wouldn't have to use anything that hillary clinton said, you could just use the things said about her. >> i want to express what i think is a widely sentiment both by way of gratitude for your work. >> i thank you. >> you will be sorely missed, but i for one hope not for too long. >> your leadership is respected on both sides of the aisle and has been widely praised. >> i want to share the sentiments of my other colleagues for the hard work you put in on behalf our country both in this chamber and now in the role that you have. we're proud of you all over the world where i travel you are viewed with admiration and respect. >> i salute you and i look ahead to 2016, wishing you much success extended to you my highest regards.
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>> and a few of them don't even like her. joining me now my panel of none experts. three of my favorite me immediatants. liz winstead, and leighann lord. >> it's as if the role is hers. >> that is what she would want to hear. >> the last thing joe biden wants to hear. >> anybody ask him. >> considering her fundraising infrastructure, is the nomination hers for the taking or is the 73-year-old joe biden of the future have anything to say about it. >> i can't go back to an older president. >> well, she'll be pushing 70. i don't know if she'll have acne
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by then. >> i mean younger than her. >> yeah? >> yeah. >> do you think it's hers for the taking if she wants it? >> i do. >> right now yes. but one thing that we have learned from watching these campaigns unfold is that you just don't know what is going to come up. >> john: of course. >> i also think that who knows--i know from watching my sisters who are older than me, the second they get a grand kid their feminist world becomes about the grandkids. if she has grandkids in her future retirement in her future and after watching today, i wonder if she just went home and said, you know what, i really don't wanting to through this again with these scum bags because they're insane. so much-- >> she seemed to be having a good time. >> that's all fun for a minicar and then when it's a daily dose of your life i just wonder if hillary clinton really wanting to through--because watching what the republican party is becoming knowing she would have
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to deal with these people. >> one of the things that motivates here hearing people say again and again, mostly women, thank you so much for your work for women around the world. and i hope this continues. i mean, she may have sat there and thought my god this country needs me. >> it's like being sprayed by a skunk and it's a funny story to tell. but every day the skunk sprays you, i don't want this any more. >> john: after all those years of the 90 day he 90's, the republicans hated her and then they loved her. i was going to put on smash mouth, the official reason was the benghazi hearing. wasn't the real reason behind this pure washington, d.c. theater? >> yes. >> isn't that the reason for everything. >> john: i would argue that it is.
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2011 they exploit attacks to attack. rand paul tried to have the first volley of attacks. >> wouldn't rand paul say maybe i shouldn't step away just net yet. again, the country needs me. super calm, fierce, looking amazing. and so on it. it was like classic hillary. >> john: well rand paul seemed to be throwing his hat in the ring, and i know it was 2001, not 2011. he said to hillary that he would fire her if he was president and then brought up some right wing conspiracy. does rand have a chance of being the g.o.p. nominee or is crisis chris christie going to rush him. >> the g.o.p. crazy is so
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mutating and bizarro and self-destructing. who knows. they had santorum. >> everybody was ahead for a week and then it went away. with the ever growing women and minorities in this country and you have a candidate who said i would do this day vote against the civil rights act. >> john: that was rand paul. i think rand paul is like rick santorum in that he's not running for president but for higher public speaking fees for the rest of his life. it will be hillary against chris christie, a new york senator against a new jersey governor. his views are opposite of most of america. we know over 70% favor abortion rights. chris christie does not. do you think people would realize even a guy they like can have policies they don't like or
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is charisma more important than ideology? >> is that a trick question? >> john: no, it's a very real question. look at george w. bush. >> we love charisma and we love politicians with swagger. he has done good things with new jersey. you drive through and it even smells better. >> john: who doubt, and who cannot cheer what he has done for sandy victims. >> and the police forces, they love him too. >> john: and we could use that tunnel to manhattan as well. >> to predict anything about what chris christie's bigger play is on the national scare right now-- >> that was a double pun in there. >> yeah, exactly. wait until there's not this desperate emotional place that we're in, and again you know, chris christie was amazing in new jersey, but to give someone credit for loving the state that they're a governor of and stem in and do whatever they want, it's like saying he doesn't feed
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his kids. he drives them to school. isn't that great he changes a diaper yeah, i love that he did but he's supposed to. just like giuliani was supposed to after 9/11. >> it only makes sense defense secretary leone panetta will be lifting the ban on women serving in combat positions. it's been a long time coming especially since women have been serving on the front lines. are you bewildered about the timing of this today? >> it seems like a news cycle but not every announcement is timed perfectly to be convenient for people who are writing or activitying about it. i think it makes women in the armed forces more eligible for better pay more promotions, and elite squadrons. >> john: women are already serving on the front line.
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>> i would also just like to say in wake much women in the military and rape and how they're handled to have this come out and the documentary also be in the conversation. it will be interesting. >> john: i would like to see this new development make women have more power and redress against these grievances. rape in our military is tragically under reported, but it's a huge story when you think one of the first casualty of the iraq conflict was a native american female soldier. >> we don't really fight wars with front line battling. how we fight wars is very different from when you talk about bunker hill or battle its. it seems like such a different way of theater. >> john: under a president who uses drone bombs it is. but under a republican president, we'll see. >> why you got to hate on our
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president. >> john: the military industrial complex has been deployed by republican presidents and i'm still angry about iraq. you have to forgive me about that. >> you are forgive. >> john: my panel will stay with me after the break and we'll talk about clothes and fashion--just kidding. >> why did you look at me. >> john: because i know how much you love talking about that. but we look at the only two questions left for the modern g.o.p. how to make
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your agenda of rank sarcasm. >> i'm not sure if they're planning it, but scorched earth. that's just how they're trending. >> i think the same thing. they're going to prove the theory of evolution by deevolving further. >> john: darwin may have been wrong. >> do you remember when president obama was first sworn in back in 2009 and then we heard the that secret g.o.p. strategy dinner in the caucus room with eric cantor, jim demint jon kyl tom coburn, and minister of propaganda frank luntz plot out exactly how they'd sabotage every part of the new president's agenda. well, this year they have not been able to schedule a new meeting and now some of the top dc restaurant are making pitches to host their year's all you can
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obstruct dinner. the dc tgi fridays is so eagle for book this year's strategy supplier that they'll change their name to thank god it's fridays and by god we mean one nation under god who is the one true god and not allah who is a false godfreys. or the g.o.p. agrees to meet at the dc denny's then for one full month every time a senior orders the grand slam breakfast they'll alet paul ryan come to their table and deny them medicare and then applesbee's wants you to know that for a limited time all chicken hawks get a free plate of chicken wings, and if you might consider meeting at the georgetown chili chili's where the valley pinot poppers are so deliciously undocumented. and hey, for all you southern
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