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not only do they volunteer to serve their country in a time of war, they volunteer to jump out of perfectly fine aircraft. i love the 82nd. jumping out of planes is, i mean, the most. i get paid to do what a lot of people pay to jump out of planes. the army blessed me with an opportunity of jumping out. it's an incredible adrenaline rush. had an opportunity to go to another unit, i worked with other units but i haven't seen a high level amount of training that has impressed me as much as the 82nd airborne. we're the best. so what do you want?
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which clear [ music ] [ music ] hello. good morning everybody. welcome to this great land of
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ours. ours. it's hard to say which is a big story. news breaking eight senators four republicans led by john mccain. four led by john schumer who have come up with a come comprehensive immigration plan bi-partisan they are going to announce today which includes a path to citizenship as well as tougher enforcement at the border all contained in one bill. president obama will talk about it in las vegas tomorrow. >> that's huge story. but perhaps a bigger story sara palin dumped by fox news. she was soaking it up and saying nothing. finally, they dumped her but they still have karl rove and dennis cue sin itch. kus. nich. all of that coming up here on current tv.
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i want the people who watch our show, to be able to come away armed with the facts, and the
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arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. but it's also about telling them, you're put on this planet for something more. i want this show to have an impact beyond just informing. an impact that gets people to take action themselves. as a human being, that's really important. this is not just a spectator sport. you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not
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bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. [ music ] >> across the nation on your radio and on current tv this is "the bill press show". >> hillary colinlinton said she is glad they went to work for president obama. and he says she has been one of the best secretaries of state ever. good team. hey, hello everybody.
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what do you say? good morning. good morning. and welcome. welcome to the "full-court press." we are coming to you live from our nation's capitol. that's washington, d.c. and our studio here on capitol hill, right in the heart of the action and the shadow of the capitol dome bringing you all of the news of the day. there is a lot going on today. yes, indeed, here in washington, d.c., news of a bi-partisan historic it looks like bi-partisan agreement ol immigration reform making that perhaps the first big issue that will see some action even before gun control out of the congress this year. president obama's also going to be talking about that tomorrow. and on the international scene, very, very incredibly trallingtic news out of brazil where a blaze in a nightclub
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down there eerily reminiscent of the nightclub fire up in rhode island. what was that? just south of providence road eye island that was caused by pyrotechnics, fireworks inside of a building that the band had set off. the same thing happened in this not club in brazil. about 230 lost their lives the latest report on that. a whole lot more. we are coming to you live on your local progressive talk radio station on siriusx xm this hour only and on current tv. good to have you with us. we invite you to join the conversation any time either by phone, 866-55-press, or on twitter. follow us on getter and talk to us on twitter @bpshow or at
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>> peter: sure. >> bill: to show you that we are the game who can't shoot straight. karel and i it was her birthday weekend. we went to new york for the weekend saw "once" that won the tony for best musical. incredibly beautiful show. very very good. dan and his girlfriend and fian fiancee go to north as well. we are at the metropolitan museum of art, a phenomenal museum. >> we were there for three hours. >> statement. somewhere in the building but i can't find him. >> it's such a big place. >> huge. >> there is no cell phone reception unless you get way up to the periphery where you are near the entrance. so, we would track each other, like which part of the show which one did you see, the museum. >> we can all fess up. who was dodging who at the museum?
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>> bill: that's right. >> peter: somebody was dodging somebody. >> bill: i think it was dan dodging me. >> peter: it sounds like you all had a wonderfully weekend. i had a pretty crazy weekend myself. >> bill: i took carol to dinner at cafe d' artist. >> we had a dinner at chuck e. cheese. >> how much beer did you have? >> they serve beer at chuck e cheese. >> they have to, bill the only way the parents can get through it. >> we got there. we got magness and everybody set up who turned 5. i made a bee line for the bar area, and you can get a giant beer and i just got a big beer and that's the only one i had all night. i will be honest. i had one giant beer the whole night. >> you needed one that big? >> it's loud. the kids are running wild. the video games are just
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obnoxious, blaring, and the parents are just sort of -- they are just these deadened glazed overlook on these parents' face because they sit down in a booth and shove a bunch of coins in their kids' hands and sit back and eat pizza while their kids wreak havoc on this building >> bill: it's hard to believe chuck e. cheese has survived. >> if you step food into one, it is wall to wall. i mean you have got to spend money to stay in there because they have to play games, order their crap food and drink their beer. >> bill: all right. on another front, last night, yet another pre-oscar award ceremony. this one, by the screen actor's guild and jude law gets to announce the best actor going to the best picture, the best drama for the year. >> goes to the cast of "argo". >> how about that?
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i am telling you, "argo" it's going to be argquad a rgo." i can never remember the horrible name of the movie. >> silver lining playbook entailsl >> bill: i think it will be argo. not linkon? >> i think lincoln had the most nomination for the ausc-arizona. it's not doing so well. "argo" got nameominated for best picture. >> bill: "argo" was a damn good movie t picked up the award for the cast salute, the cast for working so well together. >> this has nothing to do with me. it has to do with the incredible people who were in this movie. the people you see onstage, more than 50 actors who spoke in english and in farsi. they came to work every single day whether they had a line or to look at somebody else or
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what i couldn't understand in farsi. and they wanted today kill it to make the movie better. >> bill: he is having a lot of "don't you regret you didn't no ma'am nature me?" a lot coming up two friends of bill in two different hours, michael tomasky from the "daily beast" and neil king. and eleanor sneal to tell us about this outrageous new mexico law that's been proceedposed. yes, immigration reform. it may finally, be here. but first: >> this is the full court press. >> on this monday, other headlines making news every seven seasons, the final episode of "30 rock" airs and the comedy is going out with a bang tina fey and alec baldwin winning awards last night. best comedy ensemble went to
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abc's "modern family." other winners julian moore fogame change, kevin cost ner for hatfields and mccoys. homeland and brian cranston for brinking bad and the cast of down "downtown abbey." >> bill: our friend bill deblasio who has been on the show several times announced he is running for mayor of new york. >> i didn't see that. you are kidding >> bill: good for him. >> peter: cool. >> sarah palin is available for a new gig. sarah palin who quit the job parted ways. >> bristol's mother? >> yes. >>. >> she has parted ways with fox news where she was a $1 million al year commentator. fox simply saying they wish her the best and her future endeavors. she worked there for three
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years. her last appearance was in mid december with greta van cestsustern >> bill: what will she do now? go back to cheerleading. >> at rusha. >> abc reporting a 4 bedroom estate outside of san francisco sold as the second-most expensive house ever in the united states for a crisp 117 and a half million dollar. >> come on. where? >> a 4-bedroom house in the woodside mountains. >> bill: woodside is a pretty nice area. >> peter: i would hope so. >> 360 degreeses of the mountains and acres and acres of properties but yes only four bedrooms, 117 and a half million dollar. >> bill: 4 bedrooms, one bath.
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what do you want for $117 million? dan, thank you. yes, big news today, you know, president obama has cited three big priorities of gun control in addition to getting our fiscal house in order, which we are on our way to doing. but he cited in addition to that three big priorities doing something about gun violence in this country doing something about global warming and doing something about immigration reform. today, a big step toward immigration reform, for the last few weeks, very quietly a group of eight senators has been working to fashion a comprehensive immigration reform package that could get through the united states senate. this would start in the senate, not in the house. there were four democrats and four republicans. the democrats led by chuck schumer include bob menendez
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from new jersey, dick durbin from illinois and michael bennett from colorado, on. on the republican side led by john mccain, including they include lindsey graham because john mccain can't do anything without lindsey graham alongside of him. they also include marco rubio from florida and geoff flake, the other senate from arizonaother senate from arizona. democrats insisted any immigration reform bill had to include a path to citizenship. had to do something about these 11 million people estimated, i think it's higher than that, who had been here, came here illegally, have lived here a long time had their families have jobs, have houses have kids in school. some have kids in the military belong to local churches members of the community, had to do something being them and allow -- give them a path to
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staying here permanently as american citizenship. democrats always insisted on that. and the president has insisted as have democrats, that this all has to be contained in one bill. it can't be little piece meal things. republicans, for their side, still have this broken record kind of demand that we have to have tougher controls at the border when, in fact we already have tougher controls at the border, more agents there than ever before, fewer people coming across. but at any rate, those were what both parties were asking for. and all of that seems to be included in this legislation. yesterday, bob men endez, he was on "this week" with george stephanopolous with john mccain. mennendez say that pathway to citizen, we got it. >> having a pathway to learned legalization is an essential
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element. we are largely moving in this agreement. >> he said this is something we can get to the senate because the american people are ready for it. >> americans support it in poll after poll. secondly, latino voters expect it. third, the democrats want it. and fourth be, republicans need it. >> that sounded weird. >> really? >> then john mccain said, look, we have -- you know america, we've got to do this. america is ready for it. >> look at the last election. we are losing dramatically the hispanic vote, which we think should be ours for a variety of reasons. and we have got to understand that. >> so, there it is again, the elements of it includea the dream act so that the kids who are brought here illegally through -- they have nothing to do with it. their parents brought them here
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would be eligible for citizenship. there would be a tough but a fair path to sitship for those 11 markos moulitsas people who have been here. that path would be set out and, again, the details of the bill will be announced later today. that path will be set forward but they can't start down that path to citizenship until a commission of governors and law enforcement officials certify that, in fact, the border is tighter. we have the controls we need at the border. once that happens, then, these 11 million people can start that path to citizenship. that will all be announced today. the question i have is -- i would love to hear from you. 866-55-press, how important is this? i think it's extremely important. republicans remember blocked it the last time. they killed it under president george w. bush. they killed it and wouldn't do anything about it on the first term of president obama. yes, the republicans lost the latin 0 vote, big-time in 2012.
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but will those right-wing conservative republicans who blocked it before will they support comprehensive immigration reform this time around? maybe, because their own survival as a party depends on it. what do you think? 866-55-press. how important is it to you family. >> heard around the country and seen on current tv this is "the bill press show." [ music ] (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything.
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i want the people who watch our show, to be able to come away armed with the facts, and the
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arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. but it's also about telling them, you're put on this planet for something more. i want this show to have an impact beyond just informing. an impact that gets people to take action themselves. as a human being, that's really important. this is not just a spectator sport. [ music ] >> this is the bill press show. >> bill: president obama
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winning 71% of the latino vote last november. maybe that's why republicans are suddenly excited about immigration reform. so really, this is just trying to save their political ass. i am glad they are supporting it this time. at least some republicans are. i am not sure. there are a lot of the tea partyers and red necks and conservatives out there who are going to say, hey, they broke the law. i'm sorry. these arguments. we can't reward them for braking the law, you know. the pat buchanan approach. round them all up and send them back. 866-55-press. i bet you we are going to hear that. i am not sure this is even with these four republicans going to make it. >> peter: remember, it was this last election cycle that we were
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talking about self-deportation. the republican candidate >> bill: that was romney's solution. >> peter: making life so terrible for immigrants here that they would leave on their own. >> bill: they would all leave as if. right? >> peter: people are talking about this online in twitter and in the chat room. first on twitter @bpshow. the g.o.p. helping with immigration for votes, not because it's the right thing to do. >> bill: absolutely s >> peter: auria says republicans are insane. they try to repeal policies that don't work. in the chat room, joyce says having a pathway to citizenship is what we stand for. >> bill: yeah. it's just, i mean, i don't know how you can debate it that people who have been here 10, 15, 20 years, raised their families, their kids in school, they've got jobs they are
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paying taxes. right? they are members of the community. of course, they ought to be able to basically make it official. i don't think it should be that tough. will republicans go along is the big question? not all of them. >> this is "the bill press show." going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.
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[ music ] >> chatting with you live at press. this is "the bill press show" live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: thirty-three minutes after the hour. we are talking about the outlinesout of a comprehensive immigration bill, one bill. >> that's important that eight
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senators, four democrats, four republicans are going to outline today's 33 minutes. go back to your calls on that. 866-55-press here in just a second. by the way, i mentioned, i was in new york over the weekend. carol and i were in new york over the weekend. friday afternoon, first thing we did was we checked into the hotel. we went down to the world trade center to see the september 11th memorial. i have to tell you, it is one, very, very powerful spot on the earth. it's really worth a trip to new york just to see it. very, very moving very well done, and it reminded me a lot of the vietnam memorial in its simplicity. a lot of water, of course which here, the footprint of each of the towers is just this big hole, you know, with a waterfall kind of cascading down every -- all four sides of it. and then into this pool at the bottom where there is just a
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great big hole that the water pours down in. >> that's nice to hear they did it right. it took so long to get done. >> bill: that's right. yeah. they we want through several designs. >> peter: right >> bill: as to what they were going to do. and all around the edge of each of these monuments are the names of the -- all of the victims and they are identified as, you know, like flight number whatever or with this fire unit or this ambulance unit. >> wow. >> bill: or whatever, what building they worked in. very moving very powerful. hey, before we move on, i've told you about several stories about identify thingty theft that i have heard but this is one of the most disgusting of all. a poor guy an army veteran. he is in his 80s now battling identity thieves as if he doesn't have enough problems at that age. somebody told this disabled vet's identity, sent his mail to
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1-800-356-5967. one bill: democrats insisted on that. one bill that includes a path to citizenship. democrats insisted on that. they got it. but, you've got to tighten the border first. republicans insisted on that. and they have got that measure there. is this going to fly? two questions, i guess, among others: will the rank and file republicans, those who shot it down before, will they support it this time? and, two, why does john mccain have to be the guy out in front on this? i mean can't they find any other republicans to do anything other than john mccain and freakin' lindsey graham? >> peter: are there other republicans? >> if you watch the sunday talk shows, there are no other republicans. it's the two of them no matter what the issue, they put the two blabber mouths out there. i think they jumped the sharks so long ago.
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stewart, in saint peter'sville florida what do you say? >> people say we should have a very good immigration bill put in place. but i have -- my only thing is i don't think that we should give a blanket, say, here you go. you broke the law, but here, you get to do everything in the united states. what i mean by that, i think there should be at least a phase of at least eight years of, you know, you can't vote in a major elections. >> that's just a penalty. >> that's after that, you have it. but for the children who were brought in here, that should not affect them at all. >> bill: right. >> caller: you should have some type of thing, yes, we are going to give you citizenship, but you just don't get to become a citizen without some. penalty because, one, you did break the law. but that's how i feel. >> bill: well, you know i tell
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you, stewart. we will know more of the details tomorrow. i am sure it's not going to be automatic automatic. i mean the previous version, i think obama's was five years. i do know two things. one, we haven't seen the details yet. they didn't put them out there. but one is they will define a path to citizenship but that won't even kick in until this commission certifies that we have done everything we can to secure the border and the fact is, we have done a lot in the last four years to secure the border. for many reasons there are far few people coming in. one of them is because there are a lot more guards on the border with drones and with other equipment they never had before. there are also not as many jobs here for people to come to. so that's not going to even kick in. once it does kick in, it's not going to be automatic. it may not be eight years. it may be five years. who knows? it probably also will be -- it will include paying a fine.
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it may retire waiting a few years before you can even apply. it is going to be called in the press this morning tough but fair. and they may even have to take some classes or take a test or whatever. it's not just going to be okay. today, we passed the bill, and tomorrow morning, you are a citizen with all of the full rights of american citizenship. we will detail exactly what is in that proposal when we talk about it more tomorrow. but i think this is one of the most important issues. it's the right thing to do. absolutely the right thing to do. we cannot continue the status quo of 11, 12, 15 million people living here in the shadows. for one thing, we ought to recognize the contribution these people real making to this country. but the other thing is, we ought to know who they are, you know. seriously. we ought to know who they are so we can know who ought to stay here and who shouldn't.
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there is one other part of the bill which i forgot to mention which marco rubio has insisted on, and that is i can't believe we haven't already done this, but an exit plan which would track people track the fact that people who came here legally actually left, you know a lot of people come here by boat or by plane or whatever, enter the company illegally and then stay here. >> that's a different -- they are not coming across the southern border but there are -- we have, according to marco rubio, no way of tracking. if someone comes here from poland or india, they come here, get a job and just sort of go underground. >> peter: that makes perfect sense. >> bill: yeah. for 30 days, we ought to the have the a system of tracking. 30 days later, boom, they >> in fact left the country.
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>> peter: these are things that a lot of politicians, i would say mostly democratic politicians, have been talking about since george bush was president. it's taken this long >> bill: some republicans >> peter: to catch on. >> bill: because they are losing their ass. they can't win the latino vote, the fastest growing part of the american electorate they cannot win the presidency now unless they win a bigger share of the latin 0 vote and obama got 71% of it. mitt romney, 27% of it. lamont is calling from maryville. they are not doing it because it's the right thing to do. >> peter: right. >> bill: maryville, indiana. lamont what's going on? what do you say? >> caller: basically, john mccain, we are doing this because of the election results. like i said, that speaks to a bigger problem when now all of the sudden the republicans are
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the stupid party because or whatever, you know, they lost the election. they are just saying this and doing this to get back in power, and once they finish or they get back in power, everything is going to change. they are going to go back to their real agenda. >> bill: i think they are going to have trouble with that because their message to the latino community is, we don't really care about you. right? >> why we have neglected you all of these years. we still don't care about you but we are going to pass this bill to pretend we care about you so maybe we can win some more e richens. >> caller: that's crazy. >> bill: pretty phony, isn't it. >> caller: i hope america doesn't fall for that. >> bill: they may be the stupid party but i don't think we are the stupid people. thanks, lamont. good to hear from you here it's monday morning january 28th. josh crashar is the executive editor of "hotline" at the national journal joining us next to talk about a big announcement
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also over the weekend, two senators not running for re-election. >> this is "the bill press show" live on your radio and current tv. >> i'm a slutty bob hope. >> you are. [ music ] (vo) tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >> you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. just be grateful current tv does not come in smellivision. the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. (vo) only on current tv.
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>>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. [ music ] >> radio meets television the compil press show now on current tv. >> bill: here we go thirteen minutes before the top of the hour, neil king in as a friend of bill in the next hour from the "wall street journal." in addition to news about immigration and gun control out
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of the senate this weekend, news that two veteran senators will not be running for re-election, we wanted to check in with josh krowshar. sorry. i have been practicing saying that name too. josh krowshar the executive editors of the "hotline". >> great to be back on the show. >> great to have you back. the gun we are for us a good friend, tom harkin from iowa completing his 5th term and saying, no number 6. right? >> yeah, i mean tom hayrkin served in congress since 1974. he you know when you spent almost 40 years in washington, it's time to hang things up. as you said when he announced his retirement, it's time to let a new generation of political
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leaders step to the plate. he is heading out. i with a is a big battleground state that has huge political consequences in 2016 as well. this is going to be a race to replace tom harkin is going to be one of the most fascinating senate contests in the upcoming 2014. >> bill: does it give republicans a crack at iowa? >> it does. it gives them a crack. i think that's a good way of putting it. democrats have a deeper bench and the name you will hear a lot of is bruce braley the congressman from eastern iowa very prominent member of the house. he has been very interested in the seat and it looks like he is going to start a campaign pretty soon. republicans have some candidates, too. the challenge on the republican side is the same challenge we have talked about for years and years now about the tea party versus establishment wing of the party. steve king, it sounds like he wants to run on the republican side, very conservative a lot of governor of the state,
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republican governor says steve king is too conservative to win a swing state seat like a with a. it will be fascinating to see how the republicans deal with that conservative wing >> bill: what about tom vilsack, secretary of it agriculture, popular in the state? is there any talk talk of his running? >> there has been some talk. i think et cetera more interested in heading up the agriculture department. there has been more talk about his wife christie vilsack, but democrats, the vilsacks are the first-tier candidates. democrats, one of the things they bring to the table is a deep bench of candidates. so brailey is the big name but there are other candidates who could fill in the void. >> bill: now, in georgia, it's saxby chambliss hanging it up, up up? >> yes, and the fascinating
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thing >> bill: end of his second term? >> he ran against max cle lapped in that 2002 campaign. >> bill: disgusting campaign i thought at any rate. >> the irony is he is leaving because of the tea party opposition on the right. he has gotten some opposition because he has been a part of these gangs of 8, gangs of 6, voted for tarp and he wouldn't have had an easy primary this time around >> bill: another one who doesn't want to be like dick lugar saying i would rather quit than fight? >> that's true. dick lugar. you know, he has a conservative record on the right, 90s, 95% at least for most of his career really conservative vote ratings. but, you know, in the new era of, you know, what it takes to win a republican primary if you sound like you are trying to compromise with democrats, you are trying to find some
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solutions on some of these intractable issues t.a.r.p. was a huge problem for him. a lot of conservative republicans in georgia didn't like the fact that he supported it. and, you know, he also was very compromising on the fiscal cliff talks at the end of the year. he was having to have a tough primary campaign in georgia, and, you know, it played a role in his decision not to run again. >> bill: "hotline", the best source of what's happening here in washington, d.c. follow josh kraushaar at the national now, yesterday, senator feinstein, of course, on the sunday talk shows talking about her ban on assault weapons and senator mccain and john menendez talking about immigration reform. josh, would you agree, action on both of these maybe immigration reform first. >> very much so immigration reform first and we are seeing today that the gang of 8
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bi-partisan senators including marco rub yap and chuck schumer among others had reached a pretty brad deal a pretty broad compromise on immigration reform, which it's a very interesting -- it's coming a day before the president was making his own speech pre-empting the president's speech on the policy proposals he is putting forward. this is an issue that has bi-partisan support. i have been fascinated, bill, that marco rubio has done a better job whipping the republican conservatives on the need to support comprehensive reform more than john boehner has when it comes to his own troops. this is an issue that you are going to be seeing some bi-partisan support already on, and the big question is: how does the white house play into this congressional proposal this gang compromise on immigration reform am? but there is clearly plenty of room for bi-partisan. it's the first time in a long time we have talked about republicans and democrats agreeing on something pretty big.
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i think there is a lot of political momentum here gun control -- >> bill: i think we will have to wait for gun control to next time we look at you, here looking at the clock. >> fair way of putting it. i am not optimistic we are going to see more gun control >> bill: that's more of an uphill battle. thanks, my friend. josh kraushaart editor of the national journal "hotline". >> this is "the bill press show."
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topic at a time, this is "the bill press show," live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: neil king 7 ario political reporter joining us as a friend of bill in the next hour. we'll cover the waterfront political waterfront and concongressional concongressional waterfront but jerry john says talking about that filibuster reform harry reid destroyed the progressi movement. he put the democratic party in the grave. i will no longer listen to any progressive radio. entails don't blame us. we were blasting harry reid on friday. blame him. not me ralph burns says women in combat, absolutely not. i don't even want to see men in combat. i am 78 years of age. i did my stint in the military but i can't remember when this country has not had comebat troops in somebody else's country. he wants to end it all and no sons or daughters going off into
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it's monday january 28th. the month of january long-range again. we are into 2013. hope you had a great weekend and are ready to tackle the big stories of the day. >> that's what we do every morning here on the "full-court press." welcome, welcome to the program and don't forgiveget it's yours as well as ours, your chance to sound off on the issues of the day the old fashion way by phone at 866-55-press. we have an army of operators or join us on twitter and more and more of you do every day. follow us on twitter and talk to us on twitter@bpshow or press show. there is so much to bring in we had to bring in the shock troops to help us get through the issues of the day, neil king for the "wall street journal." good to see you. >> good morning. >> dr. king, haven't been in in a while? >> a tiny while.
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my shock, i went online. i looked i saw two-hour delay delay federal government but bill press show, still on time not two hours late. >> that's right. never delayed. damn it t team press. they were already here. >> i salted the road for bill. >> chains on your tires so you could drive in. >> wouldn't that be something if we could have a two-hour delay in a snowstorm. must be nice. >> sipcyprian boulding made it in from bowie? >> didn't even need an umbrella. it's sleeting in the nation's capitol, expected to get worse. the first little sign of any inclimatewealth, this city cannot handle it. >> rain with a possibility of
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phrase, cancelled or delayed. federal government announced two hour delay. >> a lot of schools on a delay. we had not much snow at all on friday. did hadn't come yet. and we got an e-mail saying they were letting him out of school two and a half hours early. >> ridiculous. >> we didn't get an inch >> bill: a bunch of weanies "saturday night live" every once in a what i mean comes up with something memorable. i was going to check it out this morning. seth myers, of course, with a weekend update gifts? >> ariana huffington. she looks like her though. >> thank you so much for being
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here, ariana. >> thank you. could you be serious? i would never miss a chance to talk to you, my flakey also baklava. >> what did you think of hillary's testimony? >> i thought she was wonderful considering the people she was talking to. i mean the last thing rand paul grilled that long was a possum. he and committee members go after hillary like she is casey anthony. >> she sounds just like that. >> natine padrad. >> we were talking last night. don't you think she has been in this country so long as has henry kissinger that they both have cultivated their accents to keep them. >> part of the whole schtick. >> i could buy into that. >> kissing jer, you still can't understand a word he says.
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he is 90 almost. >> one of the few people you recognize instantaneously, the first two words, anybody who has memories of that era. >> you know who he is, but you don't know what he is saying. >> you do know that it's proceed pounds though. >> so neil king here as had a friend of bill this whole hour. again, your calls welcome at 866-55-press, michael tomasky in the next hour as a friend of bill joined by eleanor sneal to talk about women in combat and other issues, but first. >> this is the full court press. >> headlines making news on this monday, make room on the mantle another big win for argo. ben affleck taking the motion picture prize for pest performance by a cast in a drama. daniel day lewis and tom mcmorries lee jones winning for their roles in "linkon" generaljennifer
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lawrence for les mis many did thank the sag union. >> bill: and for the merger and the fact that now they send out to all of us members cds of the movies. i got "lincoln" yesterday. >> a day late and dollar short. they were supposed to send that out so you could vote for it and it came after the deadline passed. >> a couple of months or week before it comes out would be a good opportunity for a viewing party. >> totally. >> i am a little disappointed. >> i would like to see it again. >> i haven't seen "lincoln." >> do you want to borrow mine? >> we will have to make that arrangement. i take it you can't share those >> bill: yeah. >> i know it was a joke, bill. >> who are the fun ette people in america? rolling stone. >> john mccain and lindsey
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graham. >> the 50 funniest comedians, number 1 is louie c.k. for his being political incorrect. the rest the top 5, steven colbert and the creator of south park, tray parker and matt stone. by comparison, just making in the list at number 49, joan rivers. >> oh, god. she should not still be on the list. >> to me the top 5 are newscasters. >> boring. >> i agree with the louie c.k. thing. he is killing it. >> is jimmy kimmel on the list. >> not on the top 10. stop insta gramming your food. people taking pictures of their food and posting them online before they eat it. abc reports chefs are now asking diners refrain from using flash photography in restaurants so as to not disturb other diners.
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some are inviting people into the scotch to take pictures if they are that add am ant about doing it. if this informal ban doesn't work some are considering going to the restaurant state association for something more official. >> bill: it is true there are some speak who will not take a bite of anything unless they take a picture of it first and post it, as if anybody cares. >> yeah. >> guilty. not in restaurants. usually, i take pictures of the stuff i cook. >> bill: well let's not -- >> a hungry man dinner can only be so exciting dan. >> i don't -- >> peter: there have maybe been one out of every 20 times that i will be served a plate food and go that's a beautiful plate of food. i would like to take a picture. just shut up and share your foot. >> photos of food don't turn out. >> just eat
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>> bill: fourteen minutes after the hour. the number one issue in our nation's nation's capitol neil king has to comment on and that is the national -- the reason people go to nationals game is to watch the race of the president. so you have the four aybraham lincoln and teddy roosevelt they run around from the outfield and then everybody, they cheer them on. da da, da. they have added a fifth one. >> twitter was alive with speculation speculation. >> who should it be? >> well, everyone is speculating they picked because they knew his head like three feet high. >> and the winner is? >> howard taft. yeah. >> bill: going to be known as "bill"? >> "bill taft".
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>> this is the bathtub president. right? >> yeah. >> he is the fattest president we ever had. >> bill: he weighed like 500 pounds? >> he was a good golfer. >> but you know that he was so fast that he had to -- fat that he had to have somebody else put the ball on the tee for him. he couldn't bend over. >> that's what i have read. why of all of the people they choose? >> it's not a sub plot. it's a historical plot where ted d.c. picked him and then they went down in defeat. in terms of baseball, he was oddly enough, the first president to ever throw out a first pitch, and in the same game, he created 7th inning stretch. so you top that. >> i didn't know that. >> he stood up in the 7th incan and he stretched and it may be everyone else because he was president stood up as well, hence, 7th inning stretch. >> bill: you are the master of
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trivia. i have to tell you. >> peter: that's pretty good. i thought taft might have been a bad chance. i am kind of with it now. >> bill: thinking about how much fun they would have had if they made bill clinton. >> trivia, we have a federalist a democratic republican which is like jefferson was and we have three republicans of different types. right? we have no democrats. >> no democrats. >> you know. bills i am never going to another game. on a more serious issue, you went down and write can about it down, you were in charlotte. we were there last for the democratic convention. the republicans wanted to get back so they had their rnc meeting. we they re-elected rinse hince priebus. >> he raised money which is one thing mitt romney did really well, too, if you remember
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>> bill: lose e elections but raise money. so reallywhat really counts? here is my favorite part of what i heard from the rnc meeting which is a speech by bobby ginda. l. i am serious. it's time for a new republican party that talks like adults. it's time tom artic lake our plans and visions in real terms. how did that goo there. >> that's a line he used before but to come into heart of the republican party at their big dinner as the keynote speaker and to say in that forum that the republican party, well most representatives is a stupid party. there were a lot of the rnc committeemen i talked to that were like come opinion. the point was valid. it was basically about we have to stop or somehow or another make sure these people don't
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emerge as, you know, the person running for the senate primary or who things becomes the nominee who says stupid things. we have to stop shooting ourselves in the foot. all the same the message then goes out from this thing where they are talking about what we really need to do is master our messaging and then the message is, we are the stupid party. his speech is interesting. his whole thing, you see this a lot, you know, this "new york times" story about cantor wanting to along beyond the politics of debt. there was a lot of discussion there about how much washington is just going to screw up their narrative and the peril of what's going on here on the debt fight, this concern, one thing jendill, we have to be the party of growth. they are worried about being the ones that are trying to batten down the hatches on spending, "the size of government, all, you know, good things in their mind, but where does that leave you in terms your i amage and how the public sees you?" >> they seem to be saying and i
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think they they said they don't want to change their ideas or policies. they think they are the right policies. they have bad messagers like todd aiken or the other guy. >> richerred murdoch. you know. they are not saying fundamentally that they still thing think their policy. >> henry barber one of the committeemen from mississippi, a nephew of hallee bar sees himself doing an overview of where the party need to go. he talked to a variety of us and said on the way up, i was reading this 1989 white paper that the democrats did after their schlacking in 88, during the carter years, and i read it and i thought, you know, this is not the kind of thing that we need to do as a party. we just need to change, you know, this or that way or
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mentioning thing. we need to reach out and find better candidates. so i asked henry the other day to send this thing to me he had read. it was a fascinating document written by, you know, bill goulson who is now at brookings. and it was hardcore assessment intro spection by the democrat we can party, much manifest by the kind of things bill clinton brought in which totally reoriented american politics and has basically paved the way for the kind of dominance the democrats have had since then. but what you see written down there and here in washington as well, there is very little of this sort of real kind of intro speculation about do we need to change kind of who we are somewhat and how we go about it in terms policy? it's about mechanics and presentation >> bill: a lot of denial going on. neil king, senior reporter for the "wall street journal" here as a friends of bill. when we come back, neil immigration reform.
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>> yeah. >> bill: going to be introduced today by a panel of 8. four democrats and four republican senators. where is that going? we will talk more when we come back here at 866-55-press. take your calls, too. >> this is "the bill press show." right have, about the "heavy hand of government" ... i want to have that conversation. really? you know i'd like to arm our viewers with the ability to argue with their conservative uncle joe over the dinner table.
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alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but
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i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.
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to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking?
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>> chatting with you live at press, this is the bill press show, live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: here we go on a monday, january 28th. what do you say? good to see you today. thank you for being with us on the "full-court press" at 33 minutes after the hour, coming to you live all the way across this great land of ours from our
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studio here on capitol hill in washington, d.c. we are moving out to you live on your local progressive talk radio station and, of course on current tv, in studio with us as a friend of bill this hour, neil king, national politico reporter for the "wall street journal." and neil we want to bounce down to the white house. lots going on down there on getting, you know, the agenda all set for 2013, nobody covers it better than our good friend, david jackson, white house correspondent for "usa today." how are you. >> file. >> bill: i want to start with a tidbit i picked up. last monday night, inauguration day, they had this party at the whitehouse which was reported as being one of the greatest parties ever held there and lasting until the wee hours of the morning, until 3:00 in the morning. and for the white house party, and my question i always had at
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the time was whether or not -- what time the obama actually went to bed or went upstairs. i talked to a member of the cabinet last night who was at the party. and he said michelle and barack obama were on the dance floor until 3:00 a.m. >> wow. >> themselves. >> i guess did the party continue when the president and first lady go fwoed? >> i have been to parties where the president and first lady go to bed. this sets a new record? >> i haven't heard it. maybe this explains why things were so slow on tuesday at the whitehouse. one of the last tweets from that party from one of the celebs was 2:38. there was no doubt the party we want way, way into the evening. i guess it's not surprising the host would stay up with everyone. >> when was the prayer breakfast, david? >> like 10:30 or 11. later in the morning.
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>> service at the national cathedral. >> didn't have to speak at that. he could always nod off. >> bill: i guess i will fess up, the secretary, donovan, the secretary of housing who was there with his wife and he said they were cutting it up, too. michelle and barack on the floor. he said he knows at 3:00 a.m. it surprised me. for obama particularly. he is not a late-night guy? is he? >> once every four years, you know, you have to. >> a good mood took a peek at him when he got to the white house. i am sure he was so pumped up, probably couldn't have gone to sleep anyway. >> that's what the secretary said. they were just in a really, great, great mood. >> sorts of like when he was leaving the capitol and looked back out across the mall maybe he was thinking i am never going to be dancing at one of my own inaugurations again. >> the president goes on the
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road for immigration reform. eight senators. >> tomorrow. >> tomorrow. i'm sorry. eight senators today are going to beat him to the punch with their outline. is there any coordination between the white house and the congress? is this one and the same plano two different? >> i think it's the same philosophy because both plans have a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants as well as tighter enforcement. i think there will be some differences in terms of how you get to be a citizen and also what comes first, the added security or the pathway and how do those relate to each other? i am sure there is some difference in the details but the basic blueprint is the same. the senate has kind of leaned this way. it's the house that's the question mark when it comes to immigration. >> the point you were mainly making, neil before the break? >> obtain's whole thing, do what you are going to do, bring us what you are going to bring and we will deal with it from there which is i think the whole philosophy for the whole next term. >> david, it does look like, though, with this, initiative
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starting in the senate that it's going to be easier to get comprehensive immigration reform passed than it will the president's gun violence proposal. >> no doubt about that. you have a lot more republicans talking about immigration than you do about the gun control proposals, particularly the renewed assault weapons band. immigration is a better bet. ents in recent weeks have proved that out. >> yeah. is this the only item on the president's agenda tomorrow, this -- i mean, he is going out just to talk immigration reform? >> as far as i know, and of course it's a long trip. it's a day trip. he is not spending the night. coming straight out to las vegas coming back. they havenevada is a purple state and a fast-growing hispanic population. so it's a natural place for him to talk about this issue. i don't think he has any other events. none that i know of. >> jay carney has told us that the president, remember, he just said, i think the last briefing that we can expect a lot of time for the president to be out on
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the road pushing his proposals this year. >> right. the president has always been a strong believer that the public pressure, a lever to use against congress. some can question how effective he was in the first term especially after 2010 elections but there is no doubt he is going to take his case to the people. >> isn't that, neil, what he is doing with this -- what is it? ofa? right? >> yeah. that's the whole kind of making permanent what was his huge exam pain operation. >> turning it into under jim messina? right? a full-time kind of citizens pressure group. >> they tried to do this last time after the '08 election. of course, it was a different thing because then it was what do you do to sort of put something in that you will use for your own reelection. this is different if it takes hold and what's interesting going back to charlotte and the republicans is the republicans are now saying the democrats have sort of a permanent
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campaign operation. we need to do the same thing. this whole phrase, permanent campaign is joyous to any of us who cover politics and horrifying to anybody else. republicans opened four permanent campaign offices in wisconsin. basically like permanent field offices. >> in wisconsin. >> in wisconsin yeah. there is a little bit of an arms race going on. both sides are trying to, you know, have their own kind of grassroots way of pushing their causes. >> bill: david, give us your take on the new chief of staff announced on friday. >> obama himself said it was the least surprising announcement in quite some time at the while house. jack lew has been rumored to be the secretary designate and we heard dennis. he is ultra loyal and liked and organized. it seemed like a natural fit. it's not a surprise to anyone inside the white house anyway.
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>> bill: it is sort of like a domino effect along the white house staff. he moves up and then danfy pfifer moves up to take plouffe's support. >> a lot want to leave around the first term to the second term. that's what we have seen. jack lew got promoted today a different job but guys reich david p. louffe want to go to the real world as it were. dan pfiffer is basically the same role that david an axle rod and plouffe played during the first position. >> that's an important position. >> bill: and from our friend jennifer palmier. >> she months up to dan pfiffer's role. shelling of-- she will be doing a lot of things in terms of
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getting the message out and framing the message. >> talking about david p. louffe, he sent out a tweet because he started on twitter. first day post-white house, minor ice closestion delays schools, first instinct is to think the announcements are on the level need serious detox. he is having a hard time to adjusting. >> tweets, off of the beaten path, plouffe and carney tweeted about the hill area clinton-president obama. : . i was intrigued. >> bill: i want to ask you both about that. that was highly unusual to be say the least. right? for the president of the united states, who any president, they never sit down with anybody else to do a joint interview other than -- i can never remember one. i never remember one other than their wife. right? >> it's a thank you.
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right? to her. she had done incredible service and has gone through a bit of a gauntlet over the last month. i think don't you think, david? >> that's right. there is a caveat. he did a joint interview for nikolas sarkozy for french television. it was a thank you. in fact, the white house called up "60 minutes" and invited them. he was driving this train. i think what he said in the telecast, he wanted to thank her for doing a great job. i can't help but wonder if he is striking to stay neutral between hillary clinton and joe biden. biden has expressed interest and hillary clinton is apparently thinking about it. i think the president wants to stay neutral. he has been prizeworthy from biden and giving him important assignments. >> bill: he said when steve kroft asked? >> the president said, come on, you guys. we are barely out of 2012. >> egregious.
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>> bill: i was wondering how that was initiated. the white house initiated that. >> correct. >> bill: the request there. all right. what's on the schedule today, david? >> we just added something, meeting with some police chiefs to talk about his gun control plan representatives of various police chiefs' associations about included in the group was the mass shootings recently newtown, aurora, colts, and and the wisconsin suburb where the seihk can temple took place. >> bill: welcoming the miami heat. >> a little fun time for the president. >> bill: he loves those sports teams. a lot of fun. we have a briefing, i know at 12:30 today. david was i look for you down there. >> all right. >> thanks for joining us. talk to you later. neil king remains here as a -- david jackson covering the white house and neil king remains here
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as a friend of bill. what's up with sarah palin? she is out of a job. >> heard around the country and seen on current tv, this is the bill press show. just be grateful current tv does not come in smellivision. the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. (vo) only on current tv.
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and the gun control stuff is just so grinding and grim and difficult with so little sign of support on the republican side >> it's hard to see how it moves on the house. global warming, i don't know what that's going to amount to. fouriers ago they moved forward hugely on cap and trade. that was a mon truss bill and it went quite far down the road until it all fell apartment. i don't see how they try to do anything remotely similar to that. >> it's interesting. we had last week in studio from the head of nrdc who said -- and they have been in the lead on global warming basically cap and trade is not going anywhere that there are huge things the president can do and epa can do toward exiting power plants. >> that's what they are focusing o if they can get them to do that, then we will have done as much as we can do which we look
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at and just forget about possibility. >> that's a trend we are seeing using what powers it has to execute various things without interaction of congress. right? >> yeah. we have been talking about michael tomasky. you have too. the issue you hear more and more about, reapportionment. in state after state after state, whether it's a controlled legislate tuwave, the states are moving to redraw the district lines? for democrats to win in that size.
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>> various states like five or six talking about re-jiggering the electoral college. >> right. >> coincides with reapportionment because the idea is to havemove away from elector -- winner take all. >> is that going anywhere? >> it should be but it's unclear whether, you know, hundreds and hundreds of republicans at these various stat levels support it or a couple of dozen. if you look at virginia which is the one, where it has action going on. this this bill is going to die in that committee probably tomorrow. the ironic thing, an almost identical bill to the one that made it to this committee has been introduced a dozen times or so over the last 10 years every other time by democrats, looking at their own disadvantages, we have to change things. now, it's republicans looking at
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their disadvantages in virginia and soberer minds including the governor of village, mcdonald and others are like, no, if we in the end get the upper hand in this state, as they think they should, we don't want to allot electoral votes and undermine our own cause. >> from the second change. >> more about this. look at california. this has happened in california, depending upon which party was in power. theydrew lines in their favor. last year, they took it out of the hands of the politicians, put it in the hands of a commission, former judges and that kind of stuff. they came up with a great new plan, a very fair plan and i think more and more states may be doing that to get the politics out of it. >> right >> bill: neil king, thank you for coming in from the sleet and snow. nothing stops you. >> my god, nothing >> bill: "wall street journal,"
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>> we have an agreement that includes a path to citizenship that means that immigration reform may be the first thing we see in this session of congress. we will find out more about that and a whole lot more here but first, with today's current news update, let's take a minute to hear from lisa ferguson out in los angeles. hi, lease a. good morning. >> hey bill. good morning, everyone. you can find out more about that right now. as bill mentioned, legal citizenship could be on the way for some 11 million illegal i am grants living in the united states. a bi-partisan group of
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senatorses has agreed on a plan to lay the groundwork for an immigration overhaul. eight senators have been working on this plan during a series of closed door meetings dick durbin and chuck schumer as well as john mccain and marco rubio. we are expecting them to unveil that proposal later today on capitol hill and we should see some provisions giving a faster path to citizenship far farm workers and young people brought here as children. this also paves the way for a contentious legal battle. president obama is proposing his own ideas tomorrow during a speech in las vegas and no telling whether he will adopt the plan from the senate. but the senate's blue print is expected to take presence dense on capitol hill and with that bi-partisan backing, it could have a better chance of making it through congress. we could see committee votes as soon as march. also in the senate lawmakers are gearing up for a battle over gun legislation. the judiciary committee will
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press"ers across the land. we will keep track of all of that and the issues of the day. joining us to help us sort through it, michael tomasky, columnist for the "daily beast" edits a journal or publishes a journal called "democracy" and pops up in the pains of the new york review of books. and i don't know where else you appear but i see you on all three of those places. >> that's enough >>. >> one of our most prolific commentators. we are here with the team press, the whole team here, peter ogburn and dan henning. >> good monday. >> happy monday. >> good morning. >> and cyprian boulding? >> he is here. >> the man without a microphone, controlling cameras. dan and i both in new york for the weekend. not together. >> significant others. we were in the weekend.
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>> that's it. >> how was the bus back? >> i made it here in three hours and 44 minutes, which i thought was a record. school bus. tremendous. >> bethesda? >> i tell you what, it was going to be the same time door to door for me to take amtrak. >> he is proud of himself. >> so was the express. what's going on? everything good? >> everything is fine. the "new york times" once did a fantastic story where they september 3rd reporters to race from new york to washington. >> i remember that. u.n. one by plane, one by train and one by car. the person who took the plane won but she kind of cheated because they only took a cab. it was from washington to new york. she was supposed to take a taxi from laguardia to city hall. she took it to northern boulevard and beat the person
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who road the amtrak train by about five minutes. >> really? >> wow. >> yeah. but let me tell you something, forget it. right? >> right. >> forget it, flying to new york. forget it. it too much. too much. too much. last night, i didn't get to see it but i have heard a lot of it since. very unusual for the president to sit down with an interview with anybody else. we learned this morning from david jackson at the whitehouse the only time he has done this any president, but for pompom anyone other than his wife, he sat down for french television with sarkozy. nikolas sarkozy, they gave a joint interview but the white house called cbs and said, would you be interested in talking to the president and the secretary of state together? what a historic moment. >> let me think. >> exactly. didn't take them long to agree to that. steve kroft came running down taped it friday at the whitehouse. and of course, it was kind of a
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love fest. in fact, when you look at the two of them. they look sort of adoringly at each other while the other one is talking, like nancy and ronald reagan match. of course, they were once pretty -- they were very arch rivals. >> yeah. there was not a lot of love lost there for a while. >> likeable enough. >> you are likeable enough hillary but they have become quite a team. and something terri of state last night saying how much she enjoyed it. >> one of the things that i say to people because i think it helps them understand i say, look. in politics and in democracy, sometimes you win e elections. sometimes you lose elections, and i worked very hard, but i lost and president obama asked me to be secretary of state, and i said, yes. and so this has been just an extraordinary opportunity to work with him as a partner and friend to do our very best on behalf of this country we both love, and it's something i am going to miss a great deal.
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>> bill: i think it was very bold of him to ask her and bold of her to accept and salutes to both of them. it's been a great team. i think she will go down, as the president said yesterday, as one of the most effective best secretaries of state we have ever had. michael tomasky with us this hour as a friend of bill. you have a piece today about how republicans, their plan to steal elections, which you have got to tell us more about. but first: dan has the big story of the day. >> other headlines making news on this monday after seven seasons the final episode of "30 rock" airs and the comedy is going out with a bang, tina fey and alek baldwin won. best comedy we want to "modern family" for the third time in a row. others include julian poor as her role in sarah palin on "game
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change." hat fields and mccopies brian canston for breaking bad and the cast of downtown abbey winning as well. >> it's good she won that award for sarah palin because pretty soon -- does anybody remember now who she was? i guess. >> i guess roger ailes doesn't . >> all right. >> tina turner is giving up her u.s. citizenship, the 73-year-old popeye con has lived in switzerland for the better part of 20 years. she is becoming a swiss citizen. the ap reports that she is simply giving up her citizenship because she feels more at home in zurich but it's not she hates america. >> some have pointed this to be obama is taking over so she is having to leave. not that at all. she has lived there for quite awhile. >> tax advantages? >> probably helps sweeten the
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deal. >> absolutely. >> a three-peat at the australian open, beating andy murray in four sets to win his third consecutive australian title and fourth overall. he is the only player in history to win that tournament three years in a row. only nine other men have won it twice ever. >> you got it. dan, thank you. michael tomasky? right? the g.o.p. on the daily beast today. the g.o.p. plan to steal elections. how so? >> by changing the electoral college math and awarding electoral states big contentious states and virginia. those six, awarding them not by winner take all who won the state but by who won individual congressional districts. those six states happen to be corroded at the state level right now by republican
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legislators and republican governors. and so theydrew new district lines in 2010, and they through knew congressional lines. they packed as many as districts as possible. he won pennsylvania, for example, which has 18 districts by winning six of the 18 but ran up big margins because democrats were packed into those six districts. so if the republican rules had prevailed, the rules they want to promulgate had prevailed in the 2012 election, mitt romney would have won 12 electoral votes and barack obama six, plus the two that each state gets for having two senators even though obama won the state by five %. if you go out nationally, this electoral demographer has done
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the calculations. if this system had been in place, mitt romney would have won with 207, even though he got 5 million for sure votes than barack obama. >> this is underway? this is happening? >> you know, i wouldn't -- >> where is it in pennsylvania? has this plan passed? >> no. no. it's not close to passing. >> okay. >> i think they are going to have a very hard time getting this through the there are two states that do this, you know, maine and neb raska. right? remember, obama got one e look toral vote in nebraska in 2008. so they point to that as precedent but very quirky, you know historical reasons. >> that's been true in those two states for a long time. i think switch to aing to a sometime where the guy who got many less votes is going to be a tough sale. the attorney general who we know, very conservative guy, brought that healthcare lawsuit against obama, even he said over the weekend he thought this was a bad idea. i am not sure this is going
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anywhere. >> let me ask you: isn't the e look lectora college spelled out? the only tunnelling the constitution says is there is an e electoral college and it doesn't say how states have stodecide those. >> states can decide how they choose their -- how they divide up their electoral votes? >> yes. >> that's the instructions on how to vote office right? >> right. >> electtors technically don't have straight for barack obama or anybody else. >> isn't this one of a piece with all of the efforts we saw in the last two years to reece press or suppress the vote, whatever the word is, in over 20-something states? right? by limiting the number of days for early voting keeping the
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summed before, like shooting things down? or requiring a photo id? this is all an effort to rig the process. >> yes. >> maybe to change their policies or politics? >> exactly. >> in order to win an ely with. is that what it's about? >> that's what i wrote. you are right. i said look, you know, most people when they have lost five out of six contests, which the republicans have in popular vote terms, most people when they have been on a losing skid would say, i guess we must be something donet wrong. let's look at what we are doing and change but that's not today's republican party. it's we can't do anything wrong. it's the rules. let's change the rules so we win >> bill: the other thing this says to me is that maybe democrats have been not paying
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attention to the right targets in terms of where our political energy has gone. so much energy goes into u.s. senate races the white house, congressional races and nobody's paying attention to state legislatures or to governors. >> yeah. >> bill: so here, the republicans take over and what do they do? right? they push through this stuff both the electoral college or these voter suppression measures. and there is nothing congress can do about it. nothing the white house can do about it. right? >> right. democrats may have naively thought they surely wouldn't try something like that but it is true republicans put more money and effort into state legislative races. they have a broader network out into state capitols than democrats generally speaking. >> every 10 years, it's
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important because that's when the districts are redrawn. >> right. >> right. good for you being on top of this. is there anything, any efforts to undo it or anything people can do? >> there is no organized effort yet that i know about. >> any organization like people for the american way or anybody who is really on top of this? or the aclu or anybody talking about it? >> this would be like voting rights organizations would probably be taking a lead in this sort of thing but i don't think any legislative has been introduced yet in most of these states. so it's a theoretical fight right now but it's really something. >> good to you for exposing it. the sooner we know about it, the sooner we take action, the better. michael tomasky, follow him at "the daily beast".com. we will be right back.
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i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really? you're going to lay people off because now the government is going to help you fund your healthcare. really? i want to have those conversations, not to be confrontational, but to understand what the other side is saying, and i'd like to arm our viewers with the ability to argue with their conservative uncle joe over the dinner table. [ music ] >> this is "the bill press
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show." >> twenty-five minutes after the hour we will talk to angela kelly from the center of american progress about immigration reform, and it looks like michael tomasky is in the studio with us as a friends of bill. it looks like immigration reform is going to nose ahead of gun control here as the issue that the senate is most likely to deal with first. >> yeah. >> you have written a piece today form daily beast in response to david mammot about gun control. he wrote in newsweek. >> he wrote in newsweek last week. he has become very right-wing in recent years. so he is against obama and all of his deeds. >> channelling karl marx. >> the old handy hoary thing that they do. he said that obama signed a law
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giving armed secret service protection to him and his family for the rest of their lives which actually is not correct. it's not true with regard to the chirp. children don't have it for life. presidents and their wives. wives lose it if they separate. >> this is true for every president? >> it's changed in recent years after 9-11 t it's changed for bush and obama. if you are going to begrudge a president secrets service protection, why is he trying to proceed hibit me from protecting my family? in what sense, he can go buy any number of handgun that he wants. >> uh-huh. >> he can buy any number of hand guns he wants. nobody is telling him he can't protect his family with handguns and hunting rivals. >> -- rifles. >> given that, that's what the
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nra says. >> right. >> door to door take your guns, boom, boom boom, boom action boom. but given that pair knownranoia and the gun culture that we live in do you think there is any chance obama can get his gun violence measures through this congress? >> it's tough. but public opinion supports these things. public opinion strongly sports tighter background checks and limiting the capacity of the magazines. it supports to a lesser extents, an assault weapons ban. the politic is on his side. it depends upon whether that can be homized. can the gun control public be mobilized? >> the big question. and, you know, will democrats, will obama and other democrats work hard to do that mobilization? >> i saw senator feinstein.
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the daily beast here in studio as a friend of bill among other things, we have been talking with michael about redistricting and republican efforts to re-draw the lines. redraw the rules. >> in that i be states. peter, what's going on notice social media world on that? >> amount of comments on this on twitter @bpshow. thet thet rigging the electoral college college, sandy g says time to get rid of electoral. it's out of date. popular vote should be used. time to concentrate on state e elections. tweet >> but they are trying to rig the popular vote today, eight
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senators. four republicans and four democrats, the gang of 8, they are being called are introduce their proposal for comprehensive immigration reform. we talked this week for the center of american progress, wanted to bring her back today to see how good she thinks this bill is joining us this morning. >> good morning. >> this has been underway fourth today, one day before the president goes out to las vegas to talk about his proposals. what do you know about this senate bill proposed and how good do you think it is? >> it's a good start. it's a four-page frankwork of what is a very complicated issue. >> it's not a bill yet?
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>> correct. it's not a bill. it reflects already six senators and a ton of staff. if they are not shouting or slamming doors, that's progress. so this is a very significant step in the right direction. it needs to keep going. it's notable these guys kind of rachides to finish in advance of the president's speech tomorrow. >> uh-huh. >> this is a very healthy tension in my view. you have got a group of house guys that are saying, hey we want to play, too. so, this is not a typical for this issue but i think it reflects a new political reality post the election. i think it reflects the republicans' desire to seem reasonable and more polite if
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you will. so it's all moving in the right direction. >> bill: you told us last week that one critical element has to be a path to citizenship. democrats have said that, too. from my understanding, this outline does, in fact have that element in it. correct? >> that's right. it's not -- again, nothing is detailed when you are talking about four pages but it says it will have a tough, fair and practical roadmap to unauthorized in the united states and creating a path to citizenship for unauthorized democrats already here so, you know, that's very good language. details matter a lot. the immigration code is more complex than the tax code but i feel like looking at these words in black and white and this has been endorsed by eight senators of that's a significant step forward. >> michael?
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>> mike tomasky here and who are the four republicans and how many will sign on to it? >> that's an excellent question. john mccain and lindsey graham who, of course have had a profile on this issue because it's ping ponged back and forth for many years. marco rubio, newcomer on the scene, cuban american with high has prations and jeff flake who got elected from arizona and he has a long track record on these issues as a house member for many years. so he's new to the senate but he is not new to the issue. and he's been very vocal as well in the press. the democratic side chuck schumer, dick durbin robert mennendez and mike bennett, a new comer to the scene, colorado senator with more mott rad credentials if you will. you see. >> led by chuck shoe mert.
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>> led by chuck schumer who is the chair of the sub knit. pat leahy has indicated he wants a mark-up in full judiciary committee. your question about how many republicans and getting them is the key question. signals a new generation of leaders on this issue and the con fluxed of that plus the election stoats strong and said we are tired of being insulted. we are tired of the arizona-like measures in this self-deportation language. i think that really set the republicans back and that they are looking to make up some ground. >> it does depend doesn't it it's great to see a bip beep effort in the senate. it's remarkable, actually, i think on an issue like this.
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it goes to the house where it would face a much tougher challenge. correct? >> that is definitely aterian hill no doubt but it's impacted by a couple of things. one is the senate debate because surely all eyes are also going to be on obtain at the same time that the senate is taking this up and asking him: what are you going to do? what are you going to do? secondly, there is, already, a bi-partisan group in the house that's actually been working for a couple of years on a piece of legislation, and they are sort of proudly proclaiming they are even further along than their senate big brothers and sisters. so you do have interest by them already. in other words they aren't starting at zero. thirdly, the house republicans are an evolving set of -- it's an evolving body let's say. trying to be careful here the --
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you know what baron has done in breaking the hassert rule twice now, i wouldn't have thought it would happen once. it's happened twice. this is an issue that has gone from being toxic to now being tame and considered an easier issue than some of the economic ones. so, you know, i don't think that anybody can judge the house and reach a conclusion that it's impossible because so much is just changing. >> yes. >> we will see. >> bill: i think that's good observation. and i think when the fact that president obama won 71% of the latino vote on nov6 helps maybe, you know, a little change of approach on the part of republicans. >> absolutely. >> is the dream act included in this so far as you know? >> yeah. i think what they are doing with the dreamers and also with the agricultural workers interestingly enough is that they are accelerating their path to citizenship. so what i am reading kind of between the lines here and just
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based upon some conversations with hill staff is that they want to ensure that the folks who are undocumented don't get a visa before people who have been waiting in like. >> right. >> people stuck in the visa backlog, we clear those first. fair enough. i think, though, that what they want to do for dreamers especially is not have them have to wait as long. and that may be just recognizing the fact that they came as kids and similarly, that might be the case for agricultural workers where they want to honestly because that's an industry that just has so much unauthorized labor. i think they are looking to try to accelerate their path to citizenship. details matter i am confid he want in saying they are going to want to spray special attention to the dreamers because they are a powerful force.
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>> this will be a real step forward? >> i am skeptic until you prove me wrong. i have a hard time imagining when push comes to shove especially in the house, you know, the radio circuit and all of those people aren't going to rise up in their usual, you know, fomenting way and bat this down. but we will see. i would love to be wrong. >> bill: and what relationship or what's the connection if any, between what the president wants, what the president's going to be talking about tomorrow and what the senate as you point out, angelie, early, rushed to get out here a day before the president? >> look. they will cover -- the president will cover a lot of the same themes. i think in particular, the 11 million and the notion of border security. how do we have effective enforcement? making sure we attract the best and the brightest.
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the president's team has been working on this issue since the first term. i think that they are probably a lot further along than the senate in having details to their proposal and we may see some of that tomorrow after the president's speech. the president can play a different role in this because he's got someone like senator menendez, progressive in the senate and he will have to play a more conservative role. i think the president has freedom to play a more progressive role and his vision will probably be, you know in that vein. >> i have to say and you made this point earlier. i think it's healthy for the white house and senate racing better than having to plod to get members of congress to work. >> thank you for being with us. great to talk to. you are a go-to person? >> thank you so much. y'all have a good day
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desmond tutu said a quote that is one of my favorite quotes. "we are tied together in a web of humanity. i am a person only through you. i can only be a person only through you." that really resonates me and drives my work. the world is becoming an incredibly connected place. mobile phones are really driving that connection. at kiva, we run an internet marketplace. people can lend to other people for the purpose of starting a small business, going to school or a variety of other good causes. you can go to and you can see pictures and profiles of people from over sixty countries all across the world. you can lend them as little as $25. if they are successful, they will pay you back. dear rixi, you're a honduran immagrant. you're coming to the us, you have an idea to start, you know, a women's cosmetics store or a clothing store.
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you're going to need a lot of things, ya know, to pay the rent, permits inventory, advertising, marketing so that adds up quite a bit. you're going to need tens of thousands of dollars to start a small busines. there is ten million-plus people completely left out of the formal finical system. banks don't lend to people like that at all. there is a lot of opportunity to decrease unemployment, provide employment, provide economic opportunity and raise our standard of living by investing in small business. our hearts are an incredibly powerful thing. good technology can help amplify this power and create an incredibly powerful force that can spread to every country in the world. (vo) she gets the comedians
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laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. [ music ] >> this is the bill press show >> bill: twelve minutes before the top of the hour. on a monday january 28th, great to see you today. michael tomasky from the "daily beast" and "the new york review of books" in studio with us as a full court press -- i would say
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friend of bill on the "full-court press." we go back to our survey of the bill news of the today. you have heard me talk about a lot of fun i have been having on looking back at my family tree. it's gotten even easier now because is now up to 11 billion historical documents and 41 million family trees online for you to go back and i can tell you having been through it myself several times. they make it easy in several ways. one, you can bunch in whether you want marriage records or birth or death records or to trice your your family back, that's available. two, they will give you two free
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weeks so visit tryan start your journey today. you may be surprised what you find out. eleven minutes before the top of the hour. michael tomasky, we talked immigration reform, gun control. we have talked about attempts to rig the election and the electoral college. but my, i think, the biggest story of the day is sara palin is out of a job. sara who, some people might say. so she has had a 4-year run. >> right. >> the news is that she has been fired by fox news.
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right? they finally, said enough is enough. they were playing her half a million dollars a year? >> i couldn't believe that figure. >> in this day and age, nobody gets that kind of money any more. >> but when you think about it, from the beginning, first of all, it was a colossal mistake to take her out of vice president and make her the vice president nominee. for mccain to do that how can he be taken seriously. i don't think he should about anything these days. probably cost him the election or one of the biggest factors in his loss. then she quits as governor of alaska after serving for two and a half years. right? she gets this job on fox, half a million dollars a year, has she ever made one worthwhile. >> obama was guilty of shuck and
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jive. >> there are a few memorable ones there, none that redown to her benefit. >> bestol palin, that whole saga and levi johnston and stancing with the stars. it's just, you know, a waste, just a total non-entity. fox said we have karl rove and dennis kusinich. >> she may be more if our faces because fox we can just kind of not watch but she has to do something to make up that million dollar. >> i don't think we will hear from her again. >> you don't >> peter: where does she go is the real question? >> bill: back to being a beauty queen. i don't know. >> if the fox crowd has gotten tired of her, who else is left?
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tom harkin is an in-season and out-of-season liberals for being straight out. >> terrific guy. john mccain's model. >> senators do. it's quite honorable of him to say, i've done my time. it's somebody else's time. >> he said, you know i have five terms, 30 years in the senate. it's time for a younger generation to come along. yeah. right. if more had said that, we might have some better representation. i admire him a great deal. i am going to miss him.
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he has been on all of the issues, he has been the go-to guy. >> the disability act, which was his. >> the americans with disability acts. >> a terrific thing. >> a great legacy. michael, always good to see you. keep up good work. democracy on the daily beast and on the new york review of books and on the "full-court press"? >> and "the bill press show." excuse me. "full-court press." thank you. >> i will be back with a quick parting word about sara palin. >> this is "the bill press show."
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>> the parting shot with bill press, this is "the bill press show." >> bill: >> bill: hey, on this monday january 28th, my parting shot for today, it didn't last long, did it? no, with the news she has been dumped by fox news sarah palin's 15 minutes of glory has come and gone. the big question is: what lasting contribution did she ever make with her 15 minutes of fame? not one damn thing. even john mccain admits it was a huge mistake to make her his vice presidential running mate. she quit as governor of alaska and fox paid her a million dollars to do what she was doing anyway, getting her mug on television as often as she could. she never offered one meaningful insight during that whole time. and she now is on a radio show and not fox news. she made such little


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