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>> john: good evening, i'm john fugelsang, and this is "viewpoint." thank you so much for joining us tonight. the lgbt community might be forgiven for thinking that when it comes to politics they're kind of on a bit of a roll this year. next week the illinois house of representatives may join the state senate and lawmakers in 12 other states and the district of columbia in voting to allow same-sex marriage. a recent gallup poll shows that 53% of adult think marriages between same-sex couples should be recognizedly law. just three years ago that approval number was down 43%. in 1996 the year the defense of marriage act was signed into law by president clinton, only 27% of americans thought same-sex marriage should be legal in a free society based on liberty. now many legal observers think the supreme court will vote to
strike down the act next month. in fact, it's own architect rob portman has defounded it. and representative michele bachmann one of the most notorious congressional gay baiters in recent memory, has just announced she will not run for re-election. with all of that good news, except for mc mc miss bachmann i'm a co-moodan while the boy scouts of america recently greed to admit boys who were openly guy also is keeping it's ban on gay scout leaders for mother let's go to candace gingrich jones half sister of former republican speaker newt gringrich thank you for joining us. >> i'm happy to be here. please call me candace.
>> john: thank you. according to a poll, 1% voted supported the president. >> i think there is a tendency to kind of pigeon pigeonhole all of us not taking into account as much as there are people across the spectrum that means they're going to be some people in that spectrum who are more conservative. whether it's fiscally consider or some other issues involved in the republican party. it shows the diversity of the whole community. >> john: of course and blanket assessments of any minority groups are dangerous. but one out of four voters would go for a party that has written in their platform that they should never be allowed to marry the people that they love.
>> well, one can speculate about the reasons folks have for supporting the republican party. you know, i i know that personally long before i knew i was gay i knew that i was a woman and was therefore a democrat. i think for a lot of us, yes the lgbt issues are important and that's for us why we do vote often as democrats but it's not an across the board thing that every single issue is affirmed by every single lgbt person. >> john: let's talk about our democratic friends. president obama and congressional democrats rewarded the lgbt community appropriately for its vast support. >> i don't know about with regarded. but the obama administration and some members of congress have recognized that lgbt people are part of the fabric of america and that the discrimination that we face is wrong and there is something that can be done about it.
and i appreciate those efforts and realize that there's still much to be done, but you know, there have been some huge strides forward made. >> john: indeed, are you and your friends satisfied with what the democratic leadership has done? what else would you like to see? >> you know, i don't--if anyone is ever satisfied with their party or the president they support, then they're probably sleeping. you always--you always want more. you always expect there can be more. you know, anyone who thinks that we can just ignore the amazing accomplishments that have been made you know, recognizing saying the words lesbian gay bi sexual, transgender. these are words that we have not heard from the white house before. recognizing a group of people
who are worthy of the equality that america should give you that in itself is a huge award. >> john: let me ask you the vote that excluded spouses of same-sex couples a sellout by the democrats or was it a practical necessity to move major legislation through? >> well, you know, what i saw--what we've seen over and over again is this very small minority of senators who are really able to hold up everything, social conservatives who simply oppose this one particular thing and we're stomping the feet and saying if this happens we're not going to let anything else go forward. that's the joy of the filibuster and close your votes and all the fun stuff that happens in the senate. sure, senators who did support the legislation could have maybe spoken up more, said more, but i think the bottom line is that the majority of americans feel
that the couples should be part of that reform and as we move forward we need to continue to push so that is part of the immigration reform. >> john: we're all excited about the impending vote in illinois but what sort of impact would striking down doma have on the lgbt community if the supreme court ruled that way. a woman and her wife catherine were forced to spend $3,000 to adopt they are child because they are rights would not be recognized if they visited family in wisconsin. >> it would be transformational. what it would open up, and i don't know if they've done a more recent study but 1,143 things that come from marriage with the federal government. not all of them are good. some of them are taxing things, but for the most part we're talking about basic things that our families should be afforded.
so the security, inheritance healthcare and that apartmental recognition which is so key on keeping families together. >> john: i agree i think a lot of folks don't realize that just because it's legal in your state does not mean it's nationwide, and does it suggest what the supreme court does the battle for marriage equality will ultimately have to be won in the states one by one. >> well, i think we've already one in the court of public opinion, and we're going in the way that history--that we knew things would go. you know, what happens is the passage of doma when all of the anti-marriage state amendments passed in 2004, when prop 8 was overturned passed, we never stopped the conversation. and i think that there will continue to be conversations even if we have marriage in every single state.
there's going continue to be people in those states who are ignorant about some of our issues. even when we do achieve full lgbt equality there will still need to be a lot of discussion because simply passing legislation does not make ignorance go away. >> john: painfully true, but why should the lgbt community have to fight for equality state by state when the african-american community succeeded on the federal level with legislation like the civil rights act of '64. >> i think what you see going on is fought a singular approach of going state by state but rather looking at kind of a joint approach of what is happening and also at the local level as well as what is going on federally, too. even as we work to add the gender identity to new york state's non-discrimination policy we're still working at
the federal level for the employment nondiscrimination act. yes, those who live in new york, that's awesome, but by the time some of our other states get around to passing their own statewide legislation, i am not sure when that would be. you know, it's a two-pronged approach. >> john: we have an office pool going on which will be the state to recognize marriage equality. it's a close race between alabama and mississippi. it will be thrilling to see how it goes because it will happen some day. candace, what does it say about the acceptance of lgbt folks in this country which we all celebrate, but the boy scouts can announce we're going accept gay kids as scouts but as soon as you turn 18 you're morally unfit to be a scout leader. >> that to me is just--it's beyond the pale. what is it is reinforcing the myth that we know is a myth, some how insinuating that adult gay people are some how going to
be harmful and i've even heard prey upon the scouts. this is why they do not allow and still do not allow openly gay people to serve as scout leaders. and we cannot allow them to continue perpetuate that stereotype. we know from studies and scientific fact and the numbers it's ridiculous, but it's one of those myths that has continued to follow the community because our opponents keep bringing it up. and the boy scouts may not have said it outright i think it's that underlying unfound fear that is at play. >> john: it does boggle the mind when you consider the overwhelming majority of pedophiles are heterosexual identified men. and out-gay man applying to be a scout leader would be up front about their sexuality. >> well, you know, i think
that's what we've seen, and one of the reasons that i believe that the progress that has been made is are people like that in scouts who are living an out and open life. i think that's how we've come as far as we have, the numbers of people who have taken that step, and have been able to live openly and honestly, and it is a shame that scouts will continue to have this insinuation that some how as adults they're not welcome any more in the scouts. >> john: are you going to miss michele bachmann as much as i am? >> well, john, it does sadden me a bit. i think it will be little less work for a lot of folks politically, but certainly i have been calling ms. bachmann the chair of the crazy lady caucus for a number of years now, and they're now going to have to find a new chair. >> john: indeed. you wrote a piece before the holidays about your brother's
newt evolution on the anti-gay, was his stand the way he really felt. >> i think you would have to have him sitting here to have the true story. what i know, the person who is my brother, the person who has been supportive of me as an individual, and who has been supportive of my relationship, and you know, i know that there are politics that you have to dance with them that brung you it could be possible that when the republican evolution happened in '94 and onward, it was a political, calculated thing. what i know at least he has continued to evolve so that now he has opened up, he's not marching in any parades. he's not flying the tea flag yet
but he has said some things that some thought including myself, would never hear him say. >> john: candace gingrich jones many thanks for all of your hard work and activism, and thank you for joining us on "viewpoint." >> thank you for having me. >> john: come see us sometime in the studio. all right, we talk about how not to handle a crisis in college sports. it's the never ending saga of rutgers university, and it's up next.
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this show is about analyzing criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them, right? vo: the war room monday to thursday at 6 eastern >> john: as if the rest of the country needed another reason to laugh at new jersey, the state university rutgers has given them plenty of fodder. in a tutorial of how not to handle a crisis the university fired their coach only to hire a replacement coach that did not actually graduate from rutgers
ander i guess the state needed to have something to feel ashamed of since the jersey shore has been canceled. i know one man rare to go discuss the folly that is the rutgers athletic department, and that is dave zirin, sports editor of the nation host of edge of sports radio, and author of "game over: how politics has turned sports world upside down down." welcome. >> thank you. >> what the hell is going on at rutgers sports department. >> what is happening the sports department is one place oncomouse whereoncampus has had free reign every pit of his agenda has been challenged every step of the way. he can't even appear on campus without there being an impromptu protest. only in the athletic department
is there free reign and there is a clown college. there is an expression that the fish rots from the head. at rutgers we have a two-headed mutant toxic fish. and the two heads are robert bargj and governor chris christie, that was not a new jersey joke. >> john: i understand that. you say this in your piece. you discuss how this particular kerfuffle goes all the way up to governor chris christie. can you discuss that. >> the good governor today was saying he has complete confidence in robert ba rgey which is like saying this ship i'm in, the titanic the one that is taking in water, it's going to make it, i know. so judgment from chris christie, who needing to looked at this lens through the judgment perspective, let's break it down. an ambitious plan is set fourth
where rutgers will take in the new jersey college of medicine and dentistry under its wing. it will be part of the greater rutgers community. so what does chris christie do? he brings in someone like him a numbers cruncher, someone who was in position way when, but his train something more making sure that hospitals are profitable rather than making sure that patients get care. so one of those guys. and he brings him in to oversee it. and in the words of one professor i spoke to he has no interest in education and no interest in research, and no interest in students. not disdain, but just no interest whatsoever. all he worries about is how do we facilitate the takeover of the college of medicine and dentistry. this is chris christie's plan. there is one problem running a major university is about listening to people, listening to professor students, administrators, and the guy not only does he not listen but his
slogan is that the buck stop anywhere but here. he takes no responsibility for anything. he's the anti-harry truman in charge. >> john: it would be like appointing a horse breeder to be in charge of fema. >> yes yes. >> john: we talk about julie herman. many of her former players said she's very abusive and many unkind things written about her. why the reluctance to get rid of her? is it because of money they spend money in background checks and never noticed this? >> it's not the macis part, but it's on the hiring of julie herman and the credibility of chris
christie now lice with bargey, and how they protect themselves and how bureaucracies protect themselves no matter how corrupt they become. look the thing about julie had did he things that were regrettable, particularly as a coach, and assistant coach as well. it would be easy for her to say 17 years ago i did these things. i've grown a lot since then. my record speaks for itself. thank you very much. but she didn't do that. she went full bill clinton on us. she said well, i don't remember this conversation, and then 12 people say no, did you. she said i just don't remember it. and i wasn't caught on camera telling an assistant coach if you got pregnant you'll lose your job. there is not a video of that
that exists, certainly not. but here is a video. >> john: in fairness she was fired for going 77 in 106 in six seasons. but does being a bad coach mean you're a bad administrator? >> not at all. but when the school is where these things are taking place when mr. rice said all those incredible slurs which were very misogynistic in nature towards the students themselves, and then you have someone who has the history of calling her players, whores, learning disables idiots, when she's punching them in the huddle. when they say the experience of this woman made me hate the sport i loved for decades, it's a bad fit for this particular situation. look there are people out there who have very strong beliefs in
pornography. if they want to get a job as a coach, there may an fit for them bringing them on at penn state is a bad idea. it's about time, place and timing. and robert bargey, the man has no timing whatsoever, even less than his boss, chris christie. >> john: i smell one big reality show in new jersey. dave zirin, thank you for your time and expertise this evening. >> my privilege. >> john: have a great night. there are to-year-old audio tapes of nelson mandela and they confirm everything we admire about him and more. that's ahead. democrats are wrong, they know i'm going to be the first one to call them out. cenk on air>> what's unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over. cenk off air i don't want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. cenk on air you
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anything. what the hell were they thinking? you. >> john: welcome back. yesterday, cbc radio in canada broadcast audio interviews with south african icon nelson mandela made for his famous autograph long walk to freedom. the tapes release comes nearly 20 years since mandela led the movement to end apartheid and portray the civil rights leader as a man beyond bitterness having served 27 years in prison. >> you don't want to go to prison. you don't want to get arrested, but by going to jail you free yourself from the fear of the oppressor. once you rid yourself of the fear, there is nothing they can do. >> john: we're pleased to be joined by former south african broadcaster, thank you for thing here this evening.
>> it's a absolute pressure to be here. >> john: thank you for your low standards. i was marshal for the welcoming committee for mr. machine mandela before he was president, and it was one of my most exciting moments of my life. hearing these tapes take me back to hearing him speak in yankee stadium. you listened to these tapes. were you impressed as the complete lack of bitterness about his incarceration? >> yes and no, of course we're all human having gone through something of that nature, and the opposite progression you know the campaigns and the military, and taking a really good stand of being in jail and being prepared to die. as a human you think goodness, after you get that freedom after what happened to your family. i mean, his wife at the time,
his children, you would be kind of startled at such a very peaceful way of just leading on. but to me its no surprise because the person that he is, and i think mostly because of his internal freedom at that point that he already had. but i think having that internal freedom is the most important thing. for him there was no remorse any more. for him it was waiting until things have changed. for him i'm free. i've been free, and that's why he could go through all that he did. >> john: is there anything knew that we learned from these tapes that we didn't know before? >> i think he's someone who shows someone else after five minutes of meeting you and you can leave the room after meeting nelson mandela even after five minutes i know what he stands for and who he is. for me even just watching something that short, it's really no surprise.
he is who he is. he is that peacemaker. he is someone who is self assured and knows exactly what he wants to achieve and gets it done. someone who is self assured can meet the whole country and have the whole world look at him. >> john: well meet the country did he, and now we're 20 years post apartheid what is president mandela's continuing legacy for the country? >> i think our currency has a lovely picture that is made up of him with a bit of makeup, i think, but now we have his face on our money, but you i think his legacy, which is what he stands for there is the nelson mandela children's fund. there is a children's hospital. that is something that he focused on. all he talks about is children
being the future, and that to him is investment. that is what he stands for and that's the legacy that he has been trying to leave. >> john: of course mr. mandela is 94 years old now and in weakened health. what will be the affect on south africa after he passes away? >> i think--i don't even want to think about that day possible honest. i think the world and the rest of the county is preparing. i honestly think with our current turmoil that is happening in politics, with the leadership, with the corruption that might be happening and you know how government is like, there is always just a lot of turmoil. i think when he does part because he has been the father that everyone will respect and look up to and look to lead, and it will be a very sad day. i think the whole world will be
looking at south africa, and it will definitely be a time when people look in to themselves as far as where the country is going, and we've been doing a tremendous job as a toronto 20--as a country down the line. i think when he does pass away, we'll be looking at ourselves and hopefully the government will try to live up to his legacy even more. that's my hope. >> former south african broadcaster namitha ben mazwi. thank you so much for your time this evening. >> thank you. >> michele bachmann is leaving congress. for my homeys. that's coming up.
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things that the arab spring is a deoderant. i'm sorry, i have to use you will all my michele bachmann jokes because she's leaving cropping. this makes sense because she does lag behind her challenger in minnesota jim graves, and four agencies are at this time investigating her presidential campaign spending. but she swears that's not why she's leaving. here is a little of her impressively resignation video. >> the law limits anyone serving as president for the united states for more than eight years. in my opinion, well eight years is also long enough for an individual to serve as a representative for a specific congressional district. >> john: so she's retiring because eight is just a good round number. of course, eight is enough. i should write that down. let's talk about this with my panel. democratic strategist basing
smikle and forbes.com contributor rick unger and republican strategist dee dee benkie. i enjoy michele bachmann. >> i can tell. >> john: are republicans that you know breathing a sigh of relief. >> some. the tea party they're sorry to see her go. she was a pioneer. she led the effort and she was vigilant and aggressive. however, the moderate, yes that might be helpful to us. yes, the party is split. >> do you think that speaker boehner is glad she's leaving? >> could be, possibly, yes. >> john: now we have these democrats here, did congressman bachmann have any real legislative impact during her time in the house? >> absolutely none. she had none. >> that's not fair. >> john: i didn't say she wasn't
a very good fundraiser for the party. >> she was there for eight years and didn't realize that eight is enough. >> let's go by numbers. 54 bills she introduced. 50 got to committee. four of them were voted out of committee. one of them. one of them, and guess which one it was the 37th time we voted to repeal obama-care-- >> come on. >> it's true. one was reported out of the house and went to a full vote of the house. eight years one vote. >> you all cannot say that the tea party does not imagine a huge impact. >> michele bachmann. >> she was a huge part of the tea party. >> stalling any meaningful public policy. >> we said impact, good or bad. >> john: legislatively the tea party does get credit for the bush tax cuts being extended two additional years. that's been their most concrete legislative impact. but i do want to give her
credit, she was a successful fundraiser for the g.o.p. >> more than the g.o.p. but for herself. the real reason, and i talked to republican leadership today. the real reason they're happy about this, they're going hold on to her seat next year. had she kept--now they're going to hold onto the seat. >> a moderate republican. >> john: the writing was on the wall that she was not going-- >> she was there to referendum. >> we don't want to lose that seat. it's minnesota. >> john: of course, basil what was your favorite michele bachmann movement. >> it's this video. this video is ridiculously wrong. she throws in every single thing she can think of as a reason why she shouldn't be running for office. the guy i ran against the last time. i almost beat him, did i beat him. i will be able to beat him again and he's running again.
>> john: she bet him beat him by less than 1%. >> it almost sounds like another campaignedcampaign ad in her exit. >> the video was the greatest tribute to herself. one could ever hope for by my favorite michele bachmann. >> john: it's great if you have the band width. >> how they fought to end slavery until john quincy adams succeeded. >> john: what was your favorite moment in the michele bachmann time in the house. >> my favorite moment was when she was running for president and she was on stage, and she held her own. she's a good debater. she presented herself well and newt gringrich was a total jerk to her. he wouldn't say her name, and she handled that very well. >> john: let me ask you then, dee dee, as a comedian i love her. >> i bet you did.
>> john: i got nothing to do with that, but i was sitting next to al gore on election night, and i was delighted as a comic to see that she was going to be around. but what do you think ms. bachmann is going to do next. >> what is she going to run for? >> john: nothing. >> i agree. she's probably going to raise money. she's a good fundraiser maybe a political organization, i can see her. >> i know who she's going to run from the fbi. >> oh. >> you know what, the one thing that she can do because she's a successful fundraiser and she is the branded tea party, she can find a way to try to legitimatize the tea party as more of a policy party rather than the party of just being against not only democrats but republicans, also. she could probably get a little more stature than sarah palin.
>> it's more about 32 five a speech. >> john: if she raises the money. >> they need more fundraisers. >> john: and i would like to see her and marcus moore argue about gay rights. they caught her lying so many times her retirement could improve the credibility of the entire g.o.p. i'm not even kidding. we'll talk about that more after the break. to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal or is it a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them, right? vo: the war room monday to thursday at 6 eastern
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>> john: welcome back. if you don't know the website political fact, you ought to, they give ratings such as true, half true false, and pants on fire false. the center for media and public afierce for george mason university looked at ratings on the fact. they found something that might not surprise you current viewers, republicans have been caught liar three times as often as democrats during president obama's second term. 32% of republican claims in this survey were false or pants on fire compared to 11% of democrats. that's a numerical fact or is it? let's bring it back to my panel basil smikle and rick uneager and dee dee benkie. they picked up 100 factual statements in the last few
months, they did not choose every statement that every politician has ever made. >> you're only talking about the last few months. you probably need to go back further. if you look at my facebook page, everyone has probably reviewed that statement. i don't think it's the reality. democrats could be accused of actexactly the same thing maybe not as often as republicans but the democrats can be accused of the same thing. >> john: i'm not saying that the substance may not be right. maybe republicans have lied more in obama's second term and that is uniting it's base in a lot of ways. we've heard a lot of lies. however it seems such a random sampling. how unbiased do you find political fact to be? >> honestly i rely on them a great deal and i get a lot of conservatives saying you can't trust them. but it belongs to the anaberg foundation and they're about as republican as it ever got. maybe there is bias but i
haven't seen it. i really hasn't. i think they do a good job. >> john: dee dee? >> i think they're lying. >> john: you think they're lying lying? are you serious? >> when they talk-- >> john: the actually lies--i'm not disputing the lies that were lies. >> this could be manipulated in so many ways. >> john: since january 21st. >> polls are manipulated all the time. i don't think it has any credence at all. >> john: you don't deny the lies of both parties are actually lies? >> no, they're lies. >> john: the comments about lies are lies? >> a little bit. >> john: a little bit silly. >> it really is not silly. are they lies or are they not. >> are we going to talk about just since january the lies circulated around begun control that's right there you're talking about-- >> it's a gray area. >> i don't know why we want to
limit it just to january. i don't see that as important. let's go back as far back as you want to go. as someone who has spent most of their life, it seems like forever digging into the reality, i'm sorry. >> john: that is obama's fault because he was from kenya and he wasn't born here. there is actually a more critical fight brewing in dc. president obama is going to nominate a justice for the circuit of appeals. it is the second most important court. three appointments by obama could balance change the balance. is that this important? >> it is that important. they've tackled some of the most difficult issues in recent years. they are some of the best jurists in the nation, and what is stunning about this argument
is you got ostensibly intelligence senators suggesting that president obama is court packing when he wants to fill three vacantcies. senator grassley has introduced a bill to reduce the number of judges on that court from 11 to 8. that's reversal. it's stunning. yet he says he's court packing. >> john: is this a case of our republican friends playing smart politics. it's not court packing but it is igniting the base. >> and chuck grassley said let's take a look at the work load. do we really need those three other judges? yes, it is smart and you want to slow it down. the republican strategists want to throw everything down. they don't want to have three nominees at once. and this court, they struck down and they burned obama. >> john: they do like slowing
everything down as a strategy for your party. >> i do in this case. >> john: and leadership. >> it is in this case. how do you know they need all these judges. they're doing a bang-up judge. >> wow. >> john: you know, you better hope the democrats don't get a mojo for filibusters. if this happens can we see filibuster reform come from this? >> i doubt it because of harry reid. because there is just no--if you're going to do it, the momentum to do it is over. that's when you should have done it. >> john: do you agree? >> we may see filibuster reform only as it pertains to judicial appointment. >> john: i loved what rand paul did. thatthat is an area i agree with him completely. i think he's full of crab on civil--fullof crap on civil liberties
issues. >> you can't filibuster he can havecan'tstop it. >> he can. >> no, he can't. >> i would love to see a filibuster change. i don't think it's going to happen. one, because i don't think the republicans will let it happen, and i don't think harry reid is strong enough. >> john: exactly right. i think after the break we'll talk about misusing your religion and misrepresenting your policy. dee dee won't like it. that's next. guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney.
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time do i see a democrat go to a black church. >> you're talking about dells. >> yes. >> using the bible as a reason to get rid of food stamps while he takes an enormous amount of money, and i think you're going to have more to say about that. >> and dee dee? >> i don't think we should use the bible. the bible should never come up ever. anyone who has done that, i don't like the bible thumpers. >> we were nice to you. >> yes. >> you had a great time. >> yes, i feel something is coming. you're saying as quickly you're going to be mean to me. i'm ready. >> tonight we're thrilled to announce a new segment "viewpoint's" revolting fake christian of the week. the republican from tennessee used the bible so far out of context he had to apply for a visa. he recently fought to cut $4.1 billion from the supplemental nutrition
assistance program. if you only watch fox that means food stamps. and thanks to his colleagues 2 million working families have already been cut off from food assistance. during a committee debate he decided to show how christian it is to turn your back on unemployed suffering americans by quoting one of the favorite bible passages of revoltingly fake christians, 2 thessalonians 3:10, anyone unwilling to work should not work. but thessalonians is not god or jesus talking, it's believed to have been written by st. paul and many believed that jesus was coming back really soon and the world was going to end anyway, so why work. they were hurting the local economy and hurting the society of thessalonica and paul makes a good point. kirk cameron still shows up at his job. in that context the quote makes
sense. in the congressman's context it's opposite of everything that jesus christ ever stood for. he went on to say quoting from the book book of selfish toolry, the control of christians is to take care of each other but not for washington to steal from those in the country and give to others in the country. really, washington steals and gives to others? while passing bills and taking food out of the mouth of the poor he was supporting a proposal to expand crop insurance by $9 billion, and i'm sure the fact that he's the second most heavily subsidized farmer in congress has nothing to do with this. between 1999 and 2012, opponents of for a lazy people put out his tin cup and collected $3.5 million in government money. he's not just the welfare queen but he has the moat and castle. they get the subsidy of $1,500.
in 2012 he was cut a subsidy check for $75,000 which is nearly double the median household income in all of tennessee. he votes to cut food stamps and expand crop insurance subsidy funds by $9 million. this guy has so much dirty pork he could single-handedly fund the muslims and the jews. yes, jesus said to feed the poor but he we shouldn't do it. if you want to follow jesus christ who constantly talks about feeding the poor, then as he commanded in matthew 25, that filthy hippy but the g.o.p. don't do this. they cut help for the poor. if you don't want your tax dollars to help the poor, then stop saying that you follow christian values because you don't. that's why he's our revoltingly
fake christian of the week. i want to thank this panel basil smikle, rick uneager and my new republican bff dee dee benkie. good night mom we'll see you tomorrow. >> joy: tonight from the hit we'reries, i'll talk to the braxtons. we're busting out with braxtons. and i'll talk about crista who ease memoir documents her journey after the tragic death of her twin sister. all of that and more tonight on "say anything." [♪ theme music ♪] >> joy: what do you get when you put together five braxton
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