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i would have gone on the trip but you know i would not have put myself and my parents on the time daniel but it's a game that they're due for a beautifully who would. love one son to the other one of the world to them i had serious problems on a personal level and i was unable to live their lives i'm going to. want to know their story and for migrants terrified and reliable information for margaret's. baby go get a. heavy metal football is back out for his daughter once you see him father is a man with a plan is god give me the sign show elaine even though outcasts can they go all the way to shift. is the fun is league it's just a training ground for young talent how can believe change and keep those talents here in germany doug thanks.
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welcome to the show i'm hakko today with me are tom and ed and boys let's talk about one of the hardest things not only in the bundesliga but in europe but also dog ones we can chat about that plenty of time so we've got this time and today so we can you know shout when the time is right pretty much when i do that. that's going to happen so buzz me you are getting buzz anyway if you get me started review of the abbey house it was a boys you should sign and obviously i know you saw it. it's always an absolute davian of a bell that she had a very wise decision to get to englishman to come and talk about this particular one given the fact that an englishman won but obviously pretty torn was loving watching that made most of my mates the shark a fan so i didn't really have such
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a great target for enough for the drama for the nutro it was certainly wants work there more than a change from last year i mean there was also another sick game but here for dawn fans it wasn't really the best games let's take a look over here boys i want to show you guys a video from last year's darby yeah any comparison from the four four four four here ok. just listen. some is love the pin library was nice typical but i mean i just tried you know i mean hey a boy last night didn't last didn't last much longer after that i mean to be fully off but look this is this here this is now and that's how they receive their fans they receive the team and their training ground just look at your touchy body and it's a party and you like i mean it really is pretty much twelve months off for the off time they were late last used to obviously go and drill for oil out of the marshes again look at the face of this tar buckle completely round that guy. is enjoying
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life for a world war difference and you can make that point and not to change you coach and you know the introduction of a few new talents and they really seem to turn things around all right so let's get down to the business the coach who some fava going to use the time as i said let's give it a couple minutes. ago was in public what has he changed the dog and what and see what has been the changes that he has created at the team that has brought it to what it is today well i think i think one of the main things don't we thought this season i took a bit of a gamble on bosch last year he'd never he never would. the but is it before he done very well of all expert to come in and when you don't really know the league ended up being that their own doing they didn't do very well on the hip so they really experience at this time almost three hundred games he's coaching abundantly with. back done very well it needs some as well really good tactician knows the leak loves to blood young players and i mean he's obviously just smashing it but people thought bush was going to do really well off and they started to season well and he
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said that will come off so i think i know the neat thing is a big point like you said you know i mean it's ok to do well at the dutch league is not the bundesliga fov or somebody who's got proven credentials in the league he's somebody who's also managed to calm things down quite a bit because even when bush was doing really well at the start of the season you know this big inflated hype sort of took off and it didn't take very long only a couple of you know really dodgy results especially of course that game against you know threw away a form the lead that was just a nail in his coffin very quickly and when things started to go wrong he didn't really look like he had much of a plan with father somebody who's got a bit of a cool head knows how to deal with his players as well he's not you know he doesn't hang on and. so any of the big names that have previously you know caused problems for dortmund in their dressing room a little bit just because you don't really know what to do with them as a coach father doesn't really seem to be suffering from that problem and that's why things are looking i mean born technician i'm going to show you guys another video
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let's take a look at this one is him back in the day so we can take a look at that and just see just how crazy he's playing look at all things like i. believe. i think that it does you've got to show what tactical know if he's a madman and also i mean he's not just he's not just a guy with a plan he's a guy with the right plan for dortmund this is the sort of football fans love to see you know it's like what we said it's heavy heavy metal coat it it's far counter-attacking football but impatiens when you put the ball within the ball but with a high pressure and he said he's going play in the way they remember playing the last time the cops the way they're supposed to team like dorman is supposed to play
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back back in the day we had it with a club that already knew them are around europe for their taking pressing right it was what clarke was about and now finally domon are back into being a team that tactic wise they're they're on it isn't just knowing what to do with your players as well i mean we've got this stop on us twice right ten shots on goal ten shots on target days tangos so far this season he was the top of our class and he hardly played come on as a substitute every single time and every television hit the ball there was so no keeper though they would say i didn't believe all that is not all that darby he teach school at all every twenty eight minutes it was a record i mean the speeches if you tell him don't weaken it comes on it doesn't his father knows when to bring him on you know he's coming on one of a team to tie and he but you know the school as it goes as a substitute and he was not awesome so as well when going to get a star but you don't seem so yeah russian or you say it was so you don't know that that's what what the team needs and what it works also we have a lot of young players he's able to just harness that energy and that youth and
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just bring it on top i mean boys they're both from england. you know is just a new great play somebody coming over and smashing in the bundesliga about our son joseph is the right man basically hype though yeah. yeah he's so young and he's been doing it he obviously believed his own hype when he was at city because he went to the owner and said play me you're gone. because you haven't but with obviously you know i want to i want to spoil all now so you know with a seventeen you're not saying you're good but well everyone will. can reveal that connection with him i mean he was like an older bloke i mean like that but i've seen him hugging him on the on the sidelines plenty of times it seems like they have a great great connection in many ways it's just kind of like you know he's of like a really nice uncle or someone yeah i don't know he's just he just he's able to bring that out of the kid but he's got he's got the blend just right because you'll see. that blood back you know sing really well and he was like a young buck when he was working with him before but now when harry is the older
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experienced phenomenally talented and instrumental release and he's parent with these youngsters again so sanchez learning from royce now and he's just got this phenomenal fight again it does make money off me that it was all going to be fair we do so kind of manage the. talk about it we didn't like about it but anybody in the play that's what i mean all the boys what has changed let's go this is what it is to blend in the squad like it's a school it's got the sort of old dog and plays that well semi successful for some of them from the old days makes them so well the on the play people in the likes of kimi who's a nineteen year old from real madrid playing in left back not even in his right position and he smashed it he's getting assists he's playing well in the champions league and left back was a big problem for dortmund that shelter has gone way off the boil for years so to bring him in it's fantastic now what competition in some shows royce is being played. there's goals in the squad now visible and the lainey brand new sentiment full partnership the whole squad just looks so fresh and it's such
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a nice mix next there any i think was really a fantastic song and i think that was really going to show competence in someone like thomas to learn who's just a model professional a really hard worker somebody to whom the badge on his chest means so much thing technically so it will lead to yeah exactly you know knows the league from his time frame and i mean his career has just gone from strength to strength and i personally am very pleased to see him because i would have dormant even though like i said all moments which i thought let's take a look at what the win this league official brings the a website has to say about the team as well i mean yeah there they're. hypothermia bit right there really into it let's take a look at what they have to say about it like they do have a clear footballing identity this time around haitian build up and they're defensive they're really solid defensively and you know they have pockets as we mentioned just the goals we see the results to see thomas the lady there just saw her just sort of it versions on the plane it would have to be a strange look at what's called and i would be happy if. you didn't. think
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it was so obviously it's a massive for the women and when they played you know the first game that they played against that it's going to drift in the champions league this season was just phenomenal that's one of the best defenses in the world just took them apart i mean for the for any even even if it doesn't you know even if. things go wrong for them at the end of this season. to have stood in the stadium and watched your team destroy madrid for neo on the champions league no i mean if that's why they. are in the same year they lost it talking about attack you know a single one of the one of the world's fastest strikers absolutely brilliant he's doing well also so you know it just goes to show he's gone on to bigger and better things perhaps well i mean you could get one of these if you can dispute that because we have somebody out. there who just came from barcelona let's take
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a look at another video just i mean it's got kind of a bit of a love letter things too i mean already germany is a story province the final seven look at this is a love letter to the doctor his love letter to come here to look at this. he's the new gold machine after all the stuff of great. love us thank you. letter product we know that and of course you know he went to barcelona but you can stay there too long now arsenal are the casing of who can we get in instead of but i mean it's an absolute deal for dalton was just getting at play of his his caliber and just getting somebody else that good you know i mean well very much shifted they should let's not play to win over the course last season it was fantastic for the start the campaign was monday to balance their shifty off to boston and took back over here and i think they've done really well because their belly he was striking to get himself away from dortmund and you know messing around acting like an immature kid just started to get myself in trouble to bosler as well they did
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well to wash their hands of him. and he looked like a very good decision but if you look at it it's looking at a poor decision from barcelona now because you know he's worked up and they've had that cluelessly relatively cheaply and also you don't just treat it that immediately and it's like golf and that's that's been their plan so far i mean they have had kimi from real madrid from barcelona you mention from city is it just don't win is this place where we're all these stars that don't. make the big break up this huge teams get to shine in circles always just been a base always been a really big names and i mean you know even for people looking at looking outside of germany at the been listening to everybody knows bruce you don't win even though they haven't won a title since the prop years you know it's just. an institution of a club and a very attractive place to come and play if you were a young player and you know once everybody gets to see what jaden sanchez has done this year i think they're going to be plenty of young talents who will be very keen to follow in his footsteps because he's proven that the model works. and he's going
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to either going to run on and win the title i mean he's going to he's going to be a team we're talking about. yeah but yeah no i mean really i think when the time. taken when the final the big players get some hilarious comments if in a month well to start the whole six games all. about it. was boys as of. now by the time let's go to another topic and that is the future how can a team like this keep those talent exactly what we've just been saying that if the wheels come off that's the main issue here i mean yeah ok they could they could they had won the league last season they still won the likes of delaney and it's all have been under bush though we all thought at the beginning ok they're on be in for a long time term and it felt like ok they're going to go all the way now and then but i mean all part even even now it's been they've gone further than they did under bush i mean now they're fourteen games in the league beaten bush i think
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maybe money seven or eight install i think if you thought it was also more of the my memory might be failing me he did make it. not yet see if you lost you lost that game against by munich that was that was very decisive yes then and but anyway that's a yes now i mean fourteen games they need they need to keep that going that's the answer to the question of how those if they win the league this season suddenly become even more of an attractive proposition so yeah ok censure join. to join but it wasn't i there were tons of clubs in form but they just they were very smart they picked up these players but now with the squad they've got if they can go on and win something suddenly suddenly some some players the other clubs are interested in might think you know what i'm not going to go to munich there's something exciting happening at dortmund so they need to they need to make it this year because they don't again think. why would i join the problem is like you said the score that they've got sanchez is just on the new contract but it's hard to imagine that he's really going to stay stay for even for the spell of his contract it seems like you know he just wants the club to get more money for him when he
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eventually goes. packo's ok kimi is now on a two year loan from real madrid you know the question is really if they can actually begin to sign players not only because. people may say they may think that we're we're just don't want fans here but we're not we want to take a look and see what how can the team in the booth be able to fend off against you know the money that man city might throw at them or somebody like you say we're not we're not gotten fans but we've been this league of fans which is what so important for another team to win the league this season yeah it's a big thing killing in the in this league is this runaway success by have every season be a massive story it's not title race it's just a cancer for buying every year this time we've got an actual race on our hands even better than that by end of blogging behind it's so important for the league that somebody else wins where we don't have someone else no one really cares as long as it's not by just at least one season you guys feel that maybe maybe the model will change at dawn of sam selling those players when buying comes knocking and says hey
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i want your love and that's easier said i want you yes and it's but it doesn't seem like an attractive place to go does it i mean if you could if you could you know if you were jane sanchez absolutely campaigning at dortmund now in the bundesliga and by munich come along and say are there any fancy money that gal now you know why would you bother it looks like a club in decay there's a squad that needs to refresh it so from you know it's going to basically fall apart in few months time there are players there who are going to leave who dominate. in iraq the con really much longer you know we'll see what happens in the transfer window and stuff but. that's all the time we have to talk about top ones but stick around we're going to be talking about the bundesliga in general is it just a training ground for the other top leagues. that will see this discuss if hell is work out. did you know kick off is now on you tube with the well the folks. would like you a quad go on the banks because well through to read we travel the world can bring
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anything you france is all right i'm going to sign you know this stuff because you never people who call and discuss football i'm chris here it's. all. because of football because when you cheat. i think you. guys welcome to the show today with me are adam and tom and today we'll be talking about the book in this league is it just a training ground for the bigger leagues why are all the best players of the bun this the leaving boys in order to keep us in check and to remind you guys that we have a timer so if you guys talk too much i'm going to have to bust you so anyway what can the business get you to keep the best players stay saying here in germany we're going to do money in this to play a more. i mean need to be competitive needs to be competitive on a bigger level needs to start shelling games on mondays tuesdays where on
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a one on it's in the week or you know every different time of the day. this is so big t.v. deals abroad needs money because at the moment the only team even with you know a slim chance of being competitive european level is by munich. well that's what this season but they're not really there are going to go what we have this season is a lot of citing young players and that's what we see that with people like you don't sign cho also we have reason elson. kimi we have a lot of young players that are here in this league and they're making really exciting this season i know where you're going when you mention above by munich and having that money but i mean so far so good this year is what is really exciting tom and i obviously being english is really exciting season c two english youth academy products one from manchester city one from austin all recent elson moved to the bonus league or. nelson's on loan but some show actually said you know what i'm going to go over there i'm not willing to sell the bench any longer he was offered good money to stay at man city and he thought no i want to go and prove myself i
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don't want to just be one of these players that slowly put it into a team he felt ready and we see in seeing great results both of them actually smashing it for their respective clubs and you know what as tom mentioned just now yes it's about money but it's also about competition and central has been a big part of the fact that dortmund occult a competitive this season and i think a lot of young players are thinking well look look at sanchez look at nelson look at that look at it going to done. they get experience for the first time to put themselves in the shop window even though this all adds to the whole it's a training ground thing as well back to the point i was in it because it is very i just accept that they're putting themselves in the shop window and hoping that eventually. man see mark come knocking again and say look we're going to give you a place to play man you know it might come barcelona might come real madrid might come these are still the real top destinations for players who want to show it was getting playing time at eighteen years old he sang the time of his life it was your daughter eighteen years old eighteen he's only got there you go away well how how
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long is he going to be happy just to be getting playing time i mean look right now obviously bruce you don't is a fantastic place to be but it's not always like that and like recent it was and is often are i'm ok he's young he's getting a lot of planes on he's doing well he's you know showing his talent to everybody he's performing really well in the business and of course it's a fantastic experience to play in german stadiums and stuff and you know there are plenty of reasons why it's an attractive place to play but he's young he's on loan and he's hoffenheim if he really wants to be a top top player eventually that's not going to be enough for him but they will stick around longer at such a particularly if he gets a lead with his medal that will help if you can be part of the team that wins the league of course life and obviously you want to so they have to maintain the success. that you want us down for anyone who we have this before boys we've had players like kevin the point we've had also the bell you know the messages are getting on a and they just leave they do this is a long well i think in some of those cases ok
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kimbell a was probably you know he's picked up obviously dormant it felt like a big break to him and he's gone to bigger and better things but if you take the broiler as an example i don't think anyone has ever put themselves in a shop window more than he did but the point is they go to the get go if you well i mean it was it was perfect for deploying things didn't work out chelsea he thought i'm not going to i don't want to do next we thought you know we're going to go back to the bundesliga on any one player of the year straight back out to man city and it's slightly terrified fees but if we get clubs to think ok let's build a team around someone like the broiler because you know he doesn't i mean in his case specifically particularly i mean he didn't want to state it he always wanted to get a big move he went back to c.e.o. no there's no i mean he was a boy spoke here. braman it was in a very good voice book team now yes he was with a live in iraq isn't that beneficial also for the league i mean at the end of the day who's talking about what sport internationally is and that you're in that year they were all talking about yeah of course of course and it's good to see. there's a time on it but eventually the border can be evolved for a long time he can be part of the fantastic was both saw it everybody can be
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looking of those who all of a sudden this thing are you know that little belgian that they've got is not bad but eventually they're going to get buzz because somebody comes along with bigger money who can offer him better career prospects in law in england or you know in other places in europe to actually give them the end of a come knocking you know i mean the actual charge if you if you professional athlete and want to achieve things at the highest level possible in your field and manchester city come along and say look leave those people beyond it's not even an aunt's town are coming to mind just we're going to be in the champions league we're going to have a you know the we've got pep guardiola we're going to win pretty tight was coming and of course you're going to go and do that you know the sad thing is not even it's not even just that it's not even pep guardiola i mean look at much more they played it played nearly two hundred games before twenty two for shell could be dolling from gelsen can they like pride and joy and he's and he's not even going to run you know it'll boss alone or you venice or city he was going to crystal palace he just cashed in i mean ok a lot of times you can think ok to bring it in belly of
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course they try to go on to bigger and better things but but there's also that's just the most also the downside we just think well why did what would you do that would you stop playing champions league games to go to places like crystal palace massive bag of cash. and that's that's two things happen if they go up against us they haven't got the prestige to keep hold of these players but they certainly haven't got the cash that i mean crystal palace you know they were nobody team in england no difference christian values but i mean that but it's the premier league and this is absolutely awash with money so the biggest thing is really up against it but i'm going to get do that and we have a lot of rules here that are not allowing us to have all that money in take. as i mean these are a different question and it's a toss up between whether you want to maintain a fantastic football and fine culture or you really want to compete at the highest level and go with the former are not going to be in your name that's not what you got to you with next off make the fans were they were they stay in all this i mean as you said if you want to keep the fans you want to keep this atmosphere that wind
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is the i have what makes the league special how can you do that well if you're going to start it's ok i know you're going to be every day is what the north korea goes in creation of have to watch in the past few years we're listing all the players that they've they've lost. a son a son i know the red sky they're going to you know to i'm just a good team but really the only one who can compete in europe it was he was not. right it wasn't something that. i mean unbelievable and later kerry yeah exactly i mean that could seriously be like one of the best teams in the world that scored on paper if they if that's your group of players that stays together on real i mean you can't put a limit on the possibilities that scored like that you know had could have had and they would just go so as a fan i mean he's your kind of longsuffering you have to basically be content you know. he also has a season here in
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a low yeah but it's like we've seen with sanchez and we've seen with nelson ok it's annoying because you can't plan long term but there is obviously a flip side now i'm not saying it's all a good thing i can see both sides but also suddenly to play a lot nelson in you know ok he's going to be gone next season but for one season you go play at smashing those you know their son ok century came from countries come for free essentially all day it's become such a little kimi from real madrid ok not probably going to be a long term left at all that different seasonal it's money that they've given to take in they're taken by on the season and they've got sunshine in a school they got for a century nothing at all kimi like i said so yeah ok it's not long but there's also some short term funds to be had by taking some of the young play. it's a knowing they're going to leave eventually so you can have it all you can't you could choose i mean you want a short term fun of having a brilliant young player join the long term misery of knowing there's something to be said for having a bit short. i mean if if if hoffenheim could somehow win the league with with players like nice nelson and then they would leave in
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