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welcome to the show i'm hakko today with me are tom and ed boys let's talk about one of the hottest themes not only in the in the sea but in europe but also don't want we can chat about that plenty of time so we got this time and today so we can you know shuts out when the time is right pretty much when i do that. that's going to happen so bugs me you are getting but anyway if you get me started review of the abbey house it was a voice you should sign and obviously i know you saw it always it's always an absolute cool comic davian of a belushi and a very wise decision to get to englishman to come and talk about this particular one given the fact that an englishman won the doggie for pursuit and was nothing watching that night most moments a shark a fan so i didn't really have such a great target for enough in the drama for the news for it was certainly wants watching more than a change from last year i mean there was also another sick game but here for dawn
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fans it wasn't really the best game let's take a look over here boys i want to show you guys a video from last year darby yeah any comparison from the four for full force you. should just listen to. some us love the pin library was nice. but i mean i just tried you know i mean play a boy last night didn't last didn't last much longer after that i mean to be fully off but look this is here this is now he definitely received this fans and he received the team and their training ground just look at that yes actually it's a party you like i mean it really is pretty much twelve months on off time they were playing last year's dobby i think i would do a full full without the marchioness again look at the faces ishtar park or people you know that guy. is enjoying life for a good world war difference and you can make that point and not the train you coach you know the introduction of a few new talents and they were used to just have things around all right so let's
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get down to the business the coach through some fava i'm going to use the time as i said let's give it a couple minutes. ago i was in public what has he changed on what i see what has been the changes that he has created at the team that has brought it to what it is today well i think i think one of the main things don't wait for the season i took a bit of a gamble on bosch last year he never you never really. the book is a before he done very well of all expert to come into a big man when you don't really know the league ended up being that they are doing they didn't do very well under him so they really experience at this time almost three hundred games he's coaching abundantly with. back done very well at nice as well really good should knows the leigh loves to blood young players and i mean he's obviously just smashing it but people thought bush was going to do really well and i started to see him well and he said to will's came off so i think the neat thing is a big point like you said i mean it's ok to do well at the dutch league is not the
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bundesliga somebody who's got a proven credentials in the league he's somebody who's also managed to calm things down quite a bit because even when bush was doing really well at the start of the season you know this big inflated hype sort of took off and it didn't take very long only a couple of you know really dodgy results especially of course that game against cheika where they you know threw away a form the old lead that was just a nail in this coffin very quickly and when things started to go wrong he didn't really look like he had much of a plan with father and somebody who's got a bit of a cool head knows how to deal with his players as well it is not you know he doesn't hang on and. so any of the big names that have previously you know cause problems for dortmund in their dressing room a little bit just because you don't really know what to do with them as a coach father doesn't seem to be suffering from that problem and that's why things are looking i mean born technician i'm going to show you guys another video let's take a look at this one there's him back in the day so we can take a look at that and just see just how crazy he's playing look at things like i.
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believe. he. i. think it does you've got to show what tactical nerd he is a madman and also i mean he's not just he's not just a guy with a plan he's a guy with the right plan for thought and this is the sort of football fans love to see this but like we said it's heavy heavy metal coated it's far counter-attacking football but inpatients when you put the ball within the ball but with a high pressure and he said he's going to play in the way they remember playing the last time the clubs the way they're supposed to team like dawn is supposed to play back back in the day we had it with club with everybody knew them around europe for their taking pressing right there was what clarke was about and now finally domon are back into being a team that tactic wise they're there on it was i just know what to do with your
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players as well i mean we've got this stop on us twice right ten shots on go ten shots on target days ten goals so far this season it was the type of he hardly played come on as a substitute every single time and every time i mean hit the ball it wasn't so no keeper no they would say i didn't believe all that is not all that darby he teach school to call every twenty eight minutes i was with the record i mean this because if you tell him don't weaken it comes on and does it his father knows when to bring him on you know he's coming on one of a team to tie and he but you know he's cool as a goes as a substitute and he was thought awesome serves well when going to get a star but you don't see it yet rational he said was sorry not know that that's what what the team needs and what it works also we have a lot of young players he's able to just harness that energy and youth and just bring on top i mean boys did well from england. he is just a new great play somebody coming over to smash him in the in this league
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a lot about his son joseph is the right man basically hype though it makes me look like isn't it yeah he says i was young and he's been doing it he obviously believed his own hype when he was at city because he went to the owner and said play me or i'm gone. because you had an incident but with obviously you're not wanted i want to spoil all now so you know the seventeen you're not selling your but well my very life with. that connection with him i mean he was like an older bloke i mean like that but i've seen him hugging him on the sidelines plenty of times it seems like they have a great great connection in many ways it's just kind of like you know it's of like a really nice uncle or someone yeah i don't know it's just he just he's able to bring it out of the kid but he's got he's got a plan just right because obviously royce he worked a lot back you know sing really well and he was like a young buck but when he was working with him before but now inherited this old experienced phenomenally talented and instrumental royce and his parent and with these youngsters again so sanchez learning from royce now and he's just got this
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phenomenal fight again it does make me often that a bust although to be fair we do say kind of money. i was talking about a place where it really was very early in the play it is what i mean all the boys want has changed let's go to city so that is the blend in the squad like it's a school it's got the sort of old school and plays that well semi successful for some of them from the old properties makes them so wealthy on the play people in the likes of kimi who's a nineteen year old from real madrid playing in left back not even in his right position and he smashed it he's getting assists he's playing well in the champions league and left back was a big problem for dortmund they had smelt so he'd gone way off the boil for years so to bring him in it's fantastic now what competition in some shows royce is being played. there's goals in the squad now this is the rule and the lainey brand new sentiment full partnership the whole squad just looks so fresh and there's such a nice mix there any i think was really a fantastic signing nothing that was really good to show confidence in someone like thomas to learn he was just a model professional
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a really hard worker somebody to whom the bites on his chest means so much thing technically so it will lead to yeah exactly you know knows the league from his time frame and i mean yeah his career is just going from strength to strength and i personally i'm very pleased to see him because i want to talk much even though like i said all my mates shy so let's take a look at what the official brings the a website has to say about the team as well i mean yeah there they're. hype the team a bit right there really into it or let's take a look at what they have to say about it like they do have a clear footballing identity this time around haitian build up and their defense of the really solid defensively and you know they have parked like us as we mentioned just the goals we see the results are see thomas the lady there just saw it as so often versions of the line it would have to be a strange look at what cost it would be out there of all packed away that community but i think that it's actually the pasting it was overseas so massive for the women and when they played the first game that they played against that that's going to do it in the champions league this season was just phenomenal that's one of the
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best defenses in the world amassing a woman just took them apart i mean yeah for the for any fun even even if it doesn't you know even if. things go wrong for them at the end of this season. to have stood in the stadium and watched your team destroy classical madrid for neo on the champions league no i mean if that's why they. ended up in the same year they lost it talking about talking to a cyclist one of the one of the world's fastest strikers absolutely brilliant he's doing well also so you know you just goes to show you've gone on to bigger and better things perhaps well i mean you could get one of these if you can dispute that because we have somebody. who just came from barcelona let's take a look at another video just i mean it's got kind of a bit of a love letter thing too i mean there was already germany that sort of paid off its profile you know some of the goodness and love letters back of his love letter to
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come here to look at this because he's been your goal machine at that point is the obvious stuff for all the right. that love us thank you. but let's a product we know that and of course you know he went to barcelona but you can stay there too long now barcelona casing. who can we get in instead of but i mean it's an absolute deal for golf and wasn't just getting it play. of his caliber getting somebody that's not good well. they should that's not the place to do a little see last last season it was fantastic from the start the campaign was monday their shifted off to boston and took back over i think they've done really well because it was striking to game so far away from dortmund and you know messing around acting like an immature kid just started to get himself in trouble of barcelona as well they did well to wash their hands of him. and he looked like a very good decision. but you look at us looking at the poor decision from buffalo now because you know he's worked up in the navy and he had that clueless they could
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buy relatively cheaply and also don't just treat it that immediately and it's like golf and that's that's been their plan so far i mean they have to keep me from real madrid they are popular now from barcelona sanchez mention from city is it just don't mean is this place where are all these stars that don't make their big break at this huge teams get to shine things or does it was just been a it was been a really big names and i mean you know even for people looking at looking outside of germany at the blue listening to everybody knows bruce you don't win even though they haven't won a title since the prop years you know it's just. an institution of a club and a very attractive place to come and play if you were a young player and you know once everybody gets to see what jaden sanchez has done this year i think they going to be plenty of young talents who will be very keen to follow in his footsteps because he's proven that the model works. and he's going to either going to run on and win the title i mean he's going to he's going to be eighteen we're talking about. yeah but yeah no i mean really i think when the time
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. when the final the big players get some hilarious comments if in a month old to start their whole six. boys as of right now the time let's go to another topic and that is the future how can a team like this though keep those towns exactly what we've just been saying that if the will come off that's the main issue here i mean yeah ok they could they could but they had won the league last season they still won lots of delaney and it so happened under bush though we all thought at the beginning ok they're on be in for a long time term and it felt like ok we're going to go all the way now and then but i mean all part even even now it's been for they've gone further than they did under bush i mean. fourteen games in the league beaten bush i think maybe managed seven or eight and start to get a few dodgy results in more of the more memory might be for. he didn't make himself not. just he lost that game against by munich there was there was very decisive yet
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then and but anyway that's a yes now i mean fourteen games they need they need to keep that going that's the answer to the question now but if they win the league this season suddenly become even more of an attractive proposition so yeah ok center joined and which will join but it wasn't i there were tons of clubs in form but they just they were very smart they picked up these players but now with the squad they've got if they can go on and win something suddenly suddenly some some players the other clubs are interested in might think you know what i'm not going to go to munich there's something exciting happening at dortmund so they need to they need to make it this year because if they don't again i think it's like why would i join also part of the problem is like you said the score that they've got sanchez is just on the new contract but it's hard to imagine that he's really going to stay stay for even for the spell of his contract it seems like you know he just wants the club to get a bit more money for him when he eventually goes. packo's ok kimi is now on a two year loan from real madrid you know the question is really if they can
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actually begin to sign players not really going to. be facing people made me think that we're we're just don't want fans here but we're not we want to take a look and see what how can the team in the bundesliga be it be able to fend off against you know the money that man city might throw at them or somebody like what you say we don't find but we would put this league of fans which is why it's so important for another team to win the league this season yeah it's a killing in the in this league is this runaway success by have every season there would be a massive story it's not title race it's just a cancer for by every year this time we've got an actual race on our hands even better than that buying of blagging behind it's so important for the leak that somebody else wins where we don't need someone else no one really k.'s as long as it's not blind just at least one season where you guys feel that maybe maybe the model will change at dawn of st selling those players when buying comes knocking and says hey i want your love and that's easier said i want you know this isn't this but it doesn't seem like an attractive place to go does it i mean. if you can you know if you want jaden sanchez absolutely campaigning at dortmund now in the
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bundesliga and buy munich come along and say are there any fancy money that cal no . it looks like a club indicate there's a squad that needs to reach refresh it so from you know it's going to basically fall apart and few months time there are players there who are going to leave who've dominated era that con really go much longer you know we'll see what happens in the transfer window and stuff but. that's all the time we have to talk about top ones but stick around we're going to be talking about the bundesliga in general is it just a training ground for the other top leagues. that will see this discuss if hell is work out. did you know kick it off is now when you. were like you. know a lot of banks go well. we travel the world can bring the thing you know my friends as all right i'm going to say no to stuff because i never. discuss football i have
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chris here and. we're going to. do all. those football kickoff on you to. continue. hey guys welcome to the show today with me are at it. and there will be talking about the bundesliga is it just a training ground for the bigger leagues why are all the best players of the bun this the leaving boys in order to keep us in check to remind you guys that we have a timer so if you guys talk too much i'm going to have to bust you so anyway what kind of win this get you to keep the best players stay saying here in germany you're going to do money you need to pay more. i mean need to be competitive needs to be competitive on a bigger level needs to start shelling scheduling games on mondays tuesdays where no nights of the week or you know every different time of the day. this is so big t.v. deals abroad needs money because at the moment the only team even with you know
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a slim chance of being competitive european level is by munich. well that's what the season but they're not really they're going to go what we have this season is a lot of citing young players and that's what we see that with people like you don't sign cho also we have reason elson hakimi we have a lot of young players that are here in this league and they're making it really exciting the season i know where you are when you mention about by munich and having that money but i mean so far so good this year is what is really exciting tom and i obviously being english is really exciting the season see two english youth academy products one from manchester city jags one from austin all recent elson moved to the bonus league or. nelson's on loan but sanchez actually said you know what i'm going to go over there i'm not willing to sell the bench any longer he was off the good money to stay at man city and he thought no i want to improve myself i don't want to just be one of these players that slowly butted into a team he felt ready and we see in seeing great results both of them actually
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smashing it for their respective clubs and you know what as tom mentioned just now yes it's about money but it's also about competition and sunshine has been a big part of the fact that dortmund occult a competitive this season and i think a lot of young players are thinking well look look at sanchez look at nelson look at them look at it going to done. they get an experience of the first time he put themselves in the shop window even i know this all adds to the whole is it a training ground thing that's all back to the point that was in it because it is very have to accept that they're putting themselves in the shop window and hoping that eventually. see mark come knocking again and say look we're going to give you a place to play man you know it might come boss alona might come real madrid might come these are still the real top destinations for players who want to join joe was getting playing time at eighteen years old he sang the time of his life it was your daughter eighteen years old eighteen years old i got to you right away well how how long is he going to be happy just to be getting playing time i mean look right now obviously bruce you don't know is a fantastic place to be but it's not always like that and like reason knows and is often are i'm ok he's young he's getting
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a lot of planes on he's doing well he's you know showing his talent to everybody he's performing really well in the bundesliga and of course it's a fantastic experience to play in german stadiums and stuff and you know there are plenty of reasons why it's an attractive place to play but he's young he's on loan and he's hoffenheim if he really wants to be a top top player eventually that's not going to be enough for him but they will stick around longer at such a particularly if you get a medal that will help if they if you can be part of the team that wins the league of course you stay for another season or two so they have to maintain the success all you've done. for anyway but we have this before boys we've had players like kevin the point we've had also the bell a now the many shots on eight and they just they do this is a long well i think in some of those cases ok tim bell a was probably you know he's picked up obviously dormant felt like a big break to him and he's gone to bigger and better things but if you take the brain as an example i don't think anyone has ever put themselves in
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a shop window more than he did but the point is they got to look at they go if you well i mean it was it was perfect for deploying things didn't work out chelsea he thought i'm not going to i don't want to do next week well you know want to go back to the. one player of the year straight back out to man city and it's slightly terrified fees but if we get clubs to think ok let's build a team around someone like the blowing up because you know he doesn't i mean in his case specifically particularly i mean he didn't want to state it he always wanted to get a big move if he went back to c.e.o. or not does not mean he was a voice book yet. braman he was in a very good boastful team now yes he was little if any reason that officials over the league i mean at the end of the day who talk about what spoke internationally is ended up during that year we were all talking about of course of course and it is good to see. there's a time on it but eventually the bully can be a voice for a long time he can be part of the fantastic voice spoke saw it everybody can be looking at most would of a sudden they think are you know that they were both in that they've got is not bad but eventually they're going to get buzz because if somebody comes along with
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bigger money you can offer him better career prospects in law in england or you know in other places in europe actually go look at them the length of a come knocking you know i mean the actual chance if you if your professional athlete and want to achieve things at the highest level possible in your field and manchester city come along and say look leave for school beyond it's not even a nice town are coming to mind just we're going to be in the champions league we're going to have you know the we've got pep guardiola we're going to win premier league top was coming and of course you're going to go and do that you know the sad thing is it's not even it's not even just that it's not even pep guardiola i mean look at my. plate played me two hundred bullets the games before he's twenty two for shout could be dolling from galston taken a lot of pride and joy and he's out he's not even going to run you know it'll boss alone or you venice or city he was going to crystal palace he just cashed in i mean ok a lot of times you can think ok deployment them barely of course they try to go on to bigger and better things but but there's also that's just the most also the downside we just think well why did what would you do that what would you stop
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playing champions league games to go to play for i crystal palace massive bag of cash. and that's that's two things one is they were up against yes they haven't got the prestige to keep hold of these players but they certainly haven't got the cash that i mean crystal palace they were nobody team in england no difference christian values but i played in that but it's the premier league and there's just absolutely awash with money so the biggest thing is we're up against it but how can does it do that and we have a lot of rules here that are not allowing us to have all that money in take. as i mean these are a different question and it's a toss up between whether you want to maintain a fantastic football and find culture or you really want to compete at the highest level and go with the former. not really i think that's not what you got to do you will be next off make the fans where they were they stay in all this i mean as you said if you want to keep the fans you want to keep this atmosphere the bundesliga has what makes the league special how can you do that well if you're going to start talking i know you're going to be every day is what the north korea goes incursion
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the fact to watch in the past few years we're listing all the players that they've they've lost. a son a sign of. the red sky they're going to you know to have just a good team but really the only one who can compete in europe it was so we got. rocketed right you know there's an. unbelievable plays you know kerry yeah exactly i mean that could seriously be like one of the best teams in the world that scored on paper if they if that's your group of players that stays together on real life i mean you can't put a limit on the possibilities that scored like that you know had could have had and they all just go so as a fan of yours you're kind of long suffering you have to basically be content you know. also it was of the season here and alone you have a lot but like we've seen with sanchez and we've seen with nelson ok it's annoying because you can't plan long term but they resolve to see a flip side now i'm not saying it's all
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a good thing i can see both sides but also suddenly you get a player like nelson in you know ok he's going to be gone next season but for one season you've got players at smashing those you know their son. countries come for free essentially or they have to pay compensation little keamy from real madrid ok not probably going to be a long term left but all that good for seasonal it's money that they've given it's taken they're taken by it on the season and it goes on showing the school they got for a century nothing that will keep me like i said so yeah ok it's not long but there's also some short term funds to be had by taking some of the young play. it's a knowing they're going to leave eventually so you can have it although you can't you could choose i mean do you want to short term fun of having a pretty young if you want a long term misery of knowing that you can't really buy a show of anyone's name on it are boys i was just going to be gone i want to manage that what would you choose if you were the the ones. i mean often there's something to be said for having a bit short term fun i mean if if if hoffenheim could somehow win the league with with players like reese nelson and then they'll leave in
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a few seasons when they take it off and often fans will take that off the less to say fine if they're exact if they'd be happy you know if they'd rather know ever ever had we had more is it that their club or if they just want to say he was there for the charm he spent that. train anyway that's all the time we have boys thank you so much for joining us tom had to go through yes my son.
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