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d.w. news or visit our website d.w. dot com. despite being on opposite sides of the syria conflict turkey and russia have launched joint patrols in the area of northern syria that turkey wants cleared of kurdish fighters despite sporadic outbreaks of fighting the kurds have mostly gone and the cease fire agreement between russia and turkey is mostly held so what's next well turkey really sent millions of syrian refugees to live in this protected area i'm phil gale in berlin this is the day. every. single city and. casualty is one casualty too much i hope this will be the 1st step towards a political solution between when these threads. secure that we don't turn turkey
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into an enemy by the need for preventive diplomacy and peaceful resolution of conflict. because the issues have been resolved rather effectively on the growth. thanks to russia. force are coming up soon russia's sovereign enter that law comes into force the kremlin says it's designed to better protect the country's internet against foreign cyber attacks activists say it could give rise to a great fire wall of russia. by give them all of these laws will give the government more control over the internet in russia they were adopted under the pretext of defending the country against cyber threats. to our viewers on not p.b.s. in the united states round the world welcome the drones in the air troops and armored vehicles on the ground turkey and russia have launched. joint patrols in
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northeastern syria military vehicles patrol the 10 kilometer deep zone along the border between turkey and syria as part of a deal struck between the 2 countries to force kurdish fighters out of the area. a major power shift in syria a month after president donald trump withdrew u.s. forces from the region. until he's president wants to establish a buffer zone along his country's southern border with syria he plans to resettle up to 2000000 syrian refugees who currently live in his country many observers regard this as a human catastrophe in the making we have this report from the turkish town of. which is home to many syrian refugees have already been caught in the crossfire and the fearful for their futures. shortly after turkey made its incursion into northern syria 3 weeks ago kurds from the y p g militia in the region hit back returning fire at turkey the op whole street store where her little and his brother
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work was hit both men are syrian refugees living in the border town of. how. we've lived here in peace but then they started firing rockets at us everyone ran for cover we wanted to carry away the wounded but then i was also hit by a shell. of you. says the kurdish militia wanted to take revenge on tikki and instead hit refugees he has a piece of shrapnel in his abdomen and another in his cheek he and his family fled to turkey from syria's civil war 5 years ago he's still worried about the power of the syrian regime. i took off from the syrian army my problem is president assad because i deserted if i return i will be publicly executed because i am a desert or. a hand that not only are i asked terrorists so are assad soldiers
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we don't want the assad regime there even stronger than i asked. and now the turkish president wants the refugees to go back to the syrian side in the buffer zone where assad's troops have moved in the brothers don't want to return but fear they have no choice this is what else can we do there's nothing we can do against them if they decide that we should go back last you know you may not know. today more than half of the inhabitants of ak jacqueline syrian refugees many like this month have lived in turkey for years he was injured in the fighting and is now taking combat leave faisal is a syrian fighter who was sent in by ticky to battle the kurdish y.p. gene his unit is supposed to massacred many of them feisal says he's really fighting for his homeland for him living together with kurds is unthinkable. before i joined the free syrian army the kurds entered our village and expelled us from our homes. our land and forced us to flee.
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no i cannot return to our village as long as the white paint gene is there. the kurds have reason to be concerned about 5 south free syrian army just as pfizer has reason to fear the kurds of the y.p. ji still others are worried about assad's troops it's a complicated situation involving multiple sites where no one is innocent and where there are no simple solutions. so what can we expect you to do next while you work in powell is head of the beirut office of the heinrich berg foundation an independent green political think tank welcome to day doubly so let's let's let's start with this this political situation with different powers acting together and against each other for different purposes so we'll start with the why why are russia who support the assad regime in turkey who want us out gone why are they working together like this. i suppose russia doesn't want to see another conflict
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involving an evolving in syria in the north east of syria and help to have the assad regime to extend. its forces and its grip on the region in the northeast and as we see the forces of the acid regime are already claiming territory and are already present again in the north east of the country and so these patrols will do what. they do this at least war the turks and the russians want to demonstrate that they're able to keep the fighters and the military personnel off the s. the f. and the the y p g the kurdish forces out of the area which is close to the turkish border and. while doing this the
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forces of the other regime have the opportunity to enter again the territory they have they haven't been before jungle fees is everything in this let's take a look at that the area of syria that he wants to clear keep clear of kurds will bring them if their plan works how will they then keep it clear this is does this mean that you will maintain a military presence in this region this is war what is to expect there was also other areas in syria like the area of rain where the where there is already it took presence military presence and presence of the turkish services so this seems to be the plan. of this operation and we're going to bring up another mountain i was going to look at take a look at the the wider region because america's recent actions of left a lot of people stunned so if you if you look at where we have syria you know half
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years into a civil war with russia now the de facto power in the region lebanon in political crisis where the prime minister having resigned israel of course constantly a war with an under threat from its arab neighbors iraq also suffering a popular political unrest and iran as well at a time like this it seems odd that the united states would choose to effectively allow russia a free hand in this region indeed it seems and. the american decision of this withdrawal seems to be motivated by internal domestic policy. policies of the trump administration and i do think also that. the military establishment it did not believe actually it would have so i think this this withdrawal was driven by
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domestic policy considerations. if president. russia and turkey now patrolling this this this this is the next phase as far as it tells us is that they will move. $2000000.00 syrian refugees out of turkey into this region if that happens how will that affect this area that would be a terrible demographic change we could even say an ethnic cleansing moving people forcing. the turks say they would be voluntary return and i doubt that there would be a voluntary we turn of syrian refugees who originate from totally different parts of the country. being settled in the north east of where they are not where they do not come from and how does that help how does that help and how does
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that help. turkey has a substantial refugee population about 4000000 syrian refugees like other neighboring countries lebanon for example in the 1500000 refugees so. is under pressure domestically. the it to send. syrian refugees back to their country and there's seems to be way the turks trying to do this. and i doubt it is it will be implemented the way. they say it would but if syrian refugees would be forced to set the in area like a predominantly kurdish area and refugees who come from other parts of syria that would be
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a disaster for for the syrians and would violates the rights of those refugees who seek refuge in in turkey but we see but we see at least 2 purposes for president one it gets it gets a couple of 1000000 refugees out of out of turkey and elsewhere that's what he say he may be doing he has and it displaces it it sort of makes more permanent the displacement of the kurds from from that area the kurds who have a course of such problems in the past secondly ok and all this as the international community looks passively on as the curia the kurds are forced out of the area under president assad appears to just be sitting by allowing his country to be did the fate of his country to be divided decided on by external players. but for us it seems this works for him it is this other russians who played
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a major role in the russian and. the assad regime to come back to this part of the country out of the country which they had only very limited presence so. for me it seems that. this is what motivated us i don't see in the interview that was quoted in the international media over to make this remarks. supporting the russian ukrainian it sounds like a win for everyone except the kurds you know. the syrian population of the civilians in that area. of the 100 both foundation thank you so much thank you very much. issue of. these laws are about making sure that the internet in russia remains stable and the events of outside attempts to influence it when you see if you get out through. online state services
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in internet banking will be fully available in various online commercial services which citizens use will work reliably and without fail. so russia has introduced a new law giving the government the power to switch off the internet the kremlin says it's protecting itself from cyber attacks and critics see it as a step towards more censorship media rights organization reporters without borders says the rule violates fundamental freedoms. kruger from the internet news site and that's politics can take us through what the sabines welcome to date of leave is that with the the irony of ironies in this that give me evidence that it's russia and its troll farms that of attempted to interfere with so many foreign elections or so many cultures political agendas it's ironic that they say that this is about defending mother russia from foreign cyber attacks. i had to laugh at as well because i immediately thought about russian that
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hackers getting unemployed immediately but of course the interference into internal affairs by external forces is mediated by social media platforms so. it's not russia directly was in charge but google and facebook that doesn't all map data and research and can russia actually do this can i mean so the law has passed a law in the government the power to do this but can russia technically achieve this isolation of its own internet i mean the law or includes the set of a national address registry and that national d s n. national internet exchange points and the control of any data and with the vice it's the internet service providers all this has to be set up has to be developed i think 2 years is really short and makes all the developments really
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prone to security issues. but in general of course it would be possible to stay to control and to censor and stop information communication we know that from fire wars and deepika inspection of course ok so at the moment it could do some of what it's looking into do but you think it's minimum of 2 years before russia could turn around and and switch itself off yeah i think in the moment it's plants that say's a lot about the leadership but that obviously lost control over things and has a deep feeling to get back control and it's a deep feeling to use all old legend to nations all external enemies to yet to bring up some developments that are used to or not in the security offices but i think. the damage can be really disastrous and of
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course all the resources the tech people are missing in other developments. so we have a situation here where what you hear this news in the 1st thing you think of as world that's what china has already done what what it what the parallels how far ahead is china of russia in this well i'm not the expert for china but i think china has managed to control infrastructures devices like mobile phones and web services in china so the controls really high and we should all think about what does it mean when we introduce 5 to you based upon chinese infrastructures in germany but i think russia is heading into the same direct. so who controls the infrastructures has control over people. but i think it's a bit generally with the people and not with states and we're just talking about the people because of the thousands of people have demonstrated against this move
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but not tens or hundreds of thousands so i wonder how much the russians care that this is happening or perhaps they believe that president putin is actually just doing his job and protecting mother russia well i've been to moscow last week and i was really shocked by the i think state of the trees so they look like water there are hundreds of problems people miss people who suffer from and i don't know if it interests you most immediate ones so that and this is this is not of the people of the opera ours are used to be oppressed and. they were to leave so there are political protests. so that if this is not about protecting russia from cyber attacks what is it about well i have been working the almost hard and also in the internal affairs committee and i know that most of the of the proposals pollutants come up with come from with
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a high level of emotions like a muslim control influence of the. of the industry who just wants to sell products or wants to we sell products again and of course usually with a legit mation off. old used friend enemy perception so i think and it's very easy to say where we are we want to control people and who want to control internet. infrastructures the problem is that we currently suffer from incidents like c heck of the saudi arabian industry but the all industry. and it was neither in there iran nor america but it was pacts in the computer systems. right so i think it would make sense to seriously go into defense of i t. infrastructure. systems and not into anything else.
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from the internet news site and that's policy thank you so. this month marks the 30th anniversary of the fall of the wall celebrations of that historic event taking place across germany one of the most eye catching is that the year landmark brandenburg gate here in the capital 30000 people have left messages saying what the fall of the war means to them what they believe is still worth fighting for today. and it's a dance take fishing that full of handwritten massachusetts contending memories and hopes and demands this art installation visions in motion at garland sprung book gates commemorates the fall of the berlin wall the basic idea there's a physicality of it which is to create a surface that is the lightest possible that floats on the wind that creates this this feeling of. something happening that's bigger than yourself you know we're all
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aware of the wind on our on our skin and you feel it in your hairs in your skin and you know it's happening but become if you become used to it it's like that's just what's there but when you can see it and sense it and hear and feel it coming. and all of a sudden you're aware of a bigger presence around sharon was eager to involve as many people as possible in the workforce installation the organizers collected masochists on line on the streets and workshops with students. this piece of art here is made out of 30000 masses just from people from all over the world explaining what the fall of the virgin wall 30 years ago means to them and what they think should be different today. visions in motion seeks to honor the protest in eastern. many in 989 through the massachusetts demonstrators put on their posters demanding freedom and the demolition of the barrier that for so long divided the city that call is one
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the organizers of this art installation feel has to be expressed loudly again but instead it's often are not we're doing this because we're living in a time when walls are going up again in other parts of the world and because we want to and must confront what we're ready to stand up for today that's more and according to many of the mass it is people want to fired from our mutual understanding around the world individual thoughts that like here turn into a wife that will bring some color to a typical november. japan hosts the final of the men's rugby world cup on saturday when south africa and england battle it out for the trophy japan is also home to an amateur rugby league for players who can't quite bring themselves to hung up that boots it's open to anyone over the age of 40 though some of the players are much older than us.
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i. protein for the bones can't hurt the old timers from the talky watch you presidents rugby team point out that they're no longer in their twenties the veterans team trained 2 or 3 times a week tackle and maul. anyone over the age of 40 can join there are 150 senior teams across japan. going to a cheeky 3 hours north of tokyo a couple of temples rice paddies on to engine factory. not much else is going on but right now the turf has to be tied up. tropical storm had best flooded the entire playing field and parts of the clubhouse. i have lots of injuries on my knee . the moment i broke
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a rib. and. on the 3 teeth got knocked out and the skin on my job was ripped open. the oldest player here today is cutting toshiko bari he's 81 which is why he wears purple. players pants for the older age yellow for the 70 somethings and red for those in their sixty's with a screw up though i do 20 need bends. 20 pushups. 30 minutes of high bar exercises i do this 40 times a day oh. that's good enough for me when i run every day. is also important. 3 eggs a day meat cheese tofu not all or fermented beans kind of my stuff. things are getting started. on of.
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course. with the world but sometimes aches and pains force the seniors to leave the playing field whatever. otherwise no mercy. you're only as old as you feel is the prevailing belief here. oh. my god. i'm not in the end the other team wins by how many points exactly no one knows it doesn't matter they all celebrate together at the nomi chi a japanese drinking party the 100 witnesses there are few women here many of the men are single another reason why they play rugby to combat loneliness . was. what it was.
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their their. go. now they are looking forward to the rugby world championship final here in japan their national team has been shut out but for the tokyo walker presidents the show must go on they will play rugby until their bodies give up. the day is almost done but the conversation continues online you'll find us on twitter at steve wus or you can find me at don't forget to use. the day. so that i have a good day. to
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the point of strong opinions clear positions international perspectives. there's a growing sense of war torn syria censoring a new phrase with for us apparently ambivalent about its role in the region russia and turkey have stepped into the vacuum so what now lies ahead for syria to find
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out also the point. next time on do you believe. 30 years after the fall of the berlin wall november night t.w. . earth home to millions of species a home worth saving. on those are big changes and most start with small
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steps global ideas tell stories of creative people and innovative projects around the world like to use how to cook climate juice to green energy solutions and reforestation. they create interactive content teaching the next generation about environmental protection and we're determined to build something here for the next generation called 12 years the multimedia environment series on t w. there's a growing sense that warts on syria and centering a new phase that could mean new opportunities but also new dangers well the situation on the ground changed dramatically when u.s. president donald trump made the unexpected decision to in large measure at least withdraw american forces from syria in doing so the americans abandon their erstwhile allies the kurds russia and turkey have stepped into the vacuum or
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vladimir putin and red chip tie a better one appearing to be the key players in the region it's certainly over.


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