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and the weekly radio show is called spectrum if you would like any information on the crown of or any other science topic you should really check out our podcast you can get your podcast. and. this is the wus a show coming up today north korea raises the stakes diplomacy. the country i'm veils of previously unseen that could potentially carry multiple warheads in the u.s. city how concerned should we be. tranches an activist in her eighty's campaigning for muslim rights in india. time magazine called one of the world's 100 most influential people.
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welcome to do you. glad you could join us our grand military parade over the weekend in north korea has left analysts concerned about the nuclear threat posed by the how. the calls of the. new missile a mock up of fish was put into during the 75th anniversary celebrations of the workers' party of north korea if fully operational the missile could be capable of carrying multiple nuclear warheads and targeting american cities now north korea already has missiles capable of striking u.s. cities but it is the multiple warheads that any misfiled carries that makes defending against it much harder and more expensive has more on what many believe gives north korea a very potent bargaining chip in future negotiations with the united states.
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it was a kind of military has become used to seeing in north korea. with a vast array of military hardware on show. and the usual statement of defiance from the country's dictator kim jong un we need to physically here we will continue to strengthen self-defense of war to terence to deter control and manage all dangerous attempts and threatening acts including ever growing nuclear threats from hostile forces the way that it is in the. eye but it was a sight of this weapon that cause many international north korea watches to sit up and take notice. it appears to be a new in seconds and ends with a list of missile the largest and potentially most powerful of its kind ever displayed by pyongyang and one that could pose a new threat the u.s.
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and the international community. saw like it or not as a nuclear power and is probably as it certainly. are we just kept out of sprite on american cities sought after russia and china. south korea responded by urging pyongyang to commit to previous agreements on disarmament. japan also expressed concern saying it would continue to boost its military defenses and. i will refrain from mentioning various individual missiles but in general terms when we are aware that some new missile is make it difficult for conventional equipment to deal with the requirement. that for all the bravado on show in north korea analysts noted that kim jong un also appeared to be holding back. he's not yet tested a new weapon leading some to say it may not even. and that it could be
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a tactic to increase his leverage in any future talks with the united states. for more on this i'm joined now by dr sujan lim an analyst or not could unify from the university of central lancashire in the u.k. dr lim welcome how much of a concern would you say is this new missile. as i see our having the missile itself isn't that much new thing for us is that kind of tactics been there for a long time and especially are we are waiting for the november presidency election in the states and north korea especially is aiming to see who will be the present and giving the message to the states and it's not only about the a missile at the parade is more about the kim jong state than speech on the day he
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made it clear that north korea will use it is missiles for south self defense they were in that have * an intention to provoke rocketed a mess they don't have any estimate challenges so that means whoever it will be the president of the union in other states after november north korea will be ready either be provocative or corporative so they are getting the message to the united states in that says it would be really about how you present a real show a kind of gesture to north korea at the beginning what is driving a north korea's nuclear missile program i mean isn't the argument that look if we don't develop weapons that can hit us hard we won't be hard. for for the north korea the
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a nuclear program or this kind of mrs can be have been the bargaining power and also survive all right a bible tactics for north korea they think they have seen their what happened in their iraq before in the area or gaddafi. what happened after they gave up their our nuclear program in the past so for me it's really not likely that north korea will develop nuclear weapon entirely alas they have any kind of. the tactics that they can develop of order to maintain their resume for now in clear program is one of the strongest. pogany power for north korea that's why i thought there was a tap in the ensign near future where do you see the united states progressing in the future dr lim
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the movie really will be the president to point as i see both biden and trump are pretty much interested in at talking with north korea essentially if i didn't also mentions that it isn't a story he has intention to mitigate in general for trump of course it will be our not our layer of this theater tactic for donald trump as a reality t.v. show program so. whoever it will do before north korea us and we're continue to have a negotiation and discussion about over the nuclear program within a career or not really have been facing tough u.n. sanctions over it's a missile program what does it say about these sanctions if not korea is able to create such a missile despite these sanctions. the situation is like in the past when kim jong il or. the concerns of other things
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only was that they used a nuclear power for food aid so whenever data showed a missile test or shore their nuclear program development then this accord to rest on allies probe idea to forge a rather than importing a stronger power sanctions but at the moment it can john and in north korea is facing a stronger sanctions and kim jong un tries to see the way how to get away from and for example china and russia we know that still provide such a level of support to north korea actually believe it that thank you so much for speaking to us thank you. for 3 months early this year
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a small neighborhood in delhi was the most visible protest against a new citizenship law project by the indian government the protesters in shock opposed to a law they said discriminated against muslims when it came to granting illegal migrants in india citizenship but amongst those protesters an octogenarian grandmother stood out because bono named recently as one of time magazine's 100 most influential people for 2020 was a constant presence at the protests we met the 82 year old in delhi. everyone knows bill has been all here and shot by a muslim quarter in delhi they call her respectfully bill kiss daddy granma bill kiss at the age of 82 she has become the face of muslim protest here against the nationalist hindu government of india shining back translates roughly as royal garden but this part of town is hardly regal bill gates says muslims are
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discriminated against and she wants to change that. little man up the government doesn't care about muslims it's they are only for hindus they keep saying we should go to pakistan but we were born here just as our forefathers were what should we do in pakistan. we live here and we'll die here. the women of shaheen bag and their nationwide reputation last winter that's when they blocked one of delhi's main roads for more than 100 days in protest against the newly passed citizenship amendment act which has caused some international concern because critics claim it discriminates against muslims. when coronavirus 1st hit the government was able to clear the streets of people but bilk is kept up the fight even though many of the other protest leaders have been arrested hindu hardliners called her a terrorist and a pakistani agent but she's become one of time magazine's 100 most influential
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people of 2020. men tell us we should stay at home and cook don't get me wrong i like to cook and i'm proud that i have borne children but we women also have to serve as role models for our children if we don't teach them then they won't amount to anything i do this with pride and with store says i'm. prime minister narendra modi has also made it on to time magazine's list. bill chris says he deserved to but that at 70 morty is comparatively young and still has a lot to learn she says he'll have to do that if he wants to run the country better i'll tell you that there are i consider him a son. but he should listen to me as a mother if he ever invites me to meet him i would gladly go. but i would be coming with my demands among. hill kisses phone fame and she doesn't mind it
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but she knows that she hasn't achieved her goals the 82 year old says she hasn't given up and then hops on her real son scooter to head to the next protest. and that's if a very be sure to check out other stories on dude up to dot com. on facebook and twitter believe you now with these pictures of festivity in the north korea marking the 75th anniversary of the country's. remarked more of the same time of our.
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combating the corona pandemic. where does research stand. what are scientists learning. background information and. our corona update. 19 special next on d w. this. story stubborn rice farmer from thailand. his problem. is crypto no chemicals.
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and his plan was. the students or my parents don't stand a chance. of training successful. duck academy starts oct 15th. 1000000 deaths a grim milestone for a pandemic that's not even a year old in 10 months more people have died from coven 1000 than from hiv malaria the flu and cholera combined hefty body counts for a microscopic pathogen and some experts think it's an undercount. the pandemic isn't done yet cases are spiking in india and europe complacency and frustration are growing. before had
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a fear of the corona virus in march and april but they don't anymore some are also leaving their homes because they have to go to work. they don't have any money and they don't have any other options. as the numbers continue to rise how long before the next milestone. this is did of these covert 900 special a low and welcome to the show i'm stephen beardsley in berlin 1000000 deaths in 10 months what began as a mysterious respiratory disease and china has now spread around the world leaving a significant body count its wake and showing little sign of abating in the near future is a look at how we reached this point. the 1st death outside of china was reported in the philippines on february 2nd just 12 days later france confirmed the 1st victim in europe. at the end of february the united states reported its 1st. on
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june 28th the global death toll hit half a 1000000 and just 3 months later the millionth victim was confirmed. the us has the highest death toll so far it also has the highest number of cases followed by india and brazil. spain has the most confirmed infections in the european union with cases surging across the world experts expect the global death toll to climb in the coming months. now one of the country's worst hit by the pandemic wasn't on that last list pru which is topped 800000 infections has had one of the world's highest mortality rates and its economy has shrunk by a whopping 30 percent but new cases are slowing and that's prompted the government to begin easing restrictions many fear that they're acting too soon.
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finally able to be by her husband's side this doesn't cemetery in northern peru is the final resting place for local coronavirus victims now that restrictions have been eased relatives are allowed in to visit. even though it isn't at the spot ana maria and her husband had planned for your method to get up and bite us in the foot when i went to town to make burial arrangements they told me i couldn't bury him in the plot we had chosen. i was told that an order had been issued that everyone who died from coated had to be buried in this summit area. others are still fighting for their lives peru's president says the country's health care system is stronger now than it was at the beginning of the pandemic. and the government is expanding testing including in low income areas of the capital lima. so with the rate of new infections on the decline the government is pushing ahead with plans to reopen more
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of the economy. and even start logging in international flights starting with neighboring countries but some health experts are warning against reopening to tast . and eating the nasty reopening gyms bars discos and other forms of entertainment will be terrible say yet they leave so yes it could bring about a 2nd wave quicker the window and. i think we definitely need to reconsider these steps have nothing. to fear is that peru could repeat the pattern of other countries seeing a rise in cases followed by a new wave of mass burials. i'm joined now by alan lopez is an epidemiologist and professor at the university of melbourne which is where he joins me from professor it's good to have you on the show you've said that this death count could actually be a vast undercounts by how much. is probably
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likely to be somewhere between 30 and 60 percent of an undercount huge number of factors why is that what are those factors. oh is full principal focus stephen that i think you're driving the numbers down one is that doctors are still learning how to apply the w.h.o. rules to certify the deaths in this and they're getting used to that until they get used to it properly don't be undercounting to it secondly good 19th. it kills people in ways that we're still learning about in other words if they magnifies out the background risks if you've got hypertension if you're a smoker if you're overweight if you've got chronic lung disease then it's likely that code 19 is going to be more serious for you and will kill many of the people with those conditions those co-morbidities certainly covered 19 is having a big impact on health services so in developing countries we're seeing programs
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essential programs like h. o. the control to be malaria are all being affected and so many of the people who need the services and not getting them and are probably dying as a result and even in rich countries we see people not turning up with cancer screening when they should be and finally and perhaps most importantly many many deaths in the world go on counter develop one 3rd of deaths go on registered each year and even many of those that are registered don't get a proper correct cause of death so it's likely that covered 19 sophos more was conditions as well you mentioned the co-morbidities can we say if there's a profile to the average coronavirus death from what we know about the death count so far although the main thing that drives that to find 19 deaths is a the vast majority of people who die from cotinine tame. the age of 70 and sex ratio in countries where we can count it reliably suggests that for every
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female who dies there's about 3 miles so we got a fairly clear idea of the age and 6 composition of mortality are we slowing down the death rate since we've been going at this for about 10 months now have we learned enough to slow it down. the answer is no we have not slowed it down i don't know whether we've learnt enough to do that but we certainly haven't applied it death rates are rising we're seeing 2nd wage and several countries in europe we've seen those in my country and australia deaths are rising they're rising steadily and they're going to rise a lot further. when should we expect the next milestone say 2w3w do you have a prediction. so difficult to predict but my prediction is that by the end of this year by december 31st with probably see at least 2000000 possibly as high as 2 and a half 1000019 deaths worldwide and professor are deaths the best way to understand the impact of this disease in the pandemic. i don't think so i think the actual
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numbers of this is frightening as they are and as troubling as they're going to be don't tell the full story covered 19 kills people primarily at older ages and in terms of preventative priorities that public health need to be concerned about we talk about the number of years of life lost on every trip. in terms of code 19 most of those who died go out on the ranges and so they tend to lose much less years of life than for example a comparable number of deaths road traffic accidents for example kills 1200000 people every year vast majority of those are a lot younger than the code it gets and so you could argue that road traffic accidents or to be getting at least as much public health attention for prevention as cotinine tame all right lopez professor and epidemiologist from the university of melbourne thank you very much thank you. well our science
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correspondent eric williams has been busy looking into your questions about the pandemic over now to derek. many of the social controls put in place are passed on asymptomatic transmission what evidence is there for such a phenomenon. do people who are asymptomatic transmit source code to to others and if so then how infectious are they this has been one of those issues that's proven there a difficult to come to grips with in the course of this pandemic for for a couple of reasons 1st of all because we only really recently began to detect asymptomatic people on a wide scale 2nd because today's asymptomatic patient can turn out to be only present and not and start showing symptoms tomorrow and we're pretty sure that pretty symptomatic carriers can be highly infectious 3rd because the viral load and
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asymptomatic patient carries is usually very similar to that of someone showing symptoms so so what evidence is there that people who test positive for covert 19 but don't ever develop symptoms how likely is it that they can infect others. a pre-print paper set for publication soon shows how tricky it can be to prove but but the researchers think they did it on a flight from italy to south korea carrying nearly 300 passengers who at the time displayed no 19 symptoms before boarding all of them were given and 95 masks and most wore then throughout the flight except at meal times and when they went to the bathroom when the passengers arrived in seoul they were quarantined straight away for 2 weeks and all of them were tested on the 1st day and the last day of that quarantine 6 people tested positive for covert 19 that 1st day of quarantine but
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they never developed symptoms they were confirmed asymptomatic carriers but one woman who tested negative on the 1st day of quarantine developed symptoms on day 8 of it she had set a few rows away from an asymptomatic patient and used the same bathroom as them because of the timing and what we know about the viruses in cube ation period the researchers concluded that she was very likely infected by one of the asymptomatic passengers on board the plane. sounds kind of like a sherlock holmes mystery doesn't it it just goes to show you though how difficult it is to acquire and interpret this kind of evidence many studies have tried but so far none of them has been clear cut enough really for big health authorities like the w.h.o. or the c.d.c. a to take a stand on the issue. our science expert
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eric williams there and that is it for this edition of covert 1000 special you can find more coverage of the pandemic on our website dot com to check us out on facebook and twitter as well i'm seeing bears in berlin as always thanks for watching.
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