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. china deserves our gratitude and respect the world health organization should be ashamed of themselves. as they like the public relations agency fitch oh . please china again and again praising china for its so-called transparency i don't think. the w.h.o. under dr tetrodes has made a major contribution in advancing the global response to cope 19 would see its good work is applauded by the international community china's cover up of the will han virus allow the disease to spread all over the world china and the unite. that
state's stand to gain from cooperation and lose from confrontation regretfully in addition to the raging corona virus a political virus is also spreading in the united states she just political virus is using every opportunity to attack and smear china. on january 25th 2020 china announced that a new epidemic had begun to spread in the city of ruhani in the center of the country. the chinese authorities decided to impose a lockdown on tens of millions of people the 1st of many that over the next few
weeks would spread across the world get on that same day in geneva the director general of the world health organization was urging for calm rather than caution. make no mistake. this is though an emergency in china. but. it has not yet become a global health emergency. over the next few weeks the daily reports coming out of china went from unsettling to allow me. the 1st cases seem to have emerged in woo 100 the end of 2019 near away to market where live animals are sold and slows it in squalid conditions. it's here that a novel coronavirus is believed to have been transmitted from animals to humans and have claimed its 1st casualties. doctors treating this 1st
cases in 100 central hospital try to alert the authorities but were arrested by the police and accused of spreading rumors. it was during chinese new year the country's biggest holiday and for the government in beijing this was not the time for bad tidings. reflects the 1st reflex of an offer or a tarion regime is to stifle and deny facts and to avoid risking panic they were eager to avoid interrupting festivities during new year the big national holiday with hundreds of millions of people travelling around the country. in china it's also a political ritual it's really pretty cheek. a few days later on january 27th the streets of beijing which is really empty.
the director general of the world health organization was afforded an official reception by the chinese president with the 2 men insisting the situation was under control. i personally directed the provision of containment measures to keep the epidemic in check. she said. ching our political decisions will ensure a victory against the epidemic traits of the. huge. this is very very important and really really proud that. the other party chairman. is the political will be your personality to which we have been for. 48 hours later the w.h.o. delegation were back at their headquarters in geneva some 15 governments have now confirmed that the virus had spread to their countries in asia and europe concern
was growing as was criticism of the w h o's chief who had still to publicly acknowledge the health crisis of global proportions the speed was with china detected the outbreak isolated the vitus sequence of their genome and shared it was doubly join the world without a very impressive and beyond words so is china's commitment to transparency and to supporting other countries in many ways china is actually setting a new standard for outbreak response and it's not an exaggeration and the average joe doesn't become and and i actually opelousas any restrictions for travel and trade or other measures against. you declare. clearly the w.h.o. was to has a tent and made mistakes from the outset. china informed the
w.h.o. too late and the w.h.o. waited too long before acknowledging human transfer of the virus. that was evidently detrimental. in that week or 10 days the time lost was considerable it did their job. good don't go see the. new disaffected the chinese and nischelle he held back information for 2 or 3 weeks but eventually it was no longer tenable. the w.h.o. director general at the time dr ted rose to clear that it was not an international health emergency declared us show. and tell us that. people were asking why he didn't say otherwise. in order to understand this you have to look at the structure of the w h o s w h
o has an executive council of around 30 countries and suffers from the same problem as the un unanimity you didn't get a minute to do that and. if. china has a powerful voice on that board. the executive will now ask yourself whether the chinese ambassador while representing his country would be willing to agree to that opinion and say yes it all started here and we're going to unleash an epidemic on the world. absolutely not i post in the. january 31st donald trump closed u.s. buddhist to chinese people and everyone else entering from that country. the president announced the unilateral move in spite of the advice and with no known cases in the us. the decision marked the start of an ongoing escalation of the
attacks by trump against beijing and the w h. we're not happy about china i will tell you that. it was dry and a great great deal and all of a sudden the plate comes in for john what i'd happy about they could have stopped it they are a very brilliant nation scientifically in other words. it got loose let's say and they could have kept it they could have stopped it don't close your borders to china don't do this they don't report we're joined go alone they didn't see it and yet they were there they didn't see what was going on in. they didn't see it how do you not see it. in may 2020 trump announced he would be pulling his country out of the w a h. he claimed the organization was responsible for the spread of the pandemic and called it a puppet of china. and cuba. the world is now suffering as
a result of the malfeasance of the chinese government china's cover up of the will han virus allow the disease to spread all over the world instigating a global pandemic that has cost more than 100000 american lives and over a 1000000 lives worldwide. chinese officials ignored their reporting obligations to the world health organization and pressured the world health organization to mislead the world when the virus was 1st discovered by chinese or 30. 0 dummy from the united states is condemning china and the w.h.o. continuously without reason. they want to shift the focus of the american public as a distraction from the inefficiency in their epidemic response which is quite
immoral and most disappointing sure. 180 kilometers from mainland china the island of taiwan is one of the most modern and highly developed countries in asia. beijing has claimed the territory since 949 bus its independence is supported and defended by washington. since the recognition of mainland china by the un taiwan has been isolated and practically excluded from the international community. under pressure from china the w.h.o. refuses to communicate with the government in taipei which seems to be the case even if the epidemic were to directly threaten the taiwanese. washer toward taiwan as part of china there is only one china not to me or you go to war you go
to taiwan are certain that every international organizations including the w.h.o. and the united nations and the vast majority of governments you will all admit that the people's republic of china is the only legal representative their only partner should work which means they all agree with the one china policy just. taiwan has to agree with this principle if it is to become an observer of the w.h.o. without any problems for me or conflict. paradoxically that exclusion may well have saved taiwan from a worse fate the island nation was obliged to develop its own warning and response systems in december 29th teen with the w h a receiving no information from beijing the time when his government immediately took steps to protect its population.
despite its proximity to mainland china taiwan among the 1st countries affected has seen minimal deaths since the start of the epidemic. an impressive record for a nation that the world health organization effectively refuses to deal with. in april a journalist from hong kong interviewed is senior w.h.o. advisor about the situation in taiwan would that be extolled consider how once membership. the epidemiologist insisted that there was a problem with the connection. a lot but it was it was a. mere question ok i mean that let me let me repeat the question of. that right because yes i'm i'm actually curious on talking about. how once case. when
the journalist called again he refused to even us have the name taiwan and i just want to see if you can comment a bit on how one has done so far in terms of containing the virus. well we've already talked about china and you know when you look across the different areas. it is actually quite a good job so that liked it very much. an embarrassment for the w.h.o. the very country that arguably defended itself best from the virus is one that is not recognized by the united nations while the w.h.o. itself has become a pawn in the geopolitical confrontation between china and the united states. for this reason the founders of the w.h.o. wanted to keep the organization independent of international conflicts on july 24th
948 in the aftermath of the 2nd world war and the creation of the un 55 nations came together to create the world health organization in geneva. the suffering of millions of human beings to score the country will be early and many many thousands of lives will be saved. the choice of switzerland was no coincidence a neutral country where international politics should be put aside. that is what the founders wished for in 1948 when they chose geneva as the headquarters of the w.h.o. to some extent to keep it at a distance from the political decision making at the un headquarters in new york. the un's predecessor the league of nations had also try to promote international cooperation on the health front especially after the spanish flu pandemic between
918920 the us wanted to go a step further. created an immediate post world war 2 period it began with very great idealism and aspiration and there. were some from whatever country who believe truly international order united nations and various agencies that would make the world safe for peace so that we would never see our devastation what brought war to again that was the aspiration but the cold war between the united states and the sub it union was already jeopardizing international cooperation in 949 stalin withdrew the us s. r. and the east european communist bloc from the w h i should we be demand an exception did exist because you said that it was which i think be under she leaves it up to you but you want to acknowledge the big issue of . the conflict of the 2 world powers was also
a battle of completely different ideologies a capitalist designed business a state run health care system stunning success and nikita khrushchev was eager to seek peaceful coexistence with america and in 1955 he also decided that the soviet union should rejoin the w. h. that created a moment and always has in world history which will. go to step out of that stage and it sees that opportunity with one of its greatest accomplishments or not its greatest the conference which was the campaign to eradicate smallpox world war 2. well the relations between the 2 superpowers remain tense in berlin and cuba inside the w.h.o. they were tanned in hand my 1st international activity was working with the smallpox eradication for 2 years during their program i worked in india side by side with people from u.s.s.r. from many different countries around the world and we all work together technically
to accomplish a common goal well the politics continued to inflame international i've years and international views the technical people worked perfectly together and eradicated to disease it was causing. point $7000000000.00 in 1967. at the end of the $970.00 s. the world health organization announced the eradication of smallpox as i am concerned i believe surely that it is the last case instead of. the w.h.o. had defeated one of the deadliest diseases known to humankind while also expanding the availability and use of antibiotics membership of the organization then increased from $55.00 to $150.00 nations and at the behest of these new joint developing world countries the w.h.o. decided to set its goals even higher. in 1978 the w.h.o.
hosted a conference in the soviet republic of tasks done in outer and declared that it was no longer just an agency for cooperation it had become a universal guarantor of health for everyone everywhere. there was a great international conference in which the declaration of all my heart of declared that the social determinants of health must be addressed health policy must be formulated into sectoral way all the sectors of the country and economy have to be brought to bear on it and the goal should be universal equity health for all by the year 2000 was the glorious naive dream of the declaration. but what should have been a promising future soon turned into a fiasco. marked the beginning of a new division in the w.h.o. with member states again pursuing their own specific interests that was extremely
threatening obviously to the powerful nations because the powerful nations don't really want an equal or a fair international economic order it goes against their interests and so that project. was abandoned very very fast many countries in the global united kingdom especially when margaret thatcher became prime minister of the united states especially when ronald reagan became president became very conservative didn't like the fact that these countries former colonies from the global south were now becoming numerically dominant in the world health the somewhat. but faced with ever increasing challenges the organization suffered from its limited size in 2020 its budget was close to 5000000000 euros an impressive sounding some bus in fact no more than the annual budget of
a single major hospital in the developed world. clearly the budget of the world health organisation is very small compared to budgets even in cities in big cities his 1st public health codes so w.h.o. doesn't have a budget which permits it to do what it could be doing and so every time there's an emergency it has to go out and raise more phones in order to respond to that emergency. ronald reagan the us president during the 1980 s. was the 1st to understand that this modest budget gave him political leverage over the organization. unhappy to see the balance tipping towards developing countries he decided to reduce the united states financial contributions. the united states and other countries of global worth while losing control of the policies and agenda of the w.h.o. and so they began to act in very punitive ways towards the w.h.o.
an effort led by the united states in 1980. froze the budget and the reagan restoration actually cut its act its contribution to 20 percent of its assessed do so those were frozen 1st which in a world of inflation oh broth of additional expenses meant essentially an effect of decreasing the budget. in an attempt to boost its financial resources the w.h.o. began to diversify its sources of income the obligatory contributions from member states represent only 20 percent of its budget the rest comes from voluntary contributions donations mainly from member states but also from private sector institutions and that has an impact on the functioning of the w h o. 30 years ago
and starting microsoft if there was we had a very ambitious vision computer for everyone. now i join you in seeking to achieve an even more important vision which is good health for every human being . busy and fuels the 2nd biggest donor to the w.h.o. is the bill and melinda gates foundation. mr gates could say i am happy to continue providing money but i would prefer it to go towards polio vaccination and the director general of the w.h.o. is given money under the condition that specific programs are funded. this just can't be. said. to satisfied stone is the w. h. only launched high profile publicity campaigns on issues such as sexual health or smoking
but adapting to the threat of sporadic epidemics proved extremely difficult. yes at the turn of the new millennium the world was beginning to change the emergence of china and added a new dimension to globalization the most populous country on the planet was evolving at a pace unprecedented in modern history from a largely agricultural country into a major industrial power. the kind of development that exacerbates the spread of viruses when live animal markets do business in the middle of megacities. as seen in late 2002 when an animal coronavirus made the jump to humans in the southern chinese city of fish and. it was the start of an atypical pneumonia epidemic that spread slowly and silently across the country the world only learned about the novel virus when the 1st victims were reported in hong kong.
sons as it came to. you know and was soon infecting people around the world while china continued to deny its existence. they said this is nothing it's serious it was an infection we know what it was we've stopped it it's not spreading any further and so w.h.o. went on for about a week isn't learn more about this disease spreading around the world and then the director general took a brave and courageous move to report globally that china was putting the rest of the world at risk by not reporting what was going on in china help them to fight u.t.c. grow harlem brundtland then director general of the w h o tells the organizations chief epidemiologist with making the news global that we needed to make a global alert so that other countries could be aware of this. dr brundtland was
a former head of state and in addition she was a pediatrician she understood clearly politics as well as technical issues related to health other director generals were less willing to take a political stand then she was she was a very strong director general who didn't wait for consensus from countries before acting she acted and then brought countries along with her in order that they would agree with what she did it was enormously effective in what the w.h.o. was able to provide leadership for over the reluctant consent of china china was offended was upset was insulted and this will come back to haunt the day of your show and the world to this day. 3 years later the sons coronavirus completely disappeared and the w.h.o.
had appointed a new director general ma. chen who had come to worldwide attention as director of health in hong kong during the sars outbreak took over as head of the organization . i would like to thank my country for nominating me to this post. and also i would like to thank the hong kong and macau special administrators regional governments alongside with the central government provided me with a lot of support during the 3 months of a campaign trail. margaret cho and was a statement of intent by beijing the w.h.o. was a prime objective in its international strategy. the new director general had a new and extremely powerful instrument at her disposal to reinforce her independence the newly composed international health regulations revised and
consolidated in 2005 by the member states of the w h o you've done a good which was assume. they authorized the w.h.o. to issue alerts about health emergencies that might occur. to the members also committed to reporting certain events to the w.h.o. . not doing so or responding too late could result in the w.h.o. holding them publicly accountable. for them but the w.h.o. is also part of the system of the united nations whose fundamental rule is non interference in other country's affairs on the one hand w.h.o. is told to monitor developments and if need be intervene in the politics of sovereign nations while on the other hand it is to in general refrain from such action which it does it. look what happened at the world trade organization at the w t o one a country is out of line it is immediately brought to order by the w
t o director general and other states. and if it still refuses to accept requirements it can leave the w t o but quitting the. move for a country so what people have accepted on the economic front capitalism and trade they are incapable of doing so for human health. and that is tragic. the w.h.o. in common with any institution serving the public interest has been weakened this is not this is not some kind of unfortunate mistake it is one ticket they do not want a strong w.h.o. they want a world health organization that will rep that will serve the fact that health is a trillion dollar market. the w.h.o. faced
a limited budget and weaker than and which were to have dramatic consequences in 2014. liberia sierra leone and guinea so multiple outbreaks of the virus. teams from doctors without borders on the ground reported that the wave of infections was out of control while the international community said nothing. in march the w.h.o. sounded the alarm. on the need to. keep going. on as i mean by a lot of doctors phoning or more the council of the territory. a few days later in geneva the w.h.o. declared that this does not constitute an international emergency like w.h.o. does not recommend any trouble trade restrictions. they don't rate public health science. on august 8th
20146 months after the start of the epidemic and with ebola having taken the lives of more than 2000 people the head of the w.h.o. finally responded. this morning i am declaring the current outbreak of ebola virus disease a public health emergency of international concern. by the time the epidemic. finally declared over 2016 it had caused 10000 deaths in a dozen west african countries. one small the w.h.o. prepared to change its director general. excellence is ladies and gentlemen philip a special adviser to the u.n. secretary general submitted his application what the great to the it is for me. to be before us only. to prison. for the post
of director general of the world health organization. oversaw to the full hand he had been to beijing seeking chinese support for his election need to have the chinese president reveal that he had chosen the african candidate ducted tadros. says. when china decides to back a candidate they obviously have a far better chance because the various countries getting aid from china will play ball. that is typical for the election unfortunately those. well that's just how it is when you have a democratic vote. tadros was elected the 1st african to ever become directive general of the w. h. . however he wasn't completely unknown. he had served
for over 15 years as either the health or foreign minister in his homeland of ethiopia thank you thank you for. thank you dr ted rose i would consider one of the very best ministers of health ever in africa and i am not alone in believing that many many other people believe that as well you spent a decade expanding the number of hospitals improving the management capacity of the hospitals improving the quality of care. creating a health workforce that was the sort of health extension worker so every single person could get access to care in a very very poor country. but that's only half of the story of the new w.h.o. general director. for 15 years he had been a member of an all 3 tarion if you're a peon regime responsible for the deaths of hundreds of the government's political
opponents. while minister of health he had also refused to acknowledge a number of epidemics in the country to avoid pushing off investments. secure current u.t.e. . he had been elected by a coalition of countries driven by china countries in the south and countries of africa the aim was an end to western domination of this important un organizations in. the region. paradoxically it is still the west that to a large part finances the w.h.o. but has absolutely no control over its political decision making so great is it a. european and american candidates in the upper echelons of international organizations now found themselves on the receiving end of chinese strategy. beijing began mobilizing its allies to elect its preferred candidates
they tended to come from friendly countries like dr tadros or were directly from the ranks of the beijing regime. to. gina. in 2019 she don't was elected to head the food and agriculture organization the un agency tasked with fighting hunger and food insecurity strategically a body at least as important as the w a h. 2016 men home away responsible for state security in beijing was elected to head interpol the international police cooperation department based in france. his appointment was controversial given the role of the police in china suppression of dissidents. in 2018 main hallway disappeared overnight deposed by beijing which accused him of corruption without informing him to pull. ahead.
today representatives of the chinese government also head the international civil aviation organization the united nations industrial development organization. and the international telecommunications union which played a big role in the development of 5 g. phone technology. the un's department of economic and social affairs is also headed by a chinese official plus the chinese are assuming an increasingly important role in the un human rights council which is also based in geneva. china now constitutes over a 5th of the world's population. and economically speaking in terms of manufacturing industry and trade with china ranks 1st or 2nd in the world there are more chinese citizens going into big international organizations and assuming. she this trend is inevitable no one can stop this. china is not going to accept insults
discrimination or unequal treatment against our country and people jobs it's not acceptable to slander and create rumors about china so we all. china has a strategy that consists of building its own intrinsic balances and it needs the world on the economic plane to maintain its internal balances for production stability for the enrichment of its middle class is that. once and for some years now it's been trying to be come part of the international order that we have established a lot on this fermented couldn't avoid the. north for us there's just one question ish will china change and adopt the universal values that have led to over 70 years of peace and stability economists told people it was or will china on the contrary do the changing you see illusions. china's
ability to position its candidates in international organizations was also a result of u.s. withdrawal on the international front. transamerica does not believe in multilateralism. anyone refusing to align themselves with the american position comes under criticism and pressure. they consider china a developing nation and because china is a developing nation they take massive advantage of the united states why didn't the president stop this i've been talking about a from the day i got it and we're looking at that very very strongly world trade w so i have probably the world health and world trade both of them i'm not sure which is worse you want to know the truth but we'll figure it out ok. today the united states still plays the prime role at the heart of the un. but it has moved away from a great many international organizations that are very important to. the un human
rights council unesco the vienna agreement on the iranian nuclear program. and also. the paris agreement. was a very good so here you have china acting inside the united nations not to create programs or new initiatives but to gain legitimacy and defend itself basically to avoid anything that goes against its own particular interests that's not new but other countries do the same thing. but given the size of china and the sometimes contrary nature of the interests they protect that makes it more serious. and they are faced with the united states whose number one reflex is if we don't like the way the instrument works we break it off i'm sure. the world health organization is indeed a poor continuing tensions between china and the united states it is also come
under attack from various sites during the biggest pandemic so far this century in addition to mass casualties large parts of the global population have had to endure restrictions and even curfews what could they have done better. one of several big questions that will take time to. distorted many did and also history shows that big pandemics always end in a search for the culprit always. the world needs a scapegoat. and we are in an era increasingly marked by the malevolent spirit of nationalism. when this when they listen you know. the obvious choice is to lay the blame on some all powerful international organization rather than look at our own failings. and i find that deeply unjust
for courses like performing not as used. unfortunately in the 21st century multilateralism is in danger. countries look 1st to their own priorities every country in particular the united states with its america 1st approach. and that kind of thinking is dangerous. and will. how can the w.h.o. fights once again against disease and epidemics effectively and liberate itself from the rivalry between china and the us. should cost part you should not restrict your poor points i don't think it would be productive to restructure the w.h.o. to respond to emergency help situations like that. because it would eventually lead to the same failings seen previously prefer to see. and we shouldn't undermine the w.h.o. as trump has done by reducing its budget or by creating rival structures which
would be bound to rival the w.h.o. without performing any better themselves or some euro in my opinion we have to get these respective states to respect the rules that they themselves committed to longer small due respect to the writer consume them she said. the novel coronavirus has led to a crisis that serves as a stark warning to us. new pandemics are not only possible but probable a grave concern and challenge for humanity. but it has also shown how fragile our health care systems are if we want to be better equipped for the future we will need to have a come this current of research and nationalism and the crisis facing the w.h.o. is not the cause but a symptom of an increasingly unsteady global. 1
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