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this is home massive church it's worse than the close like skyscrapers or clear. contrast of the cathedral church 12th on the w. . if. you're watching news asia coming up today whatever happened to the protests in thailand last summer activists took to the streets day in and day out and their fight continues now in the courts as the government targets pro-democracy leaders in an attempt to slow the movement. plus pakistan's courts the authorities and even the prime minister have attacked activist in the women's rights movement.
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i'm melissa chan thank you for joining us we want to take a closer look at thailand today the ongoing civil unrest in the country has not gone away and in fact many of the leaders of the pro-democracy demonstrations throughout 2020 are now in court facing years in prison and amnesty international's big annual report out today on the state of human rights around the world the entry for thailand talks about widespread repression and the use of enforced disappearances this includes the case of one she lay on sussex it who disappeared while living in exile last year he's yet another suspected victim of the thai authorities assault on dissent. save one chile on the demand this was june 2020 days after one chilly arms not socks it approved democracy blogger was abducted in cambodia. c.c.t.v.
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footage captured 2 men stopped in their tracks as they reportedly watch one chilly arm being bundled into an s.u.v. . he was targeted one day after uploading this video mocking thailand's prime minister. he has not been seen since his the 9th such case of a thai exile disappearing since 26 but that's all. if one charlie arm is dead we want his body brought back to thailand. in the past year thailand's military has reacted with an iron fist to a growing youth movement calling for democratic reforms rounding up dozens of activists under strict laws that forbid any criticism of the monarchy last month the architects of the uprising began filling up courts their resolve undiminished
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30. they can lock me up but they cannot lock up the truth the truth is always the truth whether in prison under torture or awaiting execution the truth is the truth. other organizers face 15 years in prison if found guilty of sedition and insulting the monarchy protests leaders say the campaign cannot be crushed. but. let me point how in the end no matter how many of us go to jail there will still be people that are still fighting. oh yeah and you're. in the meantime the families carry the burden either of not knowing where their loved ones are or 15 years of separation. joining us his rights activist. in bangkok she's been the subject of an ongoing investigation
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connected to her participation in a protest last summer and she faces possible jail time for that pym story where do things stand in thailand's democracy movement. right now it's kind of difficult because i mean. i mean of course because of situation as well as brick happened last year in december and after that it was pretty difficult for the movement to gain momentum there where it's at and mentally . in detention in pretrial detention in relation to the protests last year so i mean is there because time for everyone but we cannot do much it's just that we just have to keep fighting their way through and then maybe thinking about different wears off protests instead of going out and taking to us what we did here
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because it's now almost impossible. i want to talk about your case what are you being accused of and what did you do that you believe was within your rights. basically i. talking about the less much as there was the heaviest charge that i mean i'm facing so i gave a speech in the protest last year in so it is no wimber in front of 11 military infantry so basically i just call for the reform or the repeal of the less much as the law which is the law in saudi monarchy and i actually didn't talk about him so or anyone in his family so basically i just core that what your former you is this your reporter on freedom that we talk about a lot into it also 70 and so you talk about the cases in thailand and then he said . this is for less much as they endure more cryptic countries so i was quite at
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that. and that appeared in my complaint paper that the police told me on. 21st of december and i replied it myself so in this part i think it's super strength basically because i didn't talk about securing the queen or the air or the region i'm so so is calling for the repu already i'm in man on the power and just quoting someone else now you talked about the pandemic slowing things down a bit and the fact that leaders have also been arrested the government has been in moveable in the face of mass demonstrations in your country what do you think it will take for the political system to change. i mean 1st of all. it's important for the we ok last year i mean
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if you followed to the most recent demands or to criticize demands that 3 things so the 1st thing is research nation of the problem is the the 2nd thing is we drop off the constitution and the 3rd thing is we fall off the monarchy and of course these 3 things have to go along together and but what to take for this change in the politicos this of course is the we drop off the constitution at this point because it's probably the country cannot really move forward with the constitution we are using right now. too many laws in the constitution and the upper house would i mean i'm sure you know about it already but isn't this the main thing that the upper house that have to meet elected or not are appointed by the little rico commission would have basically the right to what for the prime minister so it
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means you can recollect as many times you want but the upper house you share in the results of the elections anyway so this is the thing election reform tents are a patch not rob thank you so much for joining us. in pakistan women are facing death threats following their participation in a march for equal rights on international women's day the taliban has threatened activists and 2 courts have even ordered investigations into whether women committed blasphemy that they spoke ill of the prophet muhammad based on clearly doctored video clips prime minister iran khan was then asked in a question and answer session with the public about the rising incidence of rape in the country to which he responded by blaming the victims he said it has to do with what women wear the response at least on social media has been fierce pakistani
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human rights lawyer remember omar called khan's comments ignorant dangerous and condemn nable another woman deal obeid posted it's hard enough being a woman in this country we honestly deserve better than this and eman zeinab siri has ear tweeted the only place where blame rests is with the rapist and the system that enables him. we have. joining us to talk more about this penis we just saw some of the tweets in response to the prime minister's comments can you tell us a little bit more about how people have reacted. hi melissa block is sonny's are angry they're frustrated that their leader prime minister of pakistan harbors such problematic view was that links women's clothing to sick should while insecure in style and you know what that research has rejected these kind of view was across the board my twitter timeline was filled with angry tweets actually schooling the
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prime minister dead rape is a much more complicated crime and his crime and it's not only related to sexual frustration they're actually they were actually schooling that minister that it's more of a rape it's more of a show of what authority does she and woman and her family they were also women activists 3 thing and asking a prime minister to actually apologize on his statement prime minister of pakistan said in his statement i did are all these people in this society who have low we have little bit dick i'm going to address that dish and so he was actually implying that if their bodies they were not beauty and this kind of woman rights activists say that this kind of statement is problematic and they actually asked for him to apologize to the public on the statement has quite a few opinions about women in their place and role to society and for a former cricketer who travelled the world he's quite disparaging of what he calls
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western values tell me a little bit more about that. ok rob hahn has studied it and he meant he wasn't just national celebrity and he had an image of playboy there were articles published about to scandals his affair but yet. as soon as he joined politics and bought this don he started he became more religious and guns other defend his views and he portrays the west as a society that is immortal that has no family values and he kind of still has this a fear among pakistanis and if they follow western values up against any society the family system in buckets and he says i do believe this wrapped divorce rate a 1000000000 trees he says has been a divorce stories so he has he his personality is on the sea a lot of contradiction gone flicked when he is giving a modern literature. a lot of he would only say to iraq assignees and you were at
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the women's rights protest last month what did you see and what do women of pakistan want yeah so i was at the march as it's a nascent movement but it's very provocative and board of women's rights movement has a history in pakistan but this movement recently started but there's any woman on street i was there oh. gosh women stay the use slogans that you sports does duns and other form of art to express that anger against government against religious scholars who have not been able to give rights to the woman they deserve and this kind of boredom this is not really well accepted by the conservative segments of the society it's a grassroots movement but because of of the openness and the born ness and anger these women show on the streets. it's not really accepted by the kinds of it gives and unfortunately these women are fighting the fight alone without any backing of
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the government. of it it's always fantastic to speak to you thank you so much thank you very much. that's it for today you can find more on our web site d w dot com for asia check out our facebook and twitter as well we're back tomorrow see you then good bye to. the fight against the corona virus pandemic. as the rate of infection in developing what does the latest research say. information and context the coronavirus update coming 19 special. on t w. w's crime fighters are back to africa's most successful radio drama series continues this season the stories focus on hate
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of live lives profit driven. and globally connected. or has this pandemic sparked irreparable change. hello and welcome to the show this week we're thinking about life after the pandemic we're asking experts in areas like urban planning climate change and even nutrition to tell us what they've learned so far and what those lessons mean for the future today we look at crisis management and began with a report from taiwan located near the airport told in hospital was one of taiwan keepers against the virus authorities have stan the 5th of comparing cases here for cheat men since the start of 2020 but in january this year and infected duck church aker the fresh outbreak several of his coworkers were later tested positive taiwan faced its biggest coronavirus crisis since the start of the pandemic in the.
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hospital acquired infections very serious and hard to control the patients in the hospital need health care workers to take care of them. there next to each other it's impossible to just quarantine hospital workers and leave patients alone you are in. a. long work service central epidemic command center has 13 decided to set himself up in the hospital to directly oversee communications from the command center but woman. we had to contain the virus. in the large hospital of more than 2600 employees in the route 700 in patients one wrong decision coolly to the charge of the similar to the 2003 sars outbreak then the government locked down a hospital where even healthy people were not allowed to leave leading to 154 infections and 31 death. it was ok when there were only one or 2 cases in the
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hospital. but when there were more and more people come from positive tests we were definitely nervous. you know we were afraid of getting phone calls in the middle of the night hearing about yet another new case. this time the command center we acted quickly tracking all possible contacts and hold current t.v. over 4300 people they also chose for a negative test to patients to other hospitals to decrease their workload all staff after 14 days with no new come from paces all hospital employees have to do mass testing to convince the public that a hospital is safe in $44.00 days it was contained with only $21.00 cases and just one death transparency and honesty is the very important and you have to keep the people the reason why you want to have. a very strange encounter and very strange
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in home quarantine and this is we have to show that piece very very useful to prevent a future pandemic chance said no car cheese can fight alone but i would like to emphasize that important thing is the prudence of it as we have to keep by all the possible outbreak in all the countries to prevent its spread off now tell in hospital is back to relative normality the seris experience reminded the government and its people not to let history repeat itself a lesson not only for taiwan but for the world in its approach to tackling this vast breading virus. martin reeses co-founder of the center for the study of existential risk an interdisciplinary research group focused on studying and developing strategies to risks that could threaten humanity martin good to have you on the show 1st of all let's start with the pandemic before we start about talk about exits existential rest rather can barely even say the word we just saw about
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taiwan and how its management of the pandemic has been shaped by sars but at the same time other countries have had their own experiences with infectious diseases and yet they've struggled in their management of the pandemic why do we see that it differs so much from country to country. well i think we in the u.k. had prepared renew to ns a pandemic but because we didn't have extensive sars and of course coronaviruses need different preparations then you protected the crippled for everyone and it's hard to develop a vaccine etc so we in the u.k. were badly prepared as i think in some respects were european countries and i think the taiwan under government it was more trusted perhaps than our u.k. government was by its people and not. do you believe that we're worse long term planners than we believe we are potentially or do we just lack imagination or is it
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a combination of both and i think real worst long term planners obviously we can't predict when the pandemic will strike but no one could say it was unlikely given that we had a mers in the past and i think there's some lessons we can learn obviously one is that it pays to build in a bit of slack in the system or resilience and in france as i know in germany you have more empty beds in your intensive care ward than we normally have we try to keep them full time which means you've got no capacity and also we shouldn't spend so much on supply shades for manufacturing because if you have just one long chain and one link breaks that screws up a lot of manufacturing so i think we've learnt that it would have resilience the maximum efficiency ok so perhaps not the best long term planners for things like pandemics even though actually they're quite likely what about for truly existential threats where you're focused on that could be anything i gather from
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a more serious illness to an asteroid potential asteroid strike what's that mean for planning for those threats. well of course you can't they're just extremes and i should say that limit astronomer i'm not kept awake at night by asteroids threats etc because they are small threats and no bigger now than they were of the dinosaurs they are rare but the threats that we do worry about are those which are caused by humans either collectively changing the climate and causing mass extinction visitor or by misuse of powerful technology has bio and. so does everybody about and they will give us a bumpy ride through this century they could cause a complete extinction i think that's frankly very unlucky we're concerned with these extreme risks which we need to prepare for and going back to the covert 19
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it's going to cost the world at least $20.00 trillion dollars over the next 2 years and they're not the specs given it was a dozen likely we should have spent probably hundreds of billions of dollars in the kind of preparation making sure that we monitor all the places where the disease can transfer from humans lanham us to humans that setter and dream or prepared to stock up on a plate of clothing enormous we've learned our lesson that it's worth a bigger investment if you will prepare that investment and that preparation that readiness that always comes with other costs not just money for example but there are certain social costs that come with that as we've seen in the pandemic as well just responding to the crisis that's been a great cost in terms of social well being perhaps in terms of economic wellbeing for for livelihoods have we and we fully measured the social and economic impacts of the pandemic or does it mean for our planning for crises. well we have it and i think one possibly the 9 effect of the crisis is to really realize how important
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workers are not just in the health service but delivery drivers care as a people are now who in our system are under supported poorly paid and in secure jobs and i think one lesson you ought to learn is some. minimize will reduce inequality this was to be actually accentuated by the pandemic and people like myself for instance who go on working from home cetera but many people can't and those who are in cramped apartments with no guards etc and had a really tough times i think the experience of the pandemic has accession rated the effects of inequalities which many of us think are far too great anyway and they have to be pressure to reduce them aren't rance is co-founder of the center for the study of x. existential risk at work right especially martin thank you so much for joining us
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thank you very much. for our science correspondent there quinces also thinking about the future here he is with a question on the future of m.r. in a technology. we came up with maxine for covert and under a year what do developments like that mean for the future of healthcare. couvade 19 has sparked advances in a really wide range of fields but i want to focus on one advance in particular that experts say will change health care in fundamental ways and that's messenger r.n.a. technology in cells and more n a is the molecule that allows information from the archive of the genome to be turned into into the physical metabolic reality of proteins and
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controlling and tailoring proteins is a tool of incredible power the scientists have been trying for decades to harness the m.r. in a information system to fight a huge range of diseases then the pandemic heads and all that hard work ended up turbocharging the development and the launch of the m r n a vaccines now in use the 1st ever to be approved that's released the floodgates i think and we can expect more vaccines based on the platform to hit the market in the next couple of years including highly individualized vaccines that help your immune system for example 0 in on cancer mastering m.r. and they will allow us to shift treatments for many diseases away from today's approach which is to mitigate symptoms with medications and towards addressing
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the real wootz of diseases and that's huge. and that's it for today's peak in the future. check back with us tomorrow thanks for watching stay safe so you got. the ball. the bombings. the bombs. the bigger the.
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