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live lines profit driven. and globally connected. or has this pandemic sparked irreparable change. hello and welcome to the show this week we're thinking about life after the pandemic we're asking experts in areas like urban planning climate change and even nutrition to tell us what they've learned so far and what those lessons mean for the future today we look at crisis management and began with a report from taiwan located near de airport toll in hospital was one of taiwan's be keepers against the virus authorities have stan the 5th of confirmed cases here for cheap men since the start of 2020 but in january this year an infected doctor ticker the fresh outbreak several of his coworkers were later tested positive taiwan faced its biggest core of the virus crisis since the start of the pandemic
in the. hospital acquired infections very serious and hard to control the patients in the hospital need health care workers to take care of them and it was there next to each other it's impossible to just quarantine hospital workers and leave patients alone you are in. the wood wallwork service center epidemic command center has then decided to set himself up in the hospital to directly oversee communications from the command center but woman. wait do we have to contain the virus come in time with the difference or you know in the large hospital of more than 2600 employees in the route 700 in patients one wrong decision coolly to the charge of the similar to the 2003 sars outbreak then the government locked down a hospital where even healthy people were not allowed to leave leading to 154 infections. and 31 death. was ok when there were only one or 2 cases in the
hospital bridge but when there were more and more people come from positive we were definitely nervous we were afraid of getting phone calls in the middle of the night hearing about yet another new case. this time the command center reacted quickly tracking all possible contacts and hold quarantining over 4300 people they also transferred negative test to patients to other hospitals to decrease the workload on the staff after 14 days with no new come from places all hospital employees have to do mass testing to convince the public that a hospital is safe in 44 days it was contained with only 21 cases and just one death transparency and honesty is the very important and you have to keep the people the reason why you want to have. a very strange encounter and very strange
in home quarantine and everything is we have to show that everything is there. very useful to prevent a future pandemic chance said no car cheese can fight alone but i would like to emphasize that important thing is the prudence of it as we have to keep our all the possible outbreak in all the countries to prevent its spread off now tell and hospital is back to relative normality the sars experience reminded the government and its people not to let history repeat itself a lesson not only for taiwan or for the world in its approach to tackling this vast breading virus. martin reece is co-founder of the center for the study of existential risk an interdisciplinary research group focused on studying and developing strategies to risks that could threaten humanity martin's good to have you on the show 1st of all let's start with the pandemic before we start about talk about x. it's an existential risk. rather than fairly consider the work we just saw about
taiwan and how its management of the pandemic has been shaped by sars but if same time other countries have had their own experiences with infectious diseases and you think struggled and their management of the pandemic why do we see that differ so much from country to country when i think we in the u.k. had prepared early through ends of pandemic but because we didn't have extensive sars and of course coronaviruses need different preparations then you protective equipment for everyone and it's hard to develop a vaccine etc so we in the u.k. were badly prepared as i think in some respects were european countries and i think the taiwan other government that was more trusted perhaps than our u.k. government was by its people and not. do you believe it were worse long term planners than we believe we are potentially or do we just lack imagination or is it a combination of both and i think we'll worst long term planners obviously we can't
predict when the pandemic will strike but no one could say it was unlikely given that we had a mers in the past and i think there's some lessons we can learn obviously one is that it pays to build in a bit of slack in the system or resilience and in france as i know in germany you have more empty beds in your intensive care ward than we normally have we try to keep them full time which means you've got no knows their capacity and also we shouldn't spend so much on supply shades for manufacturing because if you have just one long chain and one link breaks that screws up a lot of manufacturing so i think we've learnt that it's more put have resilience than maximum efficiency. ok so perhaps rather best long term planners for things like pandemics even though actually they're quite likely what about for truly existential threats where here focused on that could be anything i gather from
a more serious illness to an asteroid potential asteroid strike what's that mean for planning for those threats. of course you can't they're just extremes and i should say that limit astronomer i'm not kept awake at night by asteroids threats etc because they are small threats and no bigger now than they were of the dinosaurs they are rare but the threats that we do worry about are those which are caused by humans and either collectively change the climate and causing mass extinction or by misuse of powerful technologies by one side cetera so does everybody about and they will give us a bumpy ride through this century they could cause a complete extinction no i think that's frankly very unlikely we're concerned with these extreme risks which we need to prepare for and going back to the covert 19
it's going to cost the world at least $20.00 trillion dollars over the next 2 years and then at the specs if given it was a dozen likely we should have spent probably hundreds of billions of dollars in the kind of preparation making sure that we monitor all of places where the disease can transfer from humans from animals to humans it's etter and dream or prepared to stock up on a plate of clothing enormous we've learned our lesson that it's worth a bigger investment if you will prepare. that investment that preparation that readiness that always comes with other costs not just money for example but there are certain social costs that come with that as we've seen in the pandemic as well just responding to the crisis that's been a great cost in terms of social well being perhaps in terms of the economic well being for for livelihoods have we have we fully measured the social and economic impacts of the pandemic what does that mean for our planning for crises as well we have and i think one possibly the 9 effect crisis is to really realize how
important workers are not just in the health service but delivery drivers care as a people like now who in our system are under supported poorly paid and in a secure jobs and i think one lesson you ought to learn is to. minimize will juice inequality this was really actually accentuated by the pandemic and people like myself for instance who go on working from home cetera but many people can't and those who are in cramped apartments there's no guards etc and the really tough times i think the experience of the pandemic has excess you aged the effects of inequalities which many of us think of are too great anyway and i hope the pressure to reduce them aren't rhesus co-founder of the center for the study of x x the central risk i'll get that word right especially martin thank you so much for
joining us thank you very much well our science correspondent there quince is also thinking about the future here is with a question on the future of m.r. in a technology. we came up with maxine for a covert military year what do developments like that mean for the future of healthcare . couvade 19 has sparked advances in a really wide range of fields but i want to focus on one advance in particular that experts say will change health care in fundamental ways and that's messenger r.n.a. technology in cells m r n a is the molecule that allows information from the archive of the genome to be turned into into the physical metabolic reality of proteins and
controlling and tailoring proteins is a tool of incredible power scientists have been trying for decades to harness the m.r. in a information system to fight a huge range of diseases then the pandemic heads and all that hard work ended up turbocharging the development and the launch of the m r n a vaccines now in use the 1st ever to be approved that's released the floodgates i think and we can expect more vaccines based on the platform to hit the market in the next couple of years including highly individualized vaccines that help your immune system for example 0 in on cancer mastering m.r. and they will allow us to shift treatments for many diseases away from today's approach which is to mitigate symptoms with medications and towards addressing
focus on hate speech the invention of sustainable chocolate production. all of the suits are available online and of course you can share and discuss on africa's facebook page and other social media platforms. hard freighters to need to know. you're watching the news coming up today whatever happened to the protests in thailand last summer activists took to the streets day in and day out and their fight continues now in the courts as the government targets pro-democracy leaders in an attempt to slow the movement. plus pakistan's courts the authorities and even the prime minister have attacked activist in the women's rights movement.
i'm melissa chan thank you for joining us we want to take a closer look at thailand today the ongoing civil unrest in the country has not gone away and in fact many of the leaders of the pro-democracy demonstrations throughout 2020 are now in court facing years in prison in amnesty international's big annual report out today on the state of human rights around the world the entry for thailand talks about widespread repression and the use of enforced disappearances this includes the case of one chalet on south sucks it who disappeared while living in exile last year he's yet another suspected victim of the thai authorities assault on dissent. save one chile on the demand this was june 2020 days after one chilly arms not socks it approved democracy blogger was abducted in cambodia. c.c.t.v.
footage captured 2 men stopped in their tracks as they reportedly watch one chilly arm being bundled into an issue. because he was targeted one day after uploading this video mocking thailand's prime minister. he has not been seen since his the 9th such case of a thai exile disappearing since 2060. 5 if one charlie arm is dead we want his body brought back to thailand. in the past year thailand's military has reacted with an iron fist to a growing youth movement calling for democratic reforms rolling up dozens of activists under strict laws that forbid any criticism of the mourner. last month the architects of the uprising began filling up courts their resolve undiminished.
30. they can lock me up but they cannot lock up the truth the truth is always the truth whether in prison under torture or awaiting execution the truth is the truth. other organizers face 15 years in prison if found guilty of sedition and insulting the monarchy protest leaders say the campaign cannot be crushed. in the end no matter how many of us go to jail there will still be people outside that are still fighting. and. in the meantime the families carry the burden either of not knowing where their loved ones are are facing years of separation. joining us has rights activists. in bangkok she's been the subject of an ongoing investigation connected
to her participation in a protest last summer and she faces possible jail time for that history where do things stand in thailand's democracy movement. right now it's kind of doth difficult because i mean things thoughts. i mean of course because of the 900 situation as well. an outbreak happened last year in december and after that it cost created if you go forward a movement to gain momentum the way it's had and mentally dissed in detention in pretrial detention in relation to the protests last year so i mean is time for everyone but we cannot do much just that we just have to keep fighting their way through and then maybe thinking about different wears off protests instead of going out and then taking this like what we did last year because it's now almost
impossible. i want to talk about your case what are you being accused of and what did you do that you believe was within your rights. basically i. talking about their less my just which was the heaviest charge i mean i'm facing so i gave a speech in the protest last year in so to november in front of 11 military infantry so basically i just called for the reform or the repu of less much as the law which is the law in saudi monarchy and i actually didn't talk about if he could himself or anyone in his family so basically i just core that what your former you is this your reporter on freedom is crazy and then we talk about a law into toso 70 and so you talk about the cases in thailand it didn't he said
that's not this or less much as they endure more cryptic countries so i was quite at that. and that appeared in my complaint paper that the police told me on. 21st of december when i replied it myself so in this part i think it's basically because i didn't talk about securing the queen or the air or the region i'm so so is just calling for the repu already of many men on the bar. and just quoting someone else now you talked about the pandemic slowing things down a bit and the fact that leaders have also been arrested the government has been in moveable in the face of mass demonstrations in your country what do you think it will take for the political system to change. i mean 1st of all. it's important for the we ok last year i mean
if you followed the most recent demands or to criticize the man is that 3 things so the 1st thing is we stick nation of the problem is the 2nd thing is really dropped off the constitution and the 3rd thing is we fall off the monarchy and of course these 3 things have to go along together and but what to take for this change in the political thing of course is the we drop off the constitution at this point because this is really the country cannot really move forward with the constitution we are using right now. too many laws in the constitution and the upper house would i mean i'm sure you know about it already but if this is the main thing that the house that have to be to elect it or not are appointed by the little rico commission would have basically the right to was for the prime minister so it means
you can win elections many times you want but the upper house you share in the result of the elections anyway so this is the thing election reform tents are a patch now and rob thank you so much for joining us. in pakistan women are facing death threats following their participation in a march for equal rights on international women's day the taliban has threatened activists and 2 courts have even ordered investigations into whether women committed blasphemy that they spoke ill of the prophet muhammad based on clearly doctored video clips prime minister imran khan was then asked in a question and answer session with the public about the rising incidence of rape in the country to which he responded by blaming the victims he said it has to do with what women wear the response at least on social media has been fierce by the study
human rights lawyer remember omar called khan's comments ignorant dangerous and condemn nable another woman deal obeid posted it's hard enough being a woman in this country we honestly deserve better than this and in my own sign up my theory has here tweeted the only place where blame rests is with the rapist and the system that enables him we have. joining us to talk more about this penis we just saw some of the tweets in response to the prime minister's comments can you tell us a little bit more about how people have reacted. i'm melissa block just on these are angry they're frustrated that their leader prime minister of pakistan harbors such problematic view was that links women's clothing to sick should while insecure in style and you know what that research has rejected these kind of few was across the world my twitter timeline was filled up and the tweets actually schooling the
prime minister dead rape is a much more complicated crime and his crime and it's not only did it did do sexual frustration there actually they were actually just willing to minister that it's more of rape it's more of a show of what authority does she and woman and her family they were also women activists tweeting and asking a prime minister to actually apologize on his statement prime minister of pakistan said in his statement i did all these people in this society who have low weak bob who have no bill dick i'm going to address that dish and so he was actually implying that if the women covered their bodies they were not beauty ped and this kind of woman rights activists say that this kind of a statement is problematic and they actually asked for him to apologize to public on the statement. has quite a few opinions about women in their place and role to society and for a former cricketer who traveled the world he's quite disparaging of what he calls
western values tell me a little bit more about that. ok rug hang has studied it and when he was in the interest national celebrity and he had an image of playboy there were articles published about to scandals his affair. but yet. as soon as he joined politics and focused on he started he became more religious and guns over defend his views and he portrays the west as a society that is immortal that has no family values and he kind of still has this a fear among pakistanis it if therefore the western values is any society the family system in black is a nice idea but it just rocked the divorce rate a 1000000000 trees he says has been a divorce stories so he has he his personality is on the sea a lot of contradiction gone flicked but he is giving them what a lecture. a lot of he would only say to iraq assignees and you were at the women's
rights protest last month what did you see and what do women of pakistan want yeah so i was at the march and it's a nice thing to movement but it's very provocative and bold of women's rights movement has a history in pakistan but this this movement recently started but there's any woman give one street i was there. on 8 march international men stay the use slogans they use sports does duns and other form of art to express that anger against government against religious scholars who have not been able to give rights to the woman they deserve and this kind of boredom this is not very well accepted by the conservative segments of the society it's a grassroots movement because of off the openness and the border ness and the anger these women show on the streets. it's not going to accept it by the kinds of it is that unfortunately these women are fighting the fight alone without any backing of
the government. of it it's always fantastic to speak to you thank you so much thank you very much. that's it for today you can find more on our web site d w dot com forward slash asia check out our facebook and twitter as well we're back tomorrow see you then good bye. i'm scared that the room that's hard and in the end is the me you're not allowed to see you anymore we was into that. are you familiar with. the smugglers what alliance and. what's your story. 'd with numbers and women especially in victims of violence. take part and send us
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