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dot com ah, the stand off between russia in the west over ukraine, or why did the united nations today the u. s. called an emergency meeting of the security council. the only objection came from moscow and b, g. what we saw was a public diplomatic brawl to us accusing russia of acting like a bully, preparing to strike moscow, accusing washington of creating a crisis with fear. marguerite, now we've heard this all over and over again. tonight we ask, are we closer to peace, or are we closer to war? i'm break off in berlin. this is the day. ah, the situation we're facing in europe. it's purging danger,
refill lacked credible explanations by russia of his actions. milton, the discussion about the imminent threat of war is inherently provocative. if russia further in days ukraine, none of us will be able to say we didn't see it coming, plays on experience. we cannot believe russian declarations. but only practical moves on withdrawal of troops from the boy. oh, also coming up serious failures at the heart of government. a u. k. report into walk down breaking parties in downing street is blaming failures of leadership and judgment. so what does prime minister boars johnson have to say for himself? i get it, and i will fix it. and i want to soon to the people of this country. i know what the issue is
when to our viewers watching a p p. s in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day taking the talks over the ukranian crisis public. today at the request of the united states, despite the objections of russia and china, the un security council convened in new york hoping to do what weeks of talks between the us native, the european union, ukraine and russia have failed to do. reduce the probability and the fear of war. today's meeting as it stands, this hour did not change the entrenched positions of moscow in washington. the meeting did however, reveal just how low relations between the us and russia have suck. in fact, it hasn't been this bad since the cold war ended some 30 years ago, and called right in the middle europe and ukraine. here is ukraine's un ambassador . ukraine strongly rejects any attempt to use to spread the force as an instrument
of pressure to make a crane and our partners except illegitimate demands. there is no room for compromise on principle is use the most principal position of for ukraine's that we have inherent, sobering right. to choose our own security arrangements, including treaties of alliance, which cannot be questioned by russia. mo, all them, these ride is in strained in many international legal instruments. the thrush, a self, a body to my 1st gifts to 9 says this crisis over ukraine is about more than the threat of a russian invasion. it is about the transit lennox security order, as we know it, and rushes determination to change it. in her latest book putin's world russia against the west and with the rest, professor angela stent analyzes what is motivating. vladimir putin,
especially in his foreign policy, professors did, is a former us national intelligence officer for russia in eurasia, she told in georgetown university school of foreign service. she's a fellow at the brookings institution and she is my guess this evening professor said it's good to have you on the day as far as we know. nothing has changed on the ground following today's un security council meeting. do you think today's meeting will make a difference at all? i think it was very important to have that meeting today, because this is not just a crisis between russia and the u. s. in europe. this is a crisis. it can have global ramifications if that's a bore. so it was very important to present it to the world, to all the other countries, to listen to this and to take in what it means to have a large neighbor threatened to invade a country for no apparent reason. i don't know whether it's going to move anything
forward. i clearly, china is going to back russia in whatever it does. but i think it was important to get those cards on the table. you know, just a few days ago, foreign affairs published a piece by you and titled, the putin doctrine and you write that the crisis over ukraine in russia is a reckoning, 3 decades in the making. talk to me about that, how is it a reckoning? because i think in the 990 s, the u. s. in europe tried to create a new euro, atlantic security order after the collapse of the soviet union in which russia would have a stake, which russia would believe in. but we were unable to do this in the really what had to happen was what did happen was that the u. s. in europe really favor if you like the security concerns off central and eastern europe, which after all, had been over the centuries, invaded and occupied by russia. that was one favorite over the interest of russia, which would have been to kind of recreate a system where russia had
a sphere of influence over the, let's say post soviet states which the west recognized. we weren't willing to do this. and this is where we are now. in 1994, the partnership for peace initiative launched under which new allies would gain contingent membership in nato, but only in phases. and so this was the phased enlargement of nato. that was taking into consideration the, the border sensibility and sensitivities of russia. now, this idea did not last long, does it deserve a resurrection? now the partnership for peace at the time is seen as an alternative to membership. and that's what burgess yeltsin understood when the russian signed this agreement. so that was never an agreement that that was going to be a phased enlargement of nato. what happened was you had one wave in 1099 when 3
countries joined. and then the rest of them in 2004 and then a couple boys since then. so as far as i know, native doesn't have any plans at the moment to accept any of the countries. maybe one or 2 balkan countries if they qualify. but so the idea that there's going to be extensive further enlargement of nato really doesn't reflect reality. ukraine. let's talk a little bit about ukraine security trip if you will. in 1900 for ukraine, agreed to destroy its nuclear weapons and to join the treaty on the non proliferation of nuclear weapons. do you think when they're sitting behind closed doors in kia, they think that that was a mistake and show those conversations taking place? i remember at the time there was a big discussion about, well, if we give up on nuclear weapons, are we going to make ourselves vulnerable? don't forget, of course, at the did sign. the budapest memorandum in 1994. when ukraine shipped it's nuclear
weapons to russia and the russians guaranteed you crank territorial integrity and sovereignty. may i ask you a little bit about the role of germany in this crisis? i mean, germany has been criticized heavily recently for only sending helmets to ukraine and for being noncommittal when it comes to using the north stream to gas pipeline as a possible weapon to deter russia or maybe even to punish russia. we saw this under former transfer angle america, and we're seeing it again now under the current chancellor. this reluctance to take moscow to task. do you think germany is engaged in sugar coating history when it comes to russia? while germany obviously feels a historical responsibility for having twice invaded russia and the soviet union in the 20th century and in world war 226000000. so we, it citizens died. so that's understandable. on the other hand, we do have to remember that the nazi invasion of the soviet union began in ukraine
and beatrice. so of course, as a historical responsibility towards ukrainians who died in world war 2. i understand why germany doesn't want to ship arms to you, craig. it is part of this historical responsibility i, but i believe germany is supplying a field hospital to ukrainians, germany supplying of the things to the ukrainians, short of weapons, and with the north stream pipeline. this is obviously an issue of contention in the con german government. certainly because the greens of course would be quite pleased to say that they would close it down. my understanding is that if there were to be a full scale invasion of ukraine than i do think that the german government would think about or might agree to never opening the windstream to it feels like when we look at this whole crisis and what has been discussed in the month of january alone, it feels like that we are trapped in the cold war. how will we be able to break
out of this? i think in the long run, the only if there, if there is hopefully no invasion and no real war, we will have to, as time goes on and reassess how we view euro atlantic security and how we talk to the russians about that at the moment i think it's impossible to do because we're not going to say nato will never and lodge, or nato will retreat to where it was in $1097.00, which is what the russians have now demanded. but they will have to be some, if you like. 3rd, we organization, if you're online, think security since $945.00, and hopefully one in which russia would have a state in which would not encourage it to act in such a destructive way. is there an official organisation, or is there any way that you could describe what this realignment or this reorganization would look like?
me would it mean, would it mean a smaller nato, for example? well, i am think it's going to mean a small and a that we have the organization for security and cooperation in europe. it's existed in some form since 975. that could maybe be used to discuss some of these issues at the moment. the russians are very critical of the o. s. c. that might be a start beijing today voted with moscow against holding the security council meeting in public, saying, and i'm quoting here, now what we need is quiet diplomacy, not to microphone diplomacy. mean that was a surprise to people who, who know the histories of russia and china, particularly if the un what, what do you think the outcome of this, this crisis over ukraine? what is it going to, to teach us about the u. s. is a policy towards china. i mean, will it impact the u. s. foreign policy regarding john?
well, i think it's already impacted that policy because the bike administration is spending an inordinate amount of time now dealing with russia and this russia ukraine crisis . where is it wanted to focus on dealing with china, and that was the point of trying to create a stable and predictable relationship with russia. i think the other lesson from this is, of course, the worse, the animosity, the atlas relationship between russia and the west is the more, the sort of pushes russia to what china makes it more dependent on china. because in the end, china is really going to be the only country to which russia will turn a if there is an incursion. and even if there isn't in such a tense relationship, so we are in a sense, aiding and abetting the gradient dependence of russia on china. i've got about 30 seconds left professor, stand me just ask you. do you think we're going to see a military confrontation over ukraine? i hope not. i think at the moment it's too early in a sense to say that we won't,
but we could see a confrontation that short of a full military invasion that has other aspect, cyber. i'm some kind of more limited action. i think we will see something happen. right, professor angela stant, joining us tonight from washington d. c. professor and it was good to have your the program please come back and join us again. thank you. i will. thank you. well, the mid fears of an invasion, a growing number of ordinary ukrainian civilians are taking up arms. the city of car keith is ukraine's 2nd largest and it's not far from the russian border. now some women there are learning how to use machine guns with the intention of making it as difficult as possible for russia to invade. ukrainian women from all walks of life are training to shoot. with the help of an instructor, the volunteers are learning how to operate machine guns on weekends. these women
are willing to do whatever it takes is the most important. if our government hands out weapons, we will take them and defend our city. during the 1st days, we will use our weapons that we have already authorized on the border issue of luckily, both together they have a plan to help secure the lives of the most vulnerable you team would be with the move middle drilling will be taken to relatively safe spot, maybe somewhere deeper into country or close to the border and we will monitor the situation. we can decide, okay, but it won't. but then for the wants of, with the volunteers make it clear. if russia wants to invade their city, there will be active resistance. but 55 year old victoria body sina wants to also show her resistance in another way. since to start the tensions, the native russian speaker is trying to speak ukrainian really. they.
the city has to be protected. russia has a big appetite and dera taking what they want to a piece by piece. the should not happen well in the book. but to other we need to do something, not panic, and fault or knees. we do not want that. i need to put that little one needs. the coaches a fresh does launch a cross border attack on the city of 1500000. the women here have vowed to stay and defend their home. ah, british prime minister boris johnson has apologized in parliament after a much anticipated report criticized failures of leadership and judgment in his government. the su, great report, found that gatherings which were held at the prime minister's residence were difficult to justify because of the pandemic rules that were in effect at the time
. and that said, johnson is still rejecting calls for him to quit over the skin. the prime minister, a crunch day for boris johnson, leaving his headquarters in london's downing street to give a statement in parliament on what's become known as the party gates scandal. firstly, i want to say, sorry, and i'm sorry for the things we simply didn't get right. and also sorry for the way that this matter has been handled and it's no use saying that this will, that was within the rules and is no you saying that people working hard? i don't the opposition lead a kiss. darma was quick to pounce movie st. johnson repeatedly claim the locked down rules were followed. despite the parties in downing street that the guide, we now know that 12 cases have reached the threshold for criminal investigation,
which i remind the house that means that there is evidence of serious and flagrant breaches of lockdown a contract. johnson acknowledged the reports. findings of failures of leadership and judgment. so mister speaker, i get it and i will fix it. ah, i want to soon to the people of this country. i know what the issue is. yes, it whether this government can be trusted to deliver. and i say this is because yes, we can see for us if we can be trusted to deliver a separate and continuing police investigation means the full party gate report has not yet been published. the only question is,
does anybody else have anything else my way or a detail that they could yet release into the public domain? particularly the prime minister, former advisor, dominic cummings, who has gone public over the weekend, saying that he's tried to actually remove maurice johnson from office for the moment that looks unlikely. johnson has survived countless scandals in the past. his many enemies are now eagerly awaiting the outcome of the police prob charlie chosen pill is covering the party gates scandal force she sent this assessment from one of the publication of this report happened billed to the make or break moment for the prime minister a time off to which amended in party would decide on his political future. now that report has now been watered down in light of the fact that there is a police investigation also on going to see gray or port this, as it's being cold,
is not going to any details about any of the alleged gatherings in light of a request from the police not to do so, so it doesn't carry the weight that it once is thought to have done full members of the prime minister's own party. they'll have to decide whether it's enough for them to gather to hand in that lapse is recognizing that they don't have any confidence in the prime minister, triggering this vote of no confidence the jury is out on them. i am at the moment over whether or not that will be the case that were a number who stood up earlier today in parliament criticizing the prime minister as some have done before in public as well. namely to day to resume the former prime minister. she said, the report shows that number 10 was not observing the regulations it imposed on the public. not really as the crux of this why there has been so much anger here. and i think some will decide that regardless of what members, if the prime, this is i am party do going forward the public has and has been making its own
judgments on the prime minister. ah, the pandemic has time and time again forced the question should social media and streaming sites be responsible for the content posted on their platforms? the debate rages on in tonight, the latest installment comes to us from the streaming service spotify there is outreach over spot, a 5 star podcast or joe rogan and the misinformation he continues to spread about the 19, the dispute had seen artis, neo young and joni mitchell removed their music from the platform that you case prince harry and his wife megan, who signed deals with spot. if i have also expressed concern over vaccine misinformation by defy now, says it will add advisory warnings to podcasts that discuss covet 19 joe rogan sparked the controversy after he interviewed
a prominent vaccine skeptic on his podcast, which is listened to by 11000000 people every day one things that spot if i wants to do that, i agree with is at the beginning of these controversial podcasts like specifically once about cove id, is to put a disclaimer and say that you should speak with your physician and that these people and the opinions that they express are contrary to the opinions of the consensus of experts, which i think is very important. i want to bring in scottsboro. he's our culture correspondent in all things podcast. got good to see you. we've got spotify breaking it, silence here, and saying ok, they're going to put the advisory up. now, any time a podcast deals with coven night, c. but are they responsible for their content that is being streamed on their platform? and at least in some way what you think. so,
i mean spot if i like both the social media companies or, or social or online platforms, likes to argue that they're essentially just the messenger. they're just carrying the content and they're not responsible for it. in this case with the go rogan podcast as a bit difficult to modify, to argue that they paid joe rogan up with the $100000000.00 spirit was the right to carry his podcast. then you can use the piper call, called the tune. so it's very difficult, i think response to argue they had, they are no responsibility for what a carried on. i'm sure when they signed with broken, they weren't anticipating this scandal or am i reading it wrong? well, i'm not sure if you listen to joe rosen's podcast, but he's well known for having very controversial get. yeah, if i knew what they were getting joe rogan himself might be considered controversial or not, but he's definitely a controversial guests on his show. that sort of his brand, and that's definitely what spotify was paying for. and he's incredibly popular
because of that. the 11000000 people listened to his podcasts every day. really love his his brand of controversy. so i think spot if i definitely knew what they were getting when they, when they paid for him. the interesting thing i think was spotify is that they don't usually take a hard line on freedom of speech. they've censored shows before. they said themselves that they pulled up words of 20000 podcast episodes off their platform for spreading false coded 19 information, so they're willing to pull shows off. they just haven't done it with joe rogan, who of course, happens to be their most successful podcast there. so whatever happens with this controversy, i don't think of yet as the one there case, at least not in the court of public a bit. and what about new young and joni mitchell? let me do you think these art is, do they have the leverage to force companies like spotify to change? i don't know, to sort of 60 spoke rockers, will have enough leverage to move one of the most powerful media companies in the
world. but what they could do is, is set a precedent and if they, if other artists follow them, if you see like more up to date artists not to offend mr. young a taylor taylor swift or the weekend say very powerful ars with huge followings. if they fall and pull their music off spotify, maybe we'll see the company start to move, especially because it could influence the image, the brand image of spot on. i think that's more what they're worried about. more that then subscribers a leaving the service so far. we haven't seen it an extra great exodus of subscribers from the service because of this protest, and i'm not sure if we will. we definitely haven't seen that from other services. like say netflix. when they've had similar type of controversies, we haven't seen people leave their service all mass. so we'll have to see if other are to sort of join with joni mitchell and neil young and protesting spotify than maybe we'll see some real changes aren't very on scott roxborough following the money and the music for scott. thank you
it. finally, we've got some encouraging words from pope francis to a group of people. everyone loves to hate. the head of roman catholic church told a group of the tally and tax collectors that they will never win a popularity contest really. but that their work is vital for the running of a fair society. he called taxation a sign of legality. and justice recent recent statistic suggests that italy loses 100000000000 years a year to tax evasion. your texas. the days almost on the conversation continues online, you'll find us on twitter, either dw news, you can follow me on twitter at brent gov tv. i remember whatever happens between now and bid. tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody
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