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draft opinion shows the u. s. supreme court has voted to strike down row the weight, the landmark $973.00 ruling that legalized abortion nationwide. and the decision would mean the banning of abortion in roughly half of us states. it would also be the culmination of a half century long push by conservatives dedicated to overturning the right to safe and legal abortions. activists have been sounding the alarm for years. now. they're looking at november's mid term elections in the hope congress could codify the right to abortion into federal law. i'm clear, richardson in berlin will have that and more on the day. ah, the supreme court is boys to inflict the greatest restriction of rights in the past, 50 years, overturning roe v wade with leave american women abandoned and alone. he will have grave consequences for women all across our country.
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honestly, i didn't think they would dare to go there. they are not going to get away with this. let me say, i don't care what i have to do. our children will have less rights than their parents. and we won't stand for it. i'm not going to sit quietly and neither should any of you. ah, also on the day growing evidence that russian soldiers are using rape as a weapon of war in ukraine. it's shaw and i missed a lot. they see the unless it's close to 12 cases, we're working on 11 our cases of gang rape isley add up in all of these cases, women reported that the occupiers were drunk or had taken drugs, or one does not with us on the oh no thanks. so much for joining us. what is one of the most contentious issues in us
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politics, the right to legal abortion across all 50 states. and that right has been guaranteed by laws since the 1973 roe v wade ruling. and now it looks like that right, me soon he removed a draft majority decision by judge a leto has been leaked to politico and it's as it stands, it means the end of roe. v wait. the supreme court chief justice has confirmed the authenticity of the document, saying it's not a final draft. an investigation in the leak has been opened at the results of the leak are already explosive. ah, the bomb shall league, set off a fireball of fear in the u. s capital as pro choice protestors gathered outside the supreme court. they are not going to get away with this. let me said, i don't care what i have to do, but they're not going to do this. the d. c. and they are not going to do this to america, there's more math in is of them, and we are want to fight the only addressed. it's as strong as evidence yet that
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a majority of the supreme court is preparing to overturn the right to abortion. a right established nearly half a century ago in the 1973 landmark ruling pro b weighed the opinion penned by justice, samuel elidah, and back by other conservative justices, goes further than many expected. the 98 page long document cult wrote egregiously wrong from the start. and we'll leave the fate of a woman's right to choose in the hands of lawmakers and individual states for anti abortion activists. it would mark a victory decades in the making made possible by pressing and donald trump, whose 3 appointments to the supreme court tilted to balance in conservatives favor . but for millions of women, the rule would come with a high cost. is many seguin, an abortion would have to travel to other states,
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to get one, a tall critic se would hit those already struggling emotionally and financially the hardest. currently, 26 a 50 states are set to ban or restrict abortion. many worry, it would deepen the divide in an already polarized country with democrats predicted to lose control of congress in the midterm elections. this november, progressive lawmakers are calling on the party to fight back before it's too late. in a tweet, sen, bernie sanders urged his colleagues to pass legislation securing the right to abortion with the controversial issue. now all per sure to dominate the coming months. america could be headed for a highly divisive midterm election. and for more on this, i am delighted to welcome carol sanger. she is a professor at columbia law and a scholar of reproductive rights, or most recent book on the subject about abortion,
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terminating pregnancy in the 21st century. thank you so much for taking the time to join us on the day professor. if the port does indeed overturn roe v wade, can you tell us how immediate the impact would be on americans? ability to access an abortion? really impact will be almost immediately. it will be an immediate impact because so many of these states who that oppose abortion have already enacted the legislation they mean meet need to criminalize it. so they pass these laws called trigger laws . nice american name, which suggests that the the minute were if they would say that the minute row is overturn it triggers the automatic enactment of the criminalization of abortion. so it will be immediate and some of the states had never repealed their
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criminal abortion laws from 9 to from the 1970s. so everybody on the, on the against side is raring and pretty ready to go. so what that was 1970 laws also then presumably be in effect as soon as this was overturned, unless they were repealed and a number of them were not repealed. so we have the trigger laws that were enacted after row. we have the laws that were in effect before row and the low go into effect and probably more pertinent for at the for, for women will also be this act. but clinics will close because doctors are not going to risk their licenses. they're not going to be performing illegal procedures . so it's 2 effects. one is the legal consequence and the other is the practical or actual. so that's not going to be in the, in all us states though, is it? no, it's not. it looks like it's split about half, half right now,
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but it is up to each state to make a decision. and there are probably 10 states, whoa, oregon decided they support legal abortion. and the way they've gone about that is by amending their state constitutions. so that there's a privacy clause, or something or other language which, which makes clear that abortion is respected and acknowledge right in that state. so states can do that. you can have a constitutional state right to abortion. so for people who are living in states that do out, why will it will it then be possible to travel to like the more liberal states which have put these into place to seek an abortion? yes, it will, and they won't meet. they won't be necessarily adjacent to one another, but they'll be the you can, you can travel there will certainly you stay to pass legislation saying you can't
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travel from an, an illegal state to a legal state to try to ban women from doing that. but those will be approached in those will be appealed to court and i think will be unsuccessful. because in the us we also don't have a right to travel from state to state. that's part of our federal do as citizens of the united states. ok, without something we can expect to be see, we can expect to potentially be played out before the courts. i want to ask you roe v wade. how about the right to privacy? includes decisions about abortion? a, but are there other parts of the constitution that could protect the right to abortion? should row the overturned as looking likely no, there might have been had privacy not been the the theory that, that was used by advocates in the early 19 seventy's. because clearly the elite of decision terrors down privacy in every way that it can and says,
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privacy is not in the constitution, privacy wouldn't cover abortion, even if it was, i mean, it really makes it in privacy, which is what anyway. and i and she thought that a better ground was sexy quality. and that if you look carefully at what bands on abortion do, what their real harm is. it is, it is an invasion of one's privacy to make an intimate decision. but it's also on a very different theory treating men and women differently based on sexual conduct that women are still assigned the stereotypical role of mothers and with an abortion ban, coerced, motherhood, or involuntary motherhood where men face nothing like that in the u. s. because oh, but the problem was based on privacy very, i mean the implications of this decision though will be about more than just
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abortion won't stay if it's based on privacy. what about other rights based on that presumption, like same sex marriage or even access to contraception? to contraception? yes, the language in row about privacy and about intimate decision making came straight out of a case from the 960. it's called griswold, connecticut, where connecticut had band the use of contraception by anybody including married couples. so a married couple sued to say it was unconstitutional in the court. the supreme court then said, you're right, it is, we believe marriage, marriage is a sacred institution. and that the state should not be intruding into the marital bedroom to see if people are using contraception or not. and that language that was and based on privacy. and that language was wholly transposed over to roe v wade.
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so the thought is, if world goes down, maybe you have to rewind the whole thing and pray and contraception bill will be taken away. there's also will worry about same sex relationships with same sex marriage so, so it's that this all remains to be seen. although judge elite host said no, no, those are different. don't worry. you just because we're, we're knocking out abortion doesn't mean we'd mock out contraception. and his reason is because there's no fetus involved in contraception. but there are children involved in contraception or the idea of children and the same with marriage. so i don't know that his it's not exactly a pledge, but his suggestion that those other subjects won't be touched. i'm. i'm not banking on it. right? we will be keeping an eye on that in the weeks and months to come, professor carol saying, are at columbia law. i want to thank you again so much for joining us on the day.
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it will come ah, well, there is growing evidence that russian soldiers are using rape as a weapon of war in ukraine. in areas retaken from russian troops, civilians are giving horrifying accounts of sexual violence. ukraine's human rights ombudsman has received hundreds of reports for the true numbers are impossible to calculate. did of you correspondent rebecca readers went to butcher on the outskirts of keep a place has been devastated by invading russian soldiers. there she heard the story of one young woman whose parents still don't know exactly what happened to her, and a warning to viewers me find this next report. disturbing. this is carina you show over. she was about to turn 23 when russian soldiers marched into her town future on the outskirts of cave. carina had plans. she was managing the local sushi bar, but was saving money to study at university. this is the last place where sure
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carina was saying alive the stairs outside her flat. it was march 10th. after this everything becomes unclear. this is where one man, one man thinks he saw russian soldiers kill her, but he can't be sure if the woman was corina while some one else this with the with and i was you put her here, you of us. would you like this? another for head was bent back. then he took her in his arms and carried her over there, looked in an of a full, jumped shot tom, missouri. zip wouldn't you will you will be lou. this is where police told korean his parents, they found the body. they said it looked like she'd been raped, but is this what the police said that she was badly tortured because he showed her that my girl wanted to live so much? oh, that's always the revision even applied before anything is to her to stop the bleeding . oh, good ago. but the old den with a shot and the hell,
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the killed her softball will be forensic scientists examining the hundreds of bodies the russians left behind. so many of the women have been right. organizations across the country support those who survive. extra melissa, rocky leave on us as of to 12 cases. we are working on 11 our cases of gang rape. isley add up in all of these cases, women reported that the occupiers were drunk or had taken drugs law on business with us on the oh no, it's not. in all 12 cases, it was unprotected intercourse, which means a huge risk of unwanted pregnancy and disease. i push her room in financial foundation. so one thing she was wondering if i did the average to hong ukraine's commissioner for human rights tells me the she had number of coals makes
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them think russians are using right as a weapon. but the most good ha. okay, when a russian soldier rapes a ukranian woman, a girl wild boy, an elderly woman, it keeps saying things like this will happen to every nazi hor, god, or we will rape until you can't give birth g ukrainians. back of when you, these are signs of genocide of the ukraine on people of mark, you know, given up to the grand school, not all them for korean, his parents, the only certainty they have is their loss and their fury making age. we then human, we hate the russians, which i'm ashamed to speak, russian. i will learn ukrainian they buried corrina here and billet, circa near the morgue. 2 weeks after her 23rd birthday ukrainian fighters say russian forces have launched a fresh assault on the as ost all steel works in the besieged city of mario full.
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earlier a brief interlude, allowed some residents to be evacuated, but the cease fire broke down, leaving around $200.00 people trapped under grounds elsewhere in ukraine. both military targets and civilians are again under fire. yet more russian missiles falling on a ukrainian city. on monday it was a residential building in the black sea port of odessa. that was hit ukrainian authorities say the strike killed one teenager and wounded. another rushes defense ministry released these images of missile launches, but said they had struck a military air field near the city destroying supplies, sent ukraine from abroad. more than 500 kilometers. the east russian bombardment was also underway again in mario paul with russian rockets, pounding the as of stall steel works. just moments after over $100.00 civilians
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were evacuated under a cease fire. moscow set it started shelling again of the plans defend as youth the sci fi to get into new positions. cleaves, as hundreds, more civilians, as well as around 2000 ukrainian soldiers, a still hold up in the plant. the last part of the strategic city under ukrainian control us is wanting the moscow plans to bring not just marry a pole, but the whole eastern don best region of ukraine under its control permanently. according to the most recent reports, we believe the russia will try to annex the people's republic and hans people's republic in quote, so called to russia. the words state that russia has plans to engineer referenda on joining russian sometime in mid may. but while moscow has succeeded in
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reducing much of mary pole and other eastern cities to ruins, according to the case defense ministry, its efforts to advance and ukraine's east continue to make only slow progress in the face of stuff and resistance. i'd like to bring in michael kim as she is a visiting fellow at the german marshall fund of the united states and has worked on the russia ukraine policy planning portfolio at the us state department under the obama administration. thanks so much for taking the time to speak to us as the war drags on and russia failed to meet the gains that it's hoped for in the east. will that impact how serious moscow will be about negotiations? may i think at the moment, not serious at all about negotiations, and i think that will remain the case for the foreseeable future. they have not done enough militarily to coerce ukraine and ukraine is so much in this fight that they're not going to be making any confessions anytime soon. so i think diplomacy at the prospect at the moment, but it's different prospect. okay. well,
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ukraine is of course of suffering massive damage and some us and you lawmakers are now saying that a marshall plan type effort will be needed to rebuild. or we think a post conflict settlement taking shape here, even as russia continues its advance post towns like this is premature. i mean, this is where they did last for several years. so it's clear what that means, time wise at the moment, but there's such a grasp of support that there's certainly the will to begin the financial work necessary for ukraine's eventual reconstruction. and a big, a lot of policy says, sense to do that. now to start the planning now for when the moment comes and that reconstruction as possible. and are you expecting to see something on the scale of the marshall plan? will they, will there be that many resources put toward rebuilding ukraine? i think it's very possible because of the number of countries that have very serious concerns in the sense that they wish to invest in ukraine's future. this
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includes canada, united states, australia, new zealand, south korea, japan, and much of europe. all of the countries that are sanctioning russia, i think, really wish to see a reconstituted ukraine. and that's a very substantial part of the world economy. and this is all of course, toward further integrating ukraine in the western block. shortly after it was invaded by russia. ukraine applied for membership of the european union. now we've heard austrian chancellor alexander schellenberg today calling you enlargement a g o strategic instrument and he wants to create animal dough, but to be given fast access to parts of the common market. how feasible do you think that would be i think access to the common market is, is one thing. i mean, you've already made the strides in that direction with an association agreement with the european union. it is hard to say what it means to discuss membership for a country that in the midst of. busy war and their basic questions, will you membership include premier or not include basic questions that have to be
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answered. but i think this is really a kind of emotional statement that being made about europe's hope. are you paying integration at the moment and also in the coming years? and exactly how would it help in the current situation? i think it really gives you great as we center. give them a sense that there is something waiting for them at the end of the tunnel. there's a light at the end of the tunnel and that that light is, is europe. so even if the technical impractical details are very difficult to work out and even conceptualize at the present moment, it amounts to kind of european promise in the midst of a brutal war. that means a lot. well, the german chancellor, olaf schultz backs the session of a finland and sweden to nato. something that he repeated to those leaders of those countries today are the russian objections to that. with russian objections to arms deliveries to ukraine, completely irrelevant to western calculations at this point. well,
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this shouldn't be irrelevant. i mean, i think nato so many ways to defend europe from russia, russia, attitudes, and positions are relevant. but i don't think that there's anything that russia can do to stand in the way of the passion nato. you have support from the u. s. government, i think for most nato members days will have to be unanimous. but i don't think russia is able to inactive vito at any time on this, on this process. michael, can i wanna thank you so much for that analysis of the updates of the day. my percentage from the german marshall fund of the united states. thank you. battery. ah, ukrainian journalists have been risking their lives to report on what is happening on the ground in areas occupied by russian troops. their profession can put them in grave danger and organization in the western city of the viva, supporting local reporters to make sure that they can keep doing their vital work.
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so this is where ukranian journalist victor covalent go now lives. he has found refuge and the live media forum. so local scrutiny, sports it was workmans isn't, but i put my whole life into this backpack and i fled together with my family. we just with his wife and children, left ukraine after the family fled the russian occupation in their country south. they all started off from their hometown, bardon scanned the sea of on solve. victor. since the family had to pass 12 russian army checkpoints as a journalist, he was in grave danger each time it shows bookshop at 1st, i tried to find reasons to staying arousal, but 2 or 3 weeks into the war, i realized that for russians, journalists are of special interest. you hold on eastern co, early on. bad yonce, sol, large daily protests against the russian occupiers. this is one film secretly. oh,
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but now hardly any independent information is available from the town. usual journalists like victor cobra lincoln should now be able to work safely from the media forum and levine of the establishment is partly funded by foreign donations, as well as the aid organization reporters without borders. c, e o. all ha. middle vetch received a new delivery from brawn to day. i had boss about hellmouth and bullet proof vest . oh, yeah, absolutely. but i'm convinced that eliminating free speech was part of russia's plan for invading a crane from the very start is corklin yoke are unique. in levin, which is still relatively safe, victo covenant can finally take a deep breath. he's looking for a new job, which is difficult. russia's war is also an economic attack on press freedom.
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advertising revenue has plummeted. many are now trying to work for international media. a former brewery restaurant in live has been converted into an international media center, a meeting place for foreign and domestic journalists. victor coven, uncle must re orient himself. a tough re orientation as he hopes of the war will soon be over. well that was the day as ever the conversation continues on buying. you can find us on twitter at deleon. i'm claire richardson in berlin for me in the team working behind the scenes. thanks much for joining us with ah, with
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