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tv   The Heart of Brazil  Deutsche Welle  August 12, 2022 3:15am-4:01am CEST

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round his app reason, nuclear facility. the u. s. has warned that a potential nuclear disaster of fighting in the area continues at it for me after a short break, a special report on indigenous tribes in brazil. fighting to save the rainforest from illegal loggers, remember you can always find more news on our website around the clock. that's d, w dot com. you can follow us on twitter and instagram as well. at dw news, i'm all be at ease it for me and all the team here. thanks for watching the w. green. do you feel worried about the planet? me to on neil, host of the on the green fence post and so we, it's clear. we need to change. join me for
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a deep dive into the green transformation for me, for you, for the plant. mm hm. oh oh. oh, yeah, no. oh oh. oh oh oh oh.
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oh oh. oh oh, don't tell me what's the best approach for? i got the 1st fire. yes. then the 2nd about them, the cattle can come when i got my hand about it i. they packed the soil down. so you rotate the pastures quite a bit. said 2 more. fire stick to the bottles, preschool. would you re fi as gets you a good posture? he moves from you burned all the branches and the heavy logs are gone. of this used to build cow sheds and fences. i lived in $1.00. you had cost just $15000.00 rice to build a fence. you don't have to buy, would you just pay the workers and buy the material. then the program 1 dollar to get a nice piece of land on the cheap my boss, and for
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a while job that he's recorded, telephone conversations illustrate the forces at work and me, amazon, and how the land grabbers sidestepped the environmental agencies and legalize their ownership. obama, these land grabbers assume that whatever current rules are that will change which gassed tagged the fines for illegal activities prior to 2008 have been formerly wave to them, so they assume fines through 2014 will be waived to liberal midway. they say they're just clearing the forest in the name of progress. that's their argument and it's no secret. nay. no, i think it in. oh, what are you supposed to do? if you can't log legally? it's your property and you need to survive. i regret having acted outside the law, but i don't regret felling trees. there's nothing wrong with that. so if we did clear forests, brazil wouldn't take there. don't 2 boys like roland grubbers. no one here isn't one thing because we're farming public land. there's no authority around
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to tell me this is your last bill. i've been occupying a piece of land for 30 years. i think the lad, my farm, when i've been trying to register it for 20 years and no success goes to that makes me a land grab or any public prosecutor. it's the, i'm occupying public property, medical stuff info on got me to go to environmental. impact is a big problem. environmental laws are being violated and they're doing everything to keep it that way. the environmental agency, he bama, wanted to keep operating illegally, so they can keep finding us and freezing our operations. it gives them something to do single say, and they're going to be going to say we have 2 documents here from the environmental agency, $6000000.12 aware of it. ok to lee another. i'm coming to talk to about on wednesday 20 days on appeal. your lawyer
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has to do it the case and it's true, but it's about slave labor. and i'll take care of it in getting in on the way to pick up a tractor we'd had stopped and impounded earlier. the path to treat and you, we were coming and hid in the forest. you know, the officer noticed and pursued him. the suspect was armed and shot and killed the policeman with a hunting rifle out ah
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my bad name longing costs money if you need a lot of it to clear areas of around $10000.00 hector's. like here in nova progresso you bought it take serious logistics. hundreds of workers and tractors, and that comes at a price, and these people have the money. i bought a new thing with new federal gonna divide. i since the public prosecutor can't charge people for clearing the forest, they get accused of forming gangs or fraud things. no one can actually prove it. wow, hold gangs intervals. x is about logging before they charge us with something else . so you got that one to public prosecutor does whatever they please. i'm a political side of the hood here. my office is one of them is the biggest seller
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of land and property that you are every one knows that. why are there problems? because you try to handle it all yourself. if you like. we're the only ones doing this job. in the end, everyone will benefit that that will not there. i know it wants to get their hands dirty. go to a broker and see if he's got anything and then they won't. that's what i said, a some land with proper papers. cash in hand. can you give me that ego that got the recall? they bought it from us. they. she comes up babel home. we've received reports that several people with logging companies were active there. yes, we investigated those gangs and their criminal activity wasn't all of that included money laundering forgery, and tax evasion and is only $2.00 environmental destruction in michigan. the environmental aspect isn't the only element with a plot of land, and the amazon is much cheaper than in the south or southeast of the country. so people get greedy, local people, buy land and having
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a company gives them an appearance of legitimacy that you're talking about the documents. are there any? no way, not usually, only the new companies have contracts with the older ones. they have reports from the agricultural authority that did a legal program and other kinds of documents, like the environmental data register, which has the cadel farming thurman saw a wildfire best. lizzie, agricultural permit, boy, and the environmental permanent. but it depends on the agencies in his arms. and afterwards, you can apply for a property title, and then you just have to wait a bit for it to be issued to me, i am with
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the minimum may until i get eliza project there full to see it does have jogging loc elisa grungy, the fast age of a land graph can take place from a distance. he has some on the sat sat sites on a big plot of land in the state and rain forest. this is decides to occupy, but the rest has to be done locally, not but it is a fusion connected eliza key. l gala fall into some one has to hire workers and do the logging ally. and the area has to be guarded policy. i am at the one it can unfold in stages. top of the land has to be demarcated, it's and then it has to be defended. was a good thing, as is all to bring them in. sometimes the same plot of land will be claimed by various legal poison. all these can lead to violence does about us can obtain gay. at 1st glance, the land may seem empty locally the uh, there's actually a local community nearby. yeah. you think that leads to conflict, auto body live,
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or another land grampa might also be trying to claim the land that is keeping with it's no wonder that violence is rife in places where land is stolen. oh, it in the amazon violence lies the most concentrated where there's a lot of blogging coming and there's a close link between land grabbing deforestation and violence and the amazon, your latest award us? yeah, i was, i was lloyd didn't work is yeah. when it's just the attack us, we strike back the same way. if i that they come with clubs, knives or dogs, we fight back with the same methods and throw them out. no matter what size. so if i say, oh, you mean russians, this one, you know, that we've been fighting against land graphing here for 18 years. it's this all the people living here were born and raised here, just like that. great grandparents in yahoo was that's the problem with land grabbers. you see the audio they've taken over this whole area effort just don't you get like they came from queer bar through the jama shame,
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national park about the other side. they were markings everywhere, logs lying everywhere. everything was occupied by land grab as at a dog. the la you then the land crap isn't lawyers. don't care about anything or anyone in the in thing has been in game. ah, no, i'm a little not she's emma. yes. but i'm on with as you want to, we join forces with amanda, roku people to defend the tappa, jacques, and helped draw the boundaries a new. i'm a good thought a we share a common culture with the window. roku people you know, flooded the forest is on life blank. she we hunt fish about and plant potatoes and yeah, no, i think there's a difference between our traditional way of life other than that of the mando roku . como a budget jen? i'm a little i was
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it was jim asthma, this good morning fighters ahead of good morning senior show r as in team ill guy. this is a very important moment for us. and when do you want them to put them all? we have to stick together. the human and joint forces to defend the unique mandible land. every one of us should pitch in on the video god. because if we don't fight to stop up, we might lose it almost there or can raise your hand if you want to come along it quite a bit ala though, if i will ever them okay. by tomorrow, i'll come jose, a bargain m. i. who else? francisco wealth solem. huh. salma, lamar, if your income are going to give up in what they for, how many families live in this settlement? i saw a handful of people. it's not enough. i can never go back. and so they can go from the bottom when you got people should feel an obligation towards the community that this land wasn't handed over. it was conquered. and if we residents of the region
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do nothing will end up losing it. they might go out. oh my god, my bad, any psyche as it is, don't know. tina key thought it was. i suggested a few of you go door to door. she's been or sickle dolly matter and resonate. doesn't she? and asked them for how i was i keep asha f as in school need, you know, i had to put it on. we can take the po to her and ask them to help us gather he was gonna, hey, i'm gonna, if i didn't lease and they won't have any excuse each school, but with where senior louis, i think he's in the house over there. ms. m. as in bob dodge, hello,
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my friend is see if i'd like to explain to you what drawing the boundaries means asked and why it's so important that i know them. i think that it's important for us, for you to have your land secured in the future will you and just like us, i think you also have to fight for your lance. they think that they're your thief. god. again, that's m plus you're not or god impaired. we're being pressured by gold diggers and land grabbers invading our region back yet. right. is if you end up being displaced by land grabbers or the government. oh, poor things will get tricky here. up about take a diffuse. i like if not, sam are here only here. on weekends, we don't really know what's going on and escalate the rush. i should supporters of we need, you must empress is our house if, if you need us, then we'll help another ah, my sons like we're here to help and support them. i because we need them and they need us. i mean, it doesn't matter whose land it is, because it's being threat and somebody doing. we're going to lose our land and they
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will lose their smiles on the them. we live side by side. if okay, faith h ah no, no it is my them of is good evening everyone. what we want to talk about drawing the boundaries again with the other markets. so let's look at the map and see how to get to the mountain stream mop. and i will start a marketing the boundary. i got there. all one thing you see, i got a bit more. i recognized that a mock awesome. think they're fine. we have to go through the mountains and then follow the stream for about 2 kilometers. that's our starting point. well, he missed the microphone about him when we were drawing borders with a sorry, mobile region. we encountered miners and lockers. we told them we didn't want any conflict, and we were just drawing board, most of them, my father honest up they,
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i may want to give y'all gave we run into any one and talk to them. they won't respond. oh there why here. so i'm show the people moving in on our land are aware of al operation fusion. all thought is that both of them don't over the phone. i all said yes. so i got this. yeah, i think we should follow the stream in this direction than the path will go down onto the road just that will take us to the mountains. then we go down the road and follow the river. we'll get to the boundary. this white line here. that's where we'll start with news a a
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a if you find out a little. ok you got it. right or is your a with work your way to the red dog of it? we've covered 500 meters.
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lou with ah no, no. i came by boat and went to the meeting. i 1st didn't want to participate and i
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went back home and i didn't think but then the visitors because it got changed our minds. i is photo. nobody else wants to take part. i. we thought of food if we did it, they have to work next week, but after that we'll come back here. let's assume i'm much nobody, nobody knows. one of you broke down in the other jumping shoulders. i was a lot of boy mom. so most, thank you. here's the river. we're here and we'll work our way over. here are your best point. number 121 of those i'm willing didn't go to lower and more women are getting involved too. because the government isn't dealing with this. aggression not near as good as they have friday unless they've indexed. the women realised they have daughters soil and that's why they have to take part in the struggle. you
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feel the same, but they have to leave their children at home. and it's hard for women to take their children to protest. this being is a, if they get attacked with pepper spray, for instance, they have to run away with their children in their arms. all that makes it harder, of course, in my son baron, but they're not giving up. they're fighting for the future of their children there and grandchildren. and every one who's yet to be born with no partner get up with him. almost like he ma'am on the household. and this is our land, our home. and it's been destroyed. i feel we want a little cold. women are here with our leaders and our children's, and we want to tell the government that this is our home. i sent it back if our ancestors gave it to us. jackie gillis land is sacred to us. a shout on my neck, jo. last little that the government has destroyed every thing to you, but we're here to resist. and to show that we're both one little cool and women at
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the same time is so was maria was found bailey in the of by in li. only my mother is indigenous, not my father, but i wanted to be a true member of an indigenous people because i'm proud of my ancestry new thinking . you're thinking over there for you to let them be yoga. i'll have children one day to and i want them to live here and without the land grabbers log. gold digger was ended up here. then he's like we want them to leave again because they're also driving out the animal. we hunted my deities up by fest cassidy. beth, i go home with about yeah, the law and i don't want it easy. sorry guys. i'm stuck in a traffic jam in, sorry,
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so, and saw 16 pickups headed toward sunday, and 2 bands that got unloaded. and you know, i heard there are 60 environment agency pick ups on the way to put up with it was to stay here. 3, come with me and he's looking for changing frequencies on without, for like with this one. yes. that of their frequency. they're already talking a lot. a edwardo you read me. all the 38 you read me. i doubt you read me about. know you read me. who's there about? 06 vehicles just drove in to your street or roger that database simona 55, play a banjo. great bear with me
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here are you coming from on almost a farm cold? i don't know. it's my cousin a quite a far as a quite or a 5 kilometer cellphone. i spent quite a lot, a lot of your motorcycle here. we'll check that. i see it's for kilometers. get in and show us the webinar cause i did. i had the comments, i just got like epsilon, so i found a care. mm. it was let me see about $25000.00 areas are clear cut each year. what year? most of these areas are on public land and linked to illegal activities. boy, they usually involve land speculation, the formation of land, monopolies, and appropriation of public land. the lodging operation is just the 1st step will be a huge areas are legally occupied. he had him as an area of 30000 hector's belonging
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to just one person can yield tremendous profits while inflicting major damage on the rain forest too in law to bid his. but what if i could just stay up with them. what they say because about them is guy named cassini. i was fine several times for logging back. there wasn't enough to arrest him to the authorities charged him with tax evasion. they had to release them for lack of evidence. leaving forests isn't a crime because some people have been doing it since the dawn of humanity they call the wound them contains with i say that wasn't farmers over there in the front at the cow shed. and there's another building farther down pushes. so we don't have anything against you as an employee with these activities or legal pavilion
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i show is where you work. leave your motorcycle here and given turn left here. hey. as mother was your motorcycles? yes. if we burn the with
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i got up. why much did you get paid off a new $3000.00, right for filling trees per month? yes, i did. i bought an accountant to camp has been dismantled by may of this land belongs to indigenous people. no one's allowed to be here and we'll let you pack up and i just and then we're burning the rest and how about the fall and we'll take care of the tractor and about that, mike and why does he pembroke? well, let's get the tractor good about the game between a tractor is that very did it is up and by the plaza perspective, they knew they could get caught at any moment that they were listening in on us that you had. there was a radio in the tractor, you know, whether you that's why they were leaving as i am not for 2 weeks and wanted to had offered a lot. and then you got caught. yes. how much did you make of going out?
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and i think of me by the thing yet. we're still waiting to get paid out. right. they still have to pay me. i'm supposed to get 1600 ratio. they. i'm hoping ivanhoe lane eaten and cab keep them on and they don't need that. they have heard more working illegally on indigenous land, got hit on legally purchase land. i think the workers take big risk. yes, of the earn more. he to point to find out a new it's illegal. i didn't catch you, but the boss is compete high wages because their profits are here. my dear. thank you so we are on untouched on ditching this lab region. even the lumber here is extremely high quote. imagine that single angelina tree, such as in 10000 rye fight as will always be people doing this kind of work. they had to just post icbc in the local again, we know it's illegal to the country to write. so this is our livelihood vicki. in the thought, there's no other work here with home. so michael,
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good. how were we supposed to survive? if these jobs disappeared? because the environment ministries shots, everything down, like many people will starve and you won't be able to sell your house. so your land . everything will collapse all who we wouldn't fell trees if we didn't have to be without a high school diploma. you can't work anywhere anymore. you're out there. where should people like me work? who didn't go to high school that get the head? that's how it is here. i thought by alan with integrate barbara, they go on a date and then now with this them, we latest. we note down their details and statement. we need that because we intend to prosecute their employer, my data, who is operating a logging company i do. it's, i'm, of course, they're tractors aren't permitted here. for instance, this is indigenous land, you know, mark and if you, this tractors in such poor condition, it can't be moved over. if you can't remove the tractors and they put
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a risk to the environment, because they continue to be used to legally or we are allowed to destroy, thought, that's what we'll do. these are lean spark group. we did it. this plea is mechanized here because it's my mother in here, they're able to part with the environmental agency as frozen operations on my land . my entire property, or if anyone wants to, why 500 hector's of crosland has sell it for 2000000 ration younger. now i put half of that into another piece of land next door or a bit farther away and clear that will then they freeze operations and i to what's the point? less than 500 hector's 1200 to ask you to land anyway. bob elementary, it's a real industry land grabbing in areas of state and rain forest means the brazilian
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people are gradually being expropriate. neil, it's um and then there's the clear cutting me which land grab has used to solidify that illegal occupation. it's the worst thing that can happen with the public property is appropriated and the rain forest is caught down me and since it's all illegal that keeps away. honest investor, the sky that's good for land grab has been bad for brazil domain. but as years ago, shush li melanomas, in shackleton sergeant, is on the west official fines and flames for damages aren't enough. we have to respond quickly and forcefully. it is, it's the only way we can protect the fundamental rights of the brazilian people nowadays, and the punishment needs to be swift and commensurate to the clients you've worked
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with us. does this, a site has been in laws that so be a dog, doesn't, don't complex. they don't go by as soon as the environmental issue is very complex . i was just wondering about d. i'm going to play devil's advocate johnson, who can guarantee me the coming generation will approve of today's protection of the rain forest several. well, in other words, why do you miss dinosaurs on earth to day? you know, so i 5 to probably fall to mclean. sorry general, so dinosaurs, no numbers, no see, wasn't imagine if we stood up to protect them back then, then they might still be around today. who says the next generation would want to know or should i still saw them here for the month of august, yahoo! to give you, you know, so we owe money with a sob from what is on friday and something about the indigenous peoples belong to the past. but as aboriginal peoples belong to the past, more than one dish or more,
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but in the end, they might be the ones to survive. or rather, their modest and respectful way of life that regards humans as a small part of a larger ho. this lapse that way of life will be the only one to endure. but as yet before year it's conceivable that the survivors of the downfall of western civilization with its claims to universality. this will be these people who put the federal babs, their culture is our future, not our past religion in all those is and i, my wife always lives. we can learn so much from them and not the other way around, dissolves each rush was injecting from seducer. we believe we're civilizing them. dangerous, yet they ought to be civilizing us. of little dimension association, brownish and shadow, sensually my eyes. the indigenous peoples are of critical importance to brazil's
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identity no hash desa farmer did. there's one thing that sets asked resilience apart from those who are destroying our planet downloads or possibly in that thing allows us to imagine a different future for brazil ill foster. and that is that there are people still living in our country. james, who live intelligently yeoman mirror, finishing families just really tough. get everyone out there looking at us. look at how this is really strenuous, i think with nothing to eat. lime eating sugar instead of chris saw the fowler. mm hm. and i'm glad that they don't come ah,
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fair as you can see going back, you know, going, if we agreed the mrs. here at the border, but they're not here. he wanted to go home. i am, i were worried and want to head toward stuff. no, bobby, i got a thermostat isn't like you, bob get. i got that. i. it is like you, but i like want to look. you belong to the phone today from point 10, about 100 meters from here. it's another $385.00 made is to duty. so we're almost there, brian, to speak with a gun and she, well my, when it seems like i mean by 6, look, if we want to stop the deforestation of the amazon, we have to protect all the unused forest areas. but right now, as it will still accessible to land crap as one within the next 5 to 10 years,
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you busy reliable, they're mostly in the states of tata and amazon. amazon is in much of these areas the rain forest could be present. it is, for instance, in the form of nature is f o extract of reserves as a whole reserves for sustainable development. a little key got into you while you there are several categories of protection that could allow local people to make use of the land and help accelerate the process was to provide. so if we have to keep these lines from being privatized at our lab, but he said the privatization promotes deforestation, sustain has god up up. if this large stretch of land that is covered in rain forest would to be privatised. every owner would be permitted to clear 20 percent of their property. ah ah
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ah mm hm. ah, i met with i'm with that there been are studies banned but he's been waiting for this for
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a long time. we had a victory today and we're just getting started, but we hope to keep going and finish drawing the broaders, linkedin, write them in on the microphone enough with them. those you out, your children were crying. what if we don't make it with our mikey? we just got here from our didn't have if you see my family tell them i'm doing well . i skills over there that i thought those somewhere out of booth the cassava flowers you start la yesterday of the camp. like yes, i said he didn't have any for like, a new mom yet. i didn't you b o, we found a pretty trodden path there. got. we didn't see any one now, but we heard the sound of machines all day. don't you get the you? i bought about, but my dad only i i
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looked in a new pack from our mouth packing. none of the motorcycles had a license plate and black the trucks didn't either. it's all the legal you. it's all gotten worse under the current government and point out of this, you have been good, muddied, logging, you palm heart harvesting, fishing. there's a lot more of that than there used to be a law once a week in noise i eat when we see ourselves as guardians of the land and he keep up. so we're very concerned kids. these people are taking all of our resources and selling them in our stems, thus in that us both other preference yeah, go to his seat. i think he fees, we recently inspected the border of our lands to make our present spelt
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a bundle nod, and we found a lot of traces of intruders lands on his permit. he was caught a, keep it on file and through his mouth, especially people clearing the forest to make grazing, land out of etc. i got. so our order runs straight through an area being cleared a longer said they'd cut down a lot of trees there at the bottom, and they even wanted to make a deal with um, dedicated, they'll buy. but i said, i'm not here to make a deal. i guess she just didn't then it was yeah, yeah. you know, i don't know what about us under stuff that we've worked everything out. once we could at least take logs with she that won't cut down any more trees. let us take a long so my mother, how does that sound? is that a deal? is she should i just wanted to know or just make my fee? i didn't, oh, no, that's not how things work. we make the rules here. others may rule the roost and brazilian, but we decide here we miss out of bus. i'm mike,
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not 1 in the morning they started taking out their tractors and them love them. be our people, were there monitoring everything i did you for anthem? it's not easy dealing with the lawyers. she has a check with her by defending an area where, exposing ourselves to danger it is thereby and sometimes even risking our liason on his cheek or his could you eat too, isn't she me? i was scared. we were standing with cameras in front of our warriors, isabella, so if they'd attacked us, we would have been hidden 1st agency. so i was very afraid that she just did this before we stood up to them with that. and i know, and we want to jam 2 made by that engine for employment of incident. ah. by police gayety. that's why we're demanding the government draw up our borders. but unless we can protect our land vehicle up the how are we supposed to survive in the
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coming years? the how are the next generation i'm supposed to survive. somebody ah, ah, a warrior doesn't cry. you have to be strong. ah, i'm more brazilian than many others are. because this land is what made me we pulled up in. ah, ah, because he will be new. i'll be in the local bondage unless people are despised. not just because they occupy. she'll daily jo. blue. they're also hated for the
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wildness inside them, their connection to nature who if their color like molded bronze, a places, okay, flesh of warrior by precision with which there arrow meets their prey last year. but i says looping gesture that envelops the river be unless their pension to per caressing feathers and crafting head dresses, the lien there, they are hated for their silent walk of their agile move my god, and moving their noble heritage. need to do their bodies. when you do that reach out for the sunlight, castle indigenous people are hated for the sun. they are hated for the tree within . they are hated for their river was at the lead. they are hated for their connection to life will be and mean to they indigenous people, they only are hated by their enduring and how they
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