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a candidate has failed to win all. and the 1st ballad will assess what happens now is the fall, right? if the calls for pressure elections, the hello and terry martin, thanks for joining us. we begin here in germany, berkeley blake match has suffered a huge set back in his bid to become chancellor. after the 1st ballot by lawmakers and the german parliament, he failed to get a no vote to be elected as chancellor. that's despite his new coalition, having a slim majority match needed 316 votes, but got only 310 the ballots a secret. so we don't know how lawmakers voted, but in a test ballad this morning, he did have a majority party concert in the coming days. well here's how when it started
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present, usually a clock announced the outcome of the vote just a short while ago. the results of the vote. number of members, 630 votes, cast of 621 invalid ballots. one and 310 members voted yes, 307 voted no. and there were 3 extensions m. p. predict match has not achieve the required majority of at least $316.00 votes. in accordance with article 63 paragraph 2 of the constitution, he has not been elected chancellor of the federal republic of germany. those crossed right over to our political energy. make it a coaster. she's down at the parliament where the boat took place this morning. that left wavelength mounts not be coming, chance a michela. this is a huge shock. try to put this in context for us. what just happened
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and well, what happened is a very, in public and humiliation. and favey a, a for, for the place map to was pretty certain that he would gets the votes required to become tons that and then was exposed to someone who doesn't have his own political cam fully on his own side. and that is this talk to absolutely everyone i spoke to a lot of people who now even people who never wanted to reach matt to become tanza were solved by this outcome. nobody really expected that. and that leads one to also suspect that may be those individuals who chose not to vote for him and they appear to be from when within his own political count, because he didn't make as that majority needed, which he comfortably had at. maybe they even didn't know what impact they would have. maybe there was 11 or the other individual who so while with 12 votes,
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potential votes more than absolutely necessary. to get those 316, they could afford not to give him, essentially a 100 percentage of backing from his own political camp. but all of this is speculation and we can be fatty. so i've spoken to people involved in these proceedings and 99.9 percent so that we will not see a 2nd vote here today. but until everything is official, because this morning we were very sort that soon. these mats will get elected. we're going to hold out, so keep you updated. what happens? this is on chartered territory mikaela. this is never happened in postwar germany of i what easy everyone is, is wondering, you know, what the, what happened and what, what does this mean? why is it happened? and what does it mean? what sort of reactions are you hearing from, from people there at the parliament from members of parliament or, or other people that, that are there?
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well, the reaction kind of varies from glee of to people. honestly, concerned about the down is this is doing to germany's reputation as a force was debility. i just saw a while ago we spoke to elise vidal, the co lead of the far right alternative germany, a posse about her take on what happened and what conclusion she draws from that. let's just take a listen to that. a provider of equal civil. gotcha. this is miss vidal, how surprising is it for you? it's a big surprise for us. the swedish match was not elected, and the 1st round has told us, well, naturally this is a historic defeat for freezers, matches so damaged. now, by this or the 2 and the so called government coalition is one that has just been a move in from the very beginning. and the fact that maps can even get the support
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of his own people. what kind of government is going to be from the very beginning, who can be elect to the new so incredibly damaged light? is that really the sensible thing to do would be to take a step back and withdraw. it cannot become a chance left to this. no one will take him seriously to florida for the i. and this is the reason for the do to be pleased about not as tall. i mean, it damages the reputation of this country. we criticized it when the past coalition imploded, that they didn't work properly, that we missed so many parliamentary session weeks. the country is just declining economically. we've got the highest energy prices worldwide. i mean, what's happening here? oh, i saw the economic damage alone is enormous and we have to stop this. we need the decent politics for the well being of the country. and i seem to just it's new and quality. don't have to do the last way and coalition agreements that we have this p d as essentially kind of like some determine all of it,
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a party that to watch that was voted in by 16 people. i mean, the world seems to be made, the governor of the country voted completely differently it's, it's a fraud. it's a lecture of fraud. this was a call from the about that 9 buying me and the 1010 out. i've never experienced anyone breaking as many electrical promises. a swedish match did, and he has no character, no principles for just mounts, cannot become the chancellor of this country. and that's what the part of it proves today. and so you really believe this is just, it was something that you said it had to be. i mean, when you say it's, it's almost a voice from above. is that what you're saying? yes, i do. i believe there is a higher order or higher justice and this is what allows me to be serene, how the whole. so i have to say that even i today did not expect things to happen. and i think this is very clear sign. my goal is we do some math is to damage that we should leave it yet. there. many of those critics see him as damage because he
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worked together with the a f d to get some majority for the motion and platinum. and that's it. and he was criticized for that and a great deal, essentially by d t i haven't, which question was this not someone who could have spoken to earlier. i'm says not covered his mouth. absolutely not. i mean, he criticized does the opposite and he got very at home at home and he's the biggest i couldn't do electro fraud stir of all time. we cannot support him if the seed you has the idea to present a different sounds good and you have to cancel the chance of a candidate. then we will discuss that internally. and then also whether or not we would support them or not. but on the whole, we do not want an s p d c to u government. that's not what the electric voted for. if you look at non large functioning, but he's supposed to be vice chancellor and the finance minister. i mean, he has nothing in his cd that supports that he's never worked in his whole life. he
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hasn't got any idea about anything, hasn't been an anti fascist. okay. but i mean, you know, this is just not something that you can sell this country, people with no training. and they're supposed to set the rules of the country. so this is your assessment of things. what is the truth? but do you think there is a seed you in the chancellor candidate the deputy would support us as a full blameless city? well, this is the city used problem and it's a strategic problem. you know, they've gone into a left wing dead and we see the results. thank you, ms. white. so the co leader of the far right. if the party there at least bible, that's what uh, what she was saying to you earlier. mikayla um the far right after you must be said was just classified as a right wing extremist party by germany's domestic intelligence agency. for any of our viewers who may not have caught that, she said, just listening there a book she referred to politic mounts as an electoral fraudsters spoke of
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a higher justice. this is the co leader of the largest opposition party in parliament. what do we make about as well? i found a quite striking. this is the 1st time and i've spoken to him many times interviewed him many times that she made a reference to a higher force that is behind. and i find the similarity between this new rhetoric and the way a, the us present the tempest for training himself of all the it's striking. and we know that the ac is being actively backed by the trump administration, by several figures. the. and we also, so a lot of pushback and condemnation about the far right a, if the has now been labeled as extreme is by domestic intelligence, which says it's has gathers enough evidence to support that. but to keep based on that take on different types of durham and citizenship, they feel that muslims can never really be part of them and society. so that's
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somewhat of a side issue. but it is a rhetoric of a higher force is completely new. and i think it's something that we need to absolutely watch out for them as these events evolve and much further down the line . and at the same time, if she makes a couple of points, which will also strike the court with masses in the policy critics. and that as many have in a way not for given him for the poor election result of the concept of seed. you see, you see from, within his own time, the seed you see, you see lots of at 28.5 percent. the expectation was more like 30 plus, and there was a feeling that his decision to allow the fall right. if the party for the 1st time to deliver majority to the conservative in, in the parliament on a non binding motion that that was crossing a red line. so many feel strongly about that. and when at least vital cooled him a fluid. well, many people accuse of relief, mass of having broken his words on taking on new debt and she did indeed. now, um,
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right in penn, out a of it is an exemption from the debt break it, which isn't find in the german constitution as that for a lot of cash on the table. 500000000000 to spend on infrastructure at new ceiling . any more in theory on defense spending, so he would come into office was a, is his, a, his funds all lined out. and that's something that the past governments of broke a pos over having said all of that, now we're in this procedural moment. and here now, if they want, the 2nd votes, the seed you sees you and the social democrats needs the other parties to table. and i've heard from everyone i've spoken to that nobody would stand in the way. so, and at the same time, uh, we need to wait and see and it doesn't look like because of the seaview sees you on the system across the want to do this again today because then they would be
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obliged to follow up with another vote instantly if that one was to fail as well. so this is a hardware that they don't seem willing to take today. and the other option would be either tomorrow. then there's a public called a here thursday on friday. all eyes or on sleep least match. now mikayla, how much political damage has he suffered from this? of the look. it's a sap in the face if um the 2nd vote goes through smoothly. i'm so we will talk about this as a pickup. it really depends on how the, how the history is written from here. what is government fails to deliver? then he is this will be seen as the bad omen that foretold his failure. if he moves on from this, if he does become elected and he manages the time of the economy around and keep
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the father at a if the baby will be perceived as a hiccup on that bump and very long roads for, for the least mass to becoming dumb and tons that these kinds of stories are always written in hindsight, right now it is a made a low and this is clearly also something, a fluid mats. it will have to recover from what he has to do that foss. mikayla. thank you very much. archie political editor, me, came across now at the german window and with me in the studio is richard walker, a chief international editor. he's been following this, of course all along. ah, richard. what do we know about why this happened? and we know that the boat was, was anonymous right? thing in the part of it. so we can't, you know, we can't say who voted how. but what reasons might whoever voted against believe
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like mass from the in his own party and from within his coalition partner. why, how does this come about? yeah, so 1st what we should of course and is miss taylor just said that were in the realm of speculation. because this wasn't the secret ballot, as you said, and we don't know that wrong. you know, we cannot expect the people who, who failed to vote from ads from his own policy or from the social democrats, or come out and explain it. you know, they, they probably keeping their heads down right now. but so we're in the realm of speculation. i think that would be that there were 2 kind of potential categories of decision that may live behind. that one would be um, give him a message that his pallet is not affected. so kind of a warning shot for people either in the social democrats or the quit. oh, the conservatives who might not like aspects of his policy all the way he's going about things. i'm a social democrats that might be in terms of his migration policy. he's the way he deals with the a f d the far right partner. we've just been talking about the on the conservative side,
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it might be because they feel that he's made too many concessions to that would towards the so for democrats, well we had at least bible that the, the leader of the, of the saying that he's a left wing conservative, so that he's moved to fox and the left on things like public spending, you know, ratcheting up borrowing in germany, which has always been a politically testing area. so it could be that, that in either of those policies, people. so again, let's just send them a warning shot. you know, he's got enough folks to get over but, but we don't want him to feel that is completely plain say. so that's one category . you have the category could be members of those policies. we simply do not want this coalition. it could be members of the christian democratic conservatives who think it would be best to, for instance, to attempt to have a minority government which has been some discussion about in recent months the. but whether the conservatives could guffman from a minority position, it could be social democrats who think that it's just wrong for the social democrats to go into yet another of these, they've done many of these so called grand coalitions with the conservatives,
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which they feel is, is damaged, we quoted, so get on to like all speculation, but these are kind of potential scenarios. if it falls into the category of wanting shot, then we can expect match if there is a 2nd round to do better. and he's only 6, both sorts of, of what he needs. and so, so if it is a warning shop, we can probably expect him to get through a 2nd vote if and when it takes place. if it's people who really just simply do not want this coalition, then we really are a non to uncharted territory because that could suggest that he fails even the 2nd vote. that would probably be cotton's finance politically. although, constitutionally that can be repeated votes, it's unlikely that that he would survive that politically because it would be such a signal if it's an inability to, to unite these policies. so i think these are the scenarios that people are thinking about right now. german voters, other countries who trade with germany rely on germany within the various alliances
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are looking to germany and waiting for the next government to get in place so they can move forward on some major foreign policy issues. also, economic policies. what can they expect? what, what, what should it, what should we be expecting, richard, in terms of how this is going to unfold from here? what are the scenarios? so we have a period of limbo, and we don't know how long it's gonna take. um, tests are sold to the outgoing government. it's still officially um, but uh in office at least in a watching as they have not yet been relieved of office by the president, which would be the next step when the new government comes in. so what i felt if he was finding a holiday tomorrow, he's going to have to put that off because you know who basically that has to be a government. and so then there's a government in working capacity there remains in place. we'll see you for 2nd. if a 2nd round, a voting takes place with just math, if he gets through, if he gets through that, it could be tomorrow,
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it could be later in the week. if he gets through that, then at least then the new government comes into place. and then it can get down to business. um it will be damaged, but you know how much that damage when the toner state long term will depend on how it performs this we just have for miss shayla. um if for instance, if mat sales and the 2nd round then were really a non trusted territory. i mean the various conceivable scenarios uh, the conservative could put help with different candidates for thompson. um and see what kind of test of what does that count can? does it the other policies anybody can put up a, a potential candidates? that's why i'm likely to get elected or the president might think. all right, this is not working. we need to have fresh elections and if that happens, and of course, well, it's been 6 months since the, the last coalition broke up leading the way to,
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to those those last as of elections which took place earlier this year. if that were yes, another sense of elections and, you know, this political limbo non certainty would, would drag on even further. and i mean, this would raise even deeper questions about this debility with the political stability of germany. which is, you know, for decades been seen this one of the most stable countries politically and yet, and i think those are the kinds of stakes, the people who didn't, who didn't support. matt, will probably be thinking about right now. you know, do i want to get, do i dislike him enough to bring about that kind of potential crisis? which of the, um so you know, i'm so level, they'll be a fair amount of soul searching going on right now. but those are some of the scenarios and is certainly working for european partners in particular, who were really kind of raring to go with a new government here. and now thinking okay, is, is matt, so we thought he was high drama in the german parliament today. richard walker, a chief international editor. thank you. well,
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richard mentioned the president that would be fine about this time mile, and he has a role to play and all of this as well. our political correspondent, matthew role of matthew moore, is at schloss bellevue. that's the official office in residence of the german president, and that's where the leak mounts was expected to receive his official credentials as chancellor today. but things didn't turn out that way. matthew, this is a shock, obviously for, for all of us, you're following reactions there. what do you hear? it's a fight terry. i mean this very moment in time, according to the old schedule, if you take them out, should be in the room next door with who's gonna tie a cabinet and reasoning, eye glass, but that's not the case. and what we're hearing actually in the last few minutes, is that there's still hope here that will be held today. and they've been this president called this time out as health crisis talks with his personal stuff you
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and it's probably the office. he's also been in touch with and it goes in the in the m parties with the bonus tag. and what we're hearing is of a mix that will take place today. it requires the bucking of all the potters and have been destroyed, and there's no hope that that could happen. but as you see, the reaction is being one of the dumb fineman. people scratching the hedge of questions about what exactly that the, the pos ahead is indeed, and we do that and a full has to take place within the next 14 days. if that doesn't happen then. and frankly, at this time, uh, the pricing will stay at 10 am. but it's really just the, as we've, we've heard throughout and this is uncharted territory and people are just waiting to see what the political parties want to bring this back was not far from here. what the, if actually, what did you find they agree on after all, the talks that are going on at the moment, bought the situation here is still one that there's plenty of general sto here and they're still prepared and they're still expecting that it could potentially still
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happen today, the german president is head of the german state. he has largely ceremonial role, but today he has a very important role matthew, trying to figure out where things go from here. are we expecting any statements from present stein might have today? of the look? well, i'm hearing is that he will not make a statement unless a vote does not take place in the coming days. or if of a 2nd vote with a fee to feel that then he would weaken stephen. but the fact is, the one to rach off the drama on to make this even more of a crisis for his job is to set the tone is to, is to, to, to come down the, the, that to be and that the, the atmosphere in the mood in the country, and so is it, there's, there's a weariness, the bike by making a speech to premier truly that, that could actually have the opposite effect. well, the thing really is essentially that this is all written in the constitution. it's
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all regulated there in the rubric, and it's a, it's a case for the lawyers and the dx batch to, to puerto over the details and, and follow the rules because that, that's in the rubric. having said that, we know that a lot of is coming down to those negotiations between the parties as to whether or not you will have a 2nd vote today, tomorrow, or on friday, because there is a bank holiday. i'm here in germany on thursday, so will be on thursday, but it's it as we see it on chart, the territory and there are so many moving parts. i'm on a big question about whether or not that will happen by the move. and frank thought this time of the president is still prepared to, to give a 100 with the credentials and a point a neutrons lot today or tomorrow if necessary, all the time this week, for the moment, new ponds to give a speech, to try to, to address this constitutional crisis that is taking place. you, matthews. thank you very much. the w. as matthew more down at the saw spivey. thank you very much. well,
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let's get the reaction from brussels now our correspond at rosie bel child is standing by there. rosie, what are you hearing from your p and lawmakers? so far i've heard european lawmakers cold is a real shock and even a clap of thunder. no. let's be clear when it comes to official european governments. they're keeping their lips seal because this is seems a currently as a german domestic issue. but when you talk to diplomats and elected members of the european parliament, there we are seeing a lot of head scratching and indeed sharp. for example, the head of the centrist political group thinking they were being present valerie hire has been talking about the need for a strong on a vicious germany in order for the european union to move forward in any way. she said the merits had promised to prioritize your onto, gave us sort of durbin come back when it comes to european union policy, making things that was one of the key complaints that i heard over and over again
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for the source is to come up here in brussels over the last few years of the outgoing german administration, that there simply was enough clarity and stability in the german position. and we don't have a clear line from germany on things like ukraine support on things like how to deal with the us. all the things like relations with china. well, it's very hard for the european. you need to have its own positions. so i would say a very sharp intake of breath here in brussels here this morning that will likely not be anything like a sigh of relief until german lawmakers have done their job and decided what happens next. for the big bounce was planning to visit paris and warsaw. as is 1st foreign troops. as chancellor of course, he still may do that, it may soon be elected still. he was hoping to underline the importance of the political relationship between germany, france, and poland. are these plans thrown into disarray now or there's certainly sloan
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aiden to don't, it's hard to see right now. how would they could take place? but as you said, and as or other correspondence there, belinda have been pointing out. it's just so unclear at the moment where exactly the politics are headed on where exactly bedford merits will be headed. but one thing which was high on the agenda was to show the importance, particularly that partnership with the front is awesome. culture of buffalo, the franco german engine, these 2 big political heavy weights in the european union that are the driving force for what the european union is a boat. and what it does is that's been very much thrown into the, by the uncertainty in germany over the last few years and know even more so today, but also by francis own domestic political issues. and it was important to note here that while this particular situation is really on chart, the territory for germany, these kind of political uncertainties or democratic issues, a coalition breakups,
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etc, are not totally uncommon across the european union. we have a lot of parliamentary democracies here in europe with more that proportional voting systems that mean you tend to have a lot of different parties that have to work together as that can create a lot of political pickups. but it matters more when it happens in germany because of germany's weight that it brings into the routine you need us to your opinion is biggest economy. and that is something that will be waiting to see where whether or not freedom works will show up in paris as chancellor of course, very much still to be confirmed based on what happens domestically and berlin never mind and power and more so. and i would just add the politic match themself as a member of the european parliament at the beginning of his career. rosie beauchamp in brussels. thank you very much. i, it's you are watching the news coming july from berlin. just reminder of our breaking news from the german parliament for the lease match has failed to get enough boats and the 1st round from lawmakers in
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parliament to be approved as chancellor. despite his new coalition, having a slim majority, their mounts needed 300. 16 votes from parliamentarians, but only got 310 the ballot this morning was secret, so we don't know how lawmakers voted in a test ballot this morning. he did have the majority since the end of it majority. and it's the, this is the 1st time that the candidate has failed to win enough boats in the 1st round to be a voting for chancellor in parliament. in postwar history. consultations are now underway. have a 2nd vote which must take place within the next 14 days. will of course keep you tuned to do any updates on that story as they come in. but let's move on to some other news now is real says it has carried out airstrikes against
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what it calls, who the terrorist targets and humans ports. so do you put data on the red sea who the rebels released video showing a massive fire? what they said was a cement factory. at least one person was killed. the attack came after the ran back to these fired a missile into israel that struck near israel's main airport. intel would be meanwhile, the united nations has expressed alarm over a new is really planned to expand it's offensive in gaza. is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu says the operation will be quote, intensive, and announced the majority of gauze as population would also be relocated. however, is really defensive visual, say the operation will not be launched before us present. donald trump concludes his visit to the middle east next week. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu says that he and his security cabinet to launching an intensive operation in gaza. the chief of staff recommended this is the wife full.
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