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of the russian federation. watch on thursday june 26 at 17:45 program judicial control with tetyana shostrova on the espresso tv channel. the best european and polish experts. ukrainian diplomats, opinion leaders. poland went through the path to the eu 20 years ago and now shares its experience with us. european integration step by step. for people, for businesses, for the country. we will explain what is happening and help. prepare for changes, watch the new project european space with yuriy fizar on the espresso tv channel. every wednesday at 15:10. president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky and american president donald trump began a bilateral meeting on the sidelines of the nato summit in gaz. yes. today the president.

claimed that he would hold a meeting with volodymyr zelensky, and here is a publication of the bloomberg agency, i emphasize that this is not an official report, but the bloomberg agency, citing its own sources, reports that the president of the united states told nato allies that russia's war against ukraine is completely out of control and requires active action. wait a second, so our correspondent tetyana vysotska, our special correspondent of the tv channel in the european institutions, confirms that the meeting has begun. well, i now include in our preamble roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and.

intelligence, colonel of the security service of ukraine. i congratulate you, colonel, and a couple of days ago, ukrainians publicly celebrated and thanked our fighters from the alpha special unit, and i also congratulate you on our broadcast on this occasion. the holy and bright memory of the malfa fighter, who laid down his life for ukrainian independence. may he rest in peace with god. sincerely, thank you, and what, let's talk now about the situation with the russian-ukrainian war, which , according to president donald trump, has completely gotten out of control, i'm quoting bloomberg now, i repeat, this is not a direct quote from the american president, this is bloomberg. despite the obvious lack of enthusiasm for the meeting with president zelensky, which will take place today, trump stated at a closed. with nato leaders,

that it is necessary to take measures regarding ukraine, since the situation has completely gotten out of control, well, it is a question of how to interpret. these words may not be completely translated, but in your opinion, what should we expect given the american experience against iran and the iranian nuclear program. donald trump has shown that he has fangs. perhaps they did not bring the matter to the end. well, in principle, no one, including the kremlin, expected that the americans would raise the b-2, that the american strategic aviation would use deep bunkers bombs and will try everything... a way to solve this case, so what can we expect from the renewed trump? well, we've heard a lot of trump's statements, when he says that the situation is out of control, i'm not sure that from the very beginning it, he had some

control over the situation, we only saw that putin, using some of their personal relationships there, tried to, let's say... convince and deceive him, and the impression is that he succeeded, and trump thinks that he got it out of control. once again, he never controlled it, and putin did what he wanted. he himself, trying to somehow play along with trump, there, appointed a truce, he himself disrupted them, then he himself invited for negotiations, these negotiations were not negotiations, but he set some other ultimatums, so then you remember when the leaders of the european states also came with their ultimatums, there they waved their fingers at russia, there they said that here we are, like what, but nothing is happening, so the situation on the battlefield, on its territory is controlled by ukraine, on its territory, on that side

of the russian federation, no one else has much influence on anyone now, we see that even i say it again, those negotiations did not lead to anything, the war continued, and... continues not in one day, if not in 3 days, trump promised to end it, not in 100 days, nothing happened, but such weak statements that the situation got out of control, well, i say it again, because no one controlled them, as for the strikes on iran, well, look, it's one thing to bomb iran, in which the israelis, the entire air defense system, another thing is to present something. the russian federation, a nuclear country, these are completely different, different countries, and a different approach is needed, and i will say that even regarding their statements, you saw that there was an article on cnn,

which says that despite the fact that nuclear facilities were bombed, that they were not completely destroyed, and we can just look at the example of ukraine, uh... that there was a one-day or two-day bombing by united states aircraft, they dropped some depth charges there some objects, but let 's remember that at first , russia is launching a full-scale invasion , including on the energy, just on the energy infrastructure of ukraine , it strikes every day, only at the moment somewhere... last year, i'm not talking about the current ones, we were hit somewhere, well, spent by the russians, more than 60 thousand strikes were made only with ballistic and cruise missiles, i think that already somewhere more than 50,000 drones of the mine type have been launched over ukraine,

well, look, our energy system is standing, we are all with light, yes somewhere there are some, let's say there were failures, but now our infrastructure. is not destroyed, it's just to compare what happened in iran, so i think that in order to destroy a country like iran, you need much more missiles, and you need more bombs, more raids, so these are more demonstrative strikes that showed iran that if you continue to develop your program, either stop it, or we will continue, well, we see that iran is making decisions there now, so to say... that this is direct victory is impossible, this is a hint, and they struck at the moment when, i think, uh, they realized that russia would not support, here you know, here is more of a blow to the russian federation, just with these blows to iran, and after that it is very

important to see what moves will be next, why, because once again the whole world saw that alliances with the russian federation are just m... paper, if they are signed, because russia does not stand up for anyone, when more, when more powerful countries enter the process. we can this is to look at the examples in armenia, syria, and now iran, and we can find many more examples where the russians simply abandon their allies when they enter a war with larger countries that have the support of either western states or states such as turkey, which are also regional leaders. this is a strong blow, another one for the russian federation, and in relation to... and iran, which is also a state,

let's say, which is tyrannical, yes , led by a tyrant, which are, which are simply similar in relation to russia. system of state governance, but russia can only take something from countries, as it takes from north korea, as it takes from iran or other countries, when it needs something, it takes it, as soon as it smells, sorry, fried, then russia runs away, washes its hands and can only somewhere in won, uh, tell about the fact that they condemn actions against a sovereign state at a time when they themselves are waging an aggressive war against us, here the key story is whether they surrender their allies, sell them, or exchange them, yes, well, at one time it was quite popular conspiracy theory that butsimba, well, i emphasize. conspiracy theory that putin wanted to trade ukraine for iran in

his contacts with ours with our enemy. well, but, well, it's far from a fact that it was like that, but i would ask you to tell us what we can expect from the enemy now. yes, the enemy is increasing strikes on cities. they regularly kill ukrainians using drones, combined drone-missile strikes, yes. and ballistics, yes, and information has come that russia has now increased, increased the production of ballistic missiles of the iskander type, accordingly, we understand that it will be very difficult in the summer, so i don't dare to talk about the medium-term autumn perspective right now, well, for now we have july, august ahead of us , that's your feeling, taking into account the one that the russians have now taken, that is, they are starting to massively strike at

a single settlement, trying to exhaust the anti-aircraft defense, somehow, well, if this is to be very vulgarized, do they have any additional vision and additional options when we are talking about such strikes? yes, russia, it has increased the number of drones, i will say this, but they do not have the opportunity to carry out strikes there every day with about 500 drones, as they were, for this they need to increase there for about three or four days, and sometimes up to a week, to carry out such massive strikes, that is , they do not have the release there yet, as someone said, i saw 500 there somewhere per day, no, it is much less, but for example in a week or a little less than a week they can collect such a number, and we see that they give some small attacks there every day or two. on there 20-30, and then they make massive strikes, they have already understood that

small attacks are not effective, you remember how it was before that the russians tried to send drones to 10 cities or several locations, and their latest tactic, they understood that this is not effective, they take 500 drones there, 300 drones, 200 drones and just send them practically to one... to one or two cities so that the first ones go, they weaken the air defense, or detect the air defense, and then the enemy either strikes, well, or already drones, when the air defense is exhausted, they can reach the targets, well, or even if they get lost, they can still, well, cause damage, fall somewhere, including - well, there into another target, but it will still be in the territory of the city, if, if it is a large city, if it has already flown into the perimeter, so the russians have developed such tactics, regarding ballistic missiles, they also have them, there are a small number there,

well, not by much, they have directly increased them, but they have these capabilities and, unfortunately, the sanctions that are in place now allow the russians and continue to increase the volumes, including ballistic missiles, well, here we just need to strengthen air defense, regarding anti-shahid defense, now we are all working, our private and state enterprises are working, this is regarding interceptor drones, because well, this is the cheapest and very effective way, plus there was a statement that... that the british are transferring to us about 350 missiles, air-to-air there, short-range, which are now converted to ground, air, and ground installations, and they should be quite effective in shooting down, including russian ones shahedi, i think that this will be to cover such

the most important areas, and all this was transferred according to the words of... dances at the expense of frozen russian assets, you know, it is not only important that the missiles were transferred, but also at what expense it was done, once again, this is such a beginning that this is transferred at the expense of russian assets that are stored there in britain or in other countries, and i think that this will be a worthy example for all countries to help us, at the expense of frozen russian assets federation. who started this aggressive war. yes, well, information has come from the hague that the conversation between the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky and the president of the united states donald trump has ended. the conversation lasted about 50 minutes. we will wait for additional messages. now i am in touch with roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence,

colonel of the security service of ukraine. terrorist war. colonel, right? well, a few days ago , information was made public about the preparation of an assassination attempt, another assassination attempt on the president of ukraine, information appeared that an assassination attempt was being prepared, a second assassination attempt on gordon and so on and so forth, and also information is coming that the enemy is taking ukrainian citizens, yes, well, they are transferring certain mined things, yes, there may be parcels, there may be a scooter with a directed... explosive strike, what do we have now with this terrorist war, how large-scale can it be? well, here you need to understand, first of all, for example, an assassination attempt on the president or an assassination attempt on some statesman or public

figure, it's not a question of some representatives of the russian special services sitting there yesterday. and then they decided that tomorrow we will eliminate the president or the head of the security service or someone else, these are units that are constantly engaged in this, they are just waiting for the right time, they are there monitoring their movements, they are monitoring their surroundings, they are, this is the constant permanent work of the russian special services in order to find there is no weakness in our security, there or defense, in order to implement this. it is not there, it is, let's say, this is how we prepared operation web there for a year and a half, yes constantly, that's how they prepare, but they are looking for places, they hire real ukrainians, sometimes even posing as representatives of the security service of ukraine, the national police or other defense forces, people who do not understand, start

working with them, let's say, and causing harm and... you see that i am interrupting, well, a very important point, well, we understand what can be some, i don't know, gullible, young, not very well-educated guy or girl, and so-and-so comes up to him , pulls out a fake x and starts, so to speak, playing tricks on people, telling them about all sorts of things, and then says, all you need to do, my friend, is organize a delivery from point a to point b and so on and so on, but this is all done by showing people their ids, what should people do in such a situation, how to convince them that they are not becoming a victim of a game of it's dark, the security service doesn't approach anyone, it doesn't show the xiva and doesn't, let's say, doesn't ask someone to transfer something from point a to point b.

if there are such requests, you need to go either to the security service or to the national police and say without... average, what is happening, believe me, when the security service works, everything is done there officially, it's not just on the xiva's show, and it doesn't just take citizens and force them to do something there, so i'm saying once again that there, if someone introduces themselves, if someone comes out there on a well as a rule, you know, when they recruit like that , what you're talking about, no one comes up and shows them to the people, there's like... as a rule, they find people somewhere, either on social networks or in telegram messengers, and start communicating with people there somehow, go out and attract them. let's say , they uh, to their side, uh, then, uh, they, well, they recruit them, give them some money, set

them some tasks that are so easy that they can complete them, and they ideologically wash them there, because there are different people, for example, there are agents, what kind of, what kind of they are, what kind of ideologically they are still waiting for the russians, those are easier, but there are those who are simply deceived even by the fact that you will serve the country, we are the security service, so you need to be very careful here, i 'm saying that as a rule the security service there does not ask anyone to do anything through telegrams, through messengers, so here it is necessary, if there are such appeals, if they see them there, then you need to immediately contact the law enforcement agencies and report it, well, and you have to understand that if they ask you to take something somewhere, and especially to plant somewhere, but how about this story , the last one in kharkiv, when she was 19... uh, the girl made the bomb herself, she understood what she was doing, when they told her to go buy saltpeter there, there another acid, there, i won't

name all the ingredients, uh, and how to mix it all, mobile phones, well, i also have to understand what it is, and then they said to put it in the scooter, well, the person understood that it was on the territory of ukraine, that ukrainian citizens were walking here, and then she said that she didn't know, that's why it very dangerous, and now this person will be in prison for life and took the life of our serviceman, and well , i say that this must be taken very seriously, and because the russians know how to tell, recruit, they have serious psychologists working for them, and this must be kept in mind, thank you, colonel, for this warning, well , roman kost was in touch with me. colonel of the security service of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, they talked about everything that is most important,

well , the meeting between president donald trump and ukrainian leader volodymyr zelensky has ended, the meeting lasted about 50 minutes, so there are no results of this meeting yet, at least in the public sphere. and now, now, now, wait a second, literally a second, it lasted about 50 minutes, there is no other information, and an important signal from british prime minister keir starmer, he believes that it is worth putting the russian dictator at the table for negotiations on a ceasefire. yes, i quote now starmer, now it's time to insist again that putin be put on the negotiating table for an unconditional ceasefire, yes, well, but for this you need to apply some additional, as i understand it, levers of influence on putin.

well, now president trump has demonstrated that america has strategic aviation, and it performs military tasks and does it quite brilliantly. well, the results of the poll are already here. thank you all for your activity. yes, i'm waiting now. i'm waiting, waiting, waiting for the results of the poll, so we were talking about whether the meeting between president trump and president zelensky can bring peace to ukraine, yes, no, or your version in the comments, yes, i'm waiting for the results, will there be results, well, i hope so. so 22% believe that yes, the meeting between trump and zelensky can bring peace to ukraine,

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