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abby: kill those abs. [laughter] ♪ ♪ ♪ sandra: good morning, congressional probes over russian election heating up. is the new republican plan on the way. hello, everyone, i'm sandra smith in for maria bartiromo and this is sunday morning futures. the senate's investigation into moscow and potential ties to the trump campaign. will mike flynn get immunity to testify? what about the president's claims that this is a witch hunt? newt gringrich and the fight over obamacare is not over but what is the freedom caucus
saying, we will talk one of the members. president trump dead tough on trade. commerce secretary wilbur ross joins us onset as we look ahead on sunday morning futures. this could be a huge week in investigation of russia and potential ties to president trump's campaign for the white house as soon as tomorrow. the senate intelligence committee could start interviewing people behind closed doors an big questions are stirring over former security adviser michael flynn and potential testimony in the matter. he reportedly wants immunity but so far that has not happened all of this has mr. trump takes to twit tore slam the news media for coverage continue to go call the story, quote, a total scam. i'm joined now by newt gringrich, former speaker of the house and a fox news
contributor, speaker, thanks for joining us this morning. >> glad to be with you. sandra: the president has taken to twitter on this and he has called this a total scam. is that something you agree with? >> yeah, i think in terms of the whole question of the trump administration it's an absurd story, but i think it raises two other questions. one is was the obama white house deliberately leaking which would be a felony, who was doing it, they've committed -- these are crimes and i think that's a key part of this and the other is, i think we should know what the russians have been up to but frankly that involves the podesta brothers, one of whom is a registered agent for russian bank and all the different things that peter wrote about in his book on clinton cash and it's ironic that all of the real evidence of real money and real influence buying by the russians relates to democrats, there's no evidence that anybody was being
purchased on the republican side yet the committees for reasons beyond my understanding is narrowly defining what this investigation and the degree to which the u.s. is penetrated by efforts to corrupt our society and purchase influence. sandra: you heard that time and time again during the white house press briefings this week from sean spicer. he keeps saying that the media is obsessed with the process and not the substance here. that continues to be the white house narrative. i want to show you exactly what he wrote in the tweet, the president, no path to victory to trump, that's now pushing the phoney russia story, a total scam. why do you think the media is in such a frenzy over this? >> i don't think they're over in a frepsy over this. i think they are in the frenzy. this is the latest manifestation of the frenzy.
so promptly without checking with anybody, sent out a note that trump had taken martin luther king's statute out of the oval office which was repeatedly 3,000 different sources according to kellyanne conway. what you have is a left-wing media starting with the times, new york times and washington post are the big networks, they are so far to the left they are in a frenzy over trump having one. this is the latest manifestation, but you're going to see them stay this way, i think, all the way through. they are so frightened that their world is going to be taken apart, which it is. they are watching deregulation, they are watching a conservative supreme court justice, they're watching a president who is not afraid to take them on and i think it just increases the panic and the frenzy of the news media. >> speaker, the intelligence community has concluded that russia did, indeed, 2016 election and the conspiracy
theories that are out there, the speculation out there is from the mainstream media you'll see that donald trump was involved in the campaign and colluded with them somehow on the election and absolutely no proof of that. but is it reasonable to say at this point, speaker, that there are a lot of outstanding questions surrounding this and investigations are certainly needed? >> look, the russians believe in a model that we are going to have to figure out how to deal with which is called hybrid warfare, information operations, bribing people, it's a whole range of things. they are doing it right now in ukraine and some of the baltic states and they do it here and in europe. we are going to have to figure out how to do it. that's why i feel much better if the intelligence committees took a deep breaths, stood back and we are going to look at everything involving russian efforts and russia is the biggest one to subvert american society. president obama himself said
last year, of course, they're doing it. they always tried to do it. they id in the soviet days and she shrugged it off. there's no question that russian has information operations, spending large amounts of money, they have a variety of things going on, none of which particularly related to donald trump, and frankly in the past may have helped democrats far more than republicans, but we the american people deserve to have the congress get to the bottom across the whole issue of efforts by russia to influence and undermine american lives. sandra: do you think that an independent investigation is needed or should the senate take the lead on this? >> yeah, form -- attorney general did a great job on another network when they talked about independent counsel, show me the crime. there is no crime here. i don't know what the crime would be. and zero question about any kind of crime by the trump people. i think that the more you look at this, the more you realize this is hysteria in the news
media, by the way, deliberately ignoring director of national intelligence clapper when he says there was no collusion, deliberately ignoring james comey when he says there was no collusion and we've had pretty definitive statements that nobody in the trump campaign colluded with the russians. sandra:let talk about michael flynn, former national security adviser, he was fired from the administration for not disclosing conversations with at least one russian official. he is now asking for immunity in exchange for testifying on the russian probes. president trump backed his request this week saying he should ask for immunity, this is a witch hunt. do you agree with that? >> absolutely. i watched an independent counsel destroy the reputation of scooter when he was dick cheney's chief of staff. the independent counsel knew that the person he was looking for was, in fact, in the state department, knew exactly who it was, told the person to keep their mouth shut and went after scooter in an effort to
intimidate him into destroying cheney. in the process that independent counsel locked up a new york times reporter for 85 days to force her to give her what she has said in the book since then was false testimony, now, i would say -- my advice to a nonlawyer like somebody like flynn or anybody in the white house, if you don't get a grant of immunity, plead the fourth, you're going to run the risk that the house committee, the senate committee, the fbi are all going to look at your testimony, then they're going to look at other's people testimony and then come back not because you did anything wrong but because you misremembered something which they'll character ice as perjury or fail to remember a certain document which they'll characterize as obstruction of justice. this is not a game. people's lives have been destroyed by these kind of antics and for self-interest general flynn has won four bronze medals in combat, for
pete sake. he's been attacked by people who don't have a clue what it is like to defend america and he should absolutely demand that he get immunity before he gets a word. sandra: devin nunes a popular conversation this week on the left is that he should step down. it's not possible for him to conduct a fair investigation as he heads up the house intelligence committee for looking at those documents in the white house, disclosing the findings to the president before taking it directly to the committee. should he excuse himself? >> look, adam schiff is his ranking democratic member, is fully totally partisan, this is a partisan fight particularly in the house and, of course, if i was a democrat i would say step down, he's smart and effective and if i were nunes i would ignore them and cheerfully keep cheering. sandra: former speaker of the house newt gringrich, thank you for joining us. >> glad to do it.
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>> you can take it to the bank. president trump is never going to stop fighting to keep the promises he made to the american people and we will make america great again. we will repeal and replace obamacare and give the american people the world-class health care they deserve. sandra: that was a adamant vice president mike pence telling crowd in ohio that the fight to scrap obamacare, quote, ain't over yet. this morning president trump tweeting this. anybody specially fake news
media who thinks that repeal and replace of obamacare is dead does not know the love and strength in our party, the republican party. and talks on repealing and replacing obamacare are and have been going on and will continue until such time as a deal is hopefully struck, end quote. the house freedom caucus will be crucial to any new bill. group of conservative lawmakers help doom the gop bill before it even came up for a vote, joining me now a member of the freedom caucus congressman louis gomer of texas. thank you for being here, congressman. >> certainly always good to be with you, thank you. sandra: one that was adamantly oppose to gop health care bill. first, can you tell us why? >> well, first of all, it feels a great deal like the 2008 wall street bail-out when we had immense pressure on us. you have to pass this. and it sounds like a lot like in
president h.w. bush's administration. it's a little bitty tax increase, don't worry about it. we got to get this done. that same kind of mentality, when this bill gets actually more power to health and human resources, i totally trust tom price. but this is like the w. bush administration, if you're a patriot you will give us this extra power to snoop on people and maybe some americans, give us this power, we won't abuse it. we gave so much extra power that the obama administration has been able to use right and left. when people find out if this passes as it is, people find out their rates go up, number two, this was not a repeal, it gave government more power -- sandra: congressman, you had an
opportunity -- you had an opportunity to meet with the president, right? >> yeah, we -- sandra: what was the conversation and what came out of that? >> we, number one, we had to do something to drive the costs down. people are going to be outraged if they find out it's going up and we were demanding, we got to do some things to bring down prices, people can't stand this and when they see that -- oh, and the president agreed with us twice and each time prebus and ryan said, no, no, you can't do that, he wanted to make a deal, he was ready to make a deal and we were negotiating with -- with paul, with kevin mccarthy right up through tuesday and all of a sudden they had a meeting and they decided we are so close to having the number we need, let's go to war, get the president to
help us go to war against the people that defended the president when ryan and those guys said abandon him. sandra: this is what he tweeted this week that started the whole conversation about the freedom caucus and the president willing to -- >> i saw it, i saw it. sandra: he tweeted this, the freedom caucus will hurt the entire republican agenda if they don't get on the team and fast. he said we must fight them and dems in 2018. you say you saw it, what was your reaction? >> i heard the same thing in the wall street bail-out and a bad president mccain would have win he had a chance if he stood his ground. if this bill passes, the president's administration would be defined for the next four years as a fraud, as they promised repeal and they gave
more power to the government and it's costing us more, it is going to destroy his administration but it's a two for four the establishment that stood by the president and -- sandra: all right, what does it look like, the freedom caucus working with the president moving forward and calling out members of the caucus by name starting with justin amash, he said justin amash is a big liability, defeat him in primary . congressman, i would ask you, tax reform is another priority for this administration. what does it look like -- >> it's a priority for all of us. >> well, it would a disastrous tax bill if he weakens the conservatives that would make it
a good bill, so he's taking advice from priebus who is establish rent to the core and if it keeps up, he is going to get hurt the way establishment people actually hurt reagan, the only time reagan succeeded was when he didn't listen to the establishment folks like priebus is today and actually followed his own instinct, but i'm telling you, the president's administration will either succeed or fail over the next 30 days. he can work with people that got him there that defended him when others like ryan and the establishment were running scared or he can work with us to help him fulfill his promises, but this bill does not -- it doesn't satisfy any of the promises that we made. it's going to be bad. it's really going to be a disaster. sandra: we we wanted to get your take. by the way that was dan who sent out the tweet on behalf of the president, it was great to get your take on things this
morning, good to have you, sir. >> thank you so much. sandra: all right, well, the stock market, it has been booming, if you haven't noticed, but how long will the surge last? one of the world's leading investors weighs in on the state of the economy and where he thinks markets are heading next, as we look ahead on sunday morning futures careful joe, they've got you outnumbered.
thank you so much for that down home welcome. show me female vocalist of the year. thank you so much. thank you so much acm's, i appreciate it. show me acm best moments. i could never have wished for, asked for and dreamt of anything more than this. catch your favorite moments from the acm awards and an exclusive encore performance by kelsea ballerini following the show on xfinity x1. the acm awards. live on sunday, april 2nd 8/7 central on cbs. sandra: since election day the stock market has been breaking records and hitting all-time highs while president trump has promised to roll back regulations and taxes on companies. maria bartiromo sat down with billionaire real estate investor sam zell to get he is take. maria: good to see you, sam, thanks for joining us. how is the president doing? we are talking so much about the
pushback from the left and the president trying to implement policies. from your standpoint as a business person, how is he doing? >> i think he's creating a lot of hope. i think that the last eight years has been a period of lack of confidence by the business community in the political leadership of our country and i think the result has been failure to make commitments and failure to take risks, corporate america has more cash today and balance sheet at any time in history. maria: yeah, because businesses have been sitting on cash for the last eight years unwilling to make investment or hirer workers. >> how do you make commitments when you don't know what tomorrow is going loob like. maria: largely because of the regulations that have been put in place? >> well, the regulatory burden has been just unbelievable, i mean, i know we are a small
player in the regulation world and cost of compliance has gone up five times in the last four years. maria: that will dictate behavior in terms of how you allocate capital. look at all your businesses. are they still hoping for loosening up of the regulatory environment? >> i think that the biggest opportunity that trump has is to create stimulus by loosening up the regulatory environment which by definition means creating stimulus without creating debt to pay for it. maria: yeah, that's the issue. he needs to have revenue raised as well. when you look at the tax plan that he's talking about, 15% corporate rate potentially or 20% corporate rate as well as lowering taxes, getting an incentive for companies to take that $2 trillion overseas and bring that back, will that work,
would that dictate behavior where companies will say, okay, my earnings are going to be up because of lower corporate tax rate bs, will higher new workers, i will invest? >> i think the fact that the president of the united states has made made prioritization of job in the united states is the number one issue almost by definition means that it will result in positive impact. maria: so you think the economy will get better in the coming years? >> i think the economy opportunities to get better are significant. maria: you have been looking at the merging markets, are people finally warming up to merging markets? >> they got very hot and then very cold. maria: very cold. >> my history has always been to be in an investor and so a lot of personalling marketing have been very cold look attractive to me right now. maria: because valuations are
right now? >> particularly brazil. maria: you invested a lot in brazil. what are you doing in brazil? >> well, invested in the largest parking operator in the country. maria: that's right. >> that was done at a time when nobody was interested in brazil, so hopefully we got a god deal. maria: let me go on the other side of the coin and ask you about the u.s. because the valuations are way up in the u.s. and you've always been so smart in terms of timing out this market, are you a seller because of the prices where they are in the u.s.? >> well, i think that, you know, real estate market has been extraordinarily powerful for quite sometime and it's very slowly but steadily improved since the bottom of the recession. what we haven't had during that period of time is significant news supply. we are now dealing with significant new supply in
multifamily and and the good news is demand is still there. if that's the case, then oversupply will be absorbed and we will go forward. maria: let me ask you before you go, attorney general jeff sessions talking about sanctuary cities, look, you don't want to to follow the law, is that the right move? what's your take on immigration and sanctuary cities right now? >> well, i've always been a big fan of legal, fair immigration. i think immigration is what this country was built on. i think the future of our country is depending on continuing to be the draw from -- for committed people all over the world at the same time i think we have to have law that is are followed, so i think the concept of sanctuary cities leaves a lot to be desired. maria: great to have you on the program. >> pleasure.
maria: thank you so much sam zell. sandra: president trump taking executive action on trade. what does this mean for the future of deals like nafta? commerce secretary wilbur ross will join us in studio next as we look ahead on sunday mornings t can actually hold your business back? say goodbye to slow downloads, slow backups, slow everything. comcast business offers blazing fast and reliable internet that's over 6 times faster than slow internet from the phone company. say hello to internet speeds up to 250 mbps. and add phone and tv for only $34.90 more a month. call today. comcast business. built for business.
sandra: one of president trump's signature issues during the campaign was trade and intense criticism like deals like nafta that he insists are bad for american workers. on friday the president signed two executive orders intend today crack down on trade abuses and identify the causes of the u.s. trade deficit. all this just a week before mr. trump host the president of china, a country he blames for many of america's trade problems. the man who helped craft executive order commerce secretary wilbur ross who joins us live in the studio. good to see you. i feel like when you sat down i kind of wanted to know how are things going on in the white house because i've known you so much -- for so many years. >> sure. it's still an exciting thing and makes your heart pump a little faster.
sandra: we are talking about the two executive orders that the president signed this week and you obviously had a hand in crafting these, what was the process like? >> well, the process is straightforward. we decide on the objective and clear it with white house policy people and counsel to make sure it conforms because there has been tendency for people to litigate executive orders. sandra: between 2001 and 2016, this was shared by the white house sean spicer this week, $2.8 billion in import taxes were uncollected from companies in 40 countries. one of the executive orders targets just that? >> absolutely. what had hap very clever importers who are beating the laws in a lot of ways set up shell companies, those do technical importing and levy a fine there's no financially responsible party there.
so this will call for a process of bonding or putting up credit or cash to make sure that when we levy on we collect it. sandra: second executive order calls on commerce department which you had and u.s. trade representatives to report to identify every possible u.s. trade deficit. >> right. there's never been a systematic appropriation country by country and major product by major product and in some cases t innocent, for example, we import some oil because we don't produce enough for our own -- sandra: for now. >> for the moment. you can't blame anybody for that but there's a lot that's due to cheating, there's a lot that's due to dumping, there's a lot to do with subsidies that are illegal and a lot of things that are not inherent in free trade. sandra: is having a trade
deficit a bad thing? >> well, i think so. think about it this way. americans would consume about the same amount of product whether they were made here or overseas. if they're made here, it creates american jobs. if they're immediate overseas, it creates jobs somewhere else. sandra: as far as the future of nafta, what does that look like? >> well, i think there is a future for nafta but as the president explained to me if we do make a new three-apartheid spelling should be an extra f, north american fair free trade agreement. sandra: what happens at that meeting, what's discussed? >> a lot of things discussed. obviously president xi lives in a very tough neighborhood, people like north korea so that
would be a big topic, cooperation on other diplomatic things certainly will be a big topic and so will trade and economic policy. sandra: i believe this is you that said this, this marks the beginning of the totally new chapter of the american trade relationship with our partners overseas. is everything that we are discussing right now, is the president fulfilling his campaign promises because trade was such a trademark of his campaign? >> well, the american public and the american business community for sure thinks he is. stock market is up something like 13%, business confidence is way up, consumer confidence is way up and all the polls are showing that while a lot of the media may not approve and certainly some of the democrats -- sandra: they don't even mention it, right, mr. secretary? even broader gain of the
american stock market up 11% since election day. the administration has been touting increase in jobs, consumer confidence, the highest in year 2000. you don't hear a lot of conversation about that. however, i will ask you this, this has been based largely on expectation and the business community so far likes what they are seeing on trade, on business, on rolling back regulations, on talks of tax reform, we haven't seen tax reform, what happens to the markets and the confidence as we now have to see this actually implemented? >> well, first of all, there had been a lot of things implemented, a lot of regulations have already been rolled back, commerce department has been tasked with this big study of all the permitting rules and regulations that impede american manufacturing and, in fact, friday was the deadline for people to put in their list, so pretty soon, we will be coming out with the things he -- we feel he should
roll back. i will be at the mar-a-lago session with the chinese and that should be fascinating. sandra: wow, such an honor to have you ahead of that meeting, good to have you. >> thank you, sandra. sandra: with a look at what's coming up at media buzz, let's check in with howie kurtz. howie: good morning, sandra. opinion shows like hannity are bad for america. feud over house intelligence probe and sarah huckabee sanders from the white house, all coming up at the top of the hour. sandra: we will see you in a few minutes. is the trump administration right when it says those cities don't care enough about stopping crime? more on that as we look ahead on sunday morning futures it's the little things in life that make me smile. spending the day with my niece. i don't use super poligrip for hold,
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sandra: a senate judiciary committee vote schedule for tomorrow for supreme court nomination of neil gorsuch to the supreme court. the republicans are threatening to use the nuclear option to confirm him. will they do it in let's bring in our panel ed rollins, former campaign for the reagan-bush ticket in 1984, i'm also joined by richard fowler, fox news contributor and radio show and caitlin, national political reporter for real clear politics. good for you to be here this morning. happy sunday morning to you. i feel like i want to start with you first. you kind of set this up historically, what would this nuclear option mean if it were -- >> it means the senate will never quite be the same and will move more to a majority vote on most of the major issues as oppose to the 60 votes an my sense it is what's going to happen. they said that will vote and the
other side. they will get it to 51 votes. sandra: caitlin, do you get the same sense that this is where it's going? >> yes, they have a very active liberal base that wants them to push against anything that trump wants to do and little incentive to work with president trump because of approval ratings are so low, factoring the politics, this pick is not going to change the make-up of the supreme court. it's a fulfillment of conservative seat. they change the nuclear option, if there's another vacancy that comes up that makes it all the more easier for republicans to get an even more conservative judge in there. so it's kind of a questionable strategy but, again, they seem to think that politics is on their side. [laughter]
sandra: when i saw you walking, oh, boy, here we go. let me quote chuck sheemer, it's going to be uphill climb to 60. >> playing chicken with the nuclear option or playing chicken with reversing what the senate used to be is a tough spot for democrats to be in. with that being said, this is donald trump's supreme court nominee. if he really wants gorsuch on the court he has seven democrats -- sandra: which he does. >> he needs to campaign for it. he talked about him in the beginning. we heard nothing from the president on neil gorsuch. >> i would argue the opposite. it would be better if let mcconnell get his votes and the president can be a a distraction, he has a lot things to do this week. this is an inside game. this is either going to be the democrats are going to lose it
by making the wrong decision or the republicans are going to win it by going to the nuclear option. sandra: you brought up the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. he says, we are going to get judge gosh such -- gorsuch confirmed. >> that's right, you have republican lawmakers who are not all that concerned about invoking the nuclear option. remember dems -- democrats did it to -- for executive appointments changing the supreme court would be one thing. if you're trying to get major policies through, if you continue to change these rules, i think democrats would see a lot of policy that they don't want to see get through get through the senate if you lower that threshold and also you have to consider that in 2018 you have lots of democrats up for reelection in state that is trump won, republicans think they can expand their map, expand their number, their majority in the senate after
those elections, so, again, figure out the politics here is really tricky. don't see how democrats come out on the winning end if this is the strategy that they go with. [laughter] sandra: richard, it doesn't seem that democrats are choosing their battles here. >> no, i hear that. i tend to agree. i'm not sure that we play the nuclear option on this one and here is why because this is a fair trade, the next time around, god forbid, god forbid that something happens to ruth ginsburg we will get someone to the left. if you can play the parlor game if you want to, if trump wants to win in the first hundred days he would go to the hill and would probably get -- sandra: how important is the confirmation?
>> the house will certainly pas some things and the freedom caucus may go to war with the president for a short period of time, he's going to need them in order to get anything through to process. to get to the senate you're not going to do it with 52 votes, you will not hold 52 votes on everything otherwise in two years the country is going to say it's a do-nothing country and i'm willing to basically get it to the point where it's 51 votes on everything, partisan on both sides and let's some things done. sandra: always good to get your perspective. ed, caitlin and richard, thank you very much. the fight over sanctuary cities, the president threatening to slash their federal funding, but is that enough, congressman bob goodluck joins us next as we look ahead on sunday morning fus and the wolf huffed and puffed...
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♪ ♪ ♪ sandra: the white house renewing a promise to cut federal funding to sanctuary cities arguing those cities aren't doing enough about stopping crime. joining me now is congressman bob goodlatte, good to have you here sir, good morning. >> good to be with you, sandra. sandra: all right, congressman, what do you make of the white house to cut federal funding for sanctuary cities? you heard it reiterated from the white house this week, of course, after the big announcement from jeff sessions? >> well, i'm all for it. we have been attempting to do this in the congress for the last few years with the obama administration which coddled thh they instruct local law enforcement to not cooperate
with federal law enforcement officials to keep these cities safe. it makes no sense and we are far better served by going after the 300,000 convicted criminal aliens that are on the streets of this country and should be sent home. sandra: it is very concerning when you do see things that are happening in cities like chicago, philadelphia, where you have democratic mayors like rahm emmanuel in the city the city of chicago that comes out and makes announcement and threat to withhold federal funding saying we are a welcoming city. what do you make of the white house saying that this means that they don't care enough about stopping crime in their cities? >> well, i think that's absolutely true. just look at san francisco releasing someone who had been deported from the country already five times onto their streets sending kate stanley gets murdered. and yet it's setting itself up as a manager net for people who
are convicted criminal aliens to be in these cities because likelihood of being deported goes up when they are in those cities. it's also a problem for the entire country because crime by people who are not lawfully present in the united states occurs in other places as well and this message that there are such things as sanctuary cities is a magnet that draws people here from other countries. we need to stop it. sandra: so you hear a lot of talk about changing the laws and also enforcing the law that is are on the book, congressman, how likely is it that they will pass? >> well, first of all, there are laws on the books right now requiring local and state law enforcement to cooperate with federal law enforcement, but one of the tools for that is cutting off funding. the president will get a lot of support for that in the congress and funds for these communities that do not cooperate will be cut off, i predict by the congress. with regard to other laws, we do
need to have interior enforcement law that is -- laws that will help the president fulfill his commitment and we also need to have laws that stop people from being caught at the border and then released into the interior of the country, instead they should be returned safely to their home. sandra: before i let you go, congressman, of course, i want to know what's next on the agenda, but that would require me asking you about republicans and the status of working together. we just interviewed a member of the freedom caucus, the president vowing to fight them as well as democrats after the failure of health care. what is next for you? >> well, first of all, with regard to immigration, the house judiciary committee has a number of enforcement bills that i know the trump administration wants and needs. they have done a great job using the tools they have already cracking down on illegal immigration, but they need some legislation and i think when the american people see the work that he's doing and then what
needs to be done to stop catch and release and stop asylum abuse, stop sanctuary cities, they will support this agenda in the congress and they'll demand that the congress pass it. the senate, i was listening to your last guest, the senate does need to change its rules because there are some things in the president's agenda, in what the members of congress in both the house and the senate on the republican side and the majority ran on that need to get out of the senate and i hope they change those rules. sandra: all right, congressman, good luck, thanks for joining us this morning. good to see you, sir. >> that's, sandra. sandra: still to come our panel rejoins us with the one thing to
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