i could see him being very erratic and in the next six months there's something really serious. it could also go the four years of the presidency. charles: i'll have more on this tonight on "making money." trish regan's going to take you through the next hour. trish: thank you so much, charles. we are waiting on sean spicer who will be addressing the media any minute. you're looking at the live feed as the reporters assemble. this briefing is coming as president trump issues a new warning to north korean leader kim jong un, behave or else. let's see how the markets are reacting. you can see they are settling out here in positive territory, up 130 points on the dow, nasdaq up 31. welcome, everyone, to "the intelligence report." president trump keepg a close eye on north korea right now following the communist couny's latest attempt t launch a missile. now luckily, the missile exploded within seconds. there are now report that is the united states may have used

cyber technology to thwart the launch. we're going to see what sean spicer has to say about all of it. plus, a stark warning from vice president mike pence who made a surprise visit to the demilitarized zone today, warning the north korean dictator not to test president trump. here he is. >> since 1992 the united states and our allies have stood together for a denuclearized korean peninsula. we hope to achieve this objective through peaceable means. but all options are on the table. the era of strategic patience is over. trish: all right. you heard the vice president, all options on the table. now, as we await sean spicer who's going to address this and a whole lot more, i have former cia officer and radio talk show host buck sexton on set with me along with fox news contributor leslie marshall and american majority ceo ned ryan. buck, first of all, could you weigh in on what we may or may not have done to thwart this attempt by north korea?

>> this would be a neither confirm, nor deny situation. the u.s. government's never going to give you any information one way or the other on this. i don't know, but certainly when you look at the realistic options, people were reporting on a first strike possibility last week in the news. that's not a realistic oion. that's not something we would ever want to do in the realm of trying to bring north korea to the table to give up its nuclear program. that would be catastrophic. that's an absolute last resort. so now you look at everything else on the table, and certainly that includes diplomacy, it includes some other meds that would be out -- methods would be out there -- trish: anything that it takes. >> anything to stop them getting advances would be important. trish: i want to get back to how this all started in just a moment, and president clinton -- perhaps some naive assumptions that were made way back when. ned ryan, mike pence saying, listen, don't mess with president trump, don't mess with the u.s. on this.

we're trying to enlist china's support. what are our options? what do we do? how do we get them to behave? >> trish, you make a very good point that has to be addressed, that we're here in this situation because of the clinton administration back in the mid '90s not putting down, you know, a firm foot and saying you can't accelerate your nuclear program. but let's not give the bush administration a pass east because, remember, let's not forget that bush made -- >> no, no, okay, they're going to come -- [inaudible] >> axis of evil. but in 2006 north korea became a regional nuclear power. here you have trump saying enough is enough. like pence said, we're done having conferrings. we're going to have a show of force to say the real conversation here, trish, is are we going to let, quite frankly as john mccain said, the fat, crazy kid have nuclear capabilities and the ability to drop a nuclear missile into the ideas? trish: the answer is, no, we're not going to. no, we're not going to. trump's not going to. so how do -- >> but here's the situation, we are accelerating this to say we are not going to let this continue. they've gone from having 77

pounds of plutonium to now 110 pounds in the last three years. and so what he's saying is i am going to have the carl vinson strike group come in, i'm going to say we are going to have a conversation, we're going to acceleratehe conversation, and here's the thing that's taken place over the last couple weeks, trish. 59 tomahawk missiles into syria, a moab in afghanistan -- trish: okay, but that works in a world where you're dealing with sane players. i guess my one concern, leslie, is this guy's absolutely, totally nuts. he's the craze -- crazy one out there. so while, you know, even as a deterrent to the likes of iran, i mean, they see what we're doing with the 56 tomahawk missiles, with the mother of all bombs, and they get it. they get it. but can this guy get it? >> well, one of the problems is the boy that cried wolf, and we don't know when he's bluffing and when he isn't because he has

historically, especially since we referred to his nation as one of the axes of evil, threatened annihilation to the enemies, of course, of which we were one. look, north korea has been a problem and the leader has been a problem since harry truman. it's not just the past president in eight years, and it's not just the past three presidents. i'm going to give donald trump credit here. don't faint, y'all. [laughter] here's the thing, right now engaging china and bringing china into the fray, into the table and looking at economic sanctions that really haven't been considered in the manner that donald trump is and this administration is looking at it, i think, is key now. we're not only different, looking at a new leader, but we're looking at new capability with weaponry and with nuclear weaponry and missiles. and, trish, to your point, he does not want to lose his position. he's not just a leader. we have to remember, this is not just a dictatorship. it's a totalitarian regime. he is their god, if you will.

he doesn't want to lose that. he knows it would be, if you will, a nuclear holocaust if he were to bring in the united states by getting into a ground war with south korea. trish: okay, well, you know, that's heartening. my concern is maybe he doesn't understand that. maybe heoesn't exactly understand the implications of getting into a nuclear war with us. go ahead, buck. >> up to this point, north korea has acted in a rational fashion from north korea's perspective. they have been advancing a nuclear program without crossing international red lines, and they've been doing it at a pretty good clip tbiive the fact we've had sanctions, agreements, talks, nuclear freezes. none of that has worked. north korea has been doing more missile tests, more nuclear tests, and so now we're trying to do a few things. you want to contain north korea as best you can, part of that would be missile defense in a worst case scenario. erode the power from inside, that's where sanctions come in, wells diplomatic relations, and you hope for regime change as well. part of the problem here is

there wasn't very much done for eight years of barack obama's administration on north korea of note. the strategic patience line is really the best description of it, and that goes up there with leading from behind in libya in terms of a strategic approach. trish: you know what makes me worried about all this, i look at iran and the nuclear deal we struck with iran, and, ned ryan, my concern is, is iran basically going to be north korea all over again, fast forward to the future? we've got to deal with north korea now, but let's face it, we're going to have to deal with iran at some point as well. >> well, no, and you're making a very fair point here. i mean, the obama doctrine seems to have been hope for diminution of threats, and the trump doctrine seems to be we're not going to let this slide anymore. we're going to to respond swiftly, and it'll be a punishment of threats. not only are we dealing with north korean, we're also dealing with iran. the thing that's interesting as we've seen trump say i'm not going to call china a currency manipulator.

my hope is, okay, in exchange for that, i need you to really crack down because, let's face it, north korea would not be where it's at -- trish: don't we think he's doing that, ned? >> he is -- trish: maybe you don't want to do it publicly because then maybe china feels you're backing them into a corner, one would think if he's not labeling them a currency manipulator as he threatened to do, there is some quid pro quo. >> there is, and that's why giving them a pass on currency manipulation if you can leverage china into saying to north korea, knock it off, we're going to yank on your chain, and you're going to knock off this behavior. trish: leslie, isn't that -- happening on, isn't that in china's interest to do that too? not just the fact we're telling them to do so, but, you know, they've got some real instake in the region. >> yes. china definitely has the incentive. but one key element, folks, that we're not taking into consideration is south korea. seoul and people of south korea are much closer and would certainly be victims of any type

of irrational weaponry use, missile, nuclear or otherwise from north korea. they have an election gown on. it looks like the more liberal candidate is going to be the winner who actually wants more, not less diplomacy, which is pretty contrary to what our vice president and president are saying and what america wants to give the signal for. this is not like afghanistan. this is not a cave. this is an entirely different thing. we're talking about millions of people in a very close approximate semity to north korea -- proximity to north korea, to the border, to these missiles in the seoul, and we have to factor that in. we have to be careful of threats made on twitter and otherwise. >> also there's really a double hostage situation. you have the north korean people being held hostage by kim jong un as well as all south korea, and seoul is close enough to the dmz that people realize even conventional munitions could destroy much of the city in a short period of time. so that's why the military option is something anybody in their right mind would want to pursue.

as we try to exert pressure which is the smartest thing trump has done so far, china's interests, our interests and north korea are not exactly aligned. trish: explain that. >> if north korea completely implodes, there'll be a massive refugee cry -- crisis. china's going to be the one that would likely deal with much of that crisis. also north korea wants a buffer state between a pro-western, democratic south korea and communist china, right? sorry, china wants a buffer between south korea and china. so they want north korea to exist in some capacity, just not as bellicose, pricenning and nuclear-armed as it current hi is. they don't want an implosion of the state, they want some version to continue in the future because strategic death against all of our efforts to have allies -- trish: would they consider bringing someone else in? maybe you have someone that is acceptable to the chinese, acceptable to us and is not as crazy as the one we've got there

flight now? -- right now? >> i don't think anybody that is that leverage in north korea, and i think looking at the way the dynasty is going right now, we probably have our most unstable and difficult leader right now in north korea that we've had in decades, and that's what's brought us to this point because host had relatively free rein for years now. trump is trying to confront him, and this guy is even more difficult in some ways than his father or perhaps even his father before him. trish: go ahead, ned. >> not only have we gotten to a point where they're increasing their weapons-grade blew plutonium, the questn heart attack is, are they able -- question mark is a they able to put a nuclearized warhead on an icbm? it's becoming to the point where they keep on expanding their capability. the time to have this conversation is now, not in the future when they have those capabilities. so it's because -- trish: i'll tell you, you know, the market agrees with you. the market is okay having this conversation right now as we look at a dow that's up 130.

so despite all the trepidation going boo this weekend, all the concerns, all the international strife going on, investors are still bidding this market higher. and sos this is a vote of confidence, perhaps if you will, in what trump has done with china. i'm going to go back to leslie, because she had some positive things to say -- [laughter] which is rare, everyone, for leslie when it comes to donald trump. but this is what you want to see. you want to see that statesmanlike president on the international stage that's forcing this issue by working together with other countries? >> i agree with that. however, some of the threatening tweets is not presidential and does not help not only the united states, but the world and especially the folks in south korea. buck, you and i have agreed so much today, i'm in shock. [laughter] trish: but wait a second -- >> right is right, leslie. that's the good news. >> no, no, no, i'm still on the left. the people of -- south korea, i agree with you, buck, south korea doesn't want north korea

to go away, because they don't want to invade north korea and, quite frankly, i disagree with which one of you said it would be china's mess to pick up. it would be our mess to pick up. we would be responsible. the other thing is the north korean people are completely isolated, are brainwashed. it would be a very difficult task because this is a dynasty by birth. not election. this is a brainwashing of decades. remember how they -- trish: so gett there because of that would be -- >> very difficult. trish: very challenging, very difficult. >> there's no apparatus in place at all. no civil society in place to support whoever would in and take over. but to the poibout us cleaning up the mess, leslie, just geographic create speaking -- geographically speaking, north korea will affect china a whole lot more than this. the chinese worry about a future in which they have a massive refugee crisis on their hands. that's why china's willing to be helpful here.

you've even heard donald trump say maybe we'll give you a better trade deal, they want to be helpful, but they don't want it to go away. and when you look at our strategy boxing in china with allied democracies, china wants the strategic depth and projection of having a friendly allied state in north korea that they want to stay. they don't want to see fun, friendly democratic elections in north korea anytime soon. preventing nuclear war, though, is aligned with theirs. >> i agree. buck, i agree with you. the problem is china is not alluding to any kind of a first strike which the united states clearly is with don't mess with us, you know, we're g.i. joe, puffing out our chest -- trish: all right. [inaudible conversations] we're going to see if sean spicer has anything to say about this. let's listen in. >> easter holiday and haven't had a chance to go out and check out the activity on the south lawn. we've got a few waves still to go.

the president and first lady welcomed thousands of families here this morning for the 139th annual easter egg roll. when it's all said and done, we'll have had thousands of guests including many active military, veterans' families, children from local schools, patients from local children's hospitals all here to share in this historic event. right about now the president is finishing up his regular meeting with the secretary of state. the vice president, of course, is currently on a ten-day trip visiting south korea, japan, indonesia and australia. while in south korea, the vice president participated in easter church service with both american and south korean service members and their families and has been holding bilateral meetingsith reesentatives ofhe south korean government. the ce president is delivering a message to the people t republic of korea on behalf of the president that even in these troubled times, the united states stands with them for a free and secure future. under president trump our iron-clad alliance will be even stronger. our nations will be safer, and

the asia-pacific region will be more secure. of from south korea the vice president will head to japan, continue to provide updates as they warrant during the vice president's trip throughout the rest of the week. looking ahead, tomorrow the president heads to wisconsin where he'll talk about his buy america, hire america agenda at snapon tools in key nobody shah, wisconsin. for those of you who weren't aware, snapon can a prime example of a company that builds american-made tools by american workers. we'll be having a background briefing later in this afternoon with senior administration officials regarding the details of the trip. further guy dance should be -- further guidance should be coming into your inning boxes momentarily. the president is proud to sign legislation on wednesday which passed unanimously by the senate earlier this month. the bill insures that veterans have certainty and continuity of care while this administration works with congress to develop a plan that reforms the v.a.

system and gives our nation's heroes the care that they deserve. he'll also host the new england patriots this wednesday to congratulate them on their fifth super bowl win. and on thursday the prime minister of italy will be here for an official visit. with that, i'll kick it off to the birthday boy, mr. jim acosta. >> i'll take it. thank you, sean. [laughter] does the president have a red line when it comes to north korea that if they cross it, they will bring about some kind of military response from the u.s.? >> i think what we talked about, you know, the use of red lines in the past with respect to syria, the president's, you know, that drawing red lines habit rely worked in the past -- hasn't really worked i the past. he holdsis cards close to the vest, and you're not going to see him telegraphing how he's going to respond to any military or other situation going forward. that's just something he believes has not served us well in the past. we did this with mosul, we start to talk about what the action

will be months in advance, and it really gives the intended recipient of action a heads up as to what's going on. so i don't think you're going to see the president drawing red lines in the stand, but i think -- in the sand, but i think the action he showed in syria that, when appropriate, this president will take decisive action. >> let me follow up on that. syria's one thing, north korea's quite another when they have nuclear ambitions the way that they do. >> right. >> you talk about, well, we did this to syria and to afghanistan, is that -- >> no. i think in the case -- >> [inaudible] with, you know, bombastic rhetoric? >> no, no. and, again, please don't read too much into that in terms of trying to make an analogy. i think it's quite the opposite. but i think with respect to north korea in particular, the president had a really good meeting with president xi down at mar-a-lago where he's spoken extensively about the relationship that they made down there and that they continue to work to improve. and the results of that are paying off.

i think you see china playing a much more active role in, with respect to north korea. both politically and economically, they can continue to apply pressure to achieve results, and i think we're going to continue to urge china to exhibit its influence in the region to get better results. >> north korea did launch that missile. >> i understand that, and it failed. we're well aware of what's going on. we monitor ored that situation. the president was kept up-to-date, as you know. but i think we're going to continue to work with china in particular to help find a way forward on this. john. >> thanks a lot, sean. the president, as you just mentioned, has spoken about this relationship that he's developed with president xi, president xi leaning on the north korean government to prevent the kind of attempted -- [inaudible] like you saw over the weekend. it seems as if that effort in terms of leaning on north korea did not work work. in addition to that, the vice foreign minister of north korea

said to the bbc today that north korea will test its missiles on a weekly, a monthly and a yearly basis. so my question is, what kind of pressure is china putting on -- >> well, again, i think this goes back to the nut of what jim was asking which is, i think, for us to telegraph what we're going to do or what we're going to ask others to do would not be a smart strategy to lay out in public. i be -- but i think if you realize, for example, on the economic side of things china is the number one importer of north korean coal, i think to see them curtail some of that has a real economic impact on the region. there's a lot of economic and political pressure points that i think china can utilize, and we've been very encouraged with the direction which they're going. >> but -- [inaudible] north korea is, essentially, just based upon what they tried to do over the weekend, thumbing it nose. >> well, i -- >> and even china because of what they attempted to do. >> we're -- i understand the question. i think we're just not there yet.

we've got a lot of tools left and a lot of conversations that are ongoing. let's not get ahead of ourselves. i think we've had very productive direction that we've seen china move in, and i think that there's an agreement, i think, by everyone so far that, you know, a nuclear-capable north korea is not in anybody's best interests. and i think we're going to continue to work with the chinese in particular on this case. caitlin. >> thanks, sean. what was the review of the white house visitor log? what was the extent of the review? >> i'm sorry? >> what made you change your mind to not continue releasing them? >> i think, as was noted on friday, we are following the same policy that every administration from the beginning of time has used with respect to visitors' log. we will comply with both the federal records act and the presidential recordsct as stat bw. >> why does e prident object to people knowing who's coming in the white house? >> it's about following the law.

we're following the law as both the presidential records act and the federal records act prescribe it. so it's the same policy that every administration had up until the obama administration and, frankly, the faux attempt that the obama administration put out where they would scrub who they didn't want put out didn't serve anyone well. the president wants to make sure that people can come in the same way that they can go boo a member of congress' office, and there's people who want to be able to come have that conversation with members of the administration the same way that they would do with members of congress going to their office -- >> why didn't he take this aunt opportunity to one-up the transparency -- >> because -- i think i'm trying to explain that to you. we recognize that there's a privacy aspect to allowing citizens to come express their views, and that's why we maintain the same policy that every other administration did coming up here prior to the last one. and the last one, frankly, was a faux level of doing that because when you scrub everyone's name out that you don't want everyone to know, that really is not an

honest attempt at doing it. we are going to follow the law that every administration has followed up until the last one. zeke. >> thanks, sean. [inaudible] the rationale given friday for -- [inaudible] reversal was that for the national security and privacy concerns. both of those were clear exceptions in the obama administration policy which which led to that scrubbing you described. why exactly the reversal? maybe a third rationale that you're giving? >> no. i think i just touched on privacy. that people have a right -- >> the obama administration had that exception to to their business -- >> but i think the problem, zeke, is that we don't know what the -- i mean, they said what it was, but you don't know who got left off and who didn't. they chose to not put people out for whatever reason, and they gave an excuse, and no one questioned it. so the question is -- but i think the bottom line is, as i said to caitlin, that we're going to have the same policy that every, you know, president

s had through time and comply with the law on both fronts. i think -- but, again, you remember, it's interesting that, you know, we're following basically the same thing that members of congress follow. you go and you meet with a member of congress right now, there's an option for people to be able to to go and express their opinion. if they want to make it public, who's meeting with them, in a lot of cases we do, we bring in you guys to probably a bigger percentage than before. but i think there's an opportunity sometimes for american people who want to come and have a conversation and not become, you know, and be able to share their view. so, again, but will be,s this is the same -- but remember, this is the same policy that every president and every administration has followed. >> i'll grant you that, but -- >> thank you. >> this president said he was going to drain the swamp. under this existing policy, a lobbyist -- [inaudible] a washington insider, members of, you know, of the swamp can walk into the white house, and there is no recourse for the

public to hold the press -- >> i think you guys -- but the visitor logs to all the white house components, omb, the council of economic quality, u.s. trade representative, office of science and technology -- >> [inaudible] >> huh? what i'm saying is all of those are subject to the federal records act. we're complying with all that and complying with the presidential records act. my point is, look, this is the policy that's existed from the beginning of time since they were kept. through the last one. and the last one was a faux attempt at that. again, it's not really being transparent when you scrub out the names of the people that you don't want anyone to know were here. so i think we made a decision to stay in line with the law and follow the same procedures that everyone else has maintained. trey. >> thanks, sean. on north korea, is the president prepared to act alone, or does he feel that congress should be somehow involved in the process if any decision that includes the use of force is made? >> i think he's going to utilize the powers under article ii of the constitution.

he, i think what you saw with reect t action that he had with syria, he made sure that members of congress were notified of his action in a very, very short amount of time. we're going to continue to seek their input on the policy overall. and then make sure that they're notified. we'll do that. but i think the bigger consultation issue is what we do with the larger world community and have that dialogue as i mentioned earlier to make sure that every country that can is putting the appropriate level of economic and political pressure on north korea to act in a way that helps us. eamon. >> thanks, sean. tax filing day coming up, is the president going to release his 2016 tax returns given that we can assume maybe that those are not themselves under audit? >> no, you can't. they are. i think it's been covered before. it's the same thing that was discussed during the campaign trail. the president is under audit. it's a routine one that continues, and i think that the

american public clearly know where he stands. this was something he made very clear during the election cycle. excuse me, hold on. and the one time that it was done, i think the people understand, you know, how successful the president's been ask and how much he's paid in taxes. but it's the same, we're under the same audit that existed, so nothing has changed. >> the irs never comments on individual taxpayer information. >> right. >> this, obviously, is an extraordinary case involving the president of the united states. the president could authorize the irs, presumably, to go ahead and confirm that he's under audit and to give us some details about the audit, what years, how long it's expected to take, etc. will the president authorize the irs to confirm -- >> i think the president's view on this has been very clear from the campaign, and the american people understood it when they elected him in november. halle. >> [inaudible] >> thank you. always looking out for me, john roberts. >> political leaders in hawaii are reviewing plans in case they

are attacked. does the president believe that the level of tension between the united states and north korea is at the point where we should start reviewing emergency attack plans? >> so just to be clear and, again, i'm not going to get into -- i would just tell you that there are military contingency plans for almost every scenario in a numerous aspects around the world, here at home, everything from humanitarian relief to refugee crises to attacks. that is standard military procedure, to have those kind of things. so to make that in any way, shape or form sound new would be a mistake. it is a standard operating procedure of the military to plan for contingencies in a number of operations, in a number of hospital spots -- hot spots throughout the world on a regular basis. and that's been going on for decades. >> i'm just wondering, how high does the president view the threat level from north korea? >> again, i think the president's made clear we're aware of the activities that they've engaged in, and we're

monitoring them, and the national security team continues to keep them up-to-date. >> just one more on that topic. one of the reasons why the successive administrations have chosen to negotiate with the leader of north korea is because it'selievetherar good military options to al with them. does this president believe there are viable military options for dealing with -- >> not telegraphing -- >> [inaudible] >> again, i think taking anything out of the table -- off the table is limiting your options, so i'm not going to discuss that. julie.

i think we would rather not get ahead of that report and make decisions without knowing that. i would rather wait. >> it would be on the regularities the hacks that turkey is going through. they have a right to have elections in their people participate in that before we start getting into their governing system. let their commission get through. >> when vice president mike pence said regarding the north koreans patience is over. the air of strategic patients to basically wait and see. i think we have now understood that that policy is not one that is printed to the unites states and i think that's why eve seemed stepped up efforts particularly with respect to china and i think the relation with the president really is

building on from the time he spent down and mara largo it will produce results. part of it is to actively engage with world partners like china in particular that had economic and political fluence thathey can utilize. >> i am not going to get ahead of the policies right now. i think were seen some active engagement with china and that is helpful. let's see how that goes. [indiscernible] at what point does the strategy become a liability? >> i respectfully would disagree. when he acted in syria in particular the world community make your home on a bipartisan basis applauded the

president's actions. i think absolutely. i think you have to look at the flip. i talked about it a minute ago. it's also been a good example. it takes a huge element off the table. to achieve the effect that you're trying to. the more that he meets with world leaders. and reasserting it. they were decided the president was taking action. >> the defense officials have admitted for a long time that it would cost thousands of lives. is this to be recommended to that acceptance of risk?

>> again, i think the point is that in the hypotheticals what you'll take on and off the table at some point you really start to narrow the options. what ever is in the particular case whoever even if it's just the negotiation where to go and were where not to go. not to get options off the table gives us a stronger hand. >> to ensure the national interests are protected. if you're taking anything off the table that would limit what we have to do. we have to do what we have to do that protects the national interest. with respect to south korea we been very clear about the need to strengthen and strengthen

the alliance. you're not taking option off the table that can be read as you are accepting that fact. that is the point. it's not a question of taking a risk or not. when you use this or will you not. the president is very clear and i think everybody who has been briefed on him when you look at the polity of the national security team my all accounts probably the best in the nation's history. you know that the president is getting unbelievably sound and strategic advice on how to protect the national interest. it's not a threat if you can't go through with it. what is our goal in north korea. what is your response to the

critics that say this is just an option to hide some of the problems with the white house staff. >> i don't think there's anybody in the world who would not believe that north korea's actions are both provocative and concern. the actions were taking were appropriate and justified. as i mentioned multiple times today especially china is really acting in a historic way to ensure that our national interests in the safety of the peninsula is protected. >> what about the criticism from people that say you're just fighting and domestic agenda. >> we travel in different circles. i don't think there's anybody who honestly believes that after seeing the launch is that they're taking in the works that their undertaking

that any attempt to protect the country as anything other than that right justified thing to do. >> this morning in an interview referred to the missile launch as an unsuccessful military attack. >> it was an unsuccessful launch. so you just misspoke. there's no specific evidence it was an unsuccessful missile launch. >> sean, you talk about the end of the strategic issue. and attempting to expand china's role. do you believe china has the power to change north korea. that is a really good question. i think they can definitely try there is economic and political points that they could be pushing whether or

not they achieve that outcome is yet to be seen. there's a lot of influence they could exhibit and both of in both of those areas we will have to see. it is clearly the prudent thing for the present to do. to see if we can have the outcome. how concerned are you that the uptick in the language and the tweets could potentially provoke the unintentional military action. a lot of the words that are being thrown around can have a unforeseenmpact explained to me how concerned he is. i think were taking all the appropriate prudent steps. of first of follow up on the tax question. you ask about this about a thousand times.

is it time to say that they are never going to release his tax returns. well had to get back to you on that. i said i would have to get back to you on that. he is still under audit. the statement still stands. on the north korea. you said that they have a historic role right now and pressuring what are they doing. i think when you look at the economic fund that is north korea's number one export. i think they have taken some very helpful economic actions and exhibited positive signs of a diplomatic fund as well. this is something that is an ongoing conversation i think as the president has noted before well had to see but i

think it's encouraging the signs that china is showing. because they were helping north korea. if china does not adequately put pressure on north korea is he can go back? >> number one, they haven't been manipulative dating there currency. i think the tweet said clearly to do so at this time would not be prudent. it's just saying that in the middle of them taking very positive signs to help us address the situation north korea i don't think it would be very productive in achieving aery portant strategic objective. there are now experts on both

sides of the aisle who say the least transparent menstruation in decades. >> i think we've taken several steps to allow peoples access to the white house. we hold regular things. we give the press of the opportunity to come into the room. and here part of the discussion. i would respectively disagree with that. 45% of the americans. [indiscernible] >> i mentioned it on the currency we talked about this last week. the question in my mind is looking at the issue and saying there are certain things and again if you go

back to center 29th of last year he was talking very specifically about some of the moves that he was seen nato making a positive direction. and are ready at that point encouraging him. the treasury did issue a report on friday that put them out on a watch list. i know it's easy to do take initiative. i make it seem very black-and-white but on these particular issues you can see that there's movement to the president position. when you talk about the big issues that he promised the american people in terms of immigration on jobs they are coming back over and over again. your seen companies talk about new job creaon here. the executive orders that he's signing are all consistent with the promises that he made

it to the american people on the campaign trail. whether it's immigration, job creation national security the president made very clear promises to the american people that over and over again he is achieving great success on. would argue that we are to continue to see the president not only keep his word but been awarded by the american people on that front. where he is conducting official business. they believe that those other locations should be treated like this. you guys would be transparent about who they're meeting with and what kind of official they are conducting. >> i think we been fairly consistent with reading out who he's meeting with and what he's done. and access to his whereabouts and what he's doing. obviously the president has

time to spend with family he provides readouts with those. whether it's here or in florida. i think we been a fairly good job. a big insurer of who their meeting with. >> i understand some days even don't get as quick as you want with all due respect he's entitled to have moments with his family and private times i think respectively i would disagree. we do a very good job of getting your information and bring you along to events whether it's here or at an out location. we have lived up to that. i think the president is entitled to head sometimes. with his family and friends to just catch up.

what i'm saying is her question was about officl business. and when he does meet with advisors we generally put it out. in the same way that he's meeting here with his staff. and when he is down that is what his staff does. opportunities to make key decisions. that's what all presidents do. i would respectively suggest that we have done a really good job of making sure that the pool in particular is provided information in terms of the whereabouts and then we provided background briefings. we were going and what we intend to do. i get there is can be a back-and-forth i think that we've tried to do what we can to get that information. thank you guys very much.

with a four to senior in wisconsin tomorrow if you can. >> sean spicer talk about the air -- era of strategic patients. my team is still with me. that certainly is seemingly coming into play. is reacting at one time. let's twiddle the thumbs. on north korea time is not really on our side. towards putting a nuclear weapon on top in the process we head in place right now to stop that may be a delay in it from happening this is a problem we need to address

now. and th doesn't mean stratec patients it means doing things today so that in two years or ten years you don't have an absolute crisis with if north korea could blackmail us with that. we would have a very different situation on our hands as crazy as it is dealing with them right now. this is what you been seen. the policies a previous administrations when it comes to north korea had put us in the situation where we are now. don't we need to be acting strategically to make sure that not only do we deal with north korea but we also handle whatever is coming our way on the ivory in front. the thing i've been thinking about with the trump administration is we are bringing back the whole idea of deterrence. with the ability and capability. and then the third value of deterrence is unpredictably. we have seen being played out over the last few weeks so

you're right. at some point you have to understand the last three administrations had not worked at all with north korea we have to take a different approach. and what were seen with trump is ready to take a much stronger approach i don't think time is on our side. now the time to deal with this issue you will accommodate us. we are in control of this negotiation as buck said if we don't negotiate now to get what we want taken away the nuclear capabilities of north korea we might find ourselves in a very bad place you really not in the driver's seat. i appreciate what trump is doing. we're were seen this as trump supporters this is not about nationbuilding. this is about taking a strong stance again on the international stage saint you will accommodate our interest and include north korea not having nuclear capabilities that could strike against us.

you can see it's up nearly 140 points. near the highs of the session. investors are responding positively to this new era of let's move let's do something forget the strategic patients wait and see. one thing sean did mention and i would like to get your reaction to. what a tremendous group donald trump have surrounded himself with in terms of policy advisers. were talking about the likes of rex tillerson. all of these people that he said really have been assembled in such a way that is unrivaled that you have not seen such a tremendous group of advisors on the international front. what was your reaction to that? >> first of all i am not a trump supporter i've always liked mix mcmasters though. this is a guy that said i will

take the job but my weight or i don't want it. i need to assemble my staff and i need to be able to tell you when i think you're right, i think you're wrong. one of the things the present have a hard time with. i mean this is all due respect being the child of someone who fought in the korean war. sometimes they only look to military solutions. i think this is an area that we agree on. we cannot strike against north korea or take any military force against north korea especially because to ned's point of the lack of predictability not only of that region and what would happen to south korea but certainly because of this current leader and like you said. we could classify him in my opinion is a mad man. they are the two people that with this administration even people who are very critical

of trump across the board they will say that these are the two military minds that are beyond reproach. i do think that that will factor in pretty heavily to all of the north korea policy going forward. he has two of the best in the game. hen yothink of what just happened in afghanistan there. he's making it clear that if the military sees an opportunity and it's right we go ahead and take it? >> he hires the right people and then delegates the same within the parameters of my priorities and policies i will give you certainly way. they have decades of experience in doing these things. going back we had tried strategic patients. we had tried bribing them with oil and food.

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a lot of news coming out of washington right now. he was talking about the importance of strategic patients -- patients. let's wait and see. if indeed over. that is something the vice president said in south korea.

ask about the situation. he said that in the troubled times the u.s. stands with the south koreans for a free and secure future. when asked about the statement and the president's position on the north's aggression and the testing of a ballistic missile which failed here's what he have to say. >> drawing redlines has not really worked in the past. i don't think you will see him drawing redlines in the sand but i think of the action he took in syria shows that when appropriate the president will take decisive action. and when asked what happened in syria whether that was sending a message to the north koreans the action in syria shows that when appropriate

the president will take action. i do want two-point out that the financials are leading here better than 1% overall. followed by consumer discretionary were looking at some upside though. overall in this market. investors shrugging off any concerns on the international front also some economic data out of china as well. also contributing to the sense of optimism that were seen. mcdonald's is up about half a%. we are to take a quick break and we are back as the world continues to watch the tensions mounting between the united states of america and north korea. i will see you here.

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neil today. you can follow me on twitter and let me know of today show. i want to go to lizzie was a very special interview with the ims managing director. we will get to that in one second. wall street with the spring and that step. and what it delivered a rally. the dow is up hundred 27 points. as technology and consumer focus stocks lead the way. the white house press briefing wrapping up just moments ago. the nuclear threat still the hottest topic. sean spicer remaining steadfast when it comes to north korea.