Skip to main content

tv   Cavuto Coast to Coast  FOX Business  July 11, 2017 12:00pm-2:00pm EDT

12:00 pm
may be work for mueller, lots of follow-up but not relevant. stuart: hannity will speak with exclusively with donald trump, jr., tonight 10:00 p.m. on the fox news channel. that will be hannity tonight. neil it is yours. neil: regardless of the markets, everything away from an agenda that looks a lot more promising on paper. stuart: so true. got it. neil: thank you. welcome everybody, you're watching "cavuto: coast to coast." everything looks bad for team trump, looks bad for stocks. the minute we got emails being released concerning donald trump, jr., look at market, with a very big drop. the gist is this. the these emails whether you support ongoing investigations into the so-called collusion story or not, it is getting in the way of an agenda that most people seem to like, but that agenda doesn't seem to get much
12:01 pm
of a chance to get off the ground. the we're going to be exploring that with senator roger wicker, of course one of the key players not only on the health care front but getting tax cuts launched and done. that is looking shall we say dicey. blake burman at the white house with the latest. reporter: neil, keeping that in mind just yesterday at white house press briefing the white house put forward mark short, legislative affairs head at the white house, in part talking about health care, in part talking about tax reform. now fast forward 20 hours or so, email dump by donald trump, jr., himself, poeted to his very own twitter account. we've gone through the few emails that he posted. let me ticket through from the beginning. donald trump, jr., has an acquaintance he known by rob gold steen. in this email in the early parts of june 2016 goldstein emailed donald trump, jr., saying influential russians he had heard, top prosecutor had told
12:02 pm
these russians that had dirt potentially damaging on::and helpful to then candidate trump. so goldstein emails this to donald trump, jr. he then goes on to say, i quote, this is obviously very high level and a sensitive information, but as part of russia and its government support for mr. trump. now donald trump, jr., follows up that email by responding here. quote, if it is what you say i love it, especially later in the summer. could we do a call first thing next week when i am back? now that was in the first week of june 2016, neil, about six days later or so, then fast forward to new york. trump tower, june 9th, when donald trump, jr., had this meeting with jared kushner, paul manafort and a different russian attorney on adoptions that ended up also starting to talk about potential dirt on hillary clinton. that started all of this, that ended up in the "new york times" on saturday. donald trump, jr., has put out a
12:03 pm
statement as he released these emails on twitter in which he said look, this russian lawyer that he ended up meeting with, was not a part of the russian government and she didn't have any information that amounted to anything. he goes on to say, ends the statement with the following, quote, to put this in context, this occurred before the current russia fever was in vogue. as rob gold stone said today in the press entire meeting was most inan nonsense i ever heard and i was actually agitated about it. inane nonsense, on this day talking emails and rush as republicans here in washington figure out a way forward on health care to lead potentially to tax reform. neil? neil: just moving around some of those other channels, what do you think they're obsessing on? thank you very, very much, my friend, blake burman. republican senator from the beautiful state of mississippi,
12:04 pm
roger wicker on all of this, senator, good to have you. what do you think about what you heard? does it bother you on any level that donald trump, jr., wants to arrange with a russian entity with information on hillary clinton? still legal or awkward? night is awkward, yes. would i talk about tax returns and infrastructure and things donald trump was elected to do, yes. neil: what is happening here? this is starting to raise questions of other issues going on before the campaign, a big stretch as you know, i think you said, to call this collusion but others have called it at least cozy, and it is goings to get in the way of this agenda that you want to see completed, what do you think of that? i do think it is another distraction, no question about it. i wish we didn't have it. but listen, donald trump, jr., has, has done two things, he
12:05 pm
said i will be happy to talk to committee. be happy to come to the hill and answer questions about this. also, obviously been very forthcoming in terms of releasing these emails. i called for that in talking to a few members of the press earlier this morning. so, we'll get to the bottom of it. is it the end of the world no. is it a terrible distraction and, and something that takes us away from getting health care done for the american people and for future generations? yes, it is another little stumbling block. neil: all right. it might be more than a little one though, right? when donald trump, jr., had said that he back in march had recalled no such meetings, and then, lo and behold there was one, that he arranged, this is fodder for those on the left, right? fodder for the president's critics and opportunity for them to never get this agenda addressed, right?
12:06 pm
>> i you have said it well, i couldn't have said it better. neil: can we talk about that agenda. >> something better for the people. neil: i hear you, let's talk a little bit about that. now the hope is, i guess that they want to have a health care rework, a bill out before the next recess in august. and hopefully scored by the cbo. there are a variety of plans now being separately scored or looked at by the cbo in your gut, senator, how likely is any of this to come up for a vote even, even before the fall? >> i think it is likely. and here's the plan, at least, according to senator mcconnell, as late as yesterday afternoon. they have been working over the july the 4th brake to masses sang some suggestions made -- to massage some of the suggestions we took before the break. secretary mnuchin was supposed to meet with us at lunch in a
12:07 pm
few moments. i look forward to hear what he has to say. he will talk about the health care around need to get that finished so we can move on to tax reform and make the economy more competitive internationally. neil: you need job creation going, that is the goal. >> it is agenda we picked first. it needs to get done. i tell you what needs to get done this week after we've seen the details which i hope are rolled out tomorrow, then we need to pass a motion to proceed. in other words, we need to get to the bill. and that will lead to what we call a voter rama. this is a very open process. there is no filibuster. there is no stopping these amendments through filling up the amendment tree or anything like that. this is the most open process you can ever have in the united states senate. we may have 100 amendments but if we get on the bill and get started and then see where the votes are on this matter. neil: where do you think they
12:08 pm
are, senator? we're, we heard that there are 10 pretty firm no votes as they stand right now. the worst you can deal with is two. can you really get -- >> i don't think so. neil: heretofore predisposed to vote against this, to vote for it. >> i think that is overly pessimistic that there are 10 that are no votes. i think some want to see substantive changes. i the changes may be rolled out tomorrow. i hope they are. we need to get thing on the floor, 50 votes yes on motion to proceed. we need to let the american people see where their elected senators stand on these issues. neil: senator, for taking time to with all the breaking news we do appreciate it, sir. >> thank you. neil: i want to show you if you don't mind that point in the day, inflection point it might be when we got news of this, these emails, regardless of your position whether this is crisis
12:09 pm
of the administration. whether this is worth hull baloo it is getting in a way of busy agenda. obviously a lot there. they have to address the debt ceiling. they have to get the health care thing done. they have to get taxes done. they have a lot to get done. we could be in the middle of who knew what was emailing, texting what and when. "wall street journal's" shelby holiday. fox business's gerri willis. let's go first, gerri, on notion this is distraction and nothing more. that is the best republicans can hope, right? >> you mean. mails we were talking about? absolutely a distraction. hopefully they have this thing right but who knows. if it is not more than a distraction, disaster for what they want to get done if it is not, what is august's distraction? seems like something every single week new comes up.
12:10 pm
i have to tell you i don't see how the timeline really works. there are so many or the distracting factors. budget resolution has to be put in place. neil: it has to be to clock work, right? >> yes. neil: debatable. >> almost like the senate is looking for distractions at this point. if timeline can be interrupted, they need to take a break because they got back from taking a break, because they need ad break because they didn't do anything. they need august recess, they did nothing, and taking a break from doing that as well. they have seven months into their, this part of their legislative agenda. they have maybe a supreme court justice to appoint to. whole culture of d.c. needs to be reconsidered to stick to the timeline, health care and tax cuts. neil: i hear you. shelby, what is interesting, played out again and again, whether you argue these emails are bombshells, i am not a lawyer so i don't know but i will say this, that i could see
12:11 pm
and understand why wall street would initially sell off on them, maybe stablize a little bit right now. the concern is it gets in the way, right? everything gets in the way. >> it is bad for president's agenda. it is not such a destracks. these things actually cost lawmakers time. instead of working on health care all health committee members getting to donald trump's emails and getting to the bottom of it they're setting up meetings. it takes a lot of time. we saw this in the spring. it's a huge time suck for lawmakers it is. >> not rational for stocks to sell off, because it is bad for the president doesn't mean the republican party is going down in flames. president uses twitter and other methods on his own to distract lawmakers. neil: fear of god into them to get something done. gerri, i was thinking this, what if they don't fear him anymore that is he is more hindrance than help?
12:12 pm
regardless anything comes of tease latest emails that he is hurting themselves and party and might want to divorce from him. >> i had people make the argument, what needs to happen is led by congress, get moving get it done to the he degree that you can. you heard in interview that you just did with the senator, what they will do, put a health care bill on the floor and open it up to moments. this will be the first really public conversation on health care we've had in congress. neil: but that would be a tough sell, right, charlie? even if you put everything open and get a lot of amendments going. unless votes are there i don't know are there and those 10 no votes right now are not firm, then let's make the assumption that the republicans are right, only two of them are necessary and they will get those two. >> it will be impossible to get to 60. they have to find a way to get to 51 using reconciliation. even 51 is huge challenge. get to 51 with amendments added in democratic games if they have
12:13 pm
one amendment will have to go back to process where house and senate will meet and they have all have to agree. neil: agree on -- >> some equalibrium. at some point of equalibrium so the bills can much up. there is conference where they call it comes together. they have to vote on it. probably after the august recess. >> good news for republicans possibly we saw in the cbo score they have tons of money to work with because this score was so much different from the house. they have money to play with. of this a lot of money to throw at opioid, yes. neil: they can buy a lot of votes with that. >> make moderates happy. put more opioid funding. more money to medicaid, appease moderates. the question is how do you appease to conservatives. neil: you have to win over moderates you lose conservatives. so if that is still the case, i don't see, maybe three or four of those 10 changing. >> we did see in the house an amendment that gave states more flexibility. neil: you're right. >> did bring everyone together.
12:14 pm
that is similar to what ted cruz recently proposed in terms of incomessability with insurance companies. that will be interesting to see if that gets approved. neil: john mccain say e says we have to reach across the aisle to work with them. >> something has to give in my view. they can't let the health care situation ride. it is not tenable. people are getting hurt. they don't have coverage. they can't afford coverage. neil: now they're getting the rap for the law already on the books now? >> they absolutely are. that was totally predictable. why didn't they work on this when they could have put something forward that would make sense? >> working with democrats, working with democrats will require throwing billions of dollars at markets to shore them up. that is why republicans don't want to do that yet because they know the bill will look a lot more democratic. neil: real quickly, are any surprised that craziness notwithstanding, intraday, the markets have kind of held their own. >> this is amazing. this is shocking.
12:15 pm
remember there are fundamentals there. seeing incredible earnings growth. 10% in the tech sector. 8% in the rest of the market, s&p 500. there is a real there there. we should be happy. neil: do you buy that. >> point out tale tale of two markets. most of the earnings are six companies. neil: yeah. >> look at energy, it is getting killed right now. >> you still have overseas strength. you have the fed on track which gives a lot of investors -- that has not changed plans yet. neil: crazy items notwithstanding still pretty solid. >> so far. so far. neil: guys, thank you very, very much. so donald trump, jr., is raising new questions for markets that are very, very concerned. do any of you remember when it was hillary clinton and during the campaign she got advanced questions on the debate she had with bernie sanders. she didn't share that with anyone else at the time we learned. now, this is not and day here or is it? your insurance company
12:16 pm
12:17 pm
12:18 pm
won't replace the full value of your totaled new car.
12:19 pm
the guy says you picked the wrong insurance plan. no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about replacing your car because you'll get the full value back including depreciation. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
12:20 pm
♪ neil: all right, wall-to-wall on emails. so now the shoe is on the other foot. we obsessed about clinton emails during the campaign. now obsessing about donald trump, jr.'s email during the campaign, what he said and what he knew and to whom he was chatting. what is at issue here whether he was consistent when he said back in march, that is donald trump, jr., that he had no meetings with the russians. now he is detailing one that he did have that he set up with the russians. now you could go back and forth argue about how that looks. another leap to talk about whether it is illegal but all of this comes at a time when the trump team and obviously republicans in general for agenda they think is winnable for the party and country. these are very big distractions to put it mildly, tom.
12:21 pm
how big? what do you think happens here? >> this is the pretty big news. donald trump, jr., published his email chain on twitter just a couple hours ago, essentially confirming "the new york times'" story. up until this morning "new york times," reporters hadn't seen the emails. they got ahold of them. they were going to publish them. would publish on twitter account essentially confirming that the meeting took place and in that chain they're saying this was a russian government's effort to back trump and the election. that this was a russian government lawyer. so this is a, this is a big deal. it is certainly a big distraction blowing up now and will not go anytime soon. neil: worries about this, i'm no lawyer, i talk to people who are, this is not just a outside political entity. this is a russian, someone obviously has connections back to the russians, clearly indicating that they have essentially dirt on hillary
12:22 pm
clinton or something that would be beneficial to the trump campaign. it is not illegal, awkward, what do you make of it? >> well, i think that is the greatest confirmation we have had so far there was something resembling some definition of collusion that did take place between russians and campaign officials so far. i think the president's supporters have been able to cling this argument there is no evidence now. donald trump, jr., essentially gave out that evidence today. it is, it really argument that this was just pure typical opposition research sort of falls apart under scrutiny when you look at these e-mails. it is clear, it is articulated that russia was looking to help president trump's chances in the election. it has made clear that donald trump, jr., believed at the time this attorney was connected directly to the russian government. so this is really a blow to the white house's argument so far
12:23 pm
they used against these collusion allegations. they will not be able to distance themselves from donald trump, jr., and jared kushner who still currently works in the white house the way they have been with other folks come under scrutiny like paul manafort or carter page. neil: kushner were in this meeting with natalia veselnitskaya, my russian is horrible. you get the idea. i'm curious, tom, maybe you help me out with this, whenever someone says that they never had a meeting or you can prove they said something untruthful, might not have been deliberate, give the benefit of the doubt here, investigators, those on other side will pounce to look for other inconsists, were there other meetings or other russians involved, or more than this woman who claims she was not linked to kremlin though others say she was? you know how this goes. play this out for me. what are we likely to see? rarely can congress walk and
12:24 pm
chew gum at the same time. so if they're so focused on this, does this come to did thetriment focusing on the president's economic agenda. >> sure. it will be another distraction. this is what the media want to talk about. republicans in congress will not want to talk about it. you mentioned look, donald trump, jr., is not part of the administration. he was not required to disclose contacts, jared kushner, different story. apparently he did not disclose this can't. filed an amended form -- neil: amended form others got note of, then immediately pointed out to "the new york times" but go ahead. >> correct. that is problem for jared kushner and we'll see. i'm sure robert mueller and hess staff will continue to investigate that, try to find if there were more -- neil: i keep jumping on you, my friend, i want to be clear. you think this is new area of investigation for mueller now? >> no. i mean i think it is all part of the same piece but it is another, confirmation something actually happened and not going
12:25 pm
away anytime soon. neil: all right. so the way things stand right now, if you guys had your betting on whether republican agenda, even health care thing can get even remotely near a vote, what do you think, sara? >> well, look, i think republicans do have a chance to keep this on a separate track. to keep it isolated from the president given president trump has not been hands on with the health care bill when he was when obamacare repeal and replace moving through the house. if republicans have their prevalence, they hope the president keeps his distance from the health care process to propose their own fixes, to negotiate their own deal, maybe try to keep this compartmentalized so the white house doesn't bring it down with controversies. neil: tom, real quickly, one operative saying democratic operative, pretty sure democratic operative there was no comparison between the charges that hillary clinton, remember had been briefed and got questions that would be
12:26 pm
going to both candidates at one, i think cnn debate. i hope i don't have that wrong. discuss paraphrasing that no one made as big of a dial about that. donald trump mentioned it during their debates but it never got any traction but the two seem very different to me. what do you i think? >> yeah. i agree. it is apples and oranges. everybody does campaign opposition. there are plenty of democrats and republicans who will say they have taken meetings from folks who said they have dirt on somebody else or comes to them anonymously or whatever, but this is different order of magnitude because it was foreign entity. now apparently donald trump, jr., knew it was coming from a foreign entity. and that puts it in a different basket in addition to the fact that there are all these other allegations about collusion. those are apples and oranges for sure, neil. neil: thank you both very, very much at issue, as both these fine guests pointed out, isn't so much someone forgot a meeting. they went ahead had that meeting.
12:27 pm
that is possible. with whom that meeting was, a russian operative. you can say with ties to the kremlin, not ties to the kremlin. it just doesn't look good. optics don't look good. that is the problem. -- stocks. more after this. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. polident kills 99.99% of odor causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains. so dentures are cleaner, fresher, and brighter. polident.
12:28 pm
with some big news about type 2 diabetes. you have type 2 diabetes, right? yes. so let me ask you this... how does diabetes affect your heart? it doesn't, does it? actually, it does. type 2 diabetes can make you twice as likely to die from a cardiovascular event, like a heart attack or stroke. and with heart disease, your risk is even higher. you didn't know that. no. yeah. but, wait, there's good news for adults who have type 2 diabetes and heart disease. jardiance is the only type 2 diabetes pill with a lifesaving cardiovascular benefit. jardiance is proven to both significantly reduce the chance of dying from a cardiovascular event in adults who have type 2 diabetes and heart disease and lower your a1c. jardiance can cause serious side effects including dehydration. this may cause you to feel dizzy, faint, or lightheaded, or weak upon standing. ketoacidosis is a serious side effect that may be fatal. symptoms include nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, tiredness, and trouble breathing. stop taking jardiance and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of ketoacidosis or an allergic reaction. symptoms of an allergic reaction include rash, swelling,
12:29 pm
and difficulty breathing or swallowing. do not take jardiance if you are on dialysis or have severe kidney problems. other side effects are sudden kidney problems, genital yeast infections, increased bad cholesterol, and urinary tract infections, which may be serious. taking jardiance with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you have any medical conditions. so now that you know all that, what do you think? that it's time to think about jardiance. ask your doctor about jardiance. and get to the heart of what matters.
12:30 pm
potsc(in unison) drive russ, leland, gary: yes. gary: i have a ford f-150. michael: i've always been a ford guy. potsch: then i have a real treat for you today. michael: awesome. potsch: i'm going to show you a next generation pickup. michael: let's do this. potsch: this new truck now has a cornerstep built right into the bumper. gary: super cool. potsch: the bed is made of high-strength steel, which is less susceptible to punctures than aluminum. jim: aluminum is great for a lot of things, but maybe not the bed of a truck. potsch: and best of all, this new truck is actually- gary: (all laughing) oh my... potsch: the current chevy silverado. gary: i'm speechless. gary: this puts my ford truck to shame. james: i'll tell you, i might be a chevy guy now. (laughing)
12:31 pm
neil: all right. look at amazon in the middle of this whole prime day thing. interesting footnote. this is the third amazon prime day where you get things over 30 hour period on special sales. the two pry ones the stock on the day of the sale or. it looks like happening again. it ran up a lot yesterday. nicole petallides at the new york stock exchange with fallout and other traditional retailers. >> third ever prime day and everybody waits to get the bigs
12:32 pm
discounts and like, and stock is down 3/4 of 1%. it has been up 1000 percent over the last decade. it is behemoth for retail stocks. it is up over all 32% this year around has really been the demise of so many retailers just weighing on those retailers across the board. taking a look, i don't mean the death of them, but tough time with the stocks here. taylor brands, that is men's wearhouse, 61%, fossil 61%. this year jcpenney, macy's 40% plus for those two names. amazon continues to weigh. not only type of retail apparel but you how about the supermarkets? after this whole foods deal was announced june 16th. whole foods nice big green arow up 2%. walmart -- 27%. walmart, kroger, costco down. they expect big selling to earn four times the normal daily profit is what the analysts say.
12:33 pm
but, there is talk now from some of the research here that ebay is trying to give it a go today and take on amazon. in fact, according to one report, 2/3 of ebay's stock is already sold out. and they are not showing the signs of slowing down. you can take advantage of some ebay deals which is up a penny today. take a look at this, for example, you can look at this chrome versus the amazon echo and so you do see one versus the other and, we'll see whether or not they can wing it and get those two. the chromecast bundle versus what you see on amazon there. back to you. neil: nicole, thank you very, very much. remember blue apron went public not too long ago, going below the offering price after analysts giving it a $2 a share target. if this rings a bell it should. that is pretty much same thing that haunted snapchat, it was
12:34 pm
downgraded by folks that helped bring it public, morgan stanley at or below its offering price. this is something we've been seeing not consistently, more often than we normally do. back to retail, what is going on here, vera gibson, retail expert. vera, you say dealing with amazon, it is a many son and pretty much everybody else, right? >> right, neil. they are in the defense mode. they are trying to get a leg up, being into the game. extending hours beyond 30, 30 hours or they're doing things like focusing on certain categories a the case of target emphasizing back to school shopping. they're doing everything to capitalize on a day we see a surge in online shopping but we they are in defense mode. neil: walmarts, affecting mom-and-pop operation, they bemoan the presence of this huge giant box retailer coming into
12:35 pm
their neighborhood, i guess amazon is playing the role against huge giant box operators, right? >> we're seeing, excuse me, 5321 stores that closed within the last year. that is around 280% up year-over-year. so that is a lot of stores that have closed off in the last year. neil: what caused that? >> amazon. don't want to say completely about amazon but everyone is starting to shop online. the way the consumer is spending, the paradigm is shifting. but i don't necessarily think that is a bad thing. stores shutting down, means stores are leaner, their inventory is getting more precise. walmart, for example, spent almost two billion dollars figuring out infrastructure online for them for their strategy. so it is just the way the consumer is shopping differently. i don't necessarily think because stores are closing down that is a bad thing. neil: vera, i still drive by malls, never into them if i can avoid it but i still see a lot
12:36 pm
of cars outside. obviously people are he still going to these -- >> we're seeing demise of the malls. neil: is that right. >> they have all the vacancies. crime rates are going up in the areas where malls are closing. they're putting different types of stores in malls all together. they're going food route. doing experience route. doing things completely different to drive traffic. neil: maybe hickory farms kiosks are doing it. i have no idea. i guess you guys don't either. i kid but very good having you. meantime, president trump, forget the latest revelations on his son and emails, he was hit by the media, whole global media, by challenging globalism at the g20 in sync with the the rest of the world. would that be such a big issue, if rest of the world were conservative leaders an american leader were liberal, would they still have that view? just asking. ♪
12:37 pm
12:38 pm
12:39 pm
12:40 pm
12:41 pm
neil: all right. i don't know if anyone reliable you can go on concerning fail the of isis former leader al-baghdadi but we're now getting confirmation from a group fairly reliable in syria that says, yes he is dead. now the russians claimed this about a week ago. we couldn't really verify it. it is a big deal itself. after a big win against isis in mosul, iraq. so president trump is applauding these developments on twitter but right now if you think about it, media not getting a whole lot of attention. president trump meanwhile getting a whole lot more attention over his recent performance at the g20 gathering in europe. members of the u.s. and european press saying he wasn't presidential enough. not towing global lines. not speaking right message. former dnc official jehmu greene.
12:42 pm
welcome to you both of you. nick, the guess president wasn't leading that group. angela merkel was. she is the most cited as most presidential-like. what did you think of that? >> you i never heard so much nonsense is my life, neil. it was very clear who the leader was. it was very clear who was making sure they were putting america first and obviously that is a concept that has become rather unusual, rather uncommon and makes people feel uncomfortable. but i think that president trump did outstanding job representing the united states of america. and if that means that some of the world's media got their knickers in a knot, that is just unfortunate. neil: all right. there is that view. jehmu, you i assume he you agree with everything he just said, so i go to my next question, which had to do with political philosophy of europe which tends to lean left. i don't think you disagree but i'm wondering if all the european leaders were to the right and american president
12:43 pm
came in from the left and he or she wasn't toeing that particular conservative line, i don't think it would get much coverage. what do you think? >> who knows because -- neil: really? because i thought you would. >> that is not the case that we are seeing with president trump right now, and no, i don't agree with what nick said. from the fact that we couldn't even get the names of different world leaders right, their titles asian leaders to the video that was put out by the white house after the g20 summit that looked like something from the 1990s. one of the things that made me so proud to be an american which may not be the right thing to say, anytime that we were on the stage with other world leaders, our president was the boss. walked in there, owning the room. and that is no longer the case. and it is embarrassing, but from a national security standpoint the fact that we did not come
12:44 pm
out of the g20 summit with a strong statement about north korea, and the actions they're taking that is a sign. neil: we did but we're acting alone, isn't that it? the europeans weren't strong enough, we said hell with it we might have to do with on our own. >> he sat down with president putin and could get results there. we didn't see that happen. neil: we got no results on dealing jointly with syria. he got no results dealing jointly with syria. >> well cease-fire in syria that is something we should all be happy about but it is not something that is ground-breaking this is -- neil: fair enough. nick you hear that, jehmu, raised a point, others have, we like to think of our president left or right is kind of leading the show. that can be in the eyes of beholder there, leading that show might be all for show but what do you make of that? u.s. might be stepping back from that role? >> well, neil i can't understand how jehmu could possibly have
12:45 pm
reached the conclusion watching the same footage that i did that president trump, that the leader of free world wasn't the boss there. when i looked at that stage, when i saw that collection, that photograph of word leaders, it looks clear who is the most confident, who is the most out there. we've got donald trump, alpha male, someone who is not politically correct, someone who is says what he wants to say, means what he says, who is getting results. i -- neil: he is alpha male. i get that a lot myself. i'm a alpha male. you i don't even know what it means. whatever it is sometimes not a compliment. jehmu, do you think to his point we judge these things in other ways? the united states is still the most powerful richest country on earth, no matter who is leading us. i know your concerns about the president. that is not lost on anyone. >> we are. we are resilient. we will survive the body language that is the only thing
12:46 pm
that is most important to trump, whether it is from a handshake or if he is pushing leaders to position himself to be in a photo -- neil: you're being petty. you're not a petty person. you're not a petty person. nick can can be a petty person. nick what did you think of what she just said. >> neil, i can't understand how anyone draw conclusion president trump isn't a leader. he has been all of his life been a he had lear. taking options means that he has to lead. so in other words rest of world subscribed to globalism. he is president trump and he -- and all of that. he is definitely leading. might not be the leadership that jehmu wants. might not be the leadership that the sure rin der monkey leaders of the leaders of europe tend to be used to. it is certainly leadership. neil: i put you down maybe on europe. nick and jehmu. thank you very much. >> thank you, neil.
12:47 pm
neil: why is the movie "spider-man" doing so well, defying big budget expectations for movies and chris christie is not. "spider-man" and chris christie, you're he welcome america. >> my friends are up there. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you totanobody's hurt, new car. but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do?
12:48 pm
drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement™, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, we'll replace the full value of your car. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. won't replace the full value of your totaled new car. the guy says you picked the wrong insurance plan.
12:49 pm
no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about replacing your car because you'll get the full value back including depreciation. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
12:50 pm
12:51 pm
>> you know who i am? neil: all right, "spider-man" is out, better than $100 million. my theory on why this movie did so well, unlike a lot of big budget pictures, say, can be said of those that dare to make fun of themselves is they just register on a level that we can laugh. they can be a little irreverent. they can sync themselves. "guardians of the galaxy," two successful movies made a lot of money. actor, comedian, radio show host, joe piscopo, disappointed count les new jerseyians when he decided not to run. that. >> that is okay, i'll tell you. that is all right. neil: what do you make of "spider-man"? i don't know if you saw it? >> no i have a lot of children but i didn't see it. neil: you go to a lot of
12:52 pm
premiers. >> want to talk about self-deprecating humor? i'm on wall street, spielberg is shooting a movie in the lobby. oh, is steven here? they to, yeah, steven is in there. yeah, yes. now anybody else i could have, joe, how are you, how are you doing. hey, steven food to see you again. saw him at "snl," joe, you better do sinatra all right. what spielberg asks i do. i'm a huge fan. do i say hi to him yesterday. no. neil: why not? >> who am i? who am i. i'm a jersey guy. i went to pa. mr. spielberg, joe piscopo is here. she said to me, who? neil: you're a big believer. you never too big for your shoes. made fun of yourself. laughed at yourself. i think the trick with "spider-man" movie, took a different route, much like "guardians of the galaxy" they made fun of themselves. i like that. >> you like "spider-man" more
12:53 pm
than adele. neil: don't go crazy. >> now all you have to look is look at rodney, our dear friend. we talk about. king of self-deprecating humor and was a great writer. tell you, i'll tell you, girl asked me to come over. nobody's home, nobody's home. i went over there, nobody's home. i'll tell you. it is okay. neil: i'm thinking of that, i'm thinking of the success of this movie. and then i'm thinking chris christie. i have a point, but he did the wfan thing. he had rowdy callers. you deal with that yourself. >> yeah. neil: you handle with far greater humor and skill. >> i. >> right. neil: i want you to react and be honest. i didn't think this was nice. >> governor, next time you want to sit on a beach closed to entire world except you. >> yeah. >> you put your fat ass in a car go to one open in all your constituents. >> i love getting calls from communists in montclair.
12:54 pm
>> you're a bully. >> you're swearing on the air, mike. you're a bum. neil: what did you think of that? >> well i thought that the governor handled it the way a talk show host would. neil: in that job. he wants that job. he got it. >> thank you. we talked about it this morning on radio. this is a big station that the governor is on auditioning right? neil: francesa. >> you have to know anything about scots. neil: yeah. >> governor christie knows most about sports. he got challenged of people. i never understood negativity. on my radio show, neil we take high road. joe -- neil: callers don't apparently get the message. >> they're always nice to me. neil: they're very nice. >> very nice to me. neil: christie has few months to go. 15%. a lot of new jerseyians still upset about the beach. what is it that undid him? >> i think at this point after the beach thing he is longing for the days of "bridgegate."
12:55 pm
that is all i remember the george washington bridge. i think it wasn't "bridgegate." it was more this, with respect to a guy -- neil: turn around and zing yourself. works for john kennedy and ronald reagan. >> chris christie, smart fan man, very -- neil: greatest prosecutorial mind in political stage. >> if he turned it around that would have served him better. neil: you think a good bearing on wfan, i think he will, i thought he is very good for that, that he can sort of rebuild his image? >> in politics? no. neil: really? >> i don't think he want to. he wants to make money now. i wish him all the best. wilderness, making money now. >> so true, i go backwards. run for politics. i can't afford it. i can't afford to run. neil: democrats will win landslide in new jersey. >> will you stop? you're so -- neil: she will -- lieutenant
12:56 pm
governor will lose. she even criticized. kim jong-un would -- all right. i want to thank you, my friend. you're the best. one of nice people. you know why he is one of the nicest? he can rip himself. can laugh at himself. word to the wise, try it. just saying. mover after this. copd makes it hard to breathe.
12:57 pm
so to breathe better, i go with anoro. ♪go your own way copd tries to say, "go this way." i say, "i'll go my own way" with anoro. ♪go your own way once-daily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators, that work together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. anoro is not for asthma . it contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. the risk is unknown in copd. anoro won't replace rescue inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition, high blood pressure, glaucoma, prostate, bladder, or urinary problems. these may worsen with anoro. call your doctor if you have ♪go your own way
12:58 pm
get your first prescription free at
12:59 pm
neil: all right. a lot more concerns right now that donald trump jr. might be
1:00 pm
hurting things for his dad and maybe all things trump with a report and e-mails and well, of course, there is the point in the day just a couple of hours ago, not even, when we got wind of those e-mail ands the release out of "the new york times" doing the same. needless to say, it doesn't look good. you know, i've got someone here who's a great lawyer, gregg jarrett, he can detail the legalities of all of this. but ahead of that, connell mcshane on the tick tock that doesn't look, for the time being, very good for team trump. >> reporter: well, we started the day with this new york times story, another one, saying donald trump jr. knew that the russian government was the source of some potentially damaging information about hillary clinton. now don jr. with these e-mails that he's released basically confirms that story. and the exchange between himself and a p.r. guy, a publicist named rob goldstone, with whom he shares a couple of friends. as we read through those
1:01 pm
e-mails, that's part of the background. there were multiple investigations underway into whether the trump campaign colluded with the russian government to help sway the election last year. here now are some of the e-mail excerpts from june 3rd of 2016. goldstone, the publicist, writes: >> reporter: he continues, and many people think this part is important: >> reporter: one more quick interpret, goldstone to trump jr.:
1:02 pm
>> reporter: finally a response, don j. to goldstone: >> reporter: paul manafort, jared kushner both said to be in the meeting as well according to the e-mails. kushner, don jr.'s brother-in-law, manafort, then the campaign chairman. basically, neil, that's where we are. the question now, one of many, is this just another distraction, or does any of this rise to that level of being illegal. back to you. neil: thank you very much, connell. let's go to fox news anchor and lawyer, gregg jarrett. >> it's not a crime to meet with russia or a russian lawyer connected to the government -- neil: each when they're describe -- even when they're describing themselves that way? >> doesn't matter, it's not a crime. neil: it's russia. >> remember the democratic senators who met with sergey
1:03 pm
kislyak and others. both sides often meet with government officials. not a crime. neil: all right. that alone wouldn't even hint at collusion at this point to you. >> collusion is not a crime in a political campaign. it's a crime in antitrust law for price-fing and anti-competitive behavior -- price-fixing and anti-competitive behavior, period. neil: what does that mean? >> if you price fix two businesses -- neil: that part i know. the other part is you're saying it wouldn't be -- >> collusion is not a crime. neil: okay. but a russian entity is telling you, she says no ties to the kremlin, but others are saying possible ties to the kremlin, that they have dirt on the democratic nominee for president of the united states. >> yeah. neil: what part would give gregg jarrett pause? >> all right. there are a couple of statutes to consider. one is conspiring to defraud the government or a government function, that would be, for example, an election.
1:04 pm
but that requires deceit, and there's no evidence of deceit here. an exchange of information is not deceitful. so that statute doesn't apply -- neil: so you're going there knowing full well you're trying to get dirt on someone, they're telling you they have dirt on someone. >> right. you can receive all kinds of information from various sources as long as you're honest about it -- neil: you're a great lawyer and a great person, by the way. >> thank you. neil: but it sets me up for this question. >> right. neil: would you, getting an invite like that, go? >> no, because i'm a lawyer -- neil: leave the lawyer out of it. >> because i've covered campaigns since ronald reagan in 1980, and i know how it might look, and it's bad optics. donald trump -- neil: but you get the information from somebody else who wasn't from russia. >> yeah, i'd probably examine the evidence -- neil: i admire that. >> of course. isn't that what political campaigns are about? positive and negative information? neil: i ask the questions.
1:05 pm
>> full disclosure -- neil: i'm kidding. so where does this go? i think other lawyers have kind of confirmed the approach you're taking, there's a lot to prove there. but it does -- when someone, when you have a client who has said never had a meeting with a russian, don't recall ever meeting with a russian, lo and behold we discover, well, i did have a meeting. furthermore, i set up that meeting. >> right. neil: you know how it feeds this investigatory zeal, right? >> i would tell my client to be honest. neil: really? >> sunshine is the best disinfectant, especially if you have an innocent client and has nothing to hide -- neil: but you know what happens once we get word of this, people are going to ask were there other meetings? >> trump jr. is doing exactly what i would tell him to do if he had nothing to hide. neil: should he have done this earlier, if he knew about it? it's possible -- >> earlier is always better. i can't, i can't explain for him why he didn't disseminate the information earlier. now, he's going to be on hannity --
1:06 pm
neil: powerful people in the campaign. manafort was running it, kushner there. he had company. >> well, kushner's a neophyte when it comes to political campaigns, so is donald trump jr., so is donald trump -- neil: now, it happened at the trump tower, this meeting. >> so what? doesn't matter if it happened at neil cavuto's house. neil: you're being very defensive. [laughter] so it happened there, donald trump was there. wouldn't it begich shoe that maybe the president -- getting issue that maybe the president-elect -- no, he was just the nominee, i'm sorry, if he stopped by and said anything to this woman, would that raise eyebrows? >> sure, it would, but i don't think it happened -- neil: but if it did, would that be a big deal? >> yeah, it probably would be a big deal, the presidential candidate himself -- neil: they can't help not meeting each other, right? it's not that big an office. >> well, first of all, he was, as i understand immaterial that day -- understand it that day, doing a fundraiser for a lunch.
1:07 pm
and whether he was at trump tower smuggles with the meeting -- simultaneous with the meeting, we don't know. it's a pretty big place -- neil: do you know the starbucks there is even more expensive -- >> well, they charge you twice as much as everybody else. neil: they do. they don't like italians. do you get a sense, kidding not withstanding, that there's a drip, drip, drip nature? one of the things i focusedded was how it hit the markets just on the notion that this is going to be a big distraction for an agenda these guys want to see happen. you know how these things legally take on a life of their own, whether they're legal or not. what happens? >> well, look, it hurts his agenda because it distracts. and what the president needs to be doing is utilizing the bully pulpit to get out there and promote health care reform and tax reform and to push the things that americans voted for him. he's not doing that because, you know, there's this distraction.
1:08 pm
but, look, they can turn a corner on this, and donald trump jr -- if he appears on fox news and explains what happened, if he appears before the senate intelligence committee, which he says he's willing to do, and explains what happened -- neil: here's what gives me pause. i'm saying if you said you never talked to someone and now all of a sudden i discover you talked to someone and i know i'm going to hear it from the trump people, you're always a globalist -- i never knew what a globalist was. [laughter] apparently, i am. at first i thought they were talking about anywaysline. >> yeah, or your head. [laughter] neil: but i always find when you lead people to doubt your word -- >> right. neil: -- that's only going to get worse. >> look, it was four months that this meeting occurred before the american public knew anything -- neil: you're right. >> -- officially -- neil: and nothing we can say looks like anyone was
1:09 pm
coordinating or hacking polls or any of the stuff that would have changed the outcome. >> and let me say, by the way, that if the russian lawyer came to the trump team and said, here, here's hacked e-mails from hillary clinton and the dnc, do with it as you may, and they took it and used it, that would be trafficking in stolen goods, and that is a crime. but there's no evidence that that happened -- neil: flip it around. is there a crime, remember the charge about hillary clinton that she was given the questions in advance at a debate. she obviously took those questions or her team did, and they didn't put a flare up to alert anyone to that fact. >> no, that's not a crime. neil: it's not a crime, it's hardball. >> no, it's stupid and it's cheating and it looks bad, and maybe that was one of the many things that contributed to her presidential loss. neil: wow. all right. you're a cruel lawyer. gregg, good seeing you again, my friend. >> sure. neil: thank you very much. we've got economist terry boyar with us. the fact of the matter is when
1:10 pm
people are even mentioning the word impeachment, and as gregg points out each the possibility of collusion even though that legally doesn't connect here, it does cost investors money. and jerry has outlined this brilliantly. >> good to see you, neil. neil: when all the started first appearing, and to gregg's point, we're going back to june when particular meeting happened. but it actually goes, in this case, back to the markets about a year later. he's president of the united states. spell it out. >> yeah. and i think the impeachment thing, the um peachment -- impeachment crusade really got started in may around the firing of james comey. we looked at the data, we looked at google searches for impeachment, when did they spike, and we looked at the london oddsmakers' probability that trump would not finish out his term. the interesting thing that
1:11 pm
probability of impeachment, when that spiked, that coincided with the markets popping out. right after trump gets elected, you get a great bull market. and then the market kind of decelerates around all in this impeachment talk. the probability of impeachment is almost like a proxy for his lack of political capital, for the distraction. so my point is, this is costing us money. now, if the democrats have a smoking gun, then you follow the law and you impeach. but if you don't really have a crime, then they ought to -- to follow the advice of someone a lot wiser than me -- count the cost of what you're doing can. because when markets are getting stymied, it's wad for our pension plans, it's bad for our retirement, it's bad for our college savings. neil: yeah, and can be problematic longer term. maybe they're not worried about that, maybe that's another point. jerry's column is on our site. he spells this out in detail, and it is uncanny what you see going on here.
1:12 pm
but, obviously, every minute we talk about this is, as i always say, you know, a minute we're not talking about these agenda items. now, washington can presumably do a lot of things at once, but you and i know the history is such they don't. so what do you think happens now with just the talk? fueled by the president's son with this meeting he said he never had that now he did have. obviously, he's given trump crickets more ammunition to dig, dig, dig -- critics more ammunition, right? >> yeah. and that means markets are looking at a higher probability that we won't get tax reform this year. and, you know, the worst situation is if you promise i'm going to give you tax cuts next year and you're not going to get them this year, then you know what you do in business? you defer your activity until next year. that's what happened to reagan in '81. we had two really bad years. bush made the same mistake in 2001, and it wasn't until the tax cuts actually got implemented in 2002 that the markets and the economy -- neil: well, i have serious
1:13 pm
doubts if they don't get them done this year, they're not going to get done at all the way they're slip sliding away on this. >> yeah. neil: do you think the way it's going right now that the effect of talking impeachment, even if it never comes to that -- and i don't think it will, but what do i know -- you can stymy an agenda, and that's what this is all about. and some of your friends can be shaken away. they could feel, gee, i don't want to do anything for this guy or with this guy because he's kryptonite. >> yeah, exactly. so members of congress distance themselves from him. the other thing is it takes energy away from something else. you know, when reagan did his tax cut, he worked closely with the congress. the president drove the agenda. bush, he drove the agenda. bill clinton, with his agenda when he first came into office, he drove the agenda. only a president is big enough to drive a legislative agenda -- neil: but this president isn't driving that agenda. they still don't know how he feels on some of these key aspects of tax reform, even how
1:14 pm
low the corporate rate should go or, for that matter, whether the rich should get a tax cut at all. >> yeah. the president basically has a relationship with his own party in congress where he triangulates with them and, you know, maybe we shouldn't have this tax cut, maybe we ought to keep taxes high for the wealthy and all the rest of it. he creates uncertainty in his own party. i don't want to come off as though i'm blaming the dems. a couple of weeks ago you did a monologue where you said, mr. president, you're bringing this on yourself. i was proud of you for that. i think that's true. the president has created the ammunition that's being used to stymy his agenda. he needs to grow up and grow into this office. neil: and i wondered, jerry, when he tweeted out: i cannot imagine that congress would dare to leave washington without a beautiful new health care bill, fully approved and ready to go. now, that sounds like a threat, and maybe it's, you know, jawboning on the part of the leader of the free world, pressuring, you know, his pa party to go along. -- his party to go along. but he doesn't have a great
1:15 pm
track record standing by his party. >> right. neil: he does have more of a record throwing them you should the bus if there are -- under the bus if there are problems. now, it's human nature to do that, but i don't remember ronald reagan doing that. >> no. and, you know, applying pressure without presence doesn't really work. you've got to be there. he's got to go to congress, he's got to spend time with members of congress. that's what every other president has done who has been legislatively successful. i've never seen a president in american history who got his agenda through the legislature by taking shots at his own ally and changing opinions from week to week. he's got to lead this effort. he's got to get off the twitter, he's got to grow into the office. look, he's got to make a decision, is he going to be a sampson who pulls the temple down or a solomon who builds the temple up? is he going to be a builder or a critic who stands outside the system throwing rocks at it. we need him to grow into the president that we need him to be. neil: and we also need him to take the responsibility for something. john kennedy after the bay of
1:16 pm
pigses, he took the blame for that. now, ronald reagan with the initial trouble that he had with getting tax cuts through, he took the blame for the slow approach. what was deemed as the slow approach, to your point, at the time. but he took the blame. there is a difference. >> yeah. true leaders have to suffer, to some degree, for their people. kennedy said success has many fathers but failure's an orphan. neil: yeah. >> look, i'm a republican, maybe they'lling call me a globalist too, but the president is kind of blowing a great opportunity here by not being really presidential. i don't mean presidential like all the other -- neil: no, i know what you're saying. >> but he needs wisdom. he needs self-restraint and he needs focus. neil: yeah. it does help to blame certain things on other people. like this weight thing with me, jerry, it's a thyroid issue. i don't have time -- >> cannoli are priced too cheap. it's entrapment. neil: it is.
1:17 pm
i'm going after them bigtime. jerry, so good seeing you. please read his column, it is brilliant. it spells out, whether you're right or left -- it's going to get you annoyed, but it is uncannily press yet about some of the developments that happened in the past and what they could mean in the future. we'll have more right after this.
1:18 pm
1:19 pm
1:20 pm
1:21 pm
neil: all right. this guy practically lives up there, vice president pence, he's on capitol hill as we speak. senate republicans are aiming to get a health care measure out by next week, go ahead and vote on it by next week, and there could be up to 100 amendments they bat back and forth. talk about crazy times. will that do anything to move votes, including the ten republicans we're told aren't really keen on things the way they stand right now? let's go to adam shapiro in washington with the latest. hey, adam. >> reporter: and let's take a live look at the senate because, you know, the republican leadership is meeting with senate republicans right now to talk about what is happening with the better care reconciliation act. this is, as mitch mcconnell has indicated to different people, coming to the foremost likely next week. but in some kind of new form. it will either include the revisions, the amendments like ted cruz's amendment as well as more money for opioid addiction treatment, that's something senator rob portman wanted.
1:22 pm
but is it enough? and you can sense from the republicans in the senate that they're growing impatient. they want to act whether it's a yes or no, no matter what is in play. in fact, listen to what senator kennedy from louisiana said just roughly 40 minutes ago. >> it's time to vote. just put it out there, let people offer amendments. let's, let's just hit it head on. it's not going to, it's not going to get any less complex. the affordable care act is not going to get any better. the bill's changing by the minute. we'll learn more about it today at lunch. but, you know, there comes a time you've got to fish or cut bait. >> reporter: and that lunch is taking place right now at roughly 2:00 they're going to move to what's called the ohio clock just outside the senate chamber, and we will get a brief as to where we stand on whatever is the legislation being handed over to cbo for a score and then possibly an introduction next week for a vote in the senate.
1:23 pm
now, there's one other thing. senator lindsey graham has indicated that in the next 24-48 hours he's going to let us know the details of what could be a plan that might save somehow a portion of repeal and replace of obamacare. but the key here is it might be working with democrats. and we already know that did not go over well when mitch mcconnell suggested that over the july 4th recess. so all eyes on 2:00, the ohio clock as well, to find out what the republicans have in store and when this thing comes to a vote. neil in. neil: but, adam, the understanding being with all these constant amendments and rapid-fire let's get things moving, is it really going to move the needle on the number of republicans who are, right now, against being for? >> reporter: that is the key question. for instance, just to give you -- susan collins, forget it. she's most likely not going to support what they're doing, so that leaves you only one. heller out of nevada said he can get to yes, but you've got to adopt the cruz amendment. the problem with the cruz amendment is it could drive up premiums for senior citizens who
1:24 pm
are buying health insurance. so this is a balancing act. no one should envy mitch mcconnell, he's turning into wayne brady and playing "let's make a deal." this is not easy. neil: thank you very much, adam shapiro, in washington. all right, there is this lengthy to-do list, but senator ted cruz is now urging, as he has pretty consistently, just work through the recess, work weekendses, let's get stuff done. we have got former paul ryan chief of staff, david hop by and patrice -- [inaudible] how likely is it, i must be getting old because i remember hearing this a lot under different congresses, different parties, work through the recess. they never do. [laughter] >> well, i mean, this has gone from a friday my idea to something that's really palatable given they're not just dealing with repeal and replace of obamacare, but the budget -- the 2018 budget as well as the debt ceiling as well as tax reform. so there are a lot of things that need to -- neil: do you think they're going
1:25 pm
to work new -- because i think these guys would sooner lose their seat than lose their vacation. >> well, if they go home without having anything to show for the time, for the seven months they've been in washington, i think their constituents are going to be -- neil: no, no, i agree with you. history begs otherwise. david, what happens here? i mean, obviously, they have a lot to do. the timeline is tough, but what do you think? >> i think there's a couple of things they have to get done. in the senate there has to be some decision moving forward one way or the other on health care. in the house, they've got a couple of things they really have to look at. number one is to finish the fy-18 budget so they can start the process which will get us to tax reform. second one is a lot of republican members of the house would like to start the appropriations process through a cr omnibus bill that they would start the process on and pass that before they go home for the august recess. could i see a postponement of a week, a couple of weeks to get some of these things done?
1:26 pm
i think that's likely. but there is an importance to to members going back to their states and talking to people about what they've done. and they need some time for that. i could see given the needs to get some of these things moving that that's the first thing they would try and do, try and get those things done. if it takes an extra week or two weeks, they would possibly do that. do people like it? no. is it necessary? it may be necessary this year. it rarely is, but we'll have to see, but that's a decision that, ultimately, the membership will make as a group. neil: patrice, obviously, you can go back home to find out how annoyed your constituents are, or you can flip through all the various news channels here. i think that can be in the eyes of the beholder. but if they do stay even a week or two to iron out some of these things, like the debt thing could be a big deal, but obviously some of them are trying to rally around something on the health care front. if they don't get that addressed and they have to put it off and move on to tax cut cans, how will that go down? >> oh, it's going to be a bloody massacre when they go home.
1:27 pm
i mean, you're going to have people saying we've put you in office. it's been how many election cycles you've been telling us about repealing obamacare, and you haven't delivered on that. it doesn't bode well for the rest of the administration's agenda given that we have a republican house, republican senate and republican president. if you can't get this basic thing done, what can you get done? and, you know, by the way, this is not unprecedented. we saw that the civil war, world war i and ii, even hurricane katrina, congress did stay, worked through the summer to get some -- neil: well, not the whole summer, to david's point. you're quite right, there is precedent for this. but, david, let's say they don't get their agenda done this year, the tax cuts and the health care fix next year, i would imagine that is still going to be bad for republicans. and won't be better than never. of. >> the policy accomplishments are the primary thing. neil: right. >> that's what you have to get done. now, the sooner, the better. the better for the economy, the better for growth, for jobs, the better to straighten out the
1:28 pm
health care mess that we have growing in the united states. neil: right. >> but if they are not successful in getting this particular health care plan are done, that's not going to be the end of the work they're going to do on health care. i think taxes and the budget may start moving ahead of health care, but they will continue to work on it in this congress. and i think they will achieve some of these. but policy goals and achieving those policy goals are the highest priority for, obviously, the president but also senator mcconnell and speaker ryan. neil: yeah. they need to show something. >> they need to do it to help fix, to support republicans because that will be good for the economy, that will be good for people's health care, that will be good for the united states. neil: and it'll be good for the markets. guys, thank you both very much. speaking of the markets, we're down all of 11 points. so if they're really concerned about everything going kablooey, so far they're not showing it. what if i told you all of this could be interrupted by a government shutdown and all over border funding? congressman mark meadows on that on "your world," 4 p.m. eastern time today, to explain.
1:29 pm
♪ we're on to you, diabetes. time's up, insufficient prenatal care. and administrative paperwork... your days of drowning people are numbered. same goes for you, budget overruns. and rising costs, wipe that smile off your face. we're coming for you, too. for those who won't rest until the world is healthier, neither will we. optum. how well gets done. ..
1:30 pm
♪ whoa that's amazing... hey, i'm the internet! i know a bunch of people who would love that. the internet loves what you're doing... build a better website in under an hour with... ...gocentral from godaddy. type in your idea. select from designs tailored just for you and publish your site with just a few clicks-even from your... phone. the internet is waiting start for free today at godaddy.
1:31 pm
1:32 pm
1:33 pm
neil: all right, you know who returns to the political prey on thursday, though he has made some political comments, the president of the united states, the last one, barack obama will be in washington providing first-in key democrats and guidance on what he says, obviously gets outside of that room although everyone is sworn to secrecy. do do not let where did this get out, although it always gets out. radio talkshow host, cholla caldwell. i had a pretty good idea. he has an agenda being ripped apart by his successor. still, george bush was also have an agenda ripped apart by his successor and chose not to say much. fans on both sides could argue the pros and cons. what do you think barack obama will probably due on thursday?
1:34 pm
>> well, i mean, he won't say it's george bush's fault, which is famously known for same. obviously it will be an attack on the president. this is where it becomes problematic for the democratic party. they continue to allow folks like president barack obama who under his tenure in 2010 when they thought republicans can about some legislative seats have been up until now. republicans continue to win because they allow people like hillary clinton and president obama to come and represent them. but they continue to forget or not realize they're not accept the reality of this trump only won because he had a message that resonated with these working-class voters, which they forgot and left out in the cold. this is my issue, neil, and i'm sure some of the listeners or viewers will take note to this. i am kind of disturbed by this. as a republican, we continue to win and i am concerned that we may say forget it. we don't have to really work as hard for the american people
1:35 pm
because the other guys will continue losing. we need a strong challenge to the republican party so we can continue to work hard for the american people at every turn. health care and financial reform or tax reform, people are falling back and that's kind of disturbing to me. neil: you are not saying republicans are getting too? >> i'm not saying that now. the potential -- they are imploding. have you seen the other guys? >> would he make of that? >> i totally disagree. and this course particularly because president obama was popular -- no one else's. he was only popular winning his own races. >> no question. here's the deal. president obama like everyone else has the right to
1:36 pm
participate in politics. he's great at raising funds. he's great at being popular in bringing people, young people to the party. president trump won the electoral college. i think the republicans are very susceptible kid on the exact point john brought up, health care isn't done. that's the premise that was made. neil: are you concerned democrats will go or be annoyed at george bush had done that to barack obama, he didn't. they could understand the frustrations he could've afforded the same respect in this president and they say he didn't. >> yeah, while president bush went off and had a whole different life after his president. he led a very interesting and said i've never done with politics. i don't think that's a respect issue. i think president obama has an investment in the politics.
1:37 pm
>> this president and much of a barack obama built. the lasting barack obama wants to see is this program go away or to see barack obama sees it. i can understand getting involved. he just doesn't know when to stop. he keeps doing it. >> this is the thing time and the american people have rejected the premise of some of his accomplishments. look at obamacare. >> how many people want to see it repealed and replaced with something better. i guess it is particularly popular. when we look at the numbers and we saw how much the cost of 31 million people it was supposed to cover and it would cost about $800 billion. neil: there could be a lot of trouble if there's more bipartisan because they didn't repealed this thing.
1:38 pm
>> no, they're not. this is another issue. we can get the act together and push forward president trump's agenda. we should be -- >> we will see what happens. at the same time, democrats are continuing their losing winning streak. neil: way too early to tell. i want to thank you both very, very much. the irs generally is the case. a mom and pop restaurant in texas gets a little weary. all the details. >> it's not a republican or democrat issue. you know, they say don't mess with the irs. they could seize your stuff. in fact, they can seize your stuff. usually they have to wait 10 days before they sell it unless it's perishable. so i ask you, wedding dresses, perishable or nonperishable?
1:39 pm
the irs says they are perishable. the bridle and garland, texas owned by an elderly thai couple that integrated in 1983 had a thriving business down in texas. they got behind on their taxes in the irs showed up one day and said you know what common it isn't worth very much and we think it's perishable. it costs more to store than to say. the irs sold it all in one day in some of the agents bought the cheap dresses, dresses they said were worth about $6000 if they got about 17,000 for it. here is their complaint they are now suing says. the irs used its inventory value of six and a $15,000, they would've had no potential bases to conduct the perishable good t-shirt battle and would be required to connect a normal seizure and sale. the entire process is unlawful. that says their lawsuit and tax attorneys independent once they contact. listen.
1:40 pm
>> who in this world believes closing his perishable? that is just pure common sense. i don't believe there is any judge in this country that would believe the clothing is on the same level as food that would spoil within days if it were not liquidated. reporter: you may have seen the suits are considered perishable in terms of style. i don't know how you size this one not. the couple is now suing the irs, lost their life savings and coming in outcome i guess it's not just conservative groups that get targeted. sometimes it's just regular old folks trying to make a buck. neil: and credible was your comment on a census data, but that's fine. i'll let it go. thank you very much. we been hearing in advocating on the show, mitch mcconnell now putting pen to paper and the commitment to keep the senate in session for the first two weeks of august. you're welcome, america.
1:41 pm
1:42 pm
1:43 pm
1:44 pm
1:45 pm
neil: all right, for those of you demanding congress and do the job, even if it means taking away some vacation, has come up a lot on the show and others. i do want to take credit for this, but i'm going to take credit for this. we just heard mitch mcconnell say the four-week august recess is down to two weeks. he's going to delayed at least two weeks. the first two weeks in august they are there presumably to get this stuff done. ceo john tatum, would you think of all of this? >> neil, thank god for you driving this country because you are right. these guys don't deserve her recess. recess is a reward and you've got a pitcher homework done done before you have recess. growing up in grade school, they haven't passed any health care progress. they haven't done anything on taxes than they are not exactly popular when they get home if you've noticed recently.
1:46 pm
they may assault day in d.c. and get to work. neil: how much do you think of that agenda will they get done? the health care thing they will start sorting out this week when they pick up 100 amendments in rapidfire fashion, one after the other to presumably, you know, get support their, where we have 10 known republicans who are keen on it. can they whittle that down to two that would keep it just about what they need to get this done? >> well, i hope so. this is the disappointing thing. all of these folks have already started in reelection mode, so they are working on their individual brands, individual positions and posturing instead of coming together. we've got 52 republicans in the senate. he should be pretty easy to get together and let's come up with one plan. if we don't have a plan, we all fail. they are going to not be in the majority if they don't get their
1:47 pm
act together. neil: they've got to do something. it's interesting mitch mcconnell says in order to provide more time on important legislative items and process nominees stalled by lack of cooperation from friends across the aisle, the senate will delay the start of the recess until the third week of august. this would compel democrats to stick around as well. how do you think all of that is going to go? >> well, i can't imagine the people that are upset over a lack of where we are with health care, whether we fix the current system will be completely repeal and replace the current system. i can't imagine people in nancy pelosi's district aren't upset with her. this is a failure of 500 or the five individuals that live in washington d.c., that they can't come up with some basic common ground to move this country
1:48 pm
forward. i hope that come reelection time in 28 team that every incumbent gets defeated. i don't care if it's republican or democrat, but you are not going to drain the swamp if we keep sending the same creatures back to d.c. >> that is well put. john tatum. either way, this turnaround on senate leadership to go ahead and stay in august for the first two weeks in august of what was a one-month recess did turn the towel around with 18 points. how long that lasts, anyone's guess. for the time being, seems to be better than if they hadn't done it. your insurance company
1:49 pm
1:50 pm
1:51 pm
won't replace the full value of your totaled new car. the guy says you picked the wrong insurance plan. no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about replacing your car because you'll get the full value back including depreciation. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
1:52 pm
neil: all right, the senate is working on its own plan on health care to come out later this week. we are getting word at her friend from "the wall street journal" that that will include the high prices on high income households, 3.8% surtax on net investment income in the 0.9% medicare payroll tax that both of those would stay in there. we didn't get any indication or how long does it apply to individuals with more than $200,000 a year and more than $250,000 a year. the house measure removes all taxes, including those on the
1:53 pm
upper income. obviously some big differences there. the appeal to win over moderates will buy the same token probably alienate conservatives who will say no way. we will see what happens there. the isis leader abu dhabi was indeed killed as the russian said he was last week or the former deputy undersecretary of defense jeff abbott, assuming it is true that he is dead a lot of people prematurely jump for joy when we have learned that these carrot tears come out of the woodwork. what are we to make of this? >> not a whole lot. i think it's good if he said. it's good if any of these guys get killed or the fact of the matter is he said another leader will arise fast or quite frankly changed the brand. it would be isis one day and they really need to get after these guys have the whole, drive them out of their holes and frankly take on their ideology. we talked about that many times
1:54 pm
you're the only way to defeat them. neil: in the meantime, jointly doing things with the russians crashing into each other on the airspace. that was one of the few production developments in the g20 gathering. but you make of that? will it work? >> there's the rules of the road agreement covering naval ships that is still in place. it's been in place for 50 or 60 years. he can work it will work if the russians want to cooperate. the only issue is how long are we going to be there? not that long after raqqa falls. neil: you know, a lot of those only to discover it pops up somewhere else or reimpose is a stronghold somewhere else. very, very hard to make this across the board. >> well, it's very hard.
1:55 pm
you and i talked about over the years unless we attack ideology, you're never going to win. there'll be one brand name and then another and then another. you see that with al qaeda comes back, goes off, up and down. these guys change names like a black market muffler shop. so it is not exactly the kind of thing we should celebrate too much. again, the issue is how do we really defeat them in the answer is we are not on the road yet. neil: what would you recommend? >> we need to undertake an ideological war which they've been fighting against us since 1976. we have to do things to take on the ideology. it has to come from the president. it has to come from all of our leaders. to the extent we are going to be insulting people, let's have at it. we had ideology expressed in our constitution that is completely superior to theirs. what do we offer? asperity, freedom, freedom of
1:56 pm
speech. they offer a suicide, poverty, who's got a better deal? we need to say that at the top of our lungs. neil: well put, my friend. we will see what it will be. the fallout from just hearing word that the republicans aren't landing the were part of the august recess, at least the first half of it. one month off, they work the first two weeks and see what they can get done. imagine if they don't get anything done. after this. before i had the shooting, burning of diabetic nerve pain these feet... liked to style my dog as a kid... and were pumped to open my own salon. but i couldn't bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. so i talked to my doctor and she prescribed lyrica. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions, suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these,
1:57 pm
new or worse depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, . . . .
1:58 pm
1:59 pm
2:00 pm
neil: what house freedom caucus chair mark meadows thinks of the filling in august. trish regan filling in left and right, doing her own show. trish: good to have you back neil, on many levels. republican leaders expected to give remarks on status of health care plan. mitch mcconnell announced moments ago, the senate will delay start of august recess until the their week in august in order to work on health care. they will stick around extra couple weeks. market like the idea. after been having lower lower perhaps because the president's son donald, jr., released emails


info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on