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liz: neil cavuto will probably wear those. ashley: you know who is somewhere on cape cod wearing his 3-d glasses, stuart varney. total eclipse of start varney. we're getting silly. to our good friend, haven't seen for ages, great to see him, neil cavuto. neil: just catching images of stuart varney, by the way. he is at a clothing-optional beach. which i understand. oh, man. thank you very, very much. ashley: thank you. neil: we are keeping an eye on all of this. i do want to thank my buddies connell mcshane, david asman, maria bartiromo, gerri willis, filling in when i was out. nothing says love spending a couple hours subbing on a show you don't even do like that. so i want to thank them. we're also getting ready to hear from the president of the united states later on tonight addressing the nation on beefing up, we're told our troop commitment in afghanistan. remember the president already committed 3900 additional troops
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to the region but his defense secretary mattis has not committed them to the region yet without getting a sense of fuller policy on what we're going to do there, even in the pacific, both which will be outlined by his commander-in-chief tonight. our coverage, 8:00 p.m. eastern time. president's address 9:00 p.m., reaction, markets and otherwise to all of that. off just a couple of days and they're putting me to work all day. that is okay. i'm here for you, america. i did want to leave you with that image of stuart varney on clothing-optional beach. because that is how i roll. stuart is missing, is missing this big eclipse of the sun. he remembers the one in 1979. the last big one he covered was in 1898. that up with incorporate ad lot more people. we should say, people in the new york area will only get what they call a partial eclipse, but it is still significant, right? 3/4 of the sun will be blocked
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out that will be like dusk to a lot of people. imagine if you had no idea this was happening. all of sudden like animals go nuts. they have no idea what is going on. that is why we humans are on top of the food chain. different how this rolls out, how different species react, how we react. a lot of different traffic jams. disappointment along the course, a lot of people are getting a lot of rain. can you imagine you traveled that far to get within this 14-state stripe that will affect and get the total eclipse and get rained out? is that not like the old monty python, great day for an eclipse and you hear the thunder? you and i can imagine that we have "washington examiner," sarah westwood, former bush 43 deputy assistant, brad blakeman and doug wead, a historian. doug, i was thinking last time we saw something like this in
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the united states, an eclipse of this magnitude, 1979, the eclipse we saw that earlier that year tend to portend an awful year for the markets for jimmy carter, for the economy, for everything. doesn't always work out that way but it does make you think what it can lead to, doesn't it? >> it sure does. i want to know this, neil, would i need dark glasses or would i go blind looking at stuart varney? neil: i had the same reaction. he had glasses on the beach just in case. >> yeah. a presidential address doesn't guarranty success. richard nixon gave 37 presidential addresses televised from the white house, not all from the oval office leading up to the final one he gave before he left office. so there is no guarranties that a presidential address will turn things around. neil: on this, we talk about the eclipse, i mean, it is always dicey predict fallout from astronomical event or in this case a political one.
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the president is doing something we're told, sarah westwood, he has been dragging kicking and screaming, because he was not a fan of our involvement early on in afghanistan saying it dragged on too long. he is inheriting a mess and criticized republican and democratic predecessors as a result but seems to be that he like barack obama before him, is grudgingly going to have to or will be inclined to support more troops there. what do you make of that? >> some people could see this as a contradiction of what he laid out during the campaign which was a withdrawal from areas of the world where u.s. involvement has dragged on for a long time and produced very few results. steve bannon was said to have been very opposed to this internally. it was one of many sources of conflict between bannon and national security advisor h.r. mcmaster who was said to be very in favor of some kind of a troop surge in afghanistan. but we do know president trump delegated a lot of authority to
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the pentagon and specifically to defense secretary jim mattis making this decision. something that the obama white house did not do. they tried to control military decisions pretty tightly. so a lot of this is coming from president trump's own pentagon advising him this is one of the only ways to keep the situation from worsening. neil: you know, as far as i understand, brad, the goal here is to avoid isis or terrorist-like groups getting a base and just using that as their sort of central office to launch attacks elsewhere. even though we're mixing our terrorist groups. this was early on about getting rid of the taliban. now of course they're concerned about a growing isis influence there. but it seems like we come to these conclusions later rather than sooner, despite generals like mattis who had said, this isn't going away. terrorist threat is not going away. he was told to the president
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look at the region by totality, not country by country. what does that mean? >> we have to make sure we have a policy meets the current situation and the future. we had many presidents over 16 years dealing with afghanistan of the good news donald trump is listening to his military advisors. he learned from history what barack obama did in iraq, a precipitous withdrawal. huge swaths we were able to capture in iraq were taken over by isis. we have to not only contain them but kill them and kill them in regions where they are and not let them proliferate, not only afghanistan but beyond the borders, certainly not harm our interests or allies interest. donald trump is taking advice of his commanders, hopefully tonight he will lay out a plan why we're there and why we need stepped up presence in afghanistan. neil: these are often no-win situations for presidents, doug, as reminded me in the past, on popular wars, even though afghanistan isn't comparable to
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vietnam, when we talk about building up commitment or new offensive or anything like that, americans wonder like why? and is it worth it? what does the president have to spell out presuming that he is going to go that route to make this palatable? >> yeah. well i think north korea will factor in there, neil. we haven't talked about that. americans understand that. there is a gut reaction to that. neil: we should stress, doug, you know this as well, north korea will be a part of the discussion by the president tonight. >> that's right. this is a crisis that can't be avoided. in 1958 we had the sighs enhower crisis, 1962 cuban missile crisis this is equal. this is potential threat for the world so i think americans will understand. kirk guard said you can only gnat life looking backwards but must be lived forward.
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you can understand backwards why they wanted to move steve bannon before the speech and not after and understand a little better moves white house is making. neil: i see what you're making about timing being everything, speaking of steve bannon, sarah, i want to raise this with you, already taking shots at the president, saying he has most divided administration in history. what do you make of that. >> there were things bannon was unhappy in terms of the administration, north korea, syria, gop legislative agenda. a lot of those disputes were taking place behind closed doors. now that steve bannon sun shackled from restrictions coming with working in government, we can expect him to see him do bat well trump over what he sees as departure from the trump campaign platform. there were obviously a lot of internal clashes with bannon. we've been reading about them and hearing about them for months with ivanka trump, with reince priebus, in the initial days of the administration, with jared kushner and
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h.r. mcmaster at the end. bannon has always tried to keep president trump close to literal interpretation of his campaign promises as possible. when president trump strays from those i think you will see bannon go after trump. neil: brad blakeman, when you hear what is at stake for the president tonight, many say way beyond foreign policy that he has to get some gravitas back. last time he speak in public venue, his address to congress in january. this is a chance for him to re-establish the commander-in-chief and set priorities, maybe make people forget about some of the things that turned over the last week that resulted in one of the worst market weeks we've seen, certainly going back to may. what do you make of what is at stake here? way beyond what he is talking about when it comes to afghanistan and north korea. >> this is a big night for donald trump. he needs to be reassuring but also has to be commanding. he has to lay out clear, concise
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language why we're doing this in afghanistan. why north korea needs to be dealt with in the way that they need to be dealt with, peace through strength and not cowering to a dictator. and president has to be reassuring to the american people at the same time. anytime the president commits troops in harm's way, the president is the one, and only one who can do that but he has to explain to the american people why he is doing it. and donald trump has played it very close to the vest, which i think is a great idea, not telegraphing to our enemy what is we're actually doing which is something i think now, tomorrow, our commanders and generals need to step up and echo the president's remarks tonight. neil: do you have any doubts, doug wead, that the president can deliver the goods here? normally a foreign policy speech or talking about committing our troops, you know, tends to make people, you know, boost what you're talking about or support what you're boosting. do you think that this will have that effect on this president?
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>> yes. i think he should get a bump from this. you know, he gives a great speech in saudi arabia, back-to-back in israel, and the speech you mentioned to the joint session. he knows how to give a good speech. the question is, will he dilute it with a tweet? if he can give that speech, i would like him to be a bit reaganesque. i hate to give advice because i see all the idiots on tv giving trump advice and they couldn't get elected dog catcher, but i would like to see him give a great speech as he does, and not dilute it with a tweet. let it sit for a day or two. because they have been powerful speeches. neil: guys, thank you all very, very much. we'll keep following that. we'll also be looking at the stars here or our favorite star, the sun, which is going to get blocked by our moon across much of the united states. first time people have seen something like this in full throttle, full eclipse view in better part of four decades, close to four decades this is
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already happening now in oregon where they will see a total eclipse and will continue on down for next couple hours, at least the next four hours, if you include the northeast, that will see partial eclipse, that will affect better than 70 million americans. we'll see it in one way, shape or form. there they have just removed the sun entirely in oregon. they can do that there. that is the way they roll. the solar eclipse sunday way. we're looking at this versus 1979. that was a very volatile year for markets and economy. jimmy carter in charge back then. the markets went into this free fall briefly in a year when we had the second energy crisis. remember long lines waiting for cars, carried off into 1980, got ronald reagan elected and jimmy carter beaten in landslide defeat. there was a point dow jones industrials peaked at 898 on the 5th of october, 1979.
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fell to 808, or 10% correction in just next 2 1/2 weeks. later things stablized. we ended up with a minor gain on the year but volatility was to come might have been presaged in a eclipse started at beginning of the year, we would have no energy crisis. jimmy carter looked like he would be easily elected. the economy would be just okay, more than okay. ronald reagan his chance of becoming president, according to articles at the time, next to zero. zero for three. more after this. don't let dust and allergens get between you and life's beautiful moments. switch to flonase allergy relief. flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing 6 key inflammatory substances
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we're going first with connell and the glasses. we haven't broached it with connell but these are normal sunglasses and will not protect him from the dangerous rays that will come from the sun's corona. go ahead. connell what are you doing first of all. >> reporter: very good question, neil. another thing we paid a lot of money the sunglasses, eclipse glass glass. someone told me they're 30 cents to make and seven bucks a pop to get. they are legit glasses. i can't see two feet in front of me. i have no idea whether the camera is two feet in front of me or up here or here. when i look up i have a beautiful shot of the sun. you talk about the eclipse beginning out west. we'll start to see the moon move in front of the sun. that is at 1:23 p.m. eastern. that is little over an hour from now. by 2.44, not like jeff in the
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path of totality, we'll be 70% eclipped here. it will get a bit darker in manhattan. i would think, neil, capital of cynicism is there is no interest in this. but the opposite is true. at museum of natural history there is a line at the hayden planetarium. they will have a huge viewing party. i'm sure, somebody ran numbers at challenger gray, a lot of these people are supposed to be at work. they said the country is losing like $700 million in productivity. some of that has to be here in new york. people are pretty excited about this. i throw it back to you. you're over there somewhere. neil: i wonder what the glass-stegall, do they put construction paper on them? nothing there. thank you, buddy, very, very much. we will be going back to him. jeff flock in the path of totality, from illinois!
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>> reporter: if you were out here, neil, you would pass out. it is about 90 degrees. bright sunshine which is actually good news. by the way, my glasses rainbow symphony, inc., california, american made eclipse glasses, as connell points out, if you put them on, you see burning sun which is wonderful. we're 30 minutes away from the start of the eclipse beginning here. tell you the stadium is beginning to fill up. we have 14,000 people will be in here. these folks came from, where did you come from? >> buffalo, new york. >> reporter: why the heck are you here? >> we were here to see branson. we knew this was the number one place to be so here we are. >> reporter: once you seen branson the eclipse is nothing? >> no, no the eclipse is better. >> reporter: very good. we'll get two minutes and 35 seconds of totality. we're clearly blocking the sun, i don't know if laurie can look up, not into the sun but the
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sky, you can see, neil, pretty blue. very few high clouds up there. and, that is just almost perfect eclipse viewing weather. and they get presentation going on here it is a carnival atmosphere. everybody is excited to be here. are you excited to be here, young man? >> i'm excited to be here. this is once in a lifetime opportunity. >> reporter: everybody is excited. i wish it was cooler. you know, global cooling will occur in about hour 1/2 in carbondale, illinois. neil: thank you, my friend, very, very much. in the path of totality, which by the way refers to the regions of the country, there will be a total eclipse. in other words the sun entirely blocked out for a number of minutes. this covers 70 miles, passes through 14 states. by comparison in the first total eclipse on american soil, that was in 1991, that was visible
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pretty much on the big island of hawaii. that was it. then in 79, the one prior to that, largely in a few northwestern states. this one is a big one. in oregon they're getting ready for totality of it all, the fact of the matter this cover as much wider area. neil: the widest in recent american recorded history. other swaths of the planet have affecting far more people have been felt but in the u.s. of a, which makes it so consequential, if this were happening say in south luxembourg we wouldn't be paying attention, but it is not, is it? it is happening here. take pride in it. this sureour eclipse. not really, it is in a lot of other country as well but it is big here. all of this occurring at same time we get senate leader mitch mcconnell and treasury secretary steve mnuchin addressing tax reform. they're going to be taking some questions pretty soon.
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mnuchin has had to defend the president's remarks deemed against jews. he says that he is proud jewish-american. took no offense from anything the president said. gary cohn, president's national economic advisor has been largely silent on this he hasn't left the administration. there were talks of the treasury secretary all mamater urging him to leave, to quit, call it a day. he said he will not do that. he will spell out with mitch mcconnell a plan to keep tax cuts on to raise the debt ceiling with no strings attached to that all easier said than done. anything is possible and anything can happen in the brief minutes you have the moon blocking the sun. hope springs eternal. more after this. ♪
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if you want help improving your a1c and blood sugar, activate your within. ask your doctor about once-weekly trulicity. neil: all right. following an eclipse and also following this. treasury secretary of united states steve mnuchin is speaking on tax reform. he is in kentucky. he will be there with the senior senator from kentucky, mitch mcconnell. all of this to try to take
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attention off some of the controversies around his boss, president of the united states and to say the agenda is still on. he want a clean debt limit increase without any provisos or other things attached to it, just like every treasury secretary seems before him of both parties, and he might spell out what he and the congress can do to get tax cuts everyone wants to see, but increasingly looks like they won't see, at least soon. blake burman has latest on all the developments. hey, blake. >> reporter: hi, neil a bit of pressure put on treasury secretary steve mnuchin by his colleagues from yale from the 1985 graduating class of yale. 320 members at the time who agreed to, signed on to a letter that told the treasury secretary to resign because of the comments made and response from the president to charlottesville. when i spoke to the person who spearheaded this letter last week, kind of had the feeling maybe this might go nowhere, indeed steve mnuchin responded to that letter over the weekend saying that he condemns the
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violence that was taking place in charlottesville and not only did he defend the president in his response but also kind of laid out the reasonings as to why he is not going anywhere. he said there is three-fold, mnuchin according to this response he put out over the weekend. he is the treasury secretary who wants to stop financing of terrorists. saying is he jewish and he understands, quote of long history of violence and hatred against jews and other minorities. as yale graduate he understands the culture wars. this is how he ended his response, defending himself and the president, he said and i quote here, i don't believe the allegations against the president are accurate. i believe that having highly-talented men and women in our country surrounding the president in his administration should be reassuring to you and all the american people. as long as i am treasury secretary i will do the best job i can for the american people and provide the best advice i can to the president. that was his reasoning. i spoke with james donnell lon a little while ago who spearheaded
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whole thing, letter to steve, he told me, neil, he was amazed, that mnuchin even responded to this letter. he said it was quote, quite the surprise. obviously they want to see mnuchin step aside. they think that would be a powerful statement. they understand it has been a long go at it professionally for mnuchin to get to level of such high prestige as treasury secretary. they understand why he is not resigning. but they feel the letter did its job getting a response from the treasury secretary. now mnuchin at least is on the record. neil? neil: buddy, thank you, speaking of treasury secretary, speaking about tax reform. let's listen in. >> yeah, just i hope i don't bore you with procedure a bit, procedurally is the way it will start. you have to have a starting place. that is the chairman's mark, and chairman brady will be here tomorrow but he will not tell you all about that yet. that will be the starting place off which we work. senator hatch, chairman of the
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finance committee will have the sail starting place, hearings will happen. all of you will get a chance to look at it. everybody will have a chance to weigh in. that is the way it works. and we'll work our way through the process. obviously the more preferences you take out, the more revenue you have to lower rates. every preference has some support or it wouldn't have gotten in the code in the first place. to the extent we're able to take on some more significant preferences, remove them, use the revenue produced by removing those preferences to buy down rates, we can make the country much more competitive. steven mentioned the growth rate. there are two reasons why obama didn't have a single year at 3% growth. one, was lousy tax code which he made worse by raising taxes at the top, which yet all these small businesses that are pass-throughs.
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number two was the regulatory rampage going on across the country. they literally strange gelled damn near every business in america with too much regulation we have begun to tackle that already with 14 regulations that were removed under what is called congressional review act. the president's administration within each agency are revisiting regulations that we think contributed mightily to the slowing down the economy. so put another way, take your foot off the brake, put it on the accelerator and try to get the growth rate the secretary is talking about here which will produce more jobs and opportunity for the future. >> thank you. next question. this is another question for both of you. we'll let the secretary go first. how concerned should the u.s. be that china owns most of our outstanding debt? >> well, first of all they don't own most of the debt. they own about a trillion of the 20 trillion. so it is not most.
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but i don't think people should be concerned about that at all. >> leader mcconnell. >> i don't have anything to add to that. >> all right. how should the u.s. address the fact that our corporate tax rate is second highest in the world, second only to colombia? i think that you have both talked a little bit about this but anything to add to what you said earlier about it? neil: we'll continue to monitor this. again, this is the treasury secretary along with mitch mcconnell taking reporters questions about one, raising the debt limit. that comes up sooner than any of the tax cut stuff. the treasury secretary is a fan of making it clean, just raise it, don't attach anything to it. there are some conservatives in congress who disagree with that to get their vote to do so. they addressed the effective lower tax rates, how low they go. a lot has to depend how mitch mcconnell says, you offset that with give away a lot of things that built into the
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sales tax code, real estate, state income taxes and the like. i want to get into this. we'll get into other political developments as well, with "wall street journal" feature editor, and a campus, media and michael star hopkins a democratic strategist. james, we talk about the outside developments here and i'm not talking about eclipses of the sun, i am talking about how the time frame seems to be getting pushed back for a lot of these initiatives republicans want and the president dearly wants to change the dynamics. how likely is it we're even going to get to tax reform this year? >> well, that's a good question and i don't really know. the reason i think -- neil: you work at "wall street journal" you guys know everything? >> our job is to find out what is going on, find out what happens, we're not fortune tellers. we saw with the health care that the republican party is very disunited and of course they
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have only 52 votes in the senate. which means they can afford to lose two, no more than that maybe they will be more united on tax reform than they were on health care but, i don't know how optimistic one can be at this point. neil: do you think there are burned bridges between the president and mitch mcconnell with this war of words? the president escalated it saying essentially botched what was presumably an easy win? >> i don't know. mitch mcconnell strikes me as a very professional guy. he strikes me as a guy who, you know, does his job. i don't think he will take this all that personally. neil: but he started it, trump loyalists say, saying the president had unrealistic expectations going into this. what do you think? >> i think mitch was right about that. neil: do you? okay. cabot, what happens now? how important is it to you and your group to see progress made on taxes and this year? that next year is too risky? >> really important for 2018.
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these people up for re-election, they need a victory to point to as president trump, for anyone to imply it will be easy to pass tax reform just because an issue most conservatives agree on they need to look at history. last time tax reform was asked in '86, president reagan had approval rating in the 60s and took him almost a year to get it to pass. republican party is hardee feet for health care. the party is more divided than it was then. it will be difficult to get something done. they need to do the best. made a promise to american voters. it will be detrimental to all republicans looking for re-election and if they don't have it in '18. >> the '86 tax reform was bipartisan. because the democrats controlled the house. neil: first wave of this '81, carried into '82 before we got the real reform in '86. michael, give me democratic perspective. nancy pelosi is keen to censure the president.
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it would be largely meaningless, would send a message obviously. some republicans might get on board with it, but is it too much after distraction here? is that really the intent of democrat to kill this off, to kill this president's initiatives off to maybe kill him off, not physically but get my point? >> listen the president has his own worst enemy. every time he has opportunity to open his mouth to say something inspires the country, instead he chooses divisive rhetoric. that is not nancy pelosi -- neil: wouldn't you arguing censoring anyone is meaningless and will not advance the ball? >> i think censure is appropriate. we had a national tragedy. the president instead of unifying decide to side on alt-right. neil: if memory is right, everyone and his uncle came down on him like a ton of bricks. what would censure. >> it depends.
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came down hard and backed off, censure is statement from democrats and republicans that type of behavior isn't something that either side stands for. neil: he does mention whether you're on right or left, but it is a huge distraction for the president now. maybe that change as little bit with his foreign policy speech tonight on a afghanistan and asia, but he has got to get some gravitas here, right. >> i suppose. this is the i would say least authoritative president we've had in my lifetime. what i mean by that is, he doesn't project authority. barack obama, for example, in, after the tucson shooting and after the charleston shooting, he came out and said things that were very, you know, that had inspiring and healing effect. he wouldn't so good after sandy hook, came out made it into something about gun control. he was also not authoritative when there were terrorist attacks and he took opportunity to lecture people about islamophobia. neil: this president could still surprise you? >> he could.
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but at this point it would be very surprising. he doesn't seem to have it in him to project that sort of authority that other presidents, that george w. bush projected after 9/11 but -- neil: kevin, you could look at this real quickly, get a sense that the president might have a second shot at this, as much as he was praised for how he addressed the speech to congress in january, that this might be a moment to do that. if he does not or fails to connect in a way that most americans, when it comes to foreign policy matters give their presidents much wider latitude than they would on some domestic issues this, is important speech in that case, right? >> this will be the first major address he has given to the nation since kelly took over. that could have impacts as well. let's not kid ourselves -- neil: the four-star general now chief of staff. >> let's not kid ourselves. even if he were to give inspiring speech do you think those on left and media would say, he did it, he united america. he gave a speech we all needed of the they made up their mind about the narrative they will bring about after this speech.
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>> that is just not true. >> that is absolutely true. >> i covered every speech -- neil: say that again, michael. >> when the president succeeds we all succeed. i don't want the president to fail. the president is failing because he is failure. neil: you say you want the president to succeed. focusing on things you don't hold dear, so you don't want him to succeed. >> i don't want his policies to succeed. i want him to project presidential style and leader to inspire our country. neil: would you ever give him benefit of the doubt, when the presidency started did you give him benefit on anything. >> absolutely. i wrote multiple columns i didn't agree with politics of the president. now that he needs to be presidential an inspired our country, he failed at that. neil: final word. >> i think if the president gives a decent speech tonight he will get a moment of praise from the media. media, yes, they're left-wing -- neil: but for you they are short-lived. >> they also like drama. you can't have the same story over and over again.
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we may see a dramatic turn tonight that will last pat least a day or two, if he give as good speech. >> not forget troops out there. we want troops to succeed as well. neil: guys, i want to thank you all. we're awaiting that. we will provide live coverage of that. precoverage begins at 8 p.m. eastern time. 9:00 p.m. the speech itself. the president outlining plans for afghanistan, what is presumably a commitment of thousands of more troops to that region of the world. also outline what he wants to do with north korea this ising the defense secretary mattis urged, you just don't go about committing troops. you have to have a broad polly that shows exactly what you're going to do. meanwhile the solar eclipse the first time in this country since jimmy carter was president, no parallels we're here making, saying that is the last time something this sweeping occurred on u.s. soil. neil: it is well underway right now. nasa tv is providing these images. unless you have special glasses yourself we urge you not to do this at home. we'll have more after this.
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neil: all right, spanish police are now confirming that the main suspect in that barcelona as tack last week has been shot dead. american-islamic forum for democracy founder zuhdi jasser says don't feel necessarily totally relieved about that. that there are others behind him, even those who didn't even plan this attack but they might be making for other attacks good to have you. thanks for coming,. >> neil, good to be with you. neil: this is relief for people in the area. others are convinced they have ideas, seem crude, effective way of terrorizing people will be continuing sort of isis, you know, approach. what do you think? >> we should learn this is major operation. 12 operatives have been identified. who knows if there are more.
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paris attacks in 2015, those were five or six attacks. two escaped, commit ad second attack four months later because they were able to hide out through the eu communities like in molenbeek and others. we're learning this attack was coordinated and inspired by a imam in spain, that radicalized them for an operation, obviously from isis. the old mantra lone operatives get operationalized on the web, still we're finding most of the time the larger cells are operationalized locally, radicalized by imams. it is sad ins me in the work that we do, that this imam wasn't being monitored. the people attending his sermons were not being monitored. it was really under the radar and missed from security services. neil: apparently something that was even spelled out using vehicles for attacks in isis' own magazine, "inspire" magazine
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as step by step how-to go about it. do we monitor this magazine when people put out this sort of crazy stuff? >> you know, it is on the radar to find the sophisticated graphic that gets put out by inspire. we see their, you know, often months after the fact. we sort of do it in a after the fact status, we find their communications on the web through, we saw in the australia attempt two or three weeks ago they were transferring money through paypal. purchasing false printers through ebay. there are some different fronts. latest inspire magazine, try to derail trains. now we're starting to look at securing 100,000 miles of train tracks in america alone. so there is so many different fronts. we have to no longer focus just on the violent extremism but on the precursor ideologies. once they get behind the vehicle, once they get on a train, it is often too late. we have to monitor the idealogues rather than simply the behavior. neil: thank you very much.
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♪ neil: all right. hell hath no fury like chief strategist scorned and ultimately fired. the white house is finding out the hard way now that steve bannon is on the outside, firing on the inside. "real clear politics" founder tom bevin where this goes from here. tom, we shouldn't be too, too, surprised. already bannon hasn't indicated this is the most divided administration in history. he has high regard, he says for the president. not so much the people around him. but he is popular with the base, that is bannon. but again then so is the president but where does this go? >> it will be interesting to see how steve bannon approaches things. you're right, bannon always said he didn't want to be in the white house long term. he would only be there a year. he left sooner than he may have been wanted. two, he thought it was more contentious his time, than he wanted, fighting internal battles against the trump administration. you're right, trump connected with the base well before bannon got on with the campaign. that being said he is seen as a
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champion. i think he can be a effective, he can be an effective advocate for trump on the outside but also can be a real hindrance to trump. he can be a thorn on his side moving forward if he chooses to attack members of the administration for their position. it will be interesting to see how steve bannon approaches things. neil: there are all sorts of pushing, pulling, tugging to get the administration to succeed. most of the times it comes down to, taking a more moderate approach. now ronald reagan was not a moderate when he approached things like big tax cuts, big build-up in defense, et cetera. so some of those conservative backers of president trump say the last thing you want to do water down a message popular enough to get him elected president of the united states. what do you think of that? >> i agree with that generally. i mean trump did come in, you know, with a mandate from his base to get things done, but it has proven harder than he originally thought because members of his caucus, the republican party, on capitol
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hill, there are more moderates and they don't have real governing majorities. he has to stay true to his base and true to his promises. the afghanistan decision will be in some way decisive for him. this is one of the things he can't blame away on media, democrats or republican party. this is decision he made. one his base doesn't want. the one steve bannon argued vociferously against. neil: nation-building, getting in a war, that the president then as a candidate criticized prior white house resident for building on, yet to a man, they have all built up their commitment there, going back and forth on it. this president might do it again. how much does it hurt him with the base? i guess depends how he explains it? >> i agree, neil. it is how he frames it. we'll see how the base reacts. if he send more troops there, it will not be a popular decision. it will be a break with one of his campaign promises. that is one of the things -- i think they're willing to give
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him the benefit of the doubt f we see on newspapers and televisions american soldiers dying overseas without some sort of grand plan that the president is able to rally folks behind, it will be a problem for him. neil: tom, thank you very much for taking the time. i do appreciate it. that address which tom is referring, 9:00 p.m. eastern time tonight. he will outline the plans for afghanistan, even further to asia, specifically, we're told north korea. so that will all be spelled out tonight. we go on the air 8:00 p.m., to preview all of that. get early market read. market read as president is speaking afterward. we're there to cover all of that. also covering this interstellar development here, solar eclipse underway, the first total one we've seen affecting so many americans about 15 million in 75 million across the country, after this. ♪ so let me ask you this... how does diabetes affect your heart? type 2 diabetes
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neil: all right, you're looking at a live shot of the solar eclipse going on in madras, oregon, this is the first stop for this thing. it'll pass through 14 states, it is sweeping throughout much of the rest of country. you're not going to be that short changed. in new york, for example, roughly three-quarters of the sun will be blocked out, so it will look like dusk for a lot of folks. people in this neck of woods, it's going to look like pitch black night before the moon passes the sun. in case you miss this one or are oblivious to it, your next shot is april 8, 2024, after that
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you'd have to wait until 2044, then 2045, and the final bingo numbers are 2078. [laughter] we want you to be aware of all of that. a little bit of interstellar magic. be careful, you have to have those special glasses. in the meantime, we are paying attention to something else that will have interstellar importance to the president of the united states, an a address to the nation tonight outlining his plans for afghanistan, by extension we're told asia, no doubt to address what we do about north korea. again, our coverage begins at 8 p.m. at 9 p.m., the speech itself, market reaction to that. you get these rare sort of combinations of coverage only on this network. you can watch other networks, but effectively you're wasting your time. and i'm just saying i don't want to do that to you, because you've got things to do, i've got things to do. all our guests have things to do. so we want you to be on top of that, and a lot of people say for the president this is an opportunity to reseize the
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initiative, to reinforce some gravitas that comes with the position of being commander in chief, so maybe this will do that. it is far more important for our security and international security what the president outlines tonight. to admiral robert madder. admiral, very good to have you. >> thank you, neil. neil: we're told that the prime minister has already committed -- the president has already cometted to 3900 additional troops, but his defense secretary said you have to outline the mission for these men and women and this is something the president will do tonight. what do you want to hear? >> well, i'd like to hear what that mission is. and more importantly, the strategy to accomplish that mission. i think the initial reaction on everyone's part is, look, we've spent enough in blood and treasure in afghanistan, let's just leave. the first reaction is the wrong one in this case. we've seep what a void of -- seen what a void of leadership will do in a place called syria,
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and we certainly have national concerns in afghanistan. so we can't just leave. neil: you know, admiral, i always wonder, we've byrne involved in this -- been involved in this neck of the woods since 2001 after the 9/11 attacks, and we've been there ever since in varying sizes of troopses and what have you. is it your sense that the president has to address what some might call just war fatigue and to explain why it's necessary? >> oh, absolutely. i think he's got to lay out the case why our presence there is necessary, and more importantly, how he will insure that we make this a regional challenge and get the support or at least the cooperation of neighbors like pakistan and the other regional nations that have, one could argue, more of a vested interest there than we do.
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neil: you know, i always look at these things through different prisms, admiral. i'm sure you just focus on what keeps us safe, as you should. but there's always this argument the president needs to show some gravitas here. he is the commander in chief. other presidents who have been in similarly challenged positions have seen their fortunes turn around even in the middle and even briefly of an unpopular presidency, even jimmy carter briefly experienced that after the iran hostage rescue mission that failed in the desert. but there was a blip up of support there, short-lived in his case. how important is this for the president to get his commander in chief mojo back? >> well, i mentioned in our discussion thus far, neil, that leadership is necessary and important there. and in the united states of america, that leadership starts with the president of the united states. and so it is time, an appropriate opportunity for him to step up. neil: we're told he's going to
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include addressing what's happening in korea. now, there's not a whole lot he could spell out there without tipping off the bad guys. so how far does he go? and does he lay out the possibility for military conflict? because that would eclipse whatever headlines you're getting out of what you're going to do in afghanistan. >> yeah. i don't think that would be productive or helpful, to emphasize this evening with respect to north korea. what would be good is, again, to say we're working closely with the chinese. we know they have vested interests in what happens in north korea just as we do, can and we're confident that we're -- and we're confident that we're going to be able to work with them and, hopefully, be mutually supportive of keeping nuclear weapons off the korean peninsula and out of the eastern asia region. neil: all right, admiral, thank you very much. admiral robert nadde, retired four-star. talk about the real mccoy.
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the eclipse going on in oregon, hotel rooms throughout the state, i'm told, or certainly in the immediate area of its path have been booked for months now. traffic jams are reported in that area along the 70-mile-wide stripe that comprises 14 states. but it is almost a total eclipse there as it will be for the rest of the country as it moves across eastward. in our neck of the woods, of course, in the new york metropolitan neck of the woods it's going to be three-quarters covered which will still confuse a lot of folks. always confuses the animals, they have no idea what's going on, which is why we are on top of the food chain. all right, we'll watch that closely. it is startling to watch, isn't it? we'll see what happens when it's fully covered. again, your next shot at seeing anything approaching this is 2024, and after that 2044. so i'm just saying, i mean, that's it. all right, stocks after last week trying to come back this week. we've got stocks up about 16 points right now.
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a lot of it hinges on concerns about the president's economic agenda. we've been hearing from mitch mcconnell and treasury secretary steve mnuchin saying that agenda's still on, they're confident they'll be able to move forward, that those tax cuts will go through and get done. but the devil's always in the details. we've got fox business network's deirdre bolton. glad to see deirdre back. what do you make of this, that he's got to get a w here? >> i think so, especially from the speech tonight. first speech post-bannon and, of course, we have to remind everybody bannon did not want to send additional troops to afghanistan. neil: that's right. >> from a markets perspective, i'm going to just be watching defense stocks. your past guest was saying, listen, this is about 4,000 troops or 5,000 troops to bring it up around 15,000 which is still off the low of about 100,000, right? under the heights with president obama. so it's a small move if he, if
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the president does give those details. but still as far as the market goes, i will be watching defense stocks, lockheed martin, boeing, raytheon, just to see how they move. but i agree tone wise this is really important. the s&p 500 is off a half a percent since charlottesville, virginia. you know, we had this great run since inauguration, we've had an eight-year bull market, so we can't be too greed toty. i just think tone wise, yeah, people want details. and as you said yourself, even down to their pocketbooks, the tax cuts. neil: absolutely. >> we have jackson hole this week to be watching what janet yellen will be doing, ecb, bank of england. neil: dave, one of things that has come up when we discuss the president's speech tonight isn't so much what he specifically outlines for afghanistan or, for that matter, north korea -- important as it is -- but to reclaim the initiative, because there are a lot of folks who are getting increasingly concerned that the markets are seeing these tax cuts and other things
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slip away. are they justified in that? because they've bounced back from the lows, but what do you think? >> i think they're justified in worrying about it. i mean, we haven't even had a definition of exactly, you know, tax reform. think of the clarity when steve forbes ran for president and said, look, here's my code, and it's going to be on a postcard, and he said here's the rate, and here's what i'm planning on. we've had nothing with that kind of specificity. so to expect that the markets are somehow linked completely to the idea we're going to, you know, they can't do analysis -- neil: what if they don't get it this year? >> i mean, look, my own view is that they're -- every analyst at every shop on the show is watching your show right now constantly taking into account the political realitieses. and so, to me, the idea that we're headed for some cliff if, in fact, reform fails, i mean, it's already been discounted, right? the chances of it not happening, in my opinion, are already relatively baked into the market. neil: really?
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even the market -- i know it's still up appreciably. >> what bet are they making? they're betting on what? neil: yeah. >> they're betting on a -- >> the u.s. stock market the cleanest dirty shirt in the closet. there are other analysts saying, look, this is priced to perfection. so if we don't get the details and we've had an eight-year bull run -- neil: you know what amazes me about that, and i've heard this too. if you've seen the market hold up, last week notwithstanding after charlottesville, through all the doubts about the president and his deteriorating poll numbers, it seems to hold up which leads me to believe, this is just my opinion, that maybe this isn't all tax sent rick. maybe this is earnings. -- centric. maybe this is earnings, the likelihood of a fed hike now has been reduced, 41% of investors seem to think that's going to happen in the latest tracking. that those are the factors
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helping the market. >> and consumers still spend, right? neil: right. >> that is the engine of our economy. that's two-thirds of our gdp, whether you want to make an argument that it's a positive or a negative, i was taking a look, actually, at u.s. household debt. credit cards are up again. again, there are people who say, great, consumers feel good, they feel confident -- neil: or they could be building a problem. >> or, yes, they could be building a to problem and, oh, i need to use my credit card to buy groceries. that's bad. neil: guys, if we can go full on this eclipse right now, i e mention it because we haven't seen anything like this since 1979. and perhaps dave and i are the only one of an age to remember that. [laughter] dave, you know, it's interesting because i was thinking of what was going on in 1979. anding, to, you know, of course, that was in february at the time. but, of course, it was the year everything imploded more jimmy carter. and by this time in the summer of '79 we had long gas lines again in the second energy crisis, you know, everything was
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going to hell in a hand basket. not that an eclipse presaged it, but the year started out so well, with great promise. it looked like jimmy carter was on his way to getting reelected, and we know how the year ended, and that was partly the case, the hostages that sometimes these events can be telegraphed in the strangest ways. do you see any '79-ish developments here? >> that's a great question. neil: i have many like it. [laughter] >> i mean, you had the twin-headed snake of the really bad economy and the rain grab hostage -- iranian hostage crisis which, you know, was death for a presidential administration. and, you know, clearly our president's not performing the way that i think he's capable of. and, yeah -- neil: and we should say this president is overseeing an economy and a market environment decidedly rosier than it was at that time, the last eclipse. but you do worry sometimes. i know this is no connection,
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deirdre, about history repeating itself, and these events seem to telegraph it. the one back in 1918 and 1898, you go back a year or so later, there was great trouble afoot. >> and i'm just so focused on maybe we should all go by shag carpeting and wood paneling -- [laughter] neil: way to go, baby. right. >> i'm thinking, oh, all right -- >> the eclipse indicator. who would have thought? neil: who would have thought? who was the it's to logical guy that used to do that? >> oh, yeah. carroll -- something like that. neil: who am i to judge this? i am just saying these things are rare. you're seeing it live on your screen in oregon as this continues to make its way eastward across the continental united states. quite a few of them. if you talk about the totality, someone corrected me when i said 75 million americans will see a partial or total, it's more like 140 million who will see it at a minimum a partial eclipse.
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i do know those in the direct path of this 14 million strong. it could go to 70 million. needless to say, a sweep here the likes of which we've not seen since jimmy carter was president of the united states. we'll have more after this. don't let dust and allergens get between you and life's beautiful moments. switch to flonase allergy relief. flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing 6 key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. flonase helps block 6. most allergy pills only block one and 6 is greater than 1. with more complete relief
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not appropriate. now i'm mashing these potatoes with my stick of butter... why don't you sit over here. find your awesome with the xfinity stream app. included with xfinity tv. more to stream to every screen. neil: all right, there you have it. the total eclipse is on in
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madras, oregon. this is something that will affect a 70-mile swath through some 14 states, its longest duration will be near carbondale, illinois, when the sun will be completely covers for two minutes and 4040 seconds. -- 40 seconds. it ends in charleston, south carolina. [laughter] what's going on right there, guys? that's the light coming out after, after the moon is directly many front of the sun, is that right? okay. brian is our local space expert here, and he's assured me, neil, this is happening up in the heavens. thank you for that, brian. all right, so it's on. we're going to see a lot more of this. of course, you know the drill here. this is very confusing, a lot of people under this are in complete darkness. for much of the country, it'll be at least partial darkness. this lasts a couple of minutes or so, and then the moon moves out of the way, continues this
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depending on your geographical point of view across all the way to the eastern coast of the united states. last time we've seen anything approaching this was nearly four decades ago. the next shot you have of seeing anything approaching this is 2024 and after that not until 2044. connell mcshane, though, is getting in early on all of this at a watch party in new york city where i think, connell, they can look forward to about three-quarters coverage of the sun? >> reporter: yeah, about that, 72%, i think, is what they're seeing, neil, which is, i guess, nothing to sneeze at, right? or get your eyes all fogged up at. i brought friends this time since my last report was a little underwhelming x they're a family from seattle visiting here in new york. the excitement is actually building, and i've got ben and joey, their mom, susie, and i want to know, ben, are you excited, number one. and if so, because in about an hour or so, things are going to get interesting here. what are you excited about? >> well, i've never really done
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this because i'm only 8 years old, but it's exciting because i'm,ing like, never really heard of it before. >> reporter: right. i'm older than 8, i've never done it. neil, who's back in the studio, he's never done it. so it's not only the 8-year-olds, it's his brother here as well. susie, by way, you guys are here on vacationsome. >> yes. >> reporter: so this is something else, this party. i didn't even know it would be so exciting many new york, but i think they've got about a thousand people here at the planetarium. >> it's a crazy crowd. we were here early, got our glasses, got in line for the terrace. >> reporter: the glasses is the key. what about you, joey, what are you excited about? >> i've just never seen it before. >> reporter: that's the thing, right? it is, we sometimes get a little mel to lo dramatic saying it's a once in a lifetime, this really is. you know, given the news every day and how crazy things are, today it's a lot of smiles, a lot of people excited. yeah, we're only going to be
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70%, not like they are out in oregon, but people were lined up for hours to get in here, probably a thousand or so people, and they're all waiting for it in new york. we all have our glasses. neil: connell mcshane. i want to go to mary ellen weber, former nasa astronaut, the largest city in this so-called path of totality, nashville. very good to have you, mary ellen. it is a big event for a lot of folks who have never seen anything like this, and it's been a while since we've seen anything like this, isn't it? >> oh, i think it's a huge event. i mean, the last time an eclipse like this one went coast to coast throughout the united states was actually 99 years ago. i do remember 1970 i was in ohio, and there was an eclipse that went up the east coast, and i got to see just a partial. i was only 8 years old. and what really just strikes me about the whole thing when you
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think about what was known scientifically 99 years ago or even back in 1970 and to see what, how far we've come, how much we've learned, you know, just proving relativity theory definitely this past year or so with gravitational weight, the detection of that, and to see this astrological phenomenon is just, it's really emotional. that's why i flew from dallas this morning up to nashville so that i could be a part of it. neil: well, if you're an astronaut doing that, all the more kudos to you. would you have a different vantage point in space seeing this? >> yeah. well, you definitely would. in fact, there are going to be an entire three orbits that the astronauts up on the space station are going to get a chance to enjoy not a total eclipse, but a partial eclipse. and so they'll -- it's looking, you know, looking back at the
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earth is an amazing thing, but what's surprising is actually when you look out into the stars and into space how cool and amazing that is as well. and the fact that they are getting to see an eclipse, i'm just so envious and is jealous. neil: you know, i know you're an astronaut by training, but i know they've done studies on animal ands the like that are totally confused when something like this happens, and they act, behave differently. what do we know about that? >> i am not an expert on that -- [laughter] although my husband and i here many nashville, we keep looking around and making sure there isn't an apocalypse. there aren't any walking dead. [laughter] neil: yeah, hopefully not. [laughter] >> but, no, i mean, that's getting back to my first comments about what we know scientifically, you know, the first time humans saw this thing, they had no idea. they imagined all kinds of crazy things. and now that we know so much
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more, you know, it's, you know, to me it's hard to believe that an animal would sense what is happening with the moon coming in front of the sun. i do think that they could be very confused by the fact that suddenly becomes total darkness in the middle of their day. so i suspect if there's animal behaviors that change, it's because of that. neil: do you think ever, i mean, i know this is apples and oranges. we're looking at a simulation what happens when the moon comes in front of the sun and, of course, blocks out the sun. again, at just the right angle, the totality of this, of course, the likes of which we've not seen. i'm really not talking just in the four decades, but a total solar eclipse moving across the entire continental united states, that hasn't happened since 1918. you know, a lot of people read scary things into this, harry ellen, that they remember what
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happened in 1918 was the onset of world war i. they remember 1979, the onset of a horrific economic recession and inflation, all that, and they get scared. that's not all the time but enough of the time that people say -- they get afraid of this sort of stuff. what to you say? >> well, i'm a scientist, and i, you know, just because there's a correlation it doesn't mean that there's a cause and effect. those are two very, very different things. and you could, you can draw a lot of, many correlations between many different things that are completely unrelated and coincidentally you'll see that they happen to overlap. but i, i'm amazed by the science and the astronomy that's happening right now. and i can't imagine with my scientific mindset that this is an omen of anything other than -- [laughter] a scientific occurrence that's happening.
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neil: i'm right with you there, mary ellen. thank you very much, former massa astronaut, mary ellen western. the zone of totality continues now across much of united states. the entire continental united states in a broad swath that comprises 14 states. this occurs at a time a lot of people read scientific things into this, others ominous things into this. my buddy had forwarded to me that the legendary astrologist who followed stocks and attached it to what happens happening in the heavens was the late, great arch crawford who predicted by the position of the sun, the moon and the stars. i don't know what arch used to say about the position of eclipses in all of this, just that they could trigger events or herald events that had probably very little to do with things that were factual, but certainly things that gripped people.
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that was then, this is now. an incredible display of astronomy is on play across the country. more after this. copd makes it hard to breathe.
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>> waiting quite superbly for the eclipse of the sun-like object. >> and here if i'm very much mistaken comes the eclipse. >> yes, you are very much mistaken, here it comes. petersome. >> yes, i can't see anyone stopping it now. >> it's all over but the shouting. >> the sands of time must slowly be drawing to a close for this plucky -- oh! rain. neil: i remember that like it was yesterday. here's the thing about being old enough to remember monty python and the 1972 eclipse of the sun thing, i'm the only one on the staff who did. monty python, neil, that rings a bell. but again, i thought that in light of this eclipse, very,
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very funny stuff. can you imagine these people that have gone to areas that are going to be in this path of totality and then you have rain or you have traffic problems or you have all these other ills? but for idaho falls right now, idaho, the usa, of course, next in the line of this full eclipse that's underway for some 14 states. now, a lot of people look at these as the astronomical events that they are, others read sinister things into these. the late, great arch crawford said when we saw something approaching this magnitude in the united states in 1918, of course, it was the onset of world war i, others remembered back to 1979, the last one we saw something of this ilk, we had hyperinflation to worry about, and the bedeviledded presidency that could never climb back. that was, of course, the carter administration. thatthat was then, this is now.
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people read into them all sorts of fears. whether that's justified or not, i do want to explore with my guests on the same night we're going to hear the president of the united states address the american people. maybe to get his gravitas or to get his footing back, to address what we're going to do in afghanistan, what we're going to do about north korea. all that's coming tonight having nothing to do with this eclipse that was well telegraphed. lenore, what's at stake for the president tonight? well past this e chips and after it's -- eclipse. >> well, i think he really needs to regain some trust. what happened with jeff sessions has a lot of his allies a little bit nervous. if he's going to have their back, if they have his back. and he almost needs to gain some ground with losing a lot of these business leaders who made it very public that they believed that having that kind of association with president trump was more costly than the men pits derived from being on these different councils. neil: you know, we talk about
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how this is much more than an address that would focus not on e clips, but on -- eclipses, but on the president getting his momentum back. that was disrupted after the charlottesville events. what do you think? >> yeah, i think that a change in middle east policy's about as rare as a sew already lahr eclipse -- solar eclipse for the united states. and i think americans are, frankly, kind of annoyed by what's been happening in the middle east in the past years, we haven't made progress. of course, we should want him to fix the mess, but people did not vote for donald trump because of afghanistan. and i think what us from tates a lot of trump supporters and conservatives and people who want him to succeed is he's not out there pushing the reasons why he won and trying to get tax reform done, trying to get the repeal of obamacare, trying to get infrastructure going. and i think using one of these first prime time addresses to focus on an issue that very few people are focused on and that really he wasn't elected to take on.
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neil: you know, matt, we read a lot into these address that is come and go with administrations. richard nixon at 37 oval wawfs addresses. in the moment they can take advantage of the moment, on foreign policy matters we tend to boost the president and see mihm the role of commander in the chief. what is your sense with this? >> yeah, i think that's right, neil. i think you had the presidential decision on bombing in syria, and a lot of people said we like the policy and the decision, but sell the american people. take your case to the american people. and i think on afghanistan, of course, we don't know exactly what he's going to announce, so we should all wait to see. maybe there's more to this than we even know. i do think it's the right thing as the commander in chief, as the leader of all americans, to go to them and explain to them why he is taking the steps he's taken. neil, i actually think he should do this more, and i think he's
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waited to do his first one. neil: lenore, the last time he addressed the nation, for example, his address to congress back in january. now, of course, he has had some bumpy press conferences, statements, passing reporters, etc. but this is a unique moment for him. do you agree with that? would it move the markets either way? >> i think it has the potential to depending on what he says, but he does need to stay on script, i think, on this one, and he needs to come out as the statesman that is fully in control and that brings out the best in the american people. he needs to rally the americans to believe that we really are on the right side of things. neil: go ahead. i'm sorry, finish that thought. >> well, i was just going to say that i really don't think a speech on afghanistan's going to do anything to the markets. i think that's what's frustrating is that we need a prime time speech about the economy. we need the prime time speech about tax reform. we need the prime time speech about seeing what the direction the country's going. afghanistan, which has, you know, a few thousand american troops, what -- no matter where
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we go, if we were to withdraw them all or to double or triple that, it's not going to impact the markets. and i think that's what's frustrating is, i think -- neil: but, you know, ron, they could rattle the markets if he botches it. >> certainly if he continues making statements that aren't going to back up his agenda and are going to get people distracted on these social and other issues, yeah, it's going to continue -- it's going to make people question this economy, and i think that's why he -- i agree with matt. he needs to actually get back to what he ran on and start pushing that more. neil: matt, do you agree with that? >> yeah, i do. but i think one of his biggest themes was he would protect us, and he would take on these radical terrorists. and when the problem with afghanistan is that it's destabilized, the local police and army can't keep the peace. and we have this problem once again where it becomes a base for radicalized activities all over the globe. so i think that's the case. if he wants to increase the
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number of troops there, he's got to explain to the american people why, and i think they'll give him the benefit of the doubt as commander in chief. neil: all right. thank you, guys, all very much. as if the interstellar developments don't pass real news, we were just showing you what's going on in jackson hole, wyoming, where this eclipse -- i guess that is in the wave of totality. what do they call it again, ralph? the zone of totality? do you know? path of totality. and i should say that jackson hole will be where janet yellen will be on friday to outline her fed policy. coincidence or not? after this. ♪ approaching medicare eligibility?
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♪ ♪ neil: all right. we are still keeping eyes on this eclipse, and we will continue doing so on the lower portion of your screen, and when it becomes captivating, as it already has, we will go full to that.
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cloudflare facing a backlash from free speech advocates for censoring a neo-nazi web site. matthew prince on whether this could be a slippery slope. very good to have you. >> thanks for having me. neil: those who are free speech advocates say however appalling this speech was, they have the right to do it, to say it, to preach it. what do you say? >> you know, i'm a huge believer in the first amendment. i'm the son of a journalist and spent, you know, my childhood growing up around the dinner table talking about how the first amendment is one of the things that makes america a great country. and i'm really concerned about companies like cloudflare making editorial decisions about who can and cannot be online. the challenge though is this was such repugnant speech that it became such a distraction for us that we couldn't even have the conversation over whether or not a company like us is the right place to regulate the internet. and so, you know, we made the
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choice, i head the choice to kick them off our network last week, and and i'm happy that we're now having the debate about what the right place to regulate the internet is. neil: but like you said, it is a slippery slope potentially, right? i mean, your, you know, objection to bl speech might be someone else's right to state objectionable things, many of whom would take exception to speech that doesn't mirror their own. so where do can you draw the linesome. >> i think that, you know, this is a complicated issue. i would imagine the first time you had ever heard of cloudflare was morning, and yet, you know, 2 .8 billion -- 2.8 billion people pass through our network every month. we are some of the infrastructure that sits done inside the internet. -- deep inside the internet. the real question is, you know, we need principles that align, free speech is one thing, but we need principles that align with an idea of due process so that when technology companies are
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making choices about what content is and is not on their networks, that there's a way of knowing what those choices are in advance and you can understand what the rules of system are even be you're outside of that system. neil: but do you worry though that, you know, with the best of intentions what happens you are setting a standard of what you call objectionable? and i think there are most people that would find neo-nazi views, ku klux klan views unacceptable and unwanted, period, but they have every right to espouse them, and we as viewers, readers, purveyors of the internet have every right to ignore them. >> yeah. i think, again, i think you and i are saying the same thing which is i think there is a real risk here. the challenge is that you need to make decisions that make sense both for your company where, you know, if you're getting an enormous distraction by a customer who's at the end of the day, you know, a jerk,
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these guys did a bunch of things to harass people online, to go after our employees and suggest that we were part of supporting their ideology. neil: all right. >> and so that's, that's a real challenge for us and for any technology companies, and i think we need to have a debate about where the right place to put these controls is. neil: all right. thank you very, very much. matthew prince, cloudflare ceo. again, dealing with the fallout from trying to crack down on what is deemed to be hate speech. you're going to see and hear a lot about in the weeks and months ahead. and you are obviously hearing and seeing a lot on about this total eclipse of the sun in casper, wyoming, right now. of course, the last time this happened in the united states, 1979. before that we had it back in 1918, before that, 1898. i think i misstated something, 1898, for example, the recession that followed came two years later.
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and many had argued, and i looked this up, 1918 world war i was essentially done. we had another six months to go. some at the time, i was noticing here, someone e-mailed this to me, that the eclipse needlessly dragged the war on for five months. i don't believe the eclipse did that. but at any rate, all sorts of darkness attributed to these in partial eclipses and total eclipses, many events are pegged to the that. the late, great arch crawford who connected these events said, ironically, interstellar type of manifestations like this lead to all sorts of problems on earth either months or years later. you could use this as the peg for that or just a jolly good show, as monty python put it. we'll have more after this. ♪
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eastern time. at which point a lot of the eastern united states starts seeing a partial eclipse. in the new york metropolitan area, that amounts to about a 72% blockage of the sun by the moon. connell mcshane has a new york city perspective on this, jeff flock is in carbondale, illinois. we begin with connell. connell, what are you seeing and hearing there? >> reporter: well, i'm not seeing a thing as i look towards the camera because we have these silly glasses on like just about everybody else. but as i tilt my head and look to the right, it's underway, and it's really cool, for lack of a better term, as the moon has started to move in front of the sun. it started to do so about 25 minutes ago or so. by 2:44 p.m. eastern time, we'll get to that three-quarters point that you were talking about. now, they've done a good job in building up the excitement, and there's plenty of it. here even though we're not in the line of totality in new york city, there is -- there are people, as there always are here in new york, from all over the
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country and the world that just happen to be here on vacation, and many of them have come to the american museum of natch aal history to gather for this watch party. they get on the terrace here, they've all been looking up and kind of coming together, laughing together and watching and pointing and really enjoying themselves. so it's been a good time had by all and a lot of anticipation building for when we get to that point at 2:44 p.m. eastern time to see what it looks like. now, there was a total eclipse i was reading, neil, in new york city back in 1925, upper part of manhattan and into the bronx. from what i read in the times this morning, there was some blind guy out in jersey who claimed he could see. that was then, so maybe there's still hope for us now. we're looking forward to it. neil: can you see anything out of those glasseses? >> reporter: nothing. i swear to god, not a thing. [laughter] this could be the camera right here. i'd be like, well, you know what, neil? i have no idea where i am. but if you look up, you see it perfect. perfect for the sun.
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neil: very good, connell, thank you. jeff flock now in carbondale, illinois. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: well, we're seeing the sun, but we're also, neil, seeing -- as maybe you canning see -- we're seeing cheerleaders too. but there are clouds in the sky that have moved in since we last talked. that potentially could obscure us. we're about 25 minutes away now from totality here, and look at this stadium. this is southern illinois university in carbondale, and i'll tell you, it is packed. and it's hot as all get out out here. everybody's got these fans, this young lady's got a fan. >> hi. >> reporter: are you staying reasonably cool? >> yes, i am. [laughter] >> reporter: you must want to pass out out here. i'm sweating like crazy. is this worth it? >> oh, yeah. it's a lot of fun. >> reporter: why did you comesome. >> we wanted to see the totality. >> >> reporter: we're 25 minutes away. are you worried about these clouds? >> it looks okay. i hope so, i hope we'll be good. >> reporter: oh, i see corey. hey, thanks for coming over.
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corey job is the illinois tourism director. real quick, this is beyond your wildest dreams. >> over 20,000 people here, over 200,000 in the region. it's incredible for this great solar eclipse here in carbondale, illinois. >> reporter: i appreciate it. we'll get the number process you later. it's a party, 15,000 people looking at sun. neil: amazing. everyone, be careful. jeff, thank you very, very much. all right, now to st. claire, missouri, where travels on. the eclipse is on and so are we right after this. get between you and life's beautiful moments. switch to flonase allergy relief. flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by overproducing 6 key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. flonase helps block 6. most allergy pills only block one and 6 is greater than 1. with more complete relief you can enjoy every beautiful moment to the fullest. flonase. 6 is greater than 1 changes everything.
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neil: okay. casper, wyoming, seeing a total eclipse right now. that is to the left of the screen, guys? st. clair, missouri, is about to see one. i think this continues for another 45 minutes. ends in south carolina, as far as that path of totality they call it. but you know the eclipse is not the only big event today. our coverage of president trump's address to the nation is following up at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. and right after that, we follow the president's address itself. only place where you can gain global market reaction after the president speaks. whether this address, not really meant to addressee clipses. this reinstate gravitas
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commander-in-chief and afghanistan and tougher approach to north korea. we will be there. trish, thank you. thank you for all your hard work in eye absence. you were non-stop and everywhere. trish: it was wonderful opportunity. anytime i can help you out, neil. neil: you were great. i appreciate it. i'm a little annoyed so many people saying stick with trish. trish: hey, neil, check it out. i got them. the courtesy -- neil: connell's had construction paper. he can't see anything. >> you can't see through it. it is very interesting. interesting day and stuff going on. neil cavuto. good to have you back, sir. the nation is experiencing a total solar eclipse right now! wow. look at this, just minutes from now the moon will pass over carbondale, illinois, and last


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