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down 15 points. [closing bell rings] s&p barely hanging on to positive territory. people taking money off the table heading into the long weekend that will do it for me. david asman, melissa francis are here now "after the bell." melissa: a wild week for the markets but it is the dow's best week in nearly a year-and-a-half. all major averages staging a come back following the worst week in two years. i'm melissa francis. happy friday. david: happy friday. a good day for the markets. wild day for news. i'm david asman. this is "after the bell." here is what else we're covering for you. what a busy hour we have for you. the depth of russian interference in our elections is now revealed and it is stunning. russian agents posing as u.s. political activeists spending years to sow distrust on both sides among american voters. brand new indictment from robert mueller charging 13
russian nationals with conspiracy to destroy the united states and u.s. voters. we'll share that with you. plus shocking new developments in the florida high school shooting. how the fbi failed to act on anonymous tip from just one month ago. the florida governor's shocking recommendation. we're waiting an update from the wouk sheriff on the investigation. any moment we'll bring that to you live as soon as it happens. melissa: back to the markets. the dow ending the day off session highs, following indictments from robert mueller. nicole -- nicole petallides from the floor of the new york stock exchange. how did it feel down there? >> we saw a selloff from the special counsel indicting 13 russian nationals. you can see that moving after hundred time. we moved 250 points from top to bottom at that point. we managed to hold on to a gain of dow 20 points. that is up fractionally.
six days in a row of gains. so much volatility. we saw 1000 point selloff swings galore. you remember we had the worst selloff in history. look what went on this week. 4.2%. last week we lost about 5%. we didn't bet back all of it but certainly got back a lot. looking at the dow jones industrial average for this month of february, you can see we're down 929 points. so a loss of about 3 1/2%. so stocks certainly off their record highs but not in that correction mode that we had seen. look at since the record closes i said we're off the highs. you can see the dow is off 5.25%. certainly in 52 weeks since the election we're still jumping high and hot that being said, big picture, people are feeling optimistic but we did get a little bit of a selloff on the heels of the news about the 13 russian nationals.
that put a damper on things. we still held on to gains. back to you. melissa: nicole, thank you. david: new charges in the mueller investigation. the special counsel indicting 13 russian nationals and three russian companies for interfering in the 2016 election. here now with the latest details our own connell mcshane. hi, connell. >> hey there, david. the indictment we all saw today alleges that these individuals and companies spread false information, tried to impact the election. invented fake u.s. personas even staged fake political rallies. before the election in early 2016 the russians are alleged to try to hurt hillary clinton, spreading derogatory information about her and help those running against her, bernie sanders or donald trump. after trump won the russians said to have staged rallies for and against him. trying in words of deputy attorney general rod rosenstein to sow discord. as for contact with the trump campaign, there was some but the
russians are alleged to have hidden that are identities so the campaign didn't know who they were dealing with. here is rosenstein. >> there is no allegation in this indictment that any american was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. there is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of 2016 election. want to caution you everyone charged with a crime is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in court. reporter: we actually got a short time ago from trump on twitter. russia started their anti-u.s. campaign in 2014 long before i announced i would run for president. the results of the election were not impacted. the trump campaign did nothing wrong. no collusion. we have statement from the democrat, ranking member on the intelligence committee, adam schiff talks about the fact that no americans were named in the indictment. the indictment leaves open vital question whether any americans,
including trump campaign knowingly played a role in russian active measures campaign. david to be clear, this indictment says any communication with the campaign was done unwittingly. that the members of the campaign or those associated with it who were speaking with russians did not know who they were speaking with. there you have it back with new york. david: after all we've gone through past couple years they used words very carefully right now in all of these investigations at the justice department. connell, thank you very much. joining me on the phone, andy mccarthy "national review" contributing editor, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, and a guru as far as these matters are concerned. andy, so glad you could join me. there is a 37 page indictment. there is one sentence stood out in the indictment to me. let me read it to you and show it to our viewers. "some defendants posing as u.s. persons and without revealing their russian association communicated with unwitting
individuals associated with the trump campaign and with other political activists to seek and to coordinate political activities." unwitting individuals, andy. to me that seems to mean no americans committed a crime here. >> yeah i think that is not only what it means, david, i think it is losses what deputy attorney general rosenstein stressed in his remarks at the press conference. it seems to me that this shows that there is no collusion, not that that is surprising at this point, on at least two levels. one is, in they had to talk to americans unwittingly, obviously americans connected to the trump campaign did not know they were dealing with russians but more to the point if there had been a pipeline of corrupt conspiracy between the trump campaign and kremlin, the russians would not have had to dupe campaign
officials, whether trump officials or anyone else into what they were trying to accomplish that would have been an open pipeline of assistance. david: is it vital for americans to find out which americans were associated with the trump campaign were the unwitting participants of this? >> well i think, you know, we'll have to see where this goes. my own view of it for what it's worth, i really don't understand what they're doing here. it seems to me that they have filed what essentially is a political document because everybody knows there is not a chance we'll get any of these russians into an american come for a while, what is implicated here a lot of activity that americans engage in a lot of activity that our government and representatives of our government engage in the world in order to try to influence
events in other countries, and it just seems to me that if, as the justice department said, the russians are engaged in information warfare against us doesn't seem to me that the criminal justice system is the way thaw respond when a country is engaging in warfare against you. that seems like a political and diplomatic issue and by making it into a criminal issue we ad least provoke the possibility that other countries will act in kind against us. david: interesting point. let me ask you there could be a phase two of this indictment. this phase clearly lays out what the russians were involved with, even though these people are unindebtable they're not -- unindebtable, that not coming back to the united states. the internet agency, the front company, if you will.
we have known if not for years that it was trolling organization used by putin and his associates. so all these figures are unindictable, however could there be more, could there be other people involved in this unbeknownst to us now, that mueller might be investigating, in particular u.s. citizens. >> sure, it is possible although it certainly looks from what we're seeing here that weren't americans involved in this cop schuss complicit way. so, you have to ask at certain point what is the point of what we're doing here if because it doesn't look like this activity did much in the way of having an impact on the election. a lot of it just looks kind of amateurish if you ask me. david: i pot to ask a final question, andy, because we're short on time, is it then your feeling as we see from this,
it's, there is a lot of interesting information for us as journalists and it is a fascinating turn of events, however, from a legal standpoint it is not that much, does this mean to you that the investigation, the mueller investigation as it were is close to an end? >> no. i think the mueller investigation david, i think is mainly concentrated right now on obstruction rather than collusion. i think, you know, all we learned today is confirmation of something everyone knows, the russians tried to interfere in our elections and they were doing it before trump ever came along. what i think mueller is focused on right now is obstruction. david: okay. and so there is, there is more to go? people in the white house are not completely off the hook? >> well, manafort isn't going to be tried for months yet, right? david: absolutely. >> so i mean that case, that case is going into next year. david: andy mccarthy, always a pleasure to hear your analysis.
thank you very much. >> thanks, david. david: appreciate it. melissa: this time last week we were coming off a correction for the dow and s&p 500, we wiped out, remember that, our 2018 gains for the major indices. it is the best week for the nasdaq in more than six years. for the s&p in more than five years. bring in jack hough, baron's senior editor and allison. senor director. exuberance shows itself in the market, we saw the correction but you're not totally sure out of the woods? >> no, i'm not totally sure we're out of the woods. listen there is going to be inflation. there will be rises in interest rates. what people need to do though is look past that, take more of a long-term view. what concerns me more than sort of this short-term volatility, i run a global mergers and acquisition practice and in talking to clients you know there is an overabundance of capital in the market. melissa: great point.
>> there is tremendous asset evaluation increases. we're seeing debt being provided, you know covenant light loans where people are providing and competing to provide debt to put capital to work in the markets. the last time we have seen these type of variables we saw them in the run-up to the dot-com bust in 2000 as well as the run-up to the financial crisis in 2008 and 2010. so taking a more longer term, cyclical view i do have some concerns looking out there. melissa: so, jack, what do you think about that? that is the short version of that there is heck of a lot of extra money sloshing around and we may not have soaked it up in the 10% correction we had now we're coming right back from? >> i agree with a lot of that. one of the classic ways bull markets die you get a pickup in growth, get higher rates, get high every bond yields and ponds better compete for investor affection with stocks, investors sell their stocks. we had a test of that on wednesday.
an inflation number came in a little hot. bond yields rose. investors initially sold off their stocks. they said wait a second, what the heck are we doing. bond yields are so low to begin with. if they were close to the historical average they would be over 5%. they are 2.8%. we have a long way to go before bond investors even pay attention. melissa: paul you go around the world, you have practices all over the place and i assume people are constantly peppering what is going on in the u.s. are they locked into the as we are and as sensitive as the market came out and the news that came out about the mueller investigation? >> no you are right. i came back from 10 days in india and middle east and i was traveling throughout europe the week before that. i'm amazed amount of interest in u.s. politics you see in other parts. melissa: more than before. >> more than before. all that people want to talk about. as goes the u.s., as goes the rest of the world. melissa: jack, what do you think about that?
>> don't let your politics guide your investing decision. you love trump, cheer for trump, great. don't let it change the stock allocation. stay smart. we are in the end of a long bull market. i think you have another couple years left, but don't overdo it on the stocks. >> couple years? we like that. all right, guys, thank you so much. david? david: we have breaking news. in moments we will hear from broward county sheriff scott israel with update from the parkland, florida, shooting. we'll bring it to you live the moment it happens. startling official from the fbi. could the federal officials have prevented the massacre that left 17 people dead? now the florida governor demanding action. melissa: because of this horrific attack how do we put aside our political differences and come back together as a nation? alveda king, the niece of martin luther king, jr., joins us later this hour with some thoughts.
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david: breaking news. this is the broward county sheriff scott israel. let's listen in. >> students that lost their lives were laid to rest today. parkland continues as you know to mourn, to try and heal. to try to take something, to try to give some comfort to these families. i wanted to kind of give you an update on the case. you will hear from special agent in charge of the fbi in miami, rob lastky, then we'll take questions. we continue to follow up leads. our investigators working feverishly and fervently have spoken to or contacted almost 3200 students and 200 staff and
faculty. we do have seven people that still remain in the hospital. thank the lord that we have not added to our list of casualties. i wanted to clear up some rumors, innuendo, misinformation that might be out there. the killer never was in possession of a gas mask or any type of smoke grenades. we did recover a belaclava, for those that might not know is a face mask with eye slits. again there was no gas mask or no gas grenades at anytime. we heard that there were questions that the media had about where our school resource deputy was. our school resource deputy, deputy peterson, was on campus. he is armed. and i believe the campus at
stoneman douglas is approximately 45-acres. he never encountered the gunman. he never encountered the killer. every day we're learning something more and more about the killer. through search warrants we uncovered electronic devices and cell phones that tell us a little bit more about him. i will not be speaking specifically about either of these devices as the investigation continues. we have uncovered at the broward sheriff's office that we had approximately 20 calls for service over the last few years regarding the killer. we will continue to follow up as we do at any investigation. we want to find out why this killer did what he did, what we can learn for it, and how we
keep our kids safe moving forward. so everyone of these calls for service will be looked at and scrutinized. if we find out like in any investigation that one of our deputies or call-takers could have done something better or was remiss, i'll handle it accordingly. at this time i would like to bring up, rob laskey, special agent in charge of the federal bureau of investigation. >> good afternoon. as you have seen earlier today the fbi released a staple -- statement regarding information to our public act test line january 5th of this year. the caller provided information about nikolas cruz and the potential of him becoming a school shooter. under normal protocol this information should have been provided to the miami field office. there appropriate investigative steps would have been taken.
the fbi has determined that protocol was not followed. the information was not provided to the miami field office, and no further investigation was conducted at that time. the fbi is still investigating the facts of the situation. we will conduct an in depth review of our internal procedures for responding to information as provided by the public. the fbi remains dedicated to keeping the american people safe. on behalf of myself, and over 1,000 employees of the miami field office, we truly regret any additional pain this has caused. the men and women who work in the miami field office are part of this community. we walk the same streets. our children attend the same schools, to include stoneman douglas. we worship the same place.
we are part of this community. as this community hurts so do we. i want to thank you for your time and god bless. >> will you take questions about that? >> before we take questions, i did want to acknowledge i am so blessed to be able to sit here right now, stand here right now and tell you that the son of our deputies was released from the hospital. he is on the mend. he will heal. i pray one day he will be going back to stoneman douglas. behind me is our undersheriff, steve kinsey, major nicole anderson and colonel jack dale who provided exemplary leadership, incredible leadership as we continue to work through this tragic event. to my right is former mayor of parkland, current county commissioner from parkland, michael udine. another group of people i want
to thank enormously what they have down for broward county during this, our staff, our public information staff. they have worked through some trying times. they have had request after request. they stood tall and they have been amazing. so i want to thank them as well. any questions? reporter: [inaudible]. >> asorted calls for service. i don't, some of the calls for service we did not go out on. some of the people that called in were from other states. by call for service, that is a great question, a call for service simply means our dispatch center received a call. it didn't necessarily mean that we went out on something. it could have been a telefonic contact with deputy from a person from another state. we'll dissect death. reporter: [inaudible] >> i'm sure, talk about the psyche of the killer. had to be related to the killer. it was breaking of the law or a
crime, that i can't tell you. reporter: -- an address where he stayed? [inaudible] >> my hypothesis at this time is probably both. but my hypothesis would be more the killer than the address. reporter: what do you tell these families about the information about the fbi? do you believe that this -- [inaudible] >> i don't think anybody can say that. we still want to, we still want to encourage our community to see something, say something. you foe, we want to learn that is what these things are for. we were so much more proficient at this tragedy than we were at the airport. we took the things away. we learned, we trained. and, that at the end of the day, make no mistake about it, america, the only one to blame for this incident is the killer himself. reporter: special agent, just one question, how does the miami field office wrap its head around that you guys were kept
in the dark about this call -- [inaudible] >> it is difficult but we're professionals. like i said i have over 1000 agents or 1000 employees who come to work every day and do the best to protect america. almost all of them to a person would be making more money in the public, private service but they come to do this job because they love this job. they believe in the mission. they believe the fbi. they believe in law enforcement. reporter: how did you notify the families of -- reporter: [inaudible] called in january 5th. who was on the receiving end of the tip line? [inaudible] >> that is all under investigation. normally if a tip comes in, involves a credible threat of lime or limb, it is immediately elevated to a supervisor and provided out to the field office, appropriate field office. reporter: how did the fbi today
notify the 17 families? [inaudible] did you phone them? how were they notified and what were these meetings like if they happened? >> from what i understand the phone conversation or a phone -- was made to those families given the fact they were spread out all over. we attempted to provide them the news prior to it hitting public. reporter: what would you say that the -- [inaudible] >> the fbi, potential of the fbi to miss something is always there. we do our best. we have certain protocols to prevent these things. we will be looking into where and how if something, protocol broke down. we will come back stronger than we ever were before. reporter: before i take -- >> before i take the next question, i also want to say that, as we look and exercise our due diligence and we look at reports, look what we did right or what we might have done
wrong, and i'm not saying, our deputies made any mistakes but we'll also look at if laws changed, if baker act laws changed, what might our deputies or what might the fbi or what might police have been able to do differently if they had more empowerment. that is certainly something we'll look at as well. reporter: charging anyone with -- [inaudible] >> we have no reason to believe that right now. we have no reason to believe that right now. reporter: -- january 5th, with the sheriffs or any agencies, south florida get a similar tip on january 5th? >> that is probably one of 20 issues we're looking at, calls for service. these are things we'll look at. as they many could to fruition, they are investigated, we will be out here in a most transparent manner -- reporter: were they in -- or other broward agencies, calls for service? >> that that is a great questio. i know they were approximately 20 to bso.
reporter: -- on your radar, did you know about him? >> school certainly knew about him. i believe our school resource deputies knew about him. as soon as he came onto the campus, i understand that the security guards tried to contact him. i'm not going into anymore of that from now. we're trying to look at videos to piece that together. but it is quite possible they knew who he was. reporter: what happened at the school district when school administrators said that they needed to assess that this guy was an threat to assess. whatever the word is i'm sorry, the school district didn't follow up on that as well? >> i can't come men. i can't comment on that. reporter: is there something that the school district knew? reporter: can you talk about, special agent -- [inaudible]
>> the difference in the mississippi complaint, it actually made it to the field office where the january 5th call, the information never made it to the miami field office where the mississippi complaint made it to the jackson, mississippi fbi field office. reporter: went nowhere from there but [inaudible] >> we did the appropriate investigation of the information we had at the time. there was not enough to postively identify the subject, so it got closed at that point. >> i want to thank you all for being out here. we'll continue to keep you updated. there will come a time as reports are available to us we'll let you know how our deputies or any other law enforcement personnel performed in those reports. right now i spoke to one member of one of the deceased family today, and i asked you yesterday
to use good judgment and to treat these families with respect and stay away from them, allow them to grieve and you have. i wanted to mange the -- thank the media for that. thank you. [shouting questions] david: the sheriff of the broward county and fbi making a shocking admission owning up to the fact that information that they had on the perpetrator in the shootings in florida was not sent to the miami field office t was received by the fbi, january 5th tip, but it was not sent as per protocol to the miami field office. they owned up to that. we'll see what the repercussions are from that. joining us on the phone, jeff lanza, former fbi special agent. jeff, i first of all want to be very careful here, for the past seven or eight years now law enforcement in the united states taken a lot of heat, most of it i think unfairly so. i don't want to pile on right now but there was a frank
admission there from the man who is responsible for the fbi in miami, oversees 1000 people down there, saying protocol was to the followed. what is your reaction? >> well i saw what the fbi director said today as well, so when you hear that term, what they're really saying is, that system was in place that would have handled this situation differently and a person or more than one person did not follow the protocals that they are supposed to follow in handling that call. that is all they're saying. now we don't know the specifics of that. we may not know that for a while. but that is what happened here, someone didn't do what they were suppose to be done. david: what had happened, had the fbi in miami, field office received this information, what would they have then done with the information they didn't do because they didn't get it? >> most likely what would have happened is, they would determine how credible the threat was and most likely would have taken steps to determine if
the information was a valid and credible threat. that may have involved talking to the suspect, the subject and his family or people that knew him. david: now, even before we have had all of these admissions, we had this statement by the governor of the state of florida, rick scott, as everybody in florida is keeply moved by what happened. it is tough on the fbi but i want to read it out to you get your reaction. this is the governor speaking, the fbi admitted that they were contacted by a person to inform them of cruz's desire to kill people and potential of conducting a school shooting. seeing something, say something is an incredibly important tool and people must have confidence in the follow-through from law enforcement. the fbi director needs to resign. your response? >> he will with the governor is spot on with the assessment that about the public. i don't know that the fbi
director is something, should be resigning at this point based on this situation. i mean we need to know more details. what exactly happened with this information? was it put in the wrong pile by mistake? did someone say it wasn't credible enough to check out? did it fall through the cracks in another way? that is really what we need to know and before we know that information we can't make any assessments whose heads need to roll if any at this point. david: have you seen or heard about anything like this happening before where credible information did not make it to the field office where it could have done some good? >> not of this magnitude. i mean fbi gets a lot of tips every day. lots of people call up. lots of people supply information and majority of that is, turns out to be not useful at all for anything. we're not saying that the public shouldn't call the fbi but, you know, you just don't know what, when information comes in what
it will lead to. but when you have looks like a threat and it looks like violence may be involved, that is something you can not, you can not let fall by the wayside if that is what happened here. david: absolutely. thank you very of. jeff lanza, former fbi agent. we appreciate you coming in. melissa. melissa: week of recovery for stocks. this is the dow's best week since november of 2015. best week for the nasdaq in five years. there you go. david: thank goodness. after the tragedy in florida how can we come together as one nation without retreating to political corners? dr. alveda king, the niece of martin luther king, jr. responding after the break. plus robert mueller's probe, escalating, 13 russian nationals being indicted for interfering in u.s. elections. we have more on the fallout coming up.
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think about all the double miles you could be earning. (yelling) holy moly, that's a lot of miles! shh-h-h-h! ( ♪ ) shh! what's in your wallet? man: shh-h-h! >> in these moments of heartache and darkness we hold on to god's word in scripture, i have heard your prayer and seen your tears. i will heal you. we trust in that promise and we hold fast to our fellow americans in their time of sorrow. melissa: president trump urging the nation to come together to support our fellow man in the wake of wednesday's tragic school shooting in florida that killed 17 people.
joining me now is alveda king, niece of martin luther king, jr., ought are of, "america return to god." also a fox news contributor. recently nominated by president trump for the frederick douglass buy centennial commission. that is a lot. a big introduction there. i am glad you joined us today. i am so tired of the acrimony. no matter what the news event is. after a shooting people retreat to the corners about guns or mental health. seem likes it doesn't matter what the news event is, immediately people start cherry-picking and fighting. can any of these events kind of bring us to our senses to stop that? what do you think? >> i am so encouraged by the words of our president saying that god hears our prayers and god will heal us. i am broken-hearted about the
deaths of those who were actually killed and those who were traumatized by the shooting in florida. children are a exist from god and whether they are our most precious gifts whether born or unborn. i was at a school in georgia at award ceremony. it was a little subdued. the little girls and boys were dancing, playing instruments. you could tell their hearts were heavy. ii want to encourage families with lost, all those traumatized to hold on. president trump has spoken truly god hears our prayers. so we must pray for those who have lost. my grandfather, reverend martin luther king, sr., after his son reverend martin luther king, jr., was killed. after his son, my dad, had been killed during the civil rights movement, said thank god for
what we have left. let just begin as you just said, very clearly to come together. it division and fighting that's a problem. i am very concerned about the fbi. of course they said protocol wasn't followed so the information was not followed up on. it seems as though the young man was hidden in plain sight, giving real signals as to what he was going to do. and so all of the fightinging and infighting and skin color fighting we're not color-blind. we're americans and we're dealing with the loss of our precious children. may god really bless and heal this nation. people listen and pray, president trump is right. we need to talk to god about this. melissa: even when i heard the news about the russia indictments this afternoon, and when you hear that the whole intention was to just sow discord and get us fighting with each other, even to the extent
that they staged a rally for trump and a rally against trump in the same city on the same day, just kind of sat back and laughed as we all sat here and fought with each other, if that is not a lesson how foolish we're being, i don't foe what is . your thoughts. >> my father said the we must live together as brothers and sisters or die as fools. scripture says violence begets violence. we have to deal with the hearts of the people. and so our hearts are heavy but we must have hope. we must pray. we must be encouraged. i thank the president for those words. they're very wise. melissa: thank you so much for coming on. i know you had to wait through a lot of breaking news but we needed your words today on this friday. we do really appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you so much. david: meanwhile as melissa just
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david: breaking developments in the russian investigation. robert mueller indicting 13 russian nationals for interfering with the 2016 election. we have candidates scott you linger. this is extraordinary reading. like something out of television. i have to read one line how this operation was carried out. >> sure. david: defendants posing as u.s. persons and creating false u.s. personas operated social media pages and groups designed to attract u.s. audience. it is right out of, right out of
fiction, or the americans or whatever. this is a big operation. how long do you think it took to set up? >> i think that this has, it is rather extraordinary although russia has performed these kind of things before. seems like they put maybe a larger effort into this particular election. i'm sure that this has within going on for probably at least about two years. they cited as one of the entities involved, internet research agency, a very well-known hub of cyber and disinformation ops that russia uses. they have been very adept at manipulating the internet to affect not only a u.s. election but things like the british exit out of the eu. david: that one, only took 97 cents. i think that is total amount they spent. doesn't take a lot of money to get your message out on the internet. very quickly though, what do you think was involved? are there any other individuals
who must have been involved in setting up these personas? because it takes year to establish yourself in a neighborhood. >> that's right. certainly an internet persona would be a lot easier to establish. david: sure. >> russians have intelligence officers not only operated under a fish cover but operating under non-official or commercial cover could be setting up of these things, working out of the russian embassy or russian consulate in new york city. david: by the way do we have operations like this in russia. >> i'm sure that we do have some but of course they're going to be, we basically, as very free and open society the russians have inherent advantage here. anything we do is going to be orders of magnitude smaller and much more difficult to do. david: yeah. it is tough to pull that off in a police state. thank god we're not a police state. >> thank you. david: scott, good to see you my friend. >> thank you. melissa: sign after sign missed or ignored.
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melissa: searching for solutions, the fbi admitting did it not follow protocols following a crucial tip about the parkland shooter and americans are trying to figure out how to prevent the next tragedy. here with answers, daniel linsky. forker chief of the boston police department. i give the fbi credit that they owned up the fact that caller provided information to the fbi act public access line, his desire to kill people, his erratic behavior, his social media posts, even the idea he
thought that he might possibly conduct a school shooting. how surprising is it to you that this kind of information fell through the cracks? >> it is very surprising. clearly someone didn't do their job. that is not an indictment of every hard-working agent in the fbi office in miami. i worked personally with those folks, a lot of great agents down there but somebody didn't do their job and we have to figure out why and how to prevent that from going forward to occurring in the future. melissa: there is so much fingerpointinging whether at various people who dropped the ball but in this case seems like everyone failed. whether the school system didn't follow up after they expelled him or family services, with kids with both their parents die or any part of it, the background check, his weapons should have been taken away when he had hurt animals, there are a million different things. so it's, sort of a lot of people called for a comprehensive solution. you talked about, the behavioral
intervention response, a team that could come out, when they get a call like this, to kind of address all the issues, take weapons out of the home. see if the person needs mental health assistance. figure out what is going on with the family. is that an approach applicable to every community? do you think that it should be run federally? how do we get something like that in action everywhere to work effectively? >> it has to be based in the communities. that is the key to it. is it community-based and community support. in boston we had operation home front. a individual would be identified in school, having troubled behavior, going down the wrong path. school officials, police, boston police, social workers need be, public health, support, maybe it is the family life, we need to get support from for parents, maybe they need counseling or parenting skills. maybe homeless issue. we try to surround them with
services. the behavior in school is the symptom. the problem is what is going on with the kid we fix it. we have carrot-and-stick approach. try to wrap services on them, try to get them on the right path that way. if they don't, we're not opposed to using the stick approach, very them before crimes they are involved with, get them to a court, get them to a clinic if they behave and tighten up, if not we take them off the street. it has to be local-based where people care about the community. >> seems like a sensible solution. daniel, thank you for your time. we have to run. david: what a smart guy. indictment of a dozen people who love a particular fx series. can you guess which one? the answer is next. i say, "i'll go my own way" with anoro.
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unraveled today with the infiltrating american posing as americans and having rallies. david: well this was in the 1980 s but clearly it's still going on today that's what we found out. melissa: wow risk & reward starts right now. have a great weekend. >> the indictment charges 13 russian nationals and three ration companies for committing federal crimes while seeking to interfere in the united states political system. the defendants allegedly conduct the what they call information warfare against the united states. the stated goal of spreading distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general, with no allegation of the indictment and many effect on the outcome of the election and there's no allegation of this indictment of any american had any knowledge. liz: special counsel robert mueller's office said a federal grand jury brought the first
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