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> >> alisyn: thanks for joining us. we'll see you next week, but we leave you with some images. >> we begin this morning with a knocks news alert. the justice department is very eager to file charges against the only surviving suspect in the boston marathon terror attacks, but it's unclear when they'll be able to do that, and actually what those charges might be. we're told that 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev is in the hospital where he remains in serious condition and at this hour he's protected by armed guards. police did capture him, bloodied and battered friday night, hiding out in a tarp-covered boat in someone's back yard, but not before a final fire fight full of gunfire and explosions. one of two that we actually watched unfold that day. good morning, everybody, and welcome to america's news headquarters.
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i'm jamie colby. >> i'm eric shawn. good morning, jamie. >> good morning. >> good morning, everyone. the fbi and that special high value federal investigative team very obviously anxious to start asking questions. we're told that the suspected terrorist is in no condition to talk. governor patrick said dzhokhar is not communicative at this point. he has at least two gunshot wounds, we're told, apparently one from the carjacking bomb throwing incident thursday night. he happens to be in the same hospital that's treating about a dozen of the bombing victims. that's where we find molly line at beth israel in downtown boston. good morning, molly. >> reporter: good morning, shawn. dzhokhadzhokhar tsarnaev is undy guard. as you mentioned, there are federal authorities here looking forward to asking him some very important questions. we have some new information from the boston police commissioner, ed davis, who on "fox news sunday" said that the fbi has not been able to start questioning this suspect because he is in no condition to be interrogated. we know that he's in serious
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condition and that an atf spokesperson told the "new york times" that he had been shot in the neck and in the leg and that at least one of those injuries came during the course of that early-morning shootout with the watertown police department. commissioner davis believes that this suspect had some pretty big plans for further violence. take a listen to commissioner davis. >> they clearly had other explosives. they detonated those explosives at the scene of the arrest and the shootout in watertown. we feel that they had plans to use those explosives, possibly on soft targets. >> so you think there were plans for more attacks on the homeland? >> that's my assessment based upon the fact that there are significant number of explosives found at the scene of the arrest. >> reporter: also, remember that mit police officer, sean collier, 26 years old, was murdered thursday night. he was ambushed, shot in the back of the head, according to
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the chief of the watertown police department. also another officer was gravely wounded in a gun battle with the suspects, mbta officer, richard donahue, 33 years old. he remains hospitalized in crinld. donahue and collier knew each other. they graduated together from the municipal police officers academy in 2010. as sean mentioned, the victims of the boston marathon bombing, many are still here. we have word there are 10 victims still in the hospital, one in serious condition, one in fair, and eight in good condition. thanks so much. >> coming up in the next hour, we'll get back to molly and asking this questn. how did the fbi apparently miss the brothers? are there more out there? did they allegedly have any help? you know the fbi, we're told, talked to the older brother last year. we'll speak with republican congressman mike mccaul, the chairman of the homeland security committee and we'll ask him about what is being done,
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how the fbi can better protect us and if a terrorist attack like this can happen again. >> the fbi has their guy, at least one of the two. step in te investigation will be trying to talk to him and getting answers. investigators saying they have a million questions, as you can imagine, for the sole surviving suspect. they particularly want to know about his motives, also the methods and possibly if there was third party involvement. where did they get the money to put this whole plan together. they'll also want to know and interrogate him at this point without reading him his miranda rights. i want you to meet a former deputy assistant director of the fbi's counterterrorism division. you handled practically every high profile case of bombing that we've seen in this country, including the unabomber case and the olympic bombing. thanks so much for being with us. >> good morning, jamie, you're welcome. >> we had chance to talk in the middle of the night the other night. >> we did. >> now we can reflect.
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we have the suspect in custody. it seems to me this is a huge investigation still, even though there's tons of evidence. you have multiple crime scenes, multiple devices, and a million questions. what will the fbi want to know first? >> well, now the investigation really gets underway, and we talked last night in the middle of the night about the search for the subjects, but now we're really going to focus in on how did these people live? how did they exist? what were they doing in the months and the years preceding these bombings, and particularly in the weeks and days before they actually committed these crimes? so we're going to want to know about their finances. you talked about that. how did they support nems? where did they get their money? we'll be conduct yg searches, probably more seares, and searches have been conducted in places associated with these people. from those searches we'll find out a great deal. think about it. when you think back to the una bomber case. the una bomber had 55,000 pages of handwritten notes in his cabin.
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he had talked about and had basically written about every day of his life for years. these people may very well have done something similar. eric robert are you dolphin rudd to a lot of people he knew and where he had been, the olympic bomber. in fact, you find out great deal of information from friends and associates. obviously we want to put together the evidence chain that leads to these bombings and further fix this case for trial, but we also want to try to determine if anybody else was involved in this. >> one more thing. critical information. what else might be on the horizon out there? has the face of terror, especially on our soil, changed given the fact that these boys, suspected terrorists, were living in a neighborhood among others? listen, it could be our neighbor, too, at this point. we have to protect america against other incidents that they may be related to or not related to based on third parties. we're up against the clock, aren't we?
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>> we are up against the clock. that's why this is so you are jebt and why it's important to talk to him. there's a lot of debate about-mile-an-hour ran da. let's put that in perspective. mirandaizeing someone per tains to a custodial investigation. if you're going to be using confessions and admissions in that interrogation, subsequently in a court trial, in this instance they probably have a pretty good case. they've made a decision that the public safety now mandates trying to do everything they can to get him to talk to them. now the entire case also will swing towards motivation. what did these people do this for? why did he they do this? what we found as we started looking more into serial bombers and serial killers is that serial bombers are really idealogues. they don't do it for personal gain or not notoriety. they do it for the ideology. >> the cause. quick question.
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only 15 second. what are the chances that he talks? it seems that the older brother may have been the one that began on this path. what are the chab chances that y actually get this suspect to talk, assuming he lives? >> he may very well talk. theoreric rudolph didn't talk t, but saddam hussein talked to us eventually. this man may very well talk to us. whether he's mirandized or not. too early to tell. it depends on the person he is and where he is as far as his thinking. we'll soon find out. hopefully he'll come out of this and we'll know. >> at least one family member, his uncle, encouraged him to not only turn himself in but cooperate and said he was a disgrace. thank you, terry. i really hope we talk ben. you've been so helpful to us here at fox. thank you. >> jamie, you're very welcome. thank you. >> eric. jamie, the investigation going global from boston to moscow. both brothers were born in the russian republic of chechnya in
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it's a region with deep ties to extremism. authorities are investigating tamerlan's trip to russia and his posting of videos on the internet when he came back. john bolton, former ambassador to the united nations joinses as he does every sunday. good morning, ambassador. >> good morning, eric. glad to be with you. >> the chechnyan terrorists have the blood of hundreds on their hands. are they a threat to us? >> potentially they are. that's an important question for investigators to answer, not because of anything having to do with their desire from chechnyan nndz froneppedzindependence frot because ove many chechnyan actis are radicalized. now their terrorist activities are in places as diverse as
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throughout the middle east and afghanisn, having nothing to do with russia about having to do with islamic extremism. that's a working hypothesis, something we ought to be investigating. >> there are reports that the chechnyn rebels are denying any link with the brothers, saying their war is with russia, not the u.s. how does that play out if this is indeed the case? >> there are two motivating factors for the chechnyans. one is hate for russia and the other is radical islam. the terrorists have, many of them, have been divorced from the struggle against russia and simply incorporated into international terrorist activities. for example, in the case of the tsarnaev brothers, the immediate were armedia arereporting reporting they were granted asylum. you have to demonstrate in your application that you've been subject to persecution or that you have a well founded fear of persecution i. if they said we fear the
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russians, they were admitting they were part of the chechnyan resistance. that's a good place to start. >> to be more specific, what does that mean? could they have been used, or is that meght mat? >> it's an open question whether they were sent here at a tender age to pose the possibility of terrorist activity in this country. you know, the conventional wisdom which seems to form pretty quickly in these kinds of events has that they were radicalized here in the united states, and that is certainly possible. >>possible. it's just as possible they were sent here by their handlers. if you're prepared to kill small children, you're certainly prepared to use small children as killers. >> you know, the younger younger is said to be a typical american by his high school friend who i talked to yesterday. he spent 10 years here. his older brother, tamerlan there on the right, apparently went last january for six months to russia, returned in july, a month later he supposedly posting these videos on the
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internet. do we know who he met, who he talked with? his father said he visited his family. >> well, this is a huge question. woone wonders how they got backn the country after six' months in russia without examination. let me take this notion that they look like all american guys. you know, the terrorists are not going to wear tin file o foil or ears. they're not going to fly the black flag of al-qaeda in their yard. the point is to assimilate, to mislead people. back in the days of the cold war, soviet spies didn't wear their politics on their sleeve. they tried to fit in. they tried it look like members of the establishment. look at aljer hiss. he was a supreme court court. his brother was a law partner. how could he be a communist spy? yet, he was. terrorists can learn that lesson. the best way to avoid scrutiny is to look like you fit in. >> we just had anna chatman,
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remember her, the sexy russian spy who is moscow and putin gave her an award. you raise a point about letting him back into the country, not just the first time but last year when he came back from russia. has there been an unfortunate pattern of that? egypt didn't want theli sheikh. he's convicted of being the leader of the cell that went to attack the world trade center in 1993 and plot the bombing of landmarks. he's a notorious convicted international terrorist. where is the gap? where are the holes? have we made mistakes? >> i think there are a lot of holes in our immigration system. look. i speak as someone who favors more legal immigration, but i can tell you. when i was at the justice department in the 1980s, fbi agents came and told me there were 10,000 iranian graduate students in the country and they weren't studying english literature. they were studying fist physicd
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math. >> did you say 10,000? >> in the late '80s they were afraid -- i'm afraid they were studying math and physics and are working for the iranian government back home. if this is true that they were granted asylum, political asylum, then one wants to know why their applications weren't scrutinized when the fbi interviewed the older brother and didn't find any evidence of terrorism, but he then goes to russia for six months, comes back into the country, doesn't that raise any red flags? i mean, these are all things i think congress needs to take a very, very careful look at. >> we're told that on september 5th, just seven months ago, tamerlan was applying or processing his citizenship request. certainly that must be under investigation. ambassador bolton, thank you, as always. >> thank you, eric. >> jamie. runners around the world are paying tribute to the bombing victims in boston.
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a very so let me moment. thousands observing a moment of silence. many wearing black arm bands as a sign of solidarity. and then in the west bank, hundreds taking part in their very first marathon. one runner wearing a t-shirt depicting 8-year-old martin richard. you can see it there. the youngest of three who were killed in the boston bombings. in germany, some 15,000 runners raced in the ham burg marathon, participants wearing arm bands there with the logan run for boston. jamie, also this morning there's been a devastating earthquake in southwest china. coming up, how rescue crews are feverishly working to reach an isolated quake-ravaged community to try and help those who have been affected. plus, the investigation into the boston marathon bombing is pressing forward. boston's police commissioner
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>> eric: there's been a devastate being earthquake in china overnight. rescue teams are trying to reach as many victims as they can. the 6.6 magnitude quake in
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southwestern china occurred overnight. reports say more than 200 peopl have been killed, an astounding 11,000 injured. we're told there have also been about 100 after shocks. emergency crews have been using helicopters to try and reach the isolated communities, and in some cases we're told using dynamite to clear away landslides blocking access to a lot of the victims. > >> jamie: we're keeping a close eye on the investigati into the boston marathon bombing, and it's definitely kicking into high gear at this hour. boston police commissioner ed davis appearingn "fox news sunday" this morning. he said if the tsarnaev brothers hadn't been found, they may have actually carried out additional attacks. >> we have already searched many of the locations that we know are directly connected with the two brothers. they clearly had other
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explosives. they detonated those explosives at the scene of the arrest and shootout in watertown. we feel they had plans to use those explosives possibly on soft targets. >> jamie: joining me now, t anchor of "fox news sunday", chris walla i'm sure you told him, chris, your hat' hat's off as ours is e police work that was done. the fact that they were able to find him so quickly after this took place. >>bsutely, and when you hear what the commissioner said which is that they had more explosives which obviously they used. they were throwing it at police during the final shootout in watertow and he believes that they intended to use the on other targets. of course, all of that ended when the police released that video on thursday afternoon tha identified them. he said they didn't know w they were, and they still were investigating, weren't closing in on them at all, and that the two brothers apparently just decided to go on a killing spree to go out in a final burst of
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violence. >> jamie: i think what america learned, seeing this all unfold, two shootouts live on tv, fortunately with a delay in one day, and the fact that all the agencies came together and got this done and took him ave is very comforting, bute question that it could be your neighbor is also frightening. is it too soon for the commissioner to say what changey to prevent it from happening and protect ourselves going forward? >> well, he said look and we talked on the show to a number of people, not just the commissioner but aso the senate intelligence committee chair, dianneeinstein, the head of the homeland counter terrorism subcommittee, pete king, the police chief of philadelphia, charles ramsey. they all say when you're talking about a small domestic terror cell like this, and at this point they all seem to think that's what it was. i asked the police commissioner in boston that specifically. he sai you know, there may have been other people on the
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fringes, we don't know that yet. it really seems it was tse two brothers acting alone. he said it's almost impossible to stop them. in the past we've been very lucky in some cases. the explosives haven't gone off, but you can't identify two people who did that they're going to try to kill people. >> jamie: what a panel. i know generally your show focuses on polits and does it expertly, but this is so important. i'm sure many people are going toat to learn where we go from here. chris, thanks so much for bringing us a preview. >> thank you so much, jamie. >> jamie: take care. for more of chris' interview with the boston police commissioner, ed davis, as you heard and so much more, tune in to "fox news sunday". as chris said, he will sit down with california democratic senator dianne feinstein, new york republican congressman peter king to discuss what the marathon bombing means for the fight against terrorism. clearly this was terrorism. "fox news sunday", 2 p.m. and 6 p.m. eaer only on fox. eric?
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>> eric: you know, jamie, the terror of what happened in boston, you did not have to be there physically yourself to suffer some of the forgets. you know, we've all seen the video tapes that were taken over and over again. have you suffered from this fear, from this panic, from this tor? what are the effects and how do we all deal with what we've been going through over the past week because of t developments in boston? coming up, we'll have the doctors and sunday house call will give us the latest on how we all can cope and deal with what we've seen. [ male announcer ] extreme power. ultimate savings.
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>> eric: time for "sunday housecall". as always, joining us this morning is dr. david samadi. he's vice chairman of the department of urology and chief of robotics here at migh mount h knee. >> dr. marc siegel is here with
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us as well. author of the inner pulse. unlocking the secret code of sickness and health. good to have you both. if only we could unlock why somebody does this. what a week. even though you've seen trauma and a lot of patients suffering, i'm sure you were affected as well. dr. samadi, you start. how do people cope with especially with social media and television being able to see this and you feel like you're a participate at-bat? >> jamie, let me just say it was a very difficult week for america, and my heart and all of our prayers are with the family who went through this. we had fairly good news towards the end of the week and hopefully that will help everyone to cope, but we're talking about ptsd, post traumatic stress disorder. this is a real anxiety disorder that can affect a lot of us, some that were in the middle of the field and some that were just watching tv or on facebook and watching it. this is the real deal. about five million americans are usually affected by ptsd, and
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the most important thing is to recognize it and the best and simplest way to understand ptsd is this pneumonic. i like pneumonic because that's how i learned in medical school, a very easy way. the word trauma is the key word for ptsz. t is for trauma. some sort of a tragedy like this, it's a normal behavior to an abnormal event. it could be not just a war, but it could be flooding, could be the scene of a rape or loss of a loved one. all of that is a tragedy. r is remembering it. you relive the images, the nightmares, the flash backs. jaip my, this ijamie, this is i. people saw the blood with the marathon runners. the next phase is avoidance. they don't want to deal with anybody else. they become emotionally number and don't want to interact and become home bound. that's when the family relationships and the union starts to break. that's when it really becomes
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important. >> jamie: that's a tipoff. >> it's a tipoff. they become unable to function. they may lose their job. they don't want to ente interacd socially become completely handicapped. if the symptoms go on for a month, that's real p tsd. if it's less than that, it's acute stress syndrome. finally, they become angry, irritable. they can get into fights over simple things. recognizing the symptoms and intervening early on is absolutely key, and that's the first phase of coping, jamie. >> jamie: that's fantastic because we want to take care, especially children, dr. siegel. >> i'll start with that point and i'll go back to the physiology. our children are watching us and will react as we react. if we're worried, they're worried. if we're calm, they're calm. if we teach them pe perspective, they learn perspective. to get back to the point about ptsz, here's how it works in the brain. thrrthere's a fear center in the brain, probably the most
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powerful organ in the body, responsible for all of our most powerful emotions. that's why as david said, we have a more positive narrative towards the end of the week. the guys were caught, you know. the one was killed, one was brought in. that's a positive narrative. the narrative of the medical responders, that was a great story for the public to watch because those stories trigger more positive emotions. the fear emotion releases stress hormones, adrenaline, noradrenaline, cortisone. they can wear you down. they create what i have written about and call a cycle of worry. you ask the question about can anyone get ptsd, not just the people involved. i want to talk about that for a minute. in boston first there's the people that were involved in the event. they got injured or they were right there when the bombs went off. that's the inner circle. then there's the rest of the city that went on lockdown for a couple of weeks. then there's the rest of us watching these images on tv. do you know that there's a study from elizabeth phelps at nyu that shows that if you simply
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watch a video of violent events occurring, you can have some of the same reactions yourself. that's why 5% of new york was affected with ptsd type symptoms after 9/11. 20% of the people close in, 95% of the people in the buildings, but 5% of the rest of us who simply reacted to the images on tv. >> jamie: what happens to us? what are the health concerns of someone who is going through this? dr. siegel first. >> i'm concerned about how it affects your heart, the risk of depression, a risk of anxiety. with all catastrophes, if you get too connected, there's a risk of depression and anxiety. there's a risk of your heart rate going up, your bloop going up -- blood pressure going up, gaining weight, heart disease or stroke. >> it's a real entity, real yo logic changes that happen. if you check the blood for some of these patients, the level of norepinephrine is high. that leads to the blood pressure and heart disease over time and
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it's high. jamie, the sooner we intervene, the better. >> jamie: that's what i want to know. is it better to talk about it, or does that raise the anxiety even more? >> we'll get to therapy in the later part of the segment. the more you open up and talk about it, the better it is. it's good for family members to know there are a lot of hotlines to seek help. if you don't intervene, what happens is the next phase of this becomes drug abuse, alcohol, and suicidal. what i want people to know also, that is not everyone will be affected by this. when you have a trauma like this, only about 20% of people may actually get affected. my son came to me, he's 8 years old, and say what does marathon bombing mean? he thought this is a part of the fireworks at the finish line, they're celebrating. there's a different language to speak. i turn off the tv and i see the exposure, less exposure you have, the better it is. >> you raise a good issue. i mean, look. a ul oveall over the country, au
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see the bombings in real-time as they happen. you see this video all the time, dr. siegel, replayed. you see the bloody limbs, the injuries, the blood on the sidewalk. it affects us. who do you talk to? the clergy, a therapist, your doctor? what can we do about this? >> you talk to your friends, role models. talking is important. number two, let's try to put the information in exper perspectiv, eric. as horrible as this is, is there anything wrong when saying only three people died when 700,000 die of heart disease. >> eric: that's a different thing. >> i'll explain why. i want to connect that. look. when a loud noise occurs this week, we think a bomb is going off in our neighborhood. we think we're going to be next. it's a normal reaction, but it's not likely. we have to remember that it is not likely. it doesn't mean because this happened, it's going to happen to us, but we overpersonalize the risk. when you tie in voyeur systemly tvoyeuristicallyto an image on ,
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that's the fear memory. it's so powerful that it interferes with your ability to see what your own personal risk is. >> eric: dr. samadi, i was looking in garbage cans when i was reporting on this in boston. you look to see if there's a knapsack or a bag. >> that's causing a lot of fear among us. i hope we won't have any more of these tragedies in our society, but if you look at the way we behave toward this, any kind of loud noise today is going to make everyone aware. israelis, not that they're used to this, but their system, this memory system is used to this, so they can react really well. then when we get to the therapy, going back to the sceen and trying to dedesens desense deseg to church, clergy, take advantage of. >> try to put in positive emotions like courage and caring. the tool of terrorism is fear.
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it's not bombs. >> eric: it's important, as you say, to put it in perspective for all of us. >> jamie: the desensitize is interesting. they do that to military members. they take them to the scene where they were hurt. i don't know if you can heifer desenseitize all this. there were reports of runners heading to donate blood. perhaps this is a good part of the story. you don't have to wait until a disaster, though, to help out. we'll have more advice from "sunday housecall" on what you can do to help others. the latest on a texas community. they are also in recovery, a horrific blast that swept an entire enabled. that's next. ♪
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>> jamie: welcome back, everybody. we've been talking a lot about what happened in boston and obviously so many people were affected, but think about this. there were also other scaries this week. ricin sent to capitol hill members and the president and also that explosion in texas, so many were injured or lost their lives. i want to ask the doctor about some of the therapies. you've encouraged people to get help, there are hotline, but what about treatments? dr. samadi. >> the best way to deal with ptsd is cognitive behavior or therapy. it's a lot of words about having your psychologists and psychiatrists who sit with you and try it change the way you feel, the way th you think. some of the new technologies i like is this virtual realities where we take you to the lab and you're actually watching the video of this scene and slowly monitoring your heart rate, your blood pressure, and over time, that's the word that you use, it's to desensitize you to that
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trauma. it's almost like being afraid of height and you go back again to the same thing and you get better and better. that's a big thing, exposure therapy, that's a big part of it. >> jamie: are you talking about like two weeks of treatment, a month of treatment, or some people are genetically prone to anxiety where maybe they need to be, you know, protectively on some treatment? >> absolutely. it may be months and months, or it may actually lead into underlying psychiatric problems that preexisted this that may be brought out. there's a group of people that not only -- cognitive behavioral therapy is number one. david is right. diversionary activities are important, too, getting back to laughter and daily life is hugely important. jamie, for some of us, it's necessary to give medication, anti-anxiety medication helps a lot to break the cycle of worry, to get people back to sleep at night. 20 to 30% of people who have ptsd suffer from depression. they may do well with anti-depressants, ssri prozac
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type of medications may work. there's also studies on a drug that i would use for the heart, but it also helps people to distance themselves from very traumatic events. studies show that they have less flashbacks, that they have less nightmares if they take a drug called a beta blocker. >> eric: you just mentioned some medicines. what if you have xanax or at van or this sort of thing? do you ask your doctor for that, and at what level? >> the experts will tell you what's necessary, and i think there could be room, as you mentioned, some of these anti-anxiety medications or anti-depressants, pack paxil and zoloft. the beta blocker is supposed to reduce the heart rate. a lot of times patients as their hearts start to race is when the adgeanxiety kicks in. by controlling that, it's almost a biofeedback by controlling them. i think there's a lot of hope. recognition and knowing that there's a problem, talking to people around you and certainly
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seeking help is absolutely the way to to go. there is therapy for this, and there is help, no question. >> to your point, jamie, for the majority of people, they're going to get better, whether it's with medication or with therapy. they're going to get better. for those that aren't getting better, ongoing treatment. >> jamie: appreciate the encouragement for all those out there and for them to seek assistance. thank you, doctors, much more ahead. >> eric: one of the most inspiring stories of what happened in boston are the people who ran unselfishly and gave blood. you don't have to wait for an attack, a terrorist attack like this to try and help other people. what we need to know about helping others. giving blood, donating at the red cross. the doctors will fill us in on how we can all help our fellow americans. if you've got it, you know how hard it can be to breathe and man, you know how that feels. copd includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis. spiriva is a once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that helps open my obstructed airways for a full 24 hours.
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>> jamie: it probably doesn't come as a surprise to you, everyone, that experts urge year-round donations to keep our blood banks full in case of an emergency, and dr. samadi, what do you advise folks? it shouldn't take a tragedy for us to think about it. >> we should all jump in and obviously roll up our sleeves and donate blood. in the last 15 years, the blood bank is claiming that is their lowest supply of blood, and this is really dangerous.
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50,000 units less than last year, so we all have to jump in. a lot of this has to do with the weather and the storm and other things, so this is a time, and we need it. now, besides saving lives and besides being a hero, there are advantages, medical advantages, of donating your blood. the health screen that you go through, they check your vital signs, your bloop, they check your cholesterol. they check you for hiv and hepatitis. those are benefits that come with it. >> jamie: for free. >> that's part of it. you have to go through this, you have to be 17 years old and older and over 110 pounds and older before you are a candidate to do this. obviously pregnant women are not good candidates and other medical issues, but there is a fear that we're going to be talking about that if you give blood, by reducing the amount of iron in your blood, whether you're going to reduce the risk of heart disease, and there's a theory about this. especially among women, before menopause, the risk of heart disease is lower because of monthly menstrual periods, but after menopause, and men have
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higher risk of heart disease because they don't have that. now, whether its the effect of evidenestrogen or the iron goin, we don't know. there's a lot of health benefits. you should do it. >> jamie: people think oh, my gosh, if i give blood, i'll have less blood. does it regenerate, and how quickly? >> absolutely. you can safely give a pint of blood every two months. four to five million americans need a tran fusion every year. i want to reassure people out there that the blood supply has never been safer. the risk of hiv is one in 2 million, the risk of hepatitis, one in a million. very well screened, very safe. the problem is this month the red cross is reporting a shortage of 50,000 pints of blood. did you know that 37% of americans are eligible to give blood but only 10% of us do? if we could raise that to 11%, if all of our viewers out there today say i'm going to give pint of blood, there's going to be no shortages in the united states. we need at least one percent
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from this program. >> jamie: what type are you, what blood type? >> that's a great question. >> jamie: you should give just to find out. >> we have to recover from your reporting, you need to give blood next one. >> eric: this is important. shouldn't you know he what your blood type is in i would guess i'm o. i have no idea. >> you'll find out next month. >> eric: that's good advice to always know, carry in your wallet, or some people have diabetes or whatever. >> o is the universal donor. some blood types are more important than others. that's a really good point. we've been blood typing for over 100 years. everyone should know their blood type. >> jamie: why do we have different blood types? it's different ant jens. you're healthy no matter what your blood type is. do you know what type? i found out because i gave. >> this is really important,
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jamie. when i did a lot of trauma surgery, we go through some units of blood in a matter of seconds in order to save someone'someone's life. you cannot afford to have empty blood bank. i encourage everybody, as marc mentioned, to go out and make sure you donate. >> jamie: the red cross is the best place. >> the red cross is great, but there's a new york city blood center. every region in the country has their own blood centers you can go to. before surgery, some surgeries like heart surgery, bone surgery, you're logi urologic s. it's wise to give your blood you don't need blood for dr. samadi's surgery. >> eric: when you go get blood, you get cracker and a cup of orange juice. you're okay. >> jamie: eric, you won't faint. >> eric: a month from now. >> give your own before you have surgery. >> >> jamie: that's so smart. what happens to your blood after? you can help somebody else if you don't need it. good plan, doctors, thank you. >> we'll get some crackers.
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>> it lasts for a month to month and a half. >> jamie: we know eric looks cookie and -- likes cookie and juice and not just yogurt. >> eric: there are some fatty foods that they say are actually good for you. i don't believe it. these guys were all stringing us out. that's coming up on "sunday housecall". [ male announcer ] this is betsy. her long day of pick ups and drop offs begins with arthritis pain... and a choice. take up to 6 tylenol in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. all aboard. ♪ >> announcer: introducing the redesigned jitterbug plus, our smartest, easiest
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>> fox news reporting, eric is a skeptic. he doesn't believe there are fatty foods that are good for you. he thinks a fatty food is a ring ding. we learned in in our last block. you probably think of burgers and fries. but there are foods that are high in fat that could be good for your diet. >> eric is absolutely wrong. there are good fats. there is good, bad and ugly. the good fat -- you know, look, you need fat to survive. without fat, you cannot surrife you need it to absorb vitamins and minerals. it is unsaturated, whether it's monoor polyunsaturate audio salmon, olive oil with your salad. those are good fat, eric. the bad fat are the ones that are saturated. beef, chicken, cheese, ice cream, you know, all of that.
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the transfat is the ugly once. that's the burger and french fries and cookies and pizza and all of those. you want to stay away from that. but the good fat -- avocado is my favorite one. you absolutely need it. >> i want to talk about the nuts. nuts are great for you. coconuts have saturated fats, but the body treat its like an unsaturated fat and it doesn't seem to raise cholesterol. coconut. walnuts have omega 3s, which are good for your heart and brain. almonds have polyfeinals, they shut off hunger -- >> jamie: salted or unsaltd? >> unsalted. hazelnuts make oxide and improves sexual function in men and women. >> jamie: what a great sunday house cowl. thanks so much. >> eric: thank you, doctors.
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our thoughts and prayers with them. >> jamie: have a great week. see you next sunday. >> eric: a new hour here on the fox newschannel with a fox news alert. what charges will dzhokhar tsarnaev eventually face? a lawyer told us that the u.s. attorney in boston, carmen ortiz is weighing that information. it could be terrorism, or the use of a weapons of mass destruction and potential multiple murder counts that could be filed by the commonwealth of massachusetts. right at this moment, this morning, the 19-year-old remains in a boston hospital. he is in serious but stable condition, we are toll, heavily protected by armed guards. also, we're told that a special federal team is waiting to try to talk to him. good morning. this is a brand-new hour here on america's news headquarters. >> jamie: it's been a very busy week. we are going to tell you everything you need to know today. we are told right now that dzhokhar tsarnaev is in no
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condition to talk to the feds, at least not yet. but we are told, he has two gunshot wound, one from the carjacking bomb throwing that police chase, he and his brother, thursday night. we have team fox coverage for you this morning. mike tobin is in watertown, where police cornered and captured the suspect on friday night. the community trying to recover today. but we start at beth israel hospital in boston. the suspect and several victims being treated there. hi, molly. >> reporter: hi, jamie. that's right. dzhokhar tsarnaev is being treated by the doctors, under heavy guard, understandably. the authorities are standing by, ready to talk to him when he becomes able to talk. eddavis spoke on "fox news sunday." he said the fbi has not been able to start an interrogation because he is not in a condition to be interrogated. take a listen to the commissioner. >> the suspect is in serious but
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stable condition. the questioning's going to be done by a special team, sent in by the fbi. as far as i know, that has not happened yet. >> reporter: is he able to speak? is he in a condition to speak? or are they waiting for that? >> he is in no condition to be interrogated at this point in time. we is progressing and we are monitoring the situations carefully. >> reporter: an atf spokesperson says a gun wound occurred to his neck and leg or hit his neck and leg. at least one injury came from the first shootout. we know that because there was blood found across watertown, where he was ultimately captured. also, we should all remember, an m.i.t. police officer, sean collier, lost his life, thursday night, ambushed, shot in the back of the head, according to the chief of the watertown police department. and another officer gravely wounded in that gun battle with the suspects.
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he remains hospitalized. an mbta officer, richard donahue, 33iers old. he is in critical condition at this hour. donahue and collier knew each other, they graduated from the municipal police officers academy in 2010. we are still awaiting word on charges against the suspect here at the hospital. they could come as early as today, possibly while he is hospitalized. no confirmation on that. we are waiting for the authorities and what the charges may be. >> jamie: my sense is that this will develop throughout the day. thanks for staying on this. >> eric: from the moment the first bomb went off at the finish line at the boston marathon on monday, the people of boston have been living on the edge of fear. the dark specter of terrorism loming over that wonderful tell city and their lives. and on friday, a million bostonnians in several cities from watertown to cambridge, they were confined to their homes, they were not allowed out because of that shelter in
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order. there is unbearable heartbreak and sadness for the victim this is weekend. and suddenly, that wave of celebration and relief when police captured dpok dock friday night. the nation and particularly that city starts to begin the process of healing. mike tobin, live in watertown with the very latest. good morning, mike. >> reporter: you know, just as dzhokhar tsarnaev was taken into custody and the spontaneous street celebration, the people said with the immediate threat gone they can start turning their attention to those who lost their lives. that's exactly what they did. several hundred people gathered in a nearby ball field and lit candles, in recognition not only to the people who lost their lives, but to the federal and local authority who is helped to bring this thing to a resolution. wilmington, another visual for m.i.t. campus police officer, sean collier, shot several times while sitting in his car at
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10:30 p.m. on thursday as the chase and gun battle flared. fenway park, baseball fans, promising to be boston strong. >> healing, i guess, you know? it's a roller coaster ride. it's only monday, but it seisms like it's been weeks, you know? just a lot of healing, everybody coming together. >> it's all over. it's all over. i got season tickets, i wouldn't be afraid, after they got the last guy, we felt totally safe coming down and thought it would be a good way to celebrate, you know, how strong this country is and how strong boston is. >> reporter: people are spontaneously baking food, bringing it to police stations. the officer standing behind us, a couple walked up to them and gave them a bouquet of flowers. the officers are wearing black bands across their badges. you see all sorts of spontaneous
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and random unity. a traffic sign on the way in hire is right now flashing a sign that says one boston. a lot of spontaneity and a lot of effort for healing and unity. >> eric: the prayers and thoughts of all mishes are with them in that city today. mike tobin, thanks. >> eric: coming up. we will ask: how do we stop the next one? michael mccall is the chairman of the house homeland security committee. he is calling for a federal investigation about how the government may not have protected us from tamerian tsarnaev. what he wants, what we do next, in 20 minutes. >> jamie: can't wait for that. marathon runners runners in lone paying tribute to their own victims. thens showed up to observe a pre-race moment of sillulence. many of the runirs in addition wore black arm bands. they wanted to show their
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solidarity with those who were killed and injured in boston. runners are a special breed. they had extra security if place for that event, put something spectators' minds at ease. >> obviously, it's on your mind because it's awful. but i don't think tell happen here t. doesn't worry me. i said, all the more reason to be here, solidarity with the people. >> very sad. especially at buckingham palace. not worried at all. >> it's on my mind. i am really, really upset about what happened there. this, we are doing in support. all the runirs are wearing the black arm bands. it's a beautiful day. it's a great time. i am here to support my son and my daughter who is about to run past any minute now. but life goes on. >> jamie: london organizers pledged to donate $3 for every finisher of the race to a fund that has been set up to benefit the boston bomb victims.
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>> eric: did he ever talk politics? >> never at all. really casual. we would hang out. smoked pot, every now and then, listened to rap music. nothing out of the ordinary. i wouldn't put him aside from any of my friends? >> did he ever talk america or hatred for this country? >> not at all. he didn't talk about -- pro-america, i'm against america. we didn't get into that. but if i had to pick, i would never assume he had those type of views at all. >> eric: that's a pal of dzhokhar tsarnaev, who like others told me he was a normal american kid and popular member of the wrestling team and he took a girl to the prom at the prestigious high school just down the street from harvard. so how do you go from that black tie, red carnation, formal, to an accused bomb-carrier terrorists on the streets of
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boston? walid fares joins us now. if they were radicalized, in jihad, can you explain how does this happen to what had been seemingly a normal american kid? is it now occurring with other young people in our country? >> absolutely. not just mirk, but many counsel ryes around the world have been looking to find answers about how do people radicalize, how do young people radicalize, do they do it by themselves? is there such a thing as self radicalization isn't answer based on research over many years tdoes not happen alone. there is no self, pure radicalization. two things we need to look at. before radicalization, there is indoctrination, somewhere, someone is convincing that individual that the world is good and bad and that he is a soldier to go go after the bad
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and everything else in his life will come into that situation. after that, once that person is indock trainated, radicalization depends on circumstances. was it a cleric, a member of family, was it a teacher or if that person has been in civil wars or ethnic wars, was the general ambience responsible? it's a very complex process? >> eric: his uncle said he was radicalized here. does that mean training here or being on the internet or someone in russia when he went there last year for six months and came back, posting jihad videos on the internet. >> now, because of internet, there is a cosmos, a space where those things could happen. mental radicalization could happen in any geographicical space. it could be in the united states. that person could have traveled
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in cyberspace, what is important is who through that process is convincing the person he is doing the right thing. >> eric: what do the investigators do? do they go through the computer traffic? >> they have to be online. that's what the analysts have been doing. but at one point, the policy level needs to clarify. someone is validating to that person, what you will be doing is good. but some voice should come in and say, that is not good. those public voices could be in the community, the government or the international community. >> eric: look, i talked to ed davis, the boston police commission or friday, i asked him, did any member of their family, the brother's family come forward? they put the videos up at 5:00 at night. the sister, other members of the family, did they pick up the phone and call and rat them out? well, the police commissioner of boston said, no. if apparently, a family member
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doesn't come forward, how do we as americans deal with strangers or neighbors or any suspicions like this? >> the reason for why family members or friends do not detect that, it's because of the government and both the administration and congress is not telling the public what you have to tell the public -- what have you to tell the police about, what have you to tell authorities about. if that guy is talking about an ideology of jihaddism and that's a fact within the family. they don't hear it on radio, tv, school that, that would lead to radicalization, they have no reason to come to the government. ure have to have the first educator is the government. >> eric: the uncle said he was estranged from tamerian tsarnaev, not to blame the uncle. but your advice then for anybody who sees people or suspects anybody with radicalization is to do what? >> first of all, to do counseling with that person. if it does not work, to seek support from the community f. it doesn't work and that person
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continues in that direction, then to seek the help of authorities. authorities would have to be very careful in dealing with this issue. maybe using nongovernment organizations and maybe using psychologists and human right it is groups. there are a variety of ways to do it if we know. >> eric: tamerian tsarnaev's father says the fbi did talk to him in 2011. we'll get to the bottom of that more. walid fares, thank you for your analysis. >> jamie: thank you, eric great reporting on the scene this week. there were questions about whether or not the suspects should have been in the country and it's impacted the immigration reform debate. even as the senate continues on a hearing that critics say would make the u.s. more vulnerable. >> reporter: the boston bombing did cause some to question the new immigration bill. but many defend it as a way to make america even more secure.
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chuck grassley of iowa says of friday's hearing on capitol hill that, we need to be sure that people who intend to cause harm to americans are not allowed to enter the country. today on the sunday talk shows, little criticism, but there was an openness to making immigration reform as effective as possible. >> there are some -- some on the hard right, some otherwise who, oppose our immigration bill from the get go. they are using this as an excuse. we are not going to let them do that. if they have a suggestion to change it based on what happened in boston, we will be open to. it but we are not going to let them use what happened in boston as an excuse because, our law toughens things up. >> reporter: the immigration reform bill, written by a bipartisan group of senators would have multiple background checks and fix the visa system, so anyone overstaying a visa would be detected. right now, there are no checks
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on airport departures. as for those who come without visas to this country, lindsay graham says this. >> now is the time to bring all the 11 million out of the shadows and find out who they are. most of them are here to work. but we may find terrorists in our midst, when it comes to the entry/exit visa system. the 19 hijackers were all students who overstayed their visas and the system didn't capture that. >> reporter: the sant holds the second of two hearings tomorrow. >> jamie: very important issue. thanks. >> eric: we do have something to tell you about that is a relief. authorities in texas say there is no sign of criminal activity in the deadly blast at a texas fertilizer plant, according to the state. fire investigators there -- 14 people were killed in the town of west after the fire sparked an explosion. investigators will remove chemical tanks as a precaution. the blast happened to destroy
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homes, a school and a nearby nursing home. residents were evacuated and are just coming back this weekend. >> right here. you can see where it blew in the door right here. inside, it was more the roof and the insulation fell in and the nail, some of the nail its drove back through. i was glad my house wasn't destroyed. i feel sorry for the people who lost everything. my heart goes out to the people who lost everything. >> eric: volunteers have been on hand to help out. they are offering food and packing up items for folk who is survived. >> jamie: shots ring out in a crowded festival. the nerves certainly frayed. especially after the past week. can you imagine? authorities are looking for two suspects who sparked panic at denver's marijuana rally. >> eric: are you in the market for a new car? are you going to finance it? take out a car loan?
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sometimes, that can stretch for 8ars? the car will be in a box by that time. is it a good idea? are you being taken for a ride? jamie will explain.
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>> there was a marijuana celebration that ended in gunshots. police in denver on the look rout for two men who opened fire in a crowded festival that. sparked panic and a run for safety. in the wake of what happened in boston, you can imagine what the panicked people thought. in all, three people were hurt in this shooting, during denver's 420 pot rally. others were hurt from being trampled. it is the first marijuana celebration since colorado legalized marijuana. all festivals or related events after that happened were cancelled for the rest of the weekend. >> jamie: a pot festival? okay. still thinking about -- interesting. new car prices are on the rise.
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the economy, the way it's going, they are charging more. and auto lenders are jumping on the band wagon, stretching the terms of their loans to try to get nuand keep your payments low. but the short-term savings could cost you dearly in the long haul. so in today's take-charge consumer protection segment, i wanted to tell you how you can drive off with the best deal. joining me is chap wood investments representative. i am seeing the longer-term loans, as much as 96 months. are they a good deal? >> don't even psion about it. any time, you know, you are looking at leasing. if you are willing to pay for something over 8, 9 years, buy the car. if it appreciates, buy it. if it depreciates, lease it. cars depreciate in value. really look at leasing and even try to lease a pre-owned car if you can.
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that's the best value, jamie. >> jamie: why are they doing this? the car lenders? to get people to buy cars they can't afford? >> it is not just that. car dealers make their monofinancing. they are trying to get you to finance a car, and the longer you do it, the more money thea make. people make less money and they want to get the new car. they are saying, this is a great way to be comfortable with a monthly payment because we can make them smaller for you and people are attracted to it -- >> jamie: but in the end, it costs you more because even if you are paying interest that's low, you are paying it for a long period of time and the balance of the loan goes down very slowly. you walk into the dealership, maybe even the salesperson makes a few buck fist they give you auloan -- who knows? what do you say? what do do you in how do you decide how much car you can afford in. >> well, it goes back to monthly payments. you have to have a good discussion with yourself before you go in and get enticed by the
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extras, because they're salespeople. the cars are very attractive. there are great cars out there. have an understanding of what you can afford before you walk in the door, don't deviate from that. let me tell you, there are great automobiles and we want the next best thing. at the same time, you want to be able to pay for your groceries and pay your rent and apartment and take care of your bills. car payments are a loser. keep it as low as you can. >> jamie: how about this, ed? when i used to cell -- sell mortgages, i would tell people, take the 30 year, instead of the 15-year, and at any point, you could prepare the balance? could you pay it off sooner? >> not very often because they take the loans and they securitize those and sell them. they are etched in stone. they're big legal documents am most of the time, that's not going to happen. they do. they try to entice you to get that better car and they want you to have longer leases
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because the sales person makes more money by doing that. don't think for a moment, they are being nice and caring about you because they want you to have a lower monthly payment, the longer lease is a bad game. i flatout say stay away from it. >> jamie: quick question, short answer if you don't mind. >> sure. >> jamie: are they assumable? you get a bayer and they can take the loan with it? >> almost in every case, no. >> jamie: okay. always so helpful. this is the first time visaid this in the take-charge segments, read the fine print. always. thank you very much. you can get more take charge segpledgets easy on the main page. at the bottom, you click on america's news headquarters, the only program that has take charge segms for you? >> jamie, as the nation begins the healing process from the boston terrorist attack, there is a call for a federal investigation of what the feds did or did not do with tamerian
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tsarnaev. what are the questions, they want answers. we will hear from the chairman of the househomeland security committee. he is demanding information. we'll tell you about it when we come back. what do you think? thats's great. it won't take long, will it? nah. ok! this won't take long, will it? no, not at all.
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>> eric: we have a fox news alert. protecting americans today is a lot different than just a week ago. the boston attacks have renewed concerns over street bombings, bombings in the streets have not largely been seen in our cities since the 1960s and 70s, is it a question of when another one could happen? we are sorry we just showed you fenway park, that has nothing to do with our segment, other than they had that wonderful and emotional ceremony, celebrating the first responders and the spirit of one boston yesterday. what do we do? republican texas congressman is
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the chairman of the house homeland security committee. congressman, thank you for joining us. the basic question all americans want to know is, how do we protect ourselves? >> i think most americans are thinking, can this happen again? how can we prevent this from happening? as chairman of homeland security, vian obligation to the american people to examine this case. and find out, you know, what went wrong, how did this happen? and how can we prevent it? i do want to say, give my -- sincere praise to the fbi, joint chairs and task force, boston police, remarkable investigative work, bringing these guys to justice in less then a week. really, a remarkable case. i think it's a huge victory for all americans today. but having -- to answer your question, it's very difficult. al qaeda is evolving into recruiting u.s. residents and u.s. citizens that they can
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strain and then send back into our society. they would prefer to have assimilated already. the days of 9/11, of sending an army of hijackers in is more difficult to pull that off now. so they pray prey on u.s. residents and citizens, like in this case, to pull off these terrorist operations? >> you think this happened in a broader chechnyan plot, potentially? >> i think it's very important to put this in the context of where they came from. you can't understand the case until you understand where they came from, chechnya. the chechen rebels are some of the fiercest jihad warriors out there. they hava i relationship, an affiliation with al qaeda in pakistan, in afghanistan. i had a constituent who emailed me last night, she lost her son at the hand of nine chechen rebels. so they are in the fight. i think it's important to make that connection because we do note the son in january of 2012,
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travels to the chechen region to see his father. he is there for six months. when he gets back, one of the first things he does, he opens up a youtube web site and starts to proselytize radical islam and jihaddism. something snapped over there, in six months, in my theory is he got trained because nine months later, he pulls off the largest terrorist attack since 9/11. >> eric: his father said he visited his family. he may have. but you don't buy that, you think he met with potential terrorist there is? >> i think it's likely. remember, the chechen rebels are the ones that killed 300 children in a school... they're some of the fiercest out there. if you look at the trade craft, the tools of warfare that the two individuals used, they do trace back to the taliban and pakistan, the pressure-cooker device is a signature ied out of
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pakistan and afghanistan. the idea that they were wearing explosives, some sort of suicide vest, if you will, really escalate this is to a whole other level. my view is it's very eerie when the evidence is pult before me, realizing that, my god, i think this guy could have been radicalized and trained overseas to come back and kill americans. let me just say this as well, what was found in their apartment, the idea that they had seven more ieds out there indicates to me -- and they were staying in boston. we were worried about flight risk, indicates to me that they were very well may have been a success wave of attacks they were planning in boston. if it wasn't for the release of the video, we may not have stopped that. >> eric: it's really frightening. have you seen any evidence, mr. chairman that, they might not have been acting alone. >> that's the big question. i know the u.s. attorney and the
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intelligence community is looking for this. i would be casting a wider net to see, is there a sole beyond these two individuals? not just overseas, but quite frankly in the homeland that presents the biggest threat to american lives. peak.sure that's being done as i know, early confirmation reports that there are no other act othough. >> eric: can you repeat that? right now, the latest information you know as the chairman of the homeland security committee, there are no other potential coconspirators? >> that's the early reporting. i think it's premature to make that definitive conclusion, honestly, it is way they operate, the idea that someone was helping them plan, prepare and fund this operation is very likely, i would still say, it's a very, very much a concern. as you mentioned, the fbi did interview this individual, the older son in 2011, based upon a -- from what i understand, a
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russian intelligence tip that he was related to extremism. so he was on the radar. that's something my committee will be looking into. we sent a letter already to that fact. but we want to know what was -- came out of that interview, frankly, i would like to know what the russian intelligence had to say about this individual-- you have raised -- >> why didn't they put customs flags on him. >> eric: i am sorry to interrupt. you raised the issue with the letter to the white house, raising the issue that, what? five people who allegedly were involved in terrorist activities had been on the radar of the federal government. you raise that issue, with tamerian tsarnaev being investigated by the fbi. let me read you a quote from the father. he said they were in cambridge and fbi agents went to their house and questioned the holder son. his father said, quote, they said -- meaning the fbi, we know what sites you are on, we know
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who you are calling, we know everything about you, everything. well, that was -- in fairness to the fbi, in 2011 -- and they apparently had some flags in 2010. september 5 of this year, 7 months ago, he is applying for a citizenship and that raised some other flags... still being fair to the fbi, what went wrong? >> i will give them the benefit of the doubt, working with them. they interview a lot of people. but i think there are flags raised in this case. i don't know toa and extent they had him under observation, when have you a foreign government saying he's a problem and possible ties to extremism. you know -- tracking him with a customs flag is an assess thing to do. the idea he's traveling to one of the most dangerous parts of the world, being chechnya with the chechen rebels, who are so violent and extreme. i just don't know what is out
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there. i would hope that they were monitoring him. but when he came back, he clearly plotted this and he did it successfully without being stopped. >> eric: finally, in terms of there was that exemption that has gotten some flack. they did not give dzhokhar tsarnaev his miranda rights with the exemption, under the lay, saying there is an immediate threat to police officers or the public, you don't have to get mirandized and they can interrogate them for 48 hours. can you explain the process? how do they get it? do they start it right away? who makes that decision? if it started 8:30 on friday night, 48 hours, we are coming up, and dzhokhar tsarnaev can't talk in the hospital, so whatever information they may have gotten from him from now, they have -- how does that work? what is it? >> the number-1 goal is to get inside his head and get whatever intelligence he has about any other operatives, particularly in the united states, to protect the homeland and protect
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americans inside the united states. that's the number-1 goal. there is an emergency exception, under the law, 48 hours before they're mirandized, where they can get this information. i think that's the goal. you are hearing a lot of other elected officials talking about enemy combatant status and the teams that can come in and get the information, independent of that. i would like to get the intelligence first on him to protect american lives. that's the number-1 goal. he is a u.s. citizen. so i think it's important to note, under the constitution, afforded all rights under the constitution, he is to be tried in a federal civilian court. i know boston wants to move forward. they want swift justice. i know the u.s. attorney -- i hope -- will seek the death public in it case. >> eric: charges are obviously coming at this point. there are a lot of questions over this, about different actions. mike mccaul, thank you for filling us in on how to keep this country safe. thank you. we'll be right back.
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>> eric: to politics now. it seems that some disgraced politicians can't get enough. liz trotta has a commentary. >> good morning. ever notice how many famous people, especially politicians get caught up in scandals? stealing taxpayers' money accounts for some malfeasance, and the names seem to evaporate with time. sex scandals are very different, more widespread and interesting. fending on the weeferdness of the -- weirdness of the offense, imprinted on the public mind. some cases are irredeemable, transgressors gone for good. others waited for redemption, all apologize, abjectly. among those unlikely to return to public life, i would nominate, former presidential
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contender john edwards, who fathered a love child wliel his wife was dying of cancer. arnold schwarzenegger, whose love child was the former house keeper. the married love guff, patronizing $1,000 an hour hookers. jim mcgreevey, appointing his gay lover to a public job. at the opposite end is golf champ tiger woods, another married traveler in the wild woman fast lane who, hit bottom. but his dazzling athletic talent made the difference, so he's back winning tournaments again. in this spring season of hope, the comeback spotlight has landed on three hopeful men, all of whom had trouble with extra curricular women. these are the masters of the universe, whose hunger for attention is so enormous that we peons must accept their urchghtuous apologies and reward
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them with the intrinsically american second chance. anthony weiner is such a man, rawly ambitious, obnoxious with a lean and hungry look of a roman assassin. the new york times sanctioned his comeback effort with an approving profile, featuring his wife, a close assistant to hillary clinton. less than two years ago, mr. weiner, a seven-term congressman from new york, was caught sending lewd messages to young women, along with pictures of his excited self in underwear. logically, hillary, the high priestess of women betrayed, assumed the role of mother protector to his pregnant wife and offered advice -- stick with him. after all, there are two political careers to consider here. he will probably run for mayor and instead of answering questions about his character or morals, he will continue to call himself a temporary jerk and push on.
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the case of mark sanford borders on farce. you remember, this republican governor of south carolina disappeared for five days, back in 200 19, telling the world he was hiking on the appalachian trail, actually using taxpayers money, in argentina, visiting his mistress to whom he is now engaged. after winning the g.o.p. nomination this month, his ex-wife sued him for trespassing in her house. now the national g.o.p. committee has cut him off and he is on his own for next month's special election. general david petraeus, the philandering hero of afghanistan and iraq is carefully emermging back into the public eye. first an apology -- which he read. a little speech here, an op-ed speech there and the architect of our failed military strategy might receive redemption. could he be considered for
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president? however tinny the words of apology may sound, these fallen idols can barely help themselves. they insist on recapturing the fame and media, once bathing nem fay golden globe. we must let them into our lives again. it is as though they are saying, when we blame ourselves, we feel no one else has a right to blame us. >> eric: thank you. comprehending up -- crim dismal or enemy combatant isn't debate over trying the surviving bomb boston bombing suspect is underway. the legal experts will smain. [ male announcer ] why is kellogg's crunchy nut so delicious? because every flake is double-toasted... splashed with sweet honey... and covered in rich double-roasted peanuts. mmm. [ hero ] yummy. [ male announcer ] kellogg's crunchy nut. it's super delicious!
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>> jamie: several powerful senators are calling for the boston bombing suspect to be treated as an enemy of america. he hasn't been read his miranda rights, and we don't know if he will face a civilian trial or a military trial. he is, i should note, an american citizen. with more, robert shock is a criminal defense attorney and quiche -- heaven is a federal prosecutor. igate to see both of you. bob, a lot of people are calling for the death penalty. we are far away from that decision. but in federal court, does it
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matter where the case takes place -- in massachusetts or elsewhere? >> no, absolutely not. if the charges are lodged of using a weapons of mass destruction to murder american citizens, they can seek the death punishment. it's up to the department of justice. but boston or any other venue would be able to do that. >> jamie: you can guess how the jury pool will feel about this? >> right. that's all over the country, not just boston. this is a very serious case, especially whenw what our country has been through in the. >> jamie: you both agree it should be in a civilian court t. seems to be that's the direction it's going, not a military tribunal. he may not be in a condition to be asked any questions. but is anything off limits? >> at this point, they for using the public safety exception. but it's very murky, with regard to the case law. the longest time that a case has ruled in this is 50 minutes from the time of the arrest, for purposes of questioning someone. he can't speak. they are going to say he can't
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speak yet, which is why we haven't started the 48-hour period. the goal is to get as much information as possible, i don't think they need what he says for his trial. they need it for intelligence -- >> jamie: evidence. >> one of the limits of the public safety exception is that they can't ask questions that are not related to the imminent danger. >> jamie: they have limited themselves with this route. can they still mirandize him? >> they can. >> jamie: then what? >> then, obviously, he has right to invoke if he wants an attorney or if he wants to remain silent that. hasn't happened yet. >> jamie: i would never second-guess law enforcement. we don't know if he was in a condition to ask any question, bob, would there have been a down side to mirandize him at that point? >> no. what's the worse he says, i don't want to answer any questions and the best he says is, i will tell you everything. we don't know whether he was
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following his brother and he didn't want to do this. he may want to tell his side. if he does, that will benefit 1; the strength of their case, and the intelligence gathering that everyone wants to get. >> jamie: i have handled civil trials, but not certainly in a military tribunal. what's different? can you explain to folks out there how that may help if they do decide to go that route? >> well, the difference is that they may not have the same... protection as they would in a civil court or, a non-military court, where they may not have the appointment of an attorney that tax dollars pay for. so it would be more difficult process for the defendant. but in situations where it is extreme and there is terrorism, that's the reason why they have that. >> jamie: we have a prosecutor's view, a criminal defense. both esteemed attorneys. thank you for coming in. we will probably learn more about the charges this week. an amazing moment of pride and
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