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dana perino will join us. she's interviewing her old boss, president bush. that will be great. that's it from me from washington, d.c. >> steve: get on the train. come on home. >> gretchen: see you tomorrow. >> brian: first the radio bill: good morning, everybody, fox news alert on a team of u.s. investigators said to be in southern russia interviewing the parents of the boston bombing sus ex-as as better picture emerges on the brother believed be to the mastermind behind the attacks. good morning to you wherever you are, i'm bill hemmer. good to have you along with us here in "america's newsroom". martha: good morning, bill. good morning everybody. i'm martha maccallum. we're also getting some brand new details this morning on who may have dropped the ball here. senators were briefed by intelligence officials but that only led to even more questions about the suspects russia trips to an area that is known for islamic fanaticism. so why were we not following
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his travels? it appears that homeland security knew he left the country but they didn't know that he came back in. here is homeland security chief janet napolitano on capitol hill. watch. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and, if you weren't, the reason? >> the travel in 2012 that you're referring to? yes, the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned all investigations had been, the matter had been closed. bill: so let's pick it up today with greg palkot working on the story in london. greg, u.s. officials are there. what do you think they would be asking or what part of the investigation unfolds now? >> reporter: bill, we have been talking to the u.s. embassy in moscow, also to the fbi they are pretty tight-lipped about this visit but various reports
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are saying that a team of fbi agents are in dagestan right now, they are speaking to the parents of the suspected boston bombers, asking no doubt specifically about a six-month visit. the late tamerlan tsarnaev paid to dagestan in 2012. the parents are reportedly telling authorities that no contact was made between him and radical islamist there is. a group is claiming the same thing. there are a lot of questions about that trip. different reasons for him going. conflicting timelines where he was, who he was with. a lot of focus on one mosque in dagestan tamerlan said to have attended during the trip and a prior one. it is a salafist mosque, a extreme mosque one which radicals have attended. there is one report russian officials think he did make contact several times with an extremist, bill. bill: greg, we don't know when this man turned, whether it was in the u.s. in boston or whether it was
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overseas. what is the working theory on behalf of authorities when tamerlan, the older brother, could have been radicalized? >> reporter: very good question. it is always a possibility that the turning happened exactly there in that country but in fact he was, we believe, closely watched. our own amy kellogg here speaking to a newspaper editor in dagestan saying if tamerlan was in fact being watched during this time there is no way he could go off to the mountains to train with radicals there. however, while he was there in the six-month time he was in dagestan there were various clashes between militants and the authorities as they fight for an independent dagestan away from russia. so at the very least he was exposed. while there is no direct evidence of contact, the circumstantial evidence is very clear, bill. prior to this trip to dagestan he was a, going towards an conservative view of islam. he went there. when he came back he was posting islamist videos on
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the youtube. he was speaking out at his moderate boston mosque. a few months later, buying fireworks, fireworks maybe had a part to do with that boston bombing. bill: clearly this is moving quickly too. greg palkot, stay on it, live from london on our coverage there today. martha: we have some brand new information about exactly what we've been talking about because moments ago homeland security secretary janet napolitano has now weighed in on the suspect's trip to russia and why federal agencies were not keeping an eye on the older brother when he came back into the country from his six-month trip. here is what she just said moments ago. >> they are vetted from the time they apply to the time between when they're told they're going to be a citizen and they actually take the oath at a ceremony. so we're continually revetting, going back, check, checking, checking, checking. in this instance in boston the systems contained no derogatory information as to
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either brother. martha: boy that raises a lot of questions, doesn't it? how do there be no derogatory information as to either brother when one of them is somebody who russia had given us a head's up and said we should keep an eye on? we'll talk to senator lindsey graham about this. he is coming up later this hour. bill: meanwhile, martha, a lawyer for tamerlan's widow, american widow is assisting and cooperating in the investigation. her family, the russell family in massachusetts, struggling to come to terms with his alleged involvement. this statement released through her attorney just late yesterday. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. as a mother, a sister, a daughter, a wife, katie deeply mourns the pain and loss to innocent victims,
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students, law enforcement officers, families, and our community. in the aftermath of this tram did i she, her daughter, and her family are trying to come to terms with this event. bill: so now we're piecing this together the following way. we hear that russell last saw her husband on thursday, only hours before he died in a gunbattle with police in cambridge, massachusetts. she was handing off their 2-year-old daughter to stay with him while she went to work. again, that was thursday of last week. martha: investigators are looking into possible ties between tamerlan tsarnaev and the man who is known as russia's usama bin laden. his name is dokar umarov. he is a leader of a islamist separatist group in russia blamed for dozens of murders including the 2010 moscow subway bombings. in 2011, the state department offer ad $5
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million reward for information on this man and his whereabouts. no word whether the group or uma love are involved or connected in any way to the attack but clearly being investigated. bill: victims are being remembered as well. the first responder who rushed toward the danger of boston and saved the life of one of the youngest victims and that man is sharing his story. amateur video shows off-duty firefighter, matt patterson, went straight to 7-year-old jane richard as she lay on the ground, after use losing a leg. patterson used a stranger's belt as a tourniquet giving her enough time to get her to an ambulance. >> something focused my energy right there. as soon as i came out i was just like right in front of me. straight line right to her. she need ad tourniquet and need ad surgery. that is obvious what i saw.
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i was looking to down the street if i could bring the child to the ambulance and advanced care. you have to stop the bleeding. if you don't stop the pleading it's over. i'm glad she is okay. i'm glad she is ever aring mproving.s can be and her that is good enough for me, well-done, well-done. the girl's brother, 8-year-old martin richard did not survive and their mother denise is seriously injured. she is being treated in the hospital. now you get the funerals and ceremonies and really tugs at your heart what the family is going through. martha: what the family has been through. they just got together to watch the boston marathon that day and none of this should have happened to them in that environment but we wish the little girl well and her mom well as they try to recover from the loss of their little brother. bill: now to another story that stunned a lot of us late yesterday, charges have been dropped against a man
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accused of sending ricin-laced letters to the president and others. after being released from custody, the man who is an elvis impersonator says he respects the president and loves his country. here is more from him and his attorney. >> i'm holding today the order of dismissal that dismissed the charges lodged against paul kevin curtis. >> i thought they said rice. i said i don't even eat rice. at seven days, staring at four gray walls like green, green grass of home tune, not really knowing what's happening. bill: no evidence of ricin was found in searches of his home and another man's home was searched yesterday as well. he, the other man, also denies sending letters. martha: so stocks are rebounding after a fake tweet seriously spooked wall street yesterday. the associated press's twitter account was hacked into. can you believe that? and a false tweet went out that said, quote, breaking, like breaking news, two
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explosions in the white house? and that the president was injured? i mean, this was a faulty tweet but on that news, for a moment, in the market yesterday, the dow tumbled about 145 points. lost $136 billion like that. stuart varney joins us now. he is anchor of "varney & company" on the fox business network. so many levels on this one, stuart. how a huge news service like the ap, how their twitter account could be hacked into with a message like that is the first question. and the second, how about that reaction in the market? >> okay. here's what happened. stock trading computers are programmed to scan the news. news bulletins from ap for example. they're looking for key words like explosion, white house, president, obama. they read those words in that fake ap tweet and immediately triggered massive selling stock. no human beings involved whatsoever. it was computer-generated
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because they have this algorithm to scan a news bulletin. down went the dow, off 147 points in a three-minute period. about 150, maybe $200 billion worth wiped out. okay, it was all restored but there is a couple of conclusions to draw from this. number one, we have not really mastered the art of computerized stock trading. our financial system is still amenable to attack, manipulation and certainly technical breakdown. and number two, it doesn't do much to restore small investors faith in wall street and restore it in stock trading. at 1929 it took a generation to get confidence back. now we're reacting to a flash hacking crash right after the 2008 financial panic. this is not good news for small investors. martha: you go from like, folks talking around the buttonwood tree in terms of passing news on wall street, right? even back to the dark ages when i worked on the floor of the new york stock exchange rumors would get around, right? things would start happening
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and you see the reaction in the market. boy, this is something we really need to give some thought to, stuarts as you say, three words put together, explosions, white house, obama, and computer programs acting on their own based on those three words. stunning. >> the damage from this computerized trading were no humans involved can be much more significant than any damage in the old days when you had face-to-face trading and rumor got around. martha: yeah. >> you could handle that pretty quickly. the damage was limited. today it is virtually unlimited as we've seen in the past. martha: what is the impact on investors on this? >> i think they have lost confidence. i can't handled this. i don't like this. i don't like what i see. i don't trust wall street to get it right and act in my interest. i think it's a negative. martha: we'll see how it goes today. stuart, thank you. we'll see you later. bill: you wonder as a viewer as member of the public, what do you believe? if this tweet goes out and everybody is relying on
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twitter over the past several months for news and information. martha: yeah. bill: what do you think when you see that? i mean i had a trader call me yesterday, is this true? i stayed what are you talking about? bomb at the white house? right after that it was pulled back. martha: breaking news next to it. that's a huge head's up. we got to figure a way to make sure that doesn't happen again. bill: 13 minutes after the hour. we're just getting rolling. new concerns about a new bird flu. concerns it could be passed human-to-human. we'll update you in a moment. martha: the budget cuts forcing long delays at the airport which you know if you've been at one in the last few days. is it necessary or the pain coming on purpose? a new report on that. bill: a new report says the white house and the state department whitewash ad report on benghazi. why republicans said words like al qaeda were taken out of a report of the action that killed four americans. >> i don't think we've got to the bottom what the state
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to enjoy all of these years. ♪ >> inside the main residence the attackers come in here and they ransack the place and then they go for the locked gate. they look inside. it's dark. they can't see anything. and then they tried the lock. they can't open it up. inside, agent uben has got a gun trained on them, ready to shoot if need be. bill: that was our own greg palkot on the scene in the days after the u.s. consulate was destroyed in benghazi. now house republicans in a scathing report accuse the white house of whitewashing the talking points about the attack on 9/11. republican congressman plaque thornberry, house armed services committee member and house intelligence committee member, those committees conducted a thorough review two of the five reviews
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conducted. good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: did the administration lie about the events in benghazi? >> there was no doubt there was political spin after the event to try to whitewash i would say, references to terrorism and other politically inconvenient sort of facts related to this. so, so, no doubt, the name of the game, after the event was political spin. the name of the game before the event was the state department did not put enough attention to security. and i would say what people need to know is, house republicans are not going to let this drop. you know we have, boston and in a variety of other issues in the news but as this interim report indicates we're going to stick with this issue. bill: sir, to be clear, is political spin the same thing as lying or misleading? how do you characterize it? >> oh i think it is definitely misleading. you know, i don't know how one would exactly define lie in a political context.
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as we all learn it is harder and harder to know what's true and what's not but i think there was a deliberate attempt to at least skew the facts and make it more politically the way they wanted it to be and we have specific e-mails, specific changes that were made in the talking points and other communications that specific, evidence. i think it is important for people to look at these changes and they can reach that ultimate conclusion themselves. bill: secretary state hillary clinton testimony january, three months ago, january 2013, she said this. >> the specific security requests pertaining to benghazi, you know, were handled by the security professionals in the department. i didn't see those requests. they didn't come to me. i didn't approve them. i didn't deny them. bill: i did not see those requests, is that true? >> i don't know what her eyes saw.
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what i do know that her signature is on some of the denials of those requests. and what we know for certain is that some of these requests did not end with the security folks in the state department. they went higher, up into the management levels. and so there are still unanswered questions as exactly what she saw with her eyes and other questions and that is why this is an interim report. this is not the final answer. there is more work to be done. >>. bill: they did not come to me, i did not approve them, i did not deny them, is that true? >> her name is on letters denying them. we know that it is not true they ended with security professionals. so there is more work. bill: so she is lying? >> i don't know. clearly the facts that are in this report indicate that the statements you just played were not entirely true. now are there other explanations or something? i don't know. i think that the burden will
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be on her and the state department to explain the specific e-mails that are referenced and quoted in this report. bill: mac thorn per i are, thank you. there is a lot more to get through. we're trying to nail this down a lot more to come. thank you for your time today. 21 past. breaking news with martha. martha: we're watching breaking news coming out of the fort lauderdale, florida. this is off of hendrix i'll near fort lauderdale. a boat caught fire and spread to another vessel. there is one person injured in this ongoing situation. their condition is not known. we'll get you more information. that is the scene, folks standing around in the neighborhood trying to figure out what happened. whether or not they can put this out. plus trying to recover from the heartbreak in the small town of west, texas. why people are still waiting to hear when they can get in to find out what they can salvage there. >> our house, all the windows everything, it
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bill: some new problems for lance armstrong. we're learning that the justice department is filing a preach of contract lawsuit for accepting sponsorship money while cheating to win the tour de france. the postal service paying $40 million as a sponsor and the government suing for triple that amount. armstrong previously argued that the partnership earned back more money for the postal service than it actually paid him and his team. martha: house panel is expected to take up legislation on the controversial keystone pipeline and that's expected to happen within the hour this morning. the pipeline would bring oil
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from canada's oil sand to gulf coast refineries if it can get through congress. president obama would have to decide whether or not he supports it. he has said, after the election he might change his mind or might look at all of this again. doug mckelway is live at the white house. any action so far by the white house or the state department on this, doug? >> reporter: nothing, martha. still under consideration by the state department. while the obama administration weighs whether or not to proceed to approve this pipeline house natural resources committee is taking action on its own. it is fredding with the markup of a bill call the northern route approval act. the committee knows even if the president agrees to the pipeline there is a strong likelihood environmentalists will throw up all kind of legal challenges to delay it. so this bill imposes a 60-day deadline for filing legal challenges. the administration, as we all know is under tremendous competing pressures within its own camp to do something with the pipeline. environmentalists obviously are adamantly opposed to it
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but the president's union base is adamantly pushing for approval. in fact union representatives from the building and construction trades will be rallying at 10:00 to support the keystone xl pipeline. adding to all of this pressure, when asked in a new poll by the woodrow wilson center, what is more important to you, reducing greenhouse gases or having north america free from importing oil outside of north america? 6% of americans said they want to be free from imported oil. only 30% think reducing greenhouse gases is more important. public sentiment appears to be shifting very strongly in favor of the keystone xl pipeline. martha: when that happens, things seem to follow as we've seen. we know, doug, that the epa is getting involved in the decision at the state department on this, right? >> reporter: they have just this week written a letter to the state department that says that the state department's environmental impact statement is quote, providing insufficient
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information. the letter states that greenhouse gas emissions from oil sands are actually much, much higher than greenhouse gas emissions from regular crude oil that would be processed in this country. to quote, the additional co2 from oil sands crude transported by the pipeline could be as much as 935 million metric tons. that epa statistic sent in a letter just to state this week could provide a lot of fuel to the fire of environmentalists who want to press ahead with legal challenges assuming this pipeline is ultimately approved by the obama administration. martha: doug, thank you. the good news it is a beautiful day in washington, d.c. look at that. >> reporter: indeed it is. spectacular. martha: thanks, doug. bill: there are new concerns about bird flu. why the world health organization is warning that a deadly new strain could be more dangerous than the last outbreak. we'll fill you in on that. martha: and those government budget cuts, you're feeling them if you're trying to travel anywhere this week but are the cuts actually
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leader harry reid on the floor on that topic. >> we've seen the dire effect of these arbitrary budget cuts and we have an obligation to stop them. i will soon ask unanimous consent to take up and pass legislation that would block sequestration until the end of this fiscal year, until the first day of october. bill: republicans call this pure politics saying the faa could easily reshuffle fund needed to keep air traffic controllers on the job. what does tucker carlson editor of the daily caller, co-host of "fox and friends" weekend think about that? and what does alan colmes, host of the "alan colmes radio show" and fox news contributor think as well? welcome to you and nice to see you both. susan collins republican out of state of maine calls this a manufactured crisis. is it? >> of course it is. this is a political ploy by administration to punish the public until republicans agree to raise taxes once again on the top 1%. i actually think this is too
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far. at the very moment that people are sitting on the tarmac on airplanes waiting for hours to take off because of budge cuts at faa this administration is actively sew listing new recipients for food stamps. in other words there is no budget crisis in the federal government. they're spend as if we are as rich as everywhere. average people, middle class at airports are being punished. i think they are pushing the envelope on this and rebellion of public opinion against this and i think they have gone too far. bill: what do you think, alan. >> the administration is pushing food stamp on poor people. >> literally. >> so they get food stamps. >> read the front page of "the washington post". >> secondly supposed to believe that the faa is in cahoots with the administration to purposely hurt, make republicans look bad here because the faa doesn't make these decisions without the white house telling them what to do? we're supposed to believe all that, really? >> what i'm saying it is very simple. the white house has never been hesitant to use
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executive orders to effect any change it aproves us, could say this is totally unacceptable. we'll find a way to make certain ordinary air travelers, you need air travel to function as a country ill will not wait on the tarmac for two hours exyou think white house has the authority and senate democrats blocked that. >> we have $85 billion in cuts this year as of right now you think you can do it without any pain anywhere nobody gets hurt? if you have a better way --. bill: apparently 33 senators some whom are democrats arguing that you can. you need to reshuffle the money a little bit. >> let them do it. bill: tucker, you argue "the washington post" a moment ago. this from "the wall street journal" suggests that spending for 2013 faa includes $500,000 on consultants. it includes $325,000 on, sorry, that is million, excuse me. 500 million on consultants. 325 million on supplies an travel. i missed three zeros in all
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this. and 474 million in grants to make communities more liveable and sustainable. there is your pile of loot. use that to pay for these guys. >> i live in washington. i'm sitting here right now. i can tell you there has never been a richer city in the history of the worlds. there are construction cranes on every block. why? federal spending is higher than it ever been. you can't look me in the face and say we need to keep people sitting on the tarmac two hours because can he can't afford enough air traffic controllers? that is ridiculous. come on, alan. >> actually republicans are playing politics here trying to pin sequester on white house whether they were ones that supported it. boehner did a power point presentation and sold it to his caucus. they don't want to take any responsibility for it. you can't tell me you care about deficit reduction when they won't do anything to bring new revenue into the government. >> we had tax increases january 1st. bill: back to the point about money, jerry moran, republican from kansas, richard blumenthal, democrat
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out of connecticut, they argue you could take $50 million immediately in unused faa research and capital fund and prevent the air traffic controllers from closing. that is how you avert the thing immediately. >> easy to say that. i'm not counting the beans. i'm sure the faa is not making a gratuitous decision to hurt people sitting on tarmac. i assume they know what they're doing and not doing it with some kind of conspiracy with the white house to hurt travelers. >> part of the executive branch of government. the president, president obama runs the executive branch. >> he doesn't run the faa or every part of the government. >> they could do this in an afternoon, alan. >> go fix it. you know where the beans are being counted. ridiculous. bill: we'll see who cries uncle first in this. thank you, alan. thank you, tucker. see you both soon. >> thank you. martha: we've got some news, breaking right now. five people are dead and one person is injured. there is a shooting
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situation in manchester, illinois right now. we're told that multiple schools are on lockdown in this. we are also told that, there may be a suspect in custody. this is ktvi. that has not been confirmed yet. we can not confirm the suspect is in custody there were also reports one of those shot included a child who has been taken to the hospital in springfield, illinois. jacksonville school district 117 according to the superintendent there is in lockdown right now as this situation continues to unfold. we're going to get you the latest information on this. we'll get you that soon as we get back. there is a new warning from the world health organization today about a deadly new train of bird flu. it is already showing signs of possible, i repeat, possible, human-to-human transmission. that usually does not happen in these bird flu situations.
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there were samples sent to the u.s. that suggest it may be resistant to some anti-viral drugs. we've been watching this over the last month or so but it seems to be taking a new turn that is troublesome. and john roberts is on this live in atlanta. good morning, john. >> reporter: good morning to you, martha. yeah a team from the world health organization and head of cdc influenza division just wrapped up the a trip to china. they describe the situation there complex and severe that this virus seems to be particularly deadly. 108 people have gotten sick so far. 22 of them have died and they are very worried about some reports of suspected human-to-human transmission. dr. joe bricy a flu exert at centers for disease control who has been diligently watching for the very first signs this virus could be easily transmitted between people. >> there are three clusters of infections which are two or three infected members of the same household, the same family members. in these cases sometimes
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difficult to know whether one human in the family spread it to another human or acquired it from an infected bird they were both exposed to. >> reporter: so far, and this is a very, very important point, there is no evidence of what is scald sustained human-to-human transition which would be a worst-case scenario. look at this. 1918 spanish flu pandemic the benchmark all other flus are measured, 50 million people died. the death rate was one in 50. 1 in 50 who got it died. h7n9, one in five people have died. if this got out those are scary numbers. martha: those are potentially scary numbers john. what about vaccines or drugs to treat this? >> reporter: the centers for disease control as you can imagine is racing for a vaccine. the question is how it will be effective in people. that is months ago. centers for disease control
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did get another sample of the virus from china. ran it through the advanced molecular system found certain mutations in the virus had they gone all the way could have rendered our front line anti-wire ral rals tamiflu. >> this had been able to overcome the final step it could have become resistant to those drugs. it hadn't gotten there yet, but we can tell by looking at it is on its way there. >> reporter: that would be problematic. >> it would be problematic. >> reporter: centers for disease control completed work on important diagnostic kits because the first case of h7n9 was detected outside of china a man in taiwan who spent two weeks traveling in china. martha? martha: john, thank you. bill: they have lost so much. some of the first victims of the texas plant explosion are being laid to rest today. we're now getting updates
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when some of the families can expect to go back into their homes as they regather their lives again. martha: plus america's intelligence gathering was supposed to change and connect the dots, remember that, after september 11th. so why did homeland security know some things that the fbi did not? big question. lindsey graham is joining us next on that i don't make any decisions about who to hire
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martha: a top republican senator is now questioning conflicting information from
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the fbi and homeland security about the boston terror attack suspects. here is senator lindsey graham asking secretary janet napolitano to clarify which agencies were aware of tamerlan tsarnaev six-month trip to russia. watch this. >> you said, i think to senator grassley that the older brother, the suspect who was killed, when he left to go back to russia in 2012, the system picked up his departure but did not pick up him coming back, is that correct? >> going on, that's my understanding. i can give you the detail in a classified setting but i think the salient fact there, senator, is that the fbi texted alert on him at that point was more than a year old and had expired. >> the point i am trying to make, after talking to fbi they told me they had no knowledge of him leaving or
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coming back. the name was misspelled. i would like to talk to you more about this case. martha: wow! senator lindsey graham is on the senate judiciary committee and we're very glad to have you with us this morning, senator. >> thank you. martha: that's disturbing. >> yeah. three days ago the fbi called me at home because last sunday i suggested maybe we droed the ball on this guy. we got notice from a foreign government, the russians, that this guy has become radicalized. may be joining unspecified groups to commit terrorist acts within our country. the fbi interviewed him in 2011. they interviewed his family. they apparently did a pretty good job. they contacted the russians in october 2011, saying do you have anymore? they say the russians never responded. i asked him how could he go to russia and you not know it? they tell me the name was misspelled. it didn't go into the system. now secretary napolitano says wait a minute, we knew about it. how could homeland security know about him leaving the
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country and the fbi not, 11 years after 9/11. where are we going here? martha: we now have a director of national intelligence, james clapper. the whole reason for the structure we have is to connect the dots. >> yeah. martha: connect the dots was one of the main phrases we heard so much after september 11th. you have just very clearly pointed out some dots that were not connected. it is not just about pointing fingers. it is about figuring out what is going on with our system so it doesn't happen again, right? >> i'm totally respectful of fbi. they're brave and all our law enforcement people deserve our respect but we have to understand what works and what doesn't. look at benghazi. look at the story we told the american people after the attack that absolutely had no bearing on the facts. here is another question. when the bomb went off, didn't the fbi say to themselves do very any suspects in the boston area we previously interviewed that may fit this profile? martha: right. >> when we got a photo of the older brother how could
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our system not pick up the fact he already had been in the system? there is a lot to answer here. martha: senator graham, do we know that it didn't because that was one of my big questions this morning? >> i don't know. martha: perhaps it did. perhaps facial recognition, maybe at fbi the second they saw the photograph and before it was reclosed to us, maybe they were already on to him? do we know? >> why would you put his photo out and say do you know -- no, i don't buy that when they were asked by cbs and fox, the fbi after the attack have you had contact with either one of the brothers, they said no. martha: no. >> it was only after the mother's interview where she talked about the fbi following the older son did they tell us that they had him in the system. something's not right here. i don't want to be judgmental but i want to make sure we're safe. between benghazi and boston, we're going backward in national security. this administration is letting, letting its guard down and it is beginning to show. martha: is that what it is? >> yeah.
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martha: is it a different mood in this administration? i go back to the patriot laws and fisa searches and all of the things that should be able to kick in in a situation like this. if the russian government has alerted us to someone, shouldn't be we able to watch their cell phones, watch their computer activity, shouldn't that be going on? >> if you google terrorists you will find the older brother on the web, youtube video of him declaring war on us, saying we're a christian nation. we're infidels. how could the fbi after the interview in 2011 not pick up that traffic where this guy is visiting radical web sites? this administration has a hard time embracing we're at war with radical islam. he should be national security interrogated. he has got a lawyer. he deserves all the protections of a citizen in federal court. he can't be tried by military commission because citizens are excluded but he is prime candidate for enemy
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combatant status and contrary to what people say, american citizens have been held as enemy combatant for decades in this country when they side with the enemy. this idea of interviewing him through a lawyer makes no sense to me from a national security purpose. martha: senator, thanks for talking with us. i hope you will come back. >> i will the perfect temperatue and humidity or the parts that purify the air. together these parts can cut your heating and cooling bills in half. that's comforting. call now to get up to sixteen hundred dollars back or 12 months deferred interest on select lennox home comfort systems. offer ends june 14th. plus download our free lennox mobile app with an energy-savings calculator. lennox. innovation never felt so good.
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bill: you had well over00 people injured in boston. -- 200. some are heading to rehab centers for the next phase in their long recovery and dr. marc siegel is following that, fox news medical a-team, live at the hospital there. doctor, good morning. >> good morning, bill. with over 264 wounded and at 20 seven area hospitals they're past the initial surgeries and medicines now and they're moving on to rehabilitation.
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boston spaulding rebe a rehabilitation censor involved in these patients. they have a team approach. i spoke to the head of spaulding and spoke to a fiscal therapist there as a amputees learn how to walk again. >> the biggest challenge is their center of balance. when you lose a limb your center of balance changes in terms of how you stand up and how you are centered and be able to walk again. we do a lot of techniques. they're working on core strength, working on their balance. >> bill, shrapnel wound, shrapnel wound are very complicated and they take a long time to work. and with rehabilitation you have physical, you have emotional, you have a team approach. patients look into the future. they don't yet know how much better they are going to feel. >> it is hard at this stage and time for people with the survivors of the marathon bombings, it is premature for them to contemplate that
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they could have quality of life but they will. and, i worked with many people over the years and seen that actually, some people find that their quality of live in different ways is superior to what it was prior to the onset of the disability. >> bill, the most underreported story here is traumatic brain injury and post-traumatic stress disorder which after all affects almost half a million of our military. i spoke to dr. david king of massachusetts general hospital who actually says he is seeing a lot of tbi patients already. a lot of people do not know they have this problem, bill? bill: good to have you there. dr. marc siegel live in boston. >> thanks, bill. martha: how the suspects walked into a fireworks to meeting patient needs... ♪ wireless is limitless. ♪ from finding the best way...
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martha: we start with this fox news alert. new revelations that the boston bombing suspects may have experimented with fireworks as explosives in the weeks before the deadly attack which happened nine days ago. welcome to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom", everybody. i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. newspaper days and it hasn't stopped since, has it? we're getting a new report. the owner of a storm known as phantom fireworks company, says the older brother tamerlan went to a store in new hampshire bought two large reloadable mortar kits. they are illegal in the state of massachusetts. martha: what do we know about tamerlan's trip north, molly? >> reporter: we've been able
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to confirm quite a few details about this. tamerlan tsarnaev went north february 6th that this purchase was made at the phantom fireworks store in sea book, new hampshire. brought two kids, the lock and load kits. they contain pretty powerful mortars, containing four tubes, 24 shells. he purchased this essentially in buy-one-get-one-free deal. costs $200 in total. as part of that he became a loyalty card. got a loyalty card from the store. he used his massachusetts driver's license to, as an i.d. to buy all of these items. a store manager describes what he asked for. >> he asked her to point him, direct him to the most powerful and loudest fireworks that we had. >> reporter: it is also worth noting this isn't the first company's brush if you will with an accused terrorist. the times square bombing attempt, remember that, from 2010? the man accused in that was also seen on surveillance
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buying item from a phantom fireworks store but in pennsylvania. martha? martha: raises a lot of questions. what are company officials saying at phantom, molly? >> reporter: essentially they're weighing in that they don't believe the products that tsarnaev brought at the store in new hampshire could be powerful or ultimately responsible for the fuel in this bomb that went off at the boston marathon finish line. take a listen. >> i just don't think they would have been able to mine enough powder from these products to produce that. and the other part is, that we all saw the explosion and it was gray smoke. you saw no color. no fireworks effect. no whistle. no crackle. >> reporter: even as we're learning so much about these investigations there is also some really wonderful news coming out of boston. a lot of people are pulling together. businesses and people all across the city ande's a new t-shirt has come out from life is good, a boston-based company, a
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life-style company, a lot of these events including boston marathon will have people showing off t-shirts. this one is raising money for the one fund to go to victims to recover in the course. on the back it says nothing is stronger than love. on the front of course it says boston. if you want more information go to life is and already the one fund has raised over $20 million. 50,000 people have been donating to that fund. martha: wow. >> reporter: really, truly incredible. martha: that is a good-looking t-shirt. i will pick one of those up next time i go to cape cod. looks great. more power to them. thank you, molly. we'll see you later. bill: we are also learning more that the massachusetts taxpayers were giving money to at least one of the bombing suspects. "boston herald" reports that tamerlan was receiving welfare along with his wife and their 3-year-old daughter up until about a year ago. apparently he wasn't the only one. state fishes telling the
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herald, tsarnaev's parents received state benefits for the family when he and his younger brother were miners living in massachusetts. martha: there is more coming on that one, folks. the barriers are gone now. downtown boston is open for business more than one week after the attack. boylston street was reopened to traffic this morning. there does remain a heavy police presence there which is no surprise. the subway station and main branch of the boston public library will open as well. stores directly affected by explosions remain boarded up. they will take a while to get back into action. those are things that need to happen for everybody to get back to life as they knew it. bill: i think a lot of people will come by to have a look for themselves. boylston street is sop popular for bostonians. newberry street off to the north. martha: a great area. >> these areas have been deserted for nine days. businesses are trying to hang on. you wonder how they will fare there.
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martha: shop locally in the area of the help them out, right? bill: meantime tomorrow on thursday the bush presidential library and museum is opening in dallas, texas and what a moment this will be. all the living presidents come together at once. that center's mission to highlight the life and legacy of the former president while his eight years were served in the white house. casey staying gell is life there today. who will we see tomorrow, casey? good morning. >> reporter: bill, good morning. it will be a virtual who's who of top political leaders, no doubt about that. behind me crews are putting all the finishing touches. they're setting stage and putting out all the chairs. get this some 10,000 people are expected to be in attendance here on the southern methodist university campus. and also every single living president and first lady is going to be here, with the exception of nancy reagan. we understand president obama and the first lady michelle obama will be here. former secretaries hillary
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clinton, colin powell, condoleezza rice, michael chertoff. the list goes on and on. plenty of governors. tomorrow may be the official dedication of this, some six years in the making. with the library museum itself, bill will open to the public on may 1st. bill: got it. casey, have you been inside and what is on display inside the museum? >> reporter: pretty spectacular things. the museum is about 14,000 square feet. it will basically walk you through the bush presidency in chronological order. when you first go in you will see, remember the election debacle of 2000, when hanging, pregnant and dimpled chads became part of pop culture. then it transitions into what bush 43 thought his presidency was going to be. what he ran on as governor of texas, education, tax and immigration reform. then you turn the corner and september 11th. it happened eight months, you remember, into his first term. there is some steel inside
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from the world trade center. the famous bullhorn he used to speak to americans from ground zero. >> it is quite dramatic. it had a big impact on the trajectory of his presidency. beyond that is the response to 9/11, the 10 days the country had to mourn. president bush had to lead us through the terrible dark moment. >> reporter: from there you will transition into what became a new threat in this country, the global war on terror. an artifact in there gun saddam hussein had when he was captured. it was later presented to president bush. finally you will go through exhibits highlighting hurricane katrina and of course the recession. about 400,000 people are expected to file through this thing every single year. a lot is on display. truly educational. a pretty spectacular site, bill. bill: it will be good to visit too. thank you, casey stiegel,
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live from dallas on the campus of smu. a little later this hour we'll talk to president bush's former white house chief of staff. josh bolton is with us today. he will reflect a bit later. martha: fox news extreme weather alert for you right now on the flooding crisis in the midwest. water from those rising rivers is practically spilling out in every direction right now, literally submerging entire neighborhoods. look at these shots we're getting in from peoria heights, illinois, right now. meanwhile there is a massive effort underway to try to clean up some of the mess that was left behind. >> just like to come out here and see what the disaster was like and see the devastation. on a picnic table and shoes. >> the piles are incredibly tall. there is just the amount of debris is pretty remarkable. martha: crews say they managed to keep most of the flooding under control, forecasters say, oh, boy, they have got more rain on
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the way in that area. >> feel like that story will be with us for a while. a large rockslide shutting down part of a major highway in colorado. this from last night. at least nine rocks blocking that road. some of them said to be 10 feet long and 10 feet high! crews say they had to bring in special machinery to get them out of there. >> is that the same type of dynamics a water pipe freezes when you have freezing and thawing? that same dynamic goes on with rock. get moisture and high swings in temperature that causes expansion and contraction and that tends to increase the frequency of rocks coming down. bill: as you can imagine, traffic was backed up for miles. luckily there were no cars hit or no reports of injuries in colorado. martha: well the faa is on the hot seat as lawmakers get set to grill the agency chiefs about air traffic controller furloughs. we'll have that live for you. plus? >> the lengths to which he will go to avoid telling us
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the truth about the enemy is becoming comical. it is certainly embarrassing. bill: so that is charles krauthamer on the words president obama is not using. columnist michael good win who says, we're using hugs to deal with the thugs. he will explain. he is here live. martha: think about this, more than a decade after september 11th. we're learning about potential intelligence failures. remember all the talk how we needed to connect the dots? are we doing that? senator charles grassley joins us on that live next. >> is it true that his identity document did not match his airline ticket and if so, why did tsa miss the discrepancy? >> there was a mismatch there.
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crews search for the rubble, through the rubble for the missing. authorities say an eight-story complex housing factories and a shopping mall affected. 2000 people were in the building at the time. police say the owners were warned yesterday of a crack forming in that building's foundation. martha: lawmakers are now questioning whether a failure to share intelligence may have contributed to the boston terror attack. senate intelligence committee chairwoman dianne feinstein asking why agencies didn't keep an eye on this older brother after he returned from the six-month trip to russia. >> when he came back to this country, why didn't it ring a bell with the fbi intelligence unit that he should be checked out and vetted again? martha: iowa republican, senator charles grassley is the ranking member on the senate jibry committee. homeland security secretary janet napolitano testified before his committee
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yesterday. senator grassley, good to have you here today. >> thank you very much, martha. martha: we took a look at that back and forth and your question about why tsa would not have been picked up, would not have picked up on this young man. what troubles to you about the answer here? >> well we may have a 9/11 situation all over. and i heard you use, the term, maybe the dots are not being connected. martha: yee. >> is homeland security talking to fbi? now, this person left the united states january 2012. the older brother did, to go back to russia and the fbi didn't know that. we're told by the department of homeland security that there was, they used word ping. let's say there was an alert about his leaving. well then how come the fbi didn't know it? they brag about the technology that is spelled into this bill to help in the future. there is no amount of
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technology that is going to work if the department of homeland security is not talking to the fbi. so we have a real, we have a real problem here. martha: yeah. you know, i'm troubled by the fact that janet napolitano said, that by the time he came back, six months later, an fbi alert on him had expired. so the fbi alert expired while he was over there, according to her testimony in front of you yesterday. so then why wouldn't the fbi know that someone they have an alert on is traveling from the united states to russia? >> well, see, you get one story from the fbi and another story from dhs. and that is a major problem. same problem we had between the fbi and cia before 9/11. only then the law didn't allow them to talk to each other to prevent terrorism, let each other know about terrorism. in this particular instance we should be over that hurdle, learning a lesson from 9/11. martha: i'm wondering why we have a terror watch list and who is on it? if this person does not
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qualify to be on the terror watch list, and he has been questioned by the fbi. i know they didn't find anything on him then but you know what? russia had reasons to be suspicious about this man. we now know he clearly should have been followed up on. who gets on the terror watch list, if not this guy? >> this is opportunity when we have the immigration bill up and a happens once about every 25 years to fill in some of these, these shortcomings that we have in legislation today, or where one department is not talking to the other. and make it mandatory. martha: yeah. you know, why do we have a director of national intelligence? i don't mean to be disrespectful but james clapper, the dni position was created after september 11th to stop the exact problem that you and are here talking about today. where is he on this? why have we not heard from him why they're not talking to each other in this particular instance? >> well i can agree with your proposition. i don't think i want to
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tackle that until i get into a little bit deeper. but you're right, absolutely right. that is why the office was set up, to make sure all these various intelligence agencies and law enforcement agencies were communicating. martha: so where do we go from here? and is there, is there an issue with, perhaps, being too politically correct? when everybody is on the list, right? you have 500,000 on this tide list and smaller subset on terrorist list and we're not talking to the right people at least in this case. >> well, don't you think the problem is political correctness itself? when it comes to our national security and terrorism, the war on terrorism, that political correctness ought to have a lower priority. martha: how concerned are you on that same vein about the fact that now if it's true that they didn't, they weren't connected to a foreign entity, we know they traveled and some people think that is connection enough, but if it looks like they were radicalized sort
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of as a pocket, these two brothers, that they become treated like the columbine killers or the sniper in washington? is that a danger? >> of course it is a danger. that's where you get back to this issue, should they be tried in law enforcement or should they be treated like an enemy combatant. when you say enemy combatant, we don't mean sending them to gitmo. we mean take every opportunity you can to get every bit of information you can out of them before they're actually prosecuted. martha: yeah. >> and evidently that is not going to be done because there has been read the miranda rights. so he is going to clam up now. martha: i want to follow-up with you on this department of national intelligence and how they're doing with pulling everybody together to talk. senator, thank you. we'll talk again i hope soon. thank you, sir. >> thank you. bill: on that same note, martha, the boston bombing suspect has lawyered up. three public defenders appointed to dzhokar in his hospital room already. we'll talk with one of the
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former colleagues that prosecuted the shoe-bomber in that same city. high-profile case next. martha: a totally different story. a 12-year-old girl was kicked out of school for supporting her military dad. >> i will not make a change. she is standing her ground. as her mother and as a military wife i support my child. >> he says he is very proud of me for standing up for what i believe in and he can't wait to see me again.
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martha: a young girl from tennessee is grabbing national attention. she was kicked out of school for supporting her military
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dad. cj taylor wear as red support our troops shirt it class in honor of her dad who left for his sixth deployment this among -- month. cj's mom is outraged. here is what she said. >> this is ridiculous, this is military school on a militariry base. the high school is allowed to and they have exact same dress code as middle school but the middle school is not allowed to. >> the school claims once a month they allow jeans and school approved it. shirt but cj's choice of the shirt was not part of the dress code. that is a head scratcher. bill: seems like ridiculous is the right word there. dzhokhar tsarnaev, age 19, three federal public defenders have been assigned to defend him including a woman who defended everyone from drug violations to someone who tried to blow up the pentagon. she is a former public defender who attempted to
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defend the richard reid in december 2001. good morning to you from chap hell -- chapel hill, north carolina. good morning to you. you who difficult is it to defend this man? >> it is extremely difficult, bill, given the intense media attention and public scrutiny and the fact that miriam conrad's number one priority will be saving her client's life as he likely faces the death penalty. bill: conrad the lead public defender, i take it, is that right? >> yes. she is the head of the federal defender office in boston and she will, i imagine, be directing the defense in this case. bill: i see. tamara, it is public possible he is cooperating. it is possible he is i think ising based on the condition that he is in which is said to be fair at the moment? >> yes it is possible. and that could enable miriam
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and her colleagues to negotiate something less than a death penalty lear, which could ultimately help him obviously. bill: based on what we think we know inside that hospital room, he's, shaking his head yes and no to several questions. he wrote down on a piece of paper a few anticipates perhaps. one time he mouthed the word, no, and when you see this, at this point in an investigation and you think about it in a trial, a month down the road, or possibly even years in a case like this, that must make it exceedingly difficult for you to try and do what you need to do in order to defend him. but it seems from your first answer that the objective here is to make sure that he does not get the death penalty. is that, is that the best-case scenario do you believe? >> i, you know, it is
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somewhat premature because we don't know, you know, what all the evidence is but i would think that, that that could be the best-case scenario, a sentence of life in prison. and, in terms of representing someone who is in that condition, in a hospital room, and, it is possible that the wound that he suffered were self-inflicted as well. so in terms of his mental state there are a whole lot of factors that are up in the air. so when the attorneys are trying to establish rapport with him or just to collect basic information from him, it could be extremely challenging. bill: with regard to that self-inflicted gunshot, there is some confusion as to whether it happened that way or not. and we'll let the facts bear out the direction that goes. react to this. the judge there, judge bolle are is the name of the judge
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at the conclusion of the initial appearance in the hospital room now, quote, i find the defendant is alert, mentally competent, lucid and aware of the nature of the proceedings. react to that. >> yeah, it is hard for me to accept that all of those things are necessarily true and that they were true at that moment. i'm sure that judge billioner was making that conclusion to the best of her ability. there will be lots of evaluations of this young man in the days and weeks to come. the defense team is going to look into retaining medical personnel to evaluate him. psychologists to look at his mental state as well as his competency. so all of that could be at issue as the case unfolds. bill: okay. thank you.
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tamara birkhead out of north carolina today, defended richard reid the shoe-bomber in 2001. appreciate your analysis. >> thank you, bill. martha: some critics have been slamming the president for what he is not saying about the boston bombing suspects. the reluctance in calling out radical islam. bill: also on a much different note, nasa snapping its first image what is being called the comet of the century. the incredible pictures and more importantly, where is this thing headed next? ♪ . i'm over the hill.
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travel. they are blaming the faa for not coming up with a real solution while democrats are blaming colleagues in congress for not finding their way out of the cuts. a senator republican leader ripped senator harry reid for using a budgetary gimmick for getting out of this mess. >> the majority leader is ditching the president on this issue. the president has said he would only consider replacing the sequester with attacks hike. whatever you want to say about oko it's not attacks hike it's borrowed money. >> reporter: overseas contingency operations. that is using money not spent on the war to try to offset the cuts. other republicans have called this a manufactured crisis mismanaged from the outset and they say it smells of politics, martha. martha: mike, thank you. >> reporter: thank you.
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bill: 26 minutes now before the hour. critics slamming the president's reaction in pons to the boston bombings. here is the exchange with bill o'reilly and charles krauthammer. >> he's afraid if he uses the word muslim it will stigma ty a billion people on earth. >> everyone else on earth knows it's muslim terrorism but he won't admit it because he's afraid they are going to be sigma tied. they are already stigma tied. >> you don't have to convince me. >> it's so insane that i tonight understand. >> in the end it's embarrassing. bill: that from last night. michael good win columnist and fox news contributor. he wrote the piece, thugs with hugs. he's afraid if he uses the word muslim he'll stigma ty a billion people around the world. >> i think that's certainly part of it. the other part of it is the president seems to belief that americans don't like muslims and
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therefore he will not just stigmatize muslims but unleash bigotry in america. to me that is the most unappealing part of the president's behavior here. it almost assumes the worst about his fellow americans, as though somehow we can't be told the truth, we have to be told a lie or an omission of the truth in order to prevent us -- mr. . bill: that is a strong suggestion here pause what you're saying if the president goes there the rest of the american people go there too and then we are all racist against muslims. >> that's right. the fact is as bill o'reilly was saying, we all know this that the 16 terror plots in new york city in the last ten years, for example that were broken up all involved muslim men. canada knows this with the al-qaida bust this web. boston we certainly know the tsarnaevs were doing this out of jihad motives as the younger one has told investigators. the president refuses to say
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it. it's no secret. as a result of that what he does then with his speech last friday night after the capture, sort of lecturing people we have to be careful, we have to not use a broad brush. it's almost as though america is on trial. no, no, america has been attacked the terrorists are on trial. america survived its attack now, we move forward. the idea that we cannot be told the truth because we will react badly to the truth i think makes the president look foolish. bill: you could make the point then if you're president of the united states as commander-in-chief with the disclaimers that would follow. >> of course. bill: you write this now, on the screen to put it kindly, the president is stuck in deep denial, shadow boxing against the truth he can't bring himself to say, muslim terrorist. you have a theory on this. the next line says, to do s so might feed a store kwroe tim stereotype and feed prejudice. >> as though somehow americans
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can't handle the truth. we can't accept the fact that all muslims are terrorists but many terrorists are muslims. so those are both true. for the president only to say, not all muslims are terrorists without also acknowledging link to jihad between those who have been involved in the bombings and plots that have been broken up i think does him a disservice, it discredits him. what he says after that i think rings hollow. bill: a lot of what you talk about today and you write in your columns is you're trying to get into the head of the president. do you think there is a meeting at the white house that specifically says we are not going to go here because of a, b and c or is it more eupl mind thaimplied than that. >> this is deliberate. it's not the first time. we saw it with benghazi. the talking points were edited to takeout al-qaida. we see it with fort hood, it's work-place violence not terrorism. on anon and on and on. the president does the country a
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disservice without trusting the american team to say you can handle the truth here. i think it's a mistake on his part and makes him look like he is hiding something when we already know the answer. bill: it's an interesting analysis. we'll wait to see what comes up next when the statements and questions come. another maes out today, terrorists we are ear so sorry. check that out online. martha: an unusual thing is happening today, all of the remaining living presidents are heading towards texas for tomorrow's opening of the bush presidential library. we are going to talk to the former white house chief of staff for president george w. bush about his bosses ago he gas see. bill: a neighborhood hero comes to the rescue with something you would know at expect. >> who gets mugged in he's million creek? i jumped up, through my clothes on grabbed my sword and out i came. if you think running a restaurant is hard,
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bill: here we go now. fox news alert back to the news that is breaking. five people dead one injured after a shooting in manchester, illinois. this is the first video we have seen from the scene there. fox st. louis working this story. manchester, illinois 85 miles north of st. louis. reports of a suspect in custody, that, however, is not cop firmed. the scott county sheriff's department saying there were multiple people shot, including a child who was taken to a springfield, illinois hospital. many schools said to be in
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lockdown. updates coming up shortly when we get them here in "america's newsroom." martha: the opening of the bush presidential library in texas is going to take place tomorrow bringing our nation's 43rd president back into the national spotlight. since leading the white house president bush has repeatedly said that history would be the judge of his legacy. watch this. >> if you were to give yourself a letter grade on your eight years, what would it be? >> a for effort. a for love of country. a for assembling a fabulous team. but history will judge the results and i'll not going to be around for history's final verdict. martha: look at that picture as he left the white house. we are glad to be joined this morning by josh bolton who served as white house chief of staff to president george w. bush and he's at the bush center at southern methodist university in the backdrop there.
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good to have you back, good morning. >> thanks for having me. martha: i want to show a picture of the living presidents who are right now on their way. i'm always so struck when you see, this is an extremely exclusive club, and they will be in attendance tomorrow for this momentous event. and, you know, since president bush left office we saw the interview that he did there. he's been pretty soft smoke even. what do you think about that? has any of that surprised you post presidency? >> no, it hasn't surprised me at all. i mean he appreciated it when previous presidents stayed out of his way when he was president, and i know he was determined as a post president not to interfere in the politics of the day. martha: you know, you look at that picture of all of those presidents, and it brings to my mind how really surprising it was after president bush 41 left office that he and bill clinton, who had beaten him became very close partners in a lot of ventures.
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do you see -- can you see something like that in the future for president obama and bush 43? >> sure, why not. you know, president george w. bush and president bill clinton entered into a terrific partnership together at the request of president obama to help the people of haiti in the clinton-bush haiti fund, injures as george w. bush has asked presidents clinton and bush to help after katrina. i think these partnerships are becoming a regular part of our landscape, and i think it's more for the american people to see that we can put partisanship aside and especially in a post presidency. martha: there are pieces written this morning about how much of the bush legacy president obama really did carry-on with counterterrorism also continuing on the work in immigration, the global aids fight which president bush was so much a real who sort of leader in that area.
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but this article also talks about the fact that president obama they say has really not given president bush much credit throughout the course of his own presidency. >> well, you know, that is politics. but i think one of the great things about the museum behind me right now is that people will have a chance to see that during the bush years there were a lot of hard won bi-partisan successes from which people are benefitting today. you mentioned a lot of them. but what people will see in the museum are successes like the aids program, like education reform, medicare prescription drugs, all of which were done during the bush years on a bi-partisan basis with great partners like late senator ted kennedy, and people are still benefitting from those today. i hope that changes some folks' perspective. martha: president bush said history would judge him. let's take a look at the
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approval numbers which have been improving for the past president. he is now at 49% be favorable rating, not that far away from where president obama is right now at 52%. why do you think people are sort of taking a second look at the bush presidency? >> well, i think, you know, as the years pass after a very difficult set of years that marked the bush administration, i mean, remember that he -- right at the start of his presidency was 9/11, in the middle was katrina the wars in iraq and afghanistan and book ended at the end was the financial crisis. those are really hard years, hard things for the american people, and i think as the years pass emotions fade a little bit and people get to have a more objective look about what is going on. martha: well, people can take themselves through that at the library and sort of ask themselves, given what was going on at that time what decision would you have made? and it's very interactive.
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i look forward to seeing it. josh, thanks so much for spending time with us today. you'll have a really exciting couple of days down there. good to see you, sir. >> it is terrific. thank you, martha. nice to be with you. bill: tomorrow will be a big day. we'll watch it from here too. 11 minutes before the hour. jon scott is roll our way in a couple of minutes. how are you doing, jon, good morning. jon: i'm doing good. there is a shocking column out by the former head of the cia unit that hunted osama bin laden. his thoughts on the terror attack in boston stunned a lot of people. we will have the thoughts for you and strong reaction from another terror expert ahead. we are also following an outrage just statement by a u.n. official who said bostonians got what they deserved. how is that? we'll explain that just ahead. and friend barnes joins us to discuss his column in the "wall street journal," he says the senate has the votes to pass immigration reform. is that true? you'll find out "happening now." bill: we'll see you then. thank you, jon, see you at the top of the hour.
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the so-called comet of the century has barometer now been tracked. where it's heading, when it's expected to arrive, and boy, do we need to be on the look out? say you what say you? @ñ@@@í
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bill: it's expected to be one of the biggest cosmic events we have seen in decades the so-called comet of the century. the head of that comet about 3,000 miles wide. the tail more than 57,000 miles long. the center area called the nuke khraoe unuke lust is 3 to 4 miles across. it was discovered last
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september. they've been watching it every since. we have the managing editor of back with us in studio. good morning to you. >> it's basically out kind of beyond jupiterment it's coming into the inner solar system. it will swing around the sun, flare-up, hopefully be one of the brightest things we've seen in the night skies for years. bill: not coming near the planet earth. >> it will be near earth, still millions of miles away, no threat. bill: that is taken care of. i've reading through your comments here, tareq. you're saying most promising, unrao predictable but promising yet again. in what since is it promising? >> this promises to be the brightest comment we've seen in the night sky in years. you know, possibly even decades. that's why nasa all the scientists are calling its the comet of the century. we don't know if it will perform. we don't want to basically say it's going to happen and then something happens with the comet
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on the way in, it breaks apart, fizzles out, burns up by the sun that could happen. so if it survives that pass through the sun in november then on thanksgiving night we could see something really fantastic. bill: we have some time to watch this thing still. >> exactly . it's still very far away. it will get brighter in the nighttime soon. in the summer it may be visible to the naked eye. bill: we don't need a tell cope, we don't need hubble, we can go in the backyard and watch this. >> that is the best thing about this. in september leading up to christmas it should be an amazing night-sky sight. the tail could stretch along the night sky. bill: what would we see if it behaves and acts the way you expect it to. >> it will start out as a bright, fuzzy spec in the night sky. as it gets closer to the sun in november it would get bigger, the tail would sweep out possibly covering a lot of the sky. it could be brighter than a full moon at night.
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it will be an awesome experience. bill: it will be really cool to watch. this can be quite spectacular. >> this is the sky watching event of the year. bill: happy anniversary to hubble, 23 years old today. that's right. bill: thank you, ta req. martha: an eye-opening new report on the deadly theroux attack on our consulate in libya. the latist accusations on who may have changed the white house talking points when we come back.
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