tv Media Buzz FOX News October 28, 2013 1:00am-2:01am PDT
>> media buzz is up next. mean extreme media rising up, ticked off. expressing outrage, this time about obama care. >> who misled them? who misled the president on this? are you telling me five days before that somebody let the president go out to the american public to give this speech and say this and make this promise? >> look, the president is frustrated. he made that clear in his remarks today. >> given all the problems that we've seen with people trying to enroll in this program, is the white house going to be delaying the mandate? >> no. does the white house owe the country an apology for this particular country? >> was this journalistic scrutiny too slow in coming and
is the press piling on? plus, a white house official for tweets has nasty things to say about journalists. big bucks into journalist, the ebay's founder launching, can these billionaires boost the news business? and six-second videos have become all the rage and turned one 15-year-old boy into a star. >> how did that become so popular? >> i'm howard kurtz and this is media buzz. you know the drill, send us a tweet about the show. we'll read the best ones at the end of the program. conservative xhen taters
have been bashing obama care for a long time. but this week, it was the washington press core that led the rollout. >> the problem here is that it's one false promise after another and that could be a big problem. >> that's just like after katrina, the big problem president bush had was to say, hey, way to go, brownie. maybe they were at war is a better analogy. >> katrina, a rock, that tells you all you need to know. and it seems tos can late after president obama promised to fix the program and recited that 800 number. insurances led by the "new york times" and washington post have been unearthing more details of this fiasco. what do we make of this coverage? joining us now, lauren ashburn. kirsten powers, and alley holmes, anchor of real news on
blaze tv. lauren ashburn, what explains this dramatic shift in the coverage of obama care? >> reporters have their fangs out now to use a halloween term because for two weeks of the government shutdown, that's what people were covering. meanwhile, this story was bubbling in the background that says this system is broken. so now that the shutdown story is behind us, everybody is going forward. the second reason is because reporters can access the website by themselves. it's not like some national security issue where you can't get into the computer. >> you need to hire somebody else. >> that's right. or read some government report in order to understand it. and that means first person stories and first person stories from reporters are very easy to do. you only have to interview yourself. >> i think reporters who cover health care have done a good job, but should the scrutiny have started earlier? >> certainly conservatives would make that argument and if they put their scrutiny on this, but
i agree with lauren. this is a made for media story because it literally involved media. anybody with an internet connection can go online and get a site that's crashing. anybody can call in and be put on hold. but i think what is dangerous for the administration is not just that the press is reporting basic facts and hundreds of thousands of people apparently getting their health care coverage to drop and cancel because of obama care, but now it's shifting aus heard into charges that the president is disengaged. he's detached. and possibly even dishonest. and i think that's what you're really hearing a tonal shift. >> kirsten powers, you were defending this early on. in defense of the journalist, it's hard to cover a train wreck before the train derails. some of these questions were raised about a lot of this. the other night, bill o'reiley scolded you for being too optimistic and then you had your own personal brush with obama care.
>> i should say i still support obama care as a program. and i still think the idea of health insurance, insuring 30 million uninsured, i support the president's effort to do that. the rollout has been a disaster and it's inexcusable. there's no reason that they shouldn't have -- they had two years to do this. there's no reason they shouldn't be able to do it. they have minimized the damage. kathleen sebelius said i wish i had five years. that's ridiculous. you don't need five years to do this. the other problem is that the president made a lot of promises that aren't holding up which is you're not going to have to change your health care. >> are you okay? >> i'm going to have to change my health care and it's going to go up by quite a bit of money. which i've said before, i'm happy to pay if 30 million people are going to get insured because of it, but i'm in a position to pay it, a. 50i78 not living paycheck to paycheck like most americans are. i'm not supporting a family. so i can do that. but more importantly, it's not
what the president said was going to happen. so i don't think that's that's okay as a policy matter that's not okay. >> i think repters are frustrated about having been misled and i think they're also ticked off about not being able to get answers to basic questions, how many people have you covered so far and -- >> sure, stonewalling is never a good idea. the other problem is, the story has so many different legs and in the news business, that means that the story isn't going away and it's going to continue for a long time and it has a lot of different things. take, for example, just the coverage from this week. welcome back designers are on the hill. the "new york times" says that the health care law is failing to lower prices in rural areas. >> then there aren't enough secured. >> because there aren't enough. then you have politicians like democratic rep richard nolan of minnesota who says president obama needs to man up and find out who was responsible and fire them. that's a lot of legs for stories. >> that's right. and in terms of legs, we're seeing the coverage not just in the political press and the political pages.
we're seeing it in the business section, in the health care section, in the technology section. yet on thursday when the house held its first hearing when the four contractors said we did a good job and the other people screwed up, the president came out and gave remarks about immigration reform, how he wants it to appear. the cameras went from the hearing, covering the president, everyone went back to the hearing. did that work? >> president obama is trying to change the subject. he's trying to shift to political ground that he thinks is more favorable to him and to the democratic party. frankly, it's not working. >> there is a fight that has broken out among liberal commentators. joan chided to her fellow liberals who has been critical of the rollout, the headlines was liberal pundit failed, rush to attack obama site only aids unhinged right. what do you make of the fact
that some liberals are saying other liberals are muting their system? >> you have no credibility if you do that. she also attacked ryan liz of the new yorker. ryan and ezra cline are not liberal pundits. they're journalists. they may be liberal people, but they're journalists. >> they're very good journalists who do a lot of reporting. >> their credibility is on the line and they can't just lie to people. you would have to lie in that situation. i am one of the biggest supporters of obama care. i have gone to the mat on obama care over and over and over. but you can't pretend this isn't happening. >> the emperor wears no clothes. >> and it's a real setback for people who believe in acts of discoverment and believe that we should have the single payer system. so it's a setback. >> i'm the only guy here. i'm trying to keep it on the high road. you mentioned, amy, the health style section, the lifestyle
section, another place where the obama care debacle has broken through is on the camdy section. let's take a look at last night, "saturday night live" rolled out someone who looked like catherine sebelius. >> a lot of folks have been talking about our new health care enrollment website, how it's been crashing and freezing, shutting down, not working and breaking and sucking. well, tonight, i have a number of friendly tips to help you deal with those technical problems. for example, have you tried restarting your computer? >> and john seward weighed in this week with a pretty sinking bit of mockery. >> health care.gov has been plagued by glitches. >> glitches. >> snap foos. >> the bugs, kinks, whatever you want to call this. >> glitches. >> yes, apparently the heal
healthcare.gov website has 99 problems, but a glitch is all of them. >> how significant is jon stewart joining the critics? >> he's made obama care a punch line for america. and what's striking about this is he has been so critical of republicans. everyone knows he's very liberal. fox news in particular. and his statistics on the demographics of his show are really what make this important. 40% are supportive democrats and independents both. and the younger people who washing it. 40% of his viewers are 30 or younger, who need to sign up for this program who probably now are not going to do it. >> what about shawn hanaby who called the obama care hot line, she answered a lot of questions she wasn't supposed to answer. she got fired. he's paying her $26,000 salary for the next year trying to help
her. should he have done that and got somebody in trouble? >> i think you can call a hot line. it's a 1-800 number publicly given out. >> and he asked her permission to go on the air. >> right. i think the story here is the only person that hasn't gotten fired yet is a 1-800 hot line operator. >> and what about we saw the kathleen sebelius parity. what about the way she has been turned into a media pinata over the demands that she be fired or somebody be fired. >> well, it's her job. she's responsible for it. i think the reason she's not going to get fired is we're in the middle of a crisis and it doesn't make sense to fire the person that is helping shepherd you through it. and i think the administration thinks there's no way to get somebody confirmed. >> they don't want to look like they were backed into a corner. >> but my problem with this is, okay, either fire her or support her and they're not doing either. in a "new york times" story, the
"new york times" interviewed her brother and sister to talk about how good of a person she is. and her character. and the white house was nowhere behind her. >> well, but in another "new york times" story, a person who was not mentioned by name, but it was described as having been close to both sebelius and the white house says, well, kathleen has the title, but she doesn't have the responsibility or in many respects the kind of wide authority and access to the president that she needs to make a difference. so the white house seems to be, you know, she doesn't really do much so it's not kind of our fault. >> which is ridiculous. somebody does need to take the fall for this. whether or not it's her is up to the president of united states. there are reasons for it, reasons against it. but it needs to be done and it deserves covered. >> one of the things we do on this program is we try to cut through the accusations. during the shutdown, republicans were getting pummeled in the press and politically.
looks. cnn's ari fliesher married on woman and she's as ugly as he is. and there was this about fox's dana purino. >> take a look about what he did with our ownco host. look at this tweet. check it out. oh, you are such a gleemg hope for dumb blond air heads everywhere. >> both of his tweet bes women had to do with their weight. so i think he just called me dumb. >> at least he just called me dumb. >> what drives someone with a high profile job to do that? >> i think you'd have to ask anthony weiner that. at this point, you have to sort of -- it's more of a psychological question, a question about human nature that when people put on this anonymous cloak, apparently their inner gremlin comes out. as dana pointed out, so many of the comments were about women and women and weight and a
gender angle to this. >> i said lynn cheney is a fat big. ann romney and chelsea clinton needed to lose weight. while one journalists might have snarked privately, now you're under pressure to deliver these 140 chaker commentary to attract readers. >> so, lauren, are you letting him off the hook? >> no, i'm not. this is different. this is also him creating an account just to vent his private -- >> he attracted 1600 people. but he says they were foreign policy types and journalists and -- >> i'm talking about the broader picture, the bigger picture of why twitter has become what it's become. >> this is what twitter is like. >> i just feel like this is what i deal with on a daily basis. i can't say the things on air that are said on a regular basis. >> you say something on the air and -- >> and you get back the "c" word, whatever.
you get called everything in the book, you're ugly, you're a bimbo, you're an air head. >> some want you to be killed. >> so any woman in the media will tell you this is what happens to them. and if you're a woman of color, they're racist comments. that is really what -- talk to michelle malkin, people will tell you this is what happens. i mean, reading his tweets are just like reading my feed on my twitter page. >> joseph joseph said in a statement after lost his job that this started out as a paridy account. but obviously, he's a smart guy and so he just wondered why people would do that as opposed to somebody who has a cry for attention because he doesn't have a job. >> it is attention seeking. he's doing it in this anonymous way so he can get a thrill when people tweet back to when what he's written and have this whole sort of private social life on twitter. but it's depressing to me that people go to twitter to write these nasty things. i think there is a gender ang
sxl women do suffer the brunt of a lot of the nastier comments. >> but the broader question here and the broader philosophy about social media is that you can be anonymous and think no one is going to know who you are. and in this case, they planted fake information and the guy got caught. >> there was a whole white house sting when they actually caught him pup wonder if they could give this technique to the justice department, giving him tidbits. >> with the national security council, you would think they could get to the bottom of it. >> there are news organizations like the huffington post that are going to ban ain accordance anonymous comments. >> but keith obermann used to send messages like this to me, calling me an air head and a bimbo and a wind up doll. >> you're saying with his name attached. >> with his name attached. there are plenty of men in the media who behave this way with their names attached to it. you know, the way they talk
about sarah palin or the way they -- let's not prosecute tend this is only about men who anonymously do it. >> it gets them more attention, more coverage. >> do you remember interviewing megan kelly where megan kelly said she went to shawn hanady who said wa do i do about this? he said, you know, you have to have that rhinoceros skin. hillary clinton said the same thing. you have to go to twitter and say, okay, i've got my night suit on. >> this story was broken by josh brogan in "the daily beast." he called -- i guess josh rogen got to punch back. .maybe twitter should think about allowing all ooh these parity accounts. generally you have to use your real name if you want to spout off to the world. >> and it's a kinder place. >> all right.
kirsten powers and amy, lauren, thanks for joining us. the "new york times" plans to file a lawsuit. audrey hudson had exposed problems with the homeland security department and the agents took her notes and documents that she had obtained under the freedom of information act. they had a warrant to search for unregistered firearms suspected of belonging to her husband. but hudson's journalistic work is absolutely not connected to that probe and the administration hasn't adequately explained what seems like highly questionable conduct. up next, oots fatal school shooting makes news. but coverage of the crime quickly fades.
let's begin with a developing story, a new american tragedy and this time a middle school in reno, nevada. >> it has nearly been a year since the awful scoot shooting at sandy hook elementary schooling in newtown, connecticut. >> the police are telling us a student shot and killed a teacher and wounded two classmates. >> just heartbreaking. a seventh grade student opened fire, killing an eighth grade teacher, a hero who tried to stop the rampage before the student himself was killed. cnn provided a fair amount of coverage and the shooting was a top story on the nut work news cast and morning shows. then it quickly faded. the great media machine moved on. a seventh grade killer was no longer major news. now, i hate to say this, but in the cold calculation of news executives, the death toll was rather low. what happened at that school in nevada was no newtown, it was now virginia tech, it was no
columbine. only two people died. in our news this week, a 14-year-old has been accused of stabbing and killing a teacher. but think about this nevada tragedy. a middle school shooting is essentially a one-day story now. we in the media, we in the country have become desense advertised to violence involving children. perhaps that was inevitable given the spate of recent shootings that happened here at the navy yard has almost become the normal. send us a sweet about our show. coming up, high tech multiples investing their millions and billions in media. can they transform the struggling news business?
stations for a very long time. but now people who made their fortune in the tech world are being drawn to the struggling journalism business. the latest to dig deep into his pockets is the founder of ebay, pierre, he's pouring millions into a news venture to be headed by glenn greenwald who disclosed those n is a surveillance documents that he received from edward snowden. joining us now, farhad nanju. and here in washington, david zurich, television and media critic for the baltimore sun. farhad, do these tech billionaires have a shot at reviving and revolutionizing the news business? >> yeah. i don't want to be too hopeful, but i would say that they do have a shot. i think for the first time that i've been working in journal i. for the past ten years or so, there's some glimmers of hope. there's reasons to be optimistic that we may see a turn around.
and that's mostly because these billionaire res known to -- are known primarily for their business model innovations, for the experimentation and their willingness to try new things. .that's precisely, i think, what the journalism business needs. and, of course, they also have deep pockets so they can -- you know, they can sustain lots of losses before something pays off. >> it really helps to have a big bank book, especially since these changes will obviously take time. but how do you sell news? let me put up a photo on the screen from the founder of ebay starting this new online venture. he says in an interview with the "new york times," david karr, very few people today actually read those serious news stories on the web. now, the audience for the most important stories can be depressingly small. there will always be a core of readers wanting to support that work, but it is a tiny, tiny percentage of the broader society. that's part of the reason we are doing a general interest site. yao thoughts? >> yeah. that's kind of the big problem
that's always plagued news. and there have been various ways to address that over the years. one of the reasons that the "new york times" sunday paper is so big is because people want a lot of different kinds of things. people, you know, advertisers pay for the movies section, advertisers pay for the fashion section and the "new york times" can take all that money and use it to save for the pure in iraq which not many people read, but it's important journalism that they have to do. so there's that sort of tradeoff, right? >> i think that's a -- >> provide stuff for the masses and then you fund serious journalism with it. >> i think that's a very good analogy. do you see jeff basos and others as potential saviors here? >> i think that's the danger. if we stay away from the savior language, it's easy because these guys have money, we need money.
they have expertise and they have a very special expertise. they know how to get people on your site, on your plat form, and they know how to walk them around and make money. they actually get people to spend money. we just want them to be there long enough to look at the ads. >> i spec'd a cynical -- >> no, no, no. here is where i'm optimistic about that. these guys can do it. but i'm worried that we talk about them as if we can save us. the other thing we have to learn is we're the poor cousins now and they're the rich guys. and we need to be careful not to throw our values away in this process. i'm very excited about wanting to do public service journalism and understanding that it's not a big moneymaker. that's an interesting point because people like jeff basos who is the founder and ceo of amazon, they have big companies to run. they clash with the government. they have their own special interests and now basos is part
of the special interests. so i wonder, do you think that's a potential problem that they, you know, are sort of part of corporate america? and also could basos use his experience in amazon to get people to stay on a news site longer or to be repeat customers? >> i think that's always a danger, but that's a danger ever present in the media today. "the washington post" company before bas oo s bought it, you know, they ran capllan, this huge education company and that had a lot of dealings in washington and a lot of controversy and the washington post, the newspaper, had to steer around it and report on it. that happens in all big media companies. so i don't think it's very different in this case. so i think jeff basos' expertise, i think that's one. the other thing, though, one of the things he's shown with amazon is that he's willing to try a lot of different business models and wait, even if they fail for a while, wait for them to pay off opinion we saw this
with amazon prime, with the kindle business, with his web services business, things take time to pay off. that's his real skill. he's willing to try different things and just wait. that's something the old sort of media companies couldn't do because they didn't have the money to wait around. >> and briefly, david, glenn greenwald is the showcase star of this new site. will that make many people think it's a liberal site or maybe that's a plus, like the huffington post which is granted as being left of center. >> i think the things that have been said so far sound really good. concerned about public service journalism and understanding that that's what's going to get cut because of the money. and he's got the money to do it. i really like what he's saying. but i'm serious. don't think of these guys as saviors. we cannot do. we have to save ourselves in a way if we can work with them. when basos says, never be boring and everybody act like, oh, what wisdom? >> 30 years ago, all right. stick around.
a couple of inta stram gram photos may have hurt the man running for governor. he stopped by a beach house party in delaware last june to talk to his son. a picture shows his surrounded by rowdy teenagers, some of them who looked like they just might be drinking. baltimore sun found out about it, conducted a two-hour interview with gansler and broke the story. >> maryland's attorney general is under fire after being seen in this picture at a party where underage drinking was reportedly taking place. >> but now, photos have shown up of gamsler holding a cell phone amid underage partiers last june. >> if you look at the picture, not right where i was, but there were one or two kids holding red cups and generally there could be cool aid in the red cups but there's probably beer in the red cups. i didn't go over and stick my nose in and see and maybe i should have. >> back with the baltimore sun's
david zurich. first of all, could this have become such a big story without inta gram? what are the odds the baltimore sun would have found this photo? >> probably not. and that photo, those optics, there's that one and another one that shows gansler looking at a young woman who is twerking. abc had that one. >> you have to get that one right up front. >> i'm serious. these pictures, the optics drove the story in a way. now, what i want to stress is the sun got the picture, did old school traditional first rate journalism, went to him, confirmed it, sat down with him, did a two-hour interview with him. so it really is a meshing of what's available now in social media with old school journalism and i think that's why it had such tremendous impact. >> now, i know doug amsler is the attorney general of maryland
and illegal activity wag going on in delaware. but did the sun turn into into a huge scandal? >> no. and he's also -- he has psas out there where he's talk about being a good parent in terms of drinking and more stringent requirements in terms of underaged drinking. so there's the high pape poypoc. >> just to be fair, his son wasn't drinking, he wasn't drinking and is his his job to police whatever may have been going on with all those red cups and that beach was on the morning show started out with it. as you know, they're about family, lifestyle, parenting. so they discuss it and what's a good parent to do? msnbc did i can seven or nine minutes on it, which is a long parenting discussion for cable
tv because they were showing these pictures. and these pictures are shocking for a law enforcement officer. you know, not just the joke, but the commentary said this -- you know, jay leno in his monolog said miley cyrus called it fake, turn it down, the volume is too loud. this is the context, america. but on the other side of that, every parent who has teenagers know it's impossible to police everything, there's probably a lot of drinking that goes on, yes, it is against the law and i am not defending it. but on lots of college campuses, this take place. gansler shows up there for five minutes, and your moosh shows the picture and, again, it seems to be the instagram driven story. >> no argument, the instagram is important. but when you get the interview with him where he says it's not my responsibility after all of these psas, it's a different story. and then the next day after it breaks and he has a press conference, he says, well, maybe i should have looked into it, whether people were drinking.
howie, this is absolute irresponsibility. and when you look at those pictures, you will see something else. one, you'll see a gender issue in terms of a male gazing at a young woman performing. that's one thing. if she's not performing, she's not doing it for public entertainment. she's just dancing with her friend. he's looking. number two, those images are privilege. a lot of people can't pay for their kids' school supplies in a public school. this guy ran a beach house with his friends for hem to have this blowout week-long party. this is a real problem for him as the gubernatorial candidate. >> how important are images like this in a story, for example, if the baltimore sun had no picture, but quoted five people saying he was at a party where there was drinking. >> very different story. you and i both know that. hugely different story. these pictures, he can talk about them, he can have press conferences until his lips fall off explaining it. people look at the picture, that's what they see. >> thank you very much for stopping by this sunday morning. after the break, tens of
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time now for our digital download. when twitter launched its service called vine i thought, six-second video? how much can you say in six seconds? >> vine is more popular than justin bieber, or miley cyrus. >> will you marry me? >> the 15-year-old sophomore has become an internet star. >> sam champion, blabber mouth at the weather board.
take a loofnlgt -- take a look. >> this is the coldest air that has made it all the way down. >> you just got upstaged. >> i did, by the vine. >> explain what you were going to say. >> the vine now has been eye popping 1.5 million followers for this guy. he is doing silly stuff. they are veiners and they released a new app and it is a big social media trend. they have 13 million followers in the spring and now 40 million. >> 40 million followers on vine. it turns anyone into a film maker. you don't need special effects or camera equipment. if people like you you are on gma. >> don hoffman, one of the co-founders gave an interview and they said why six seconds? >> he said we went with 10 and we went with 9 and five seemed too short, but six seemed as stetson particular to get the
feel. then they watched it and didn't feel it was great. you get this 6-second thing and it it loops and it loops and it loops. >> i found "wall street journal" reporters using vine. a lot of times they post their own family pictures which is more fun. i still feel like six seconds what does it reflect our short attention span? >> at the con veptions i -- conventions i remember 15-second videos on another group called tout and that seemed short. but six seconds? a lot are really funny. that's what is driving this. there are companies like ge and other mobile companies who are hiring viners to do vines for their company and they are getting paid between $1,000 and $5,000 a pop. >> because most of it is free, but you could make money with 6-second talent.
what didn't occur to me until i looked into it is the length is made for mobile phones and you don't want something that goes on for 7 and a half minutes. and facebook's instagram started allowing video and has tried to compete with this. they are allowing longer videos. >> twitter was taking their videos. >> you can use a tripod and e phones to have a microphone to have better quality. you are your own film maker, your own production company with an iphone. >> are you ready to try it? it is a lot of pressure. six seconds, has to be good. >> watch media buzz and you will make a great day. >> we also should mention this comes at a time when twitter is gearing up for the ipo. it will hit the market with almost a billion and a half dollars. i think twitter may have learned a lesson from facebook which is a bigger company. the cap is $127 billion and twitter will be 12 billion.
it is not to put the evaluation too high. >> that's true. it also has to grow more viewers than the 40 million that it has. it also has to figure out a way to make money. a lot of people who are putting these vines together say they don't want to put advertising in it. they don't want to muck it up. that's a real problem for sustain built. >> people like it because it is pure and seems noncommercial. all right, still to come, your best tweets about the program, speaking of twitter and ron burgundy is back in the anchor chair. [ grunts softly ]
top sweets of the the media is upset and critical of the investigation and it is so invested in its success. they are pressured to get it right. rich ungar said the mainstream media overreacted in vicious attacks on the affordable health care act website. politi-chick when the rememberer meets the road media could no longer run slack. they can't be spun, it is blatant, glaring incompetence.
and more about our media fail. we told you the ap had retracted a story that falsely accused the gubernatorial candidate accused of fraud. a terrible mistake, no question about it. the wire service has now fired reporter bob lewis, a veteran enrichment. punishment too harsh? i think so. office holders praised lewis as he was a straight shooter. lewis says he was stunned and hurt by his dismissal. this is one of the stranger corrections around on a "washington post" piece and the pr from guantanamo bay. they referred to navy captain robert duran as thick set and he should have been described as muscular. wonder what the muscular captain did to get that changed. and ron burr -- burgundy changed the name of local tv news. this bafoon asked an important question. >> why do we have to tell the
people what they need to hear? why can't the news be fun? >> while some experts say silicone breast i'm -- implants are dangerous -- >> not the approach i wanted to see, but i think the ratings are good. we had to cut that off because i didn't want a scolding from you. we continue on twitter, facebook and on our home page, fox news.com/media buzz. we will be back next sunday morning at 11:00 eastern and repeated again at 5:00 eastern in the afternoon with the latest buzz. thanks for watching. >> it is monday october 28th. witnesses in between zi exposing chilling details about that
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heather childers. >> i am ainsley earhardt. conrad murray is a free man. while you were sleeping conrad murray was released he served two years for administering the deadly dose of propofol. his early release a result of good behavior. he plans to try to get his license back in the state of nevada. also new overnight a halloween hay ride takes a frightening turn at a camp in milford, michigan. people watched in hoar worror a tractor sends passengers right off the ride. >> i had seen people being taken away on stretchers. children wrapped in if blankets. >> you have a lot of hills to come down a lot of turns. 8 people were hurt their injuries are nonlife thetening. a fair ride operator