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ken, i don't find the commercials offensive, but insurance is there for emergencies, you don't encourage ways to use send me an e-mail to kelly. this is the kelly file. it is a democratic civil war in washington. >> the president should honor the commitment to federal government and let those people keep what they got. >> will the president be able to weather this storm? >> obama care navigators caught on tape telling you to lie. >> don't get yourself in trouble by declaring it now. >> we have the explosive hidden camera video. plus, nfl legend mike ditka with the latest developments on the bullying scandal. "hannity" starts right now. welcome to "hannity." there is a mutiny growing in the
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democratic party against president obama and the entire staff. we have the proof. president clinton, the man that president obama turned to, claiming that the president's promise, if you like your plan and doctor you can keep your plan and doctor. watch this. >> so i personally believe even if it takes a change in the law, the president should honor his commitment to federal government and let those people keep what they got. >> now, you know when things are really bad, when bill clinton, one of the most prominent voices, if not the most prominent voice in the democratic party calls on the president to man up and keep his word. don't forget this, the president said this about his buddy bill, after his democratic speech. >> president clinton made the case in the way only he can. you know, somebody -- somebody e-mailed me after his speech and said you need to appoint him
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secretary of explaining stuff. that is pretty good. i like that. secretary of explaining stuff. >> ouch. now, president obama may need to tweak that comment now or maybe add an "if" to that statement, too. but clinton is not the only liberal pulling back from the annointed one. >> i think the president was grossly misleading to the american public. i knew right away as a veterinarian, i had my own business, that my policies got cancelled even before the affordable care act. i know that i would change policies trying to find the best deal for myself and employees. but a lot of people in oregon have stayed with the same policy for a number of years and are shocked that their policy got cancelled. >> grossly misleading, or maybe lied. joining me now, congressman tom
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cotton and senator ron johnson, guys, welcome back to the program. >> hello, sean, great to be on. >> all right, senator, before we get to the "if you like your plan you can keep your plan" which you proposed in the senate. now the house has their version. i think i studied the clintons pretty well. bill clinton doesn't do anything without thinking it through. james carville talking about the president toking on a crack pipe. seems to me the president designed the remarks to kind of get a wink and nod to democrats, get out of this. how do you interpret it? >> well, that may be. let's face it, you will see how bipartisan i am. i totally agree with president clinton when he says that president obama ought to honor that promise. and let's face it, sean, what president obama did is he basically perpetrated a massive political fraud on the private sector. if that occurred in the private
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sector, that would be subject to criminal charges. so i really do believe that former president clinton is absolutely right. president obama ought to honor that promise and start to work with people and congressman cotton and myself to try to fix the damage. >> what do you think, congressman? >> i have to agree with senator johnson, and with president clinton that the democratic party should step forward to fix the mess they made. and president obama should keep his promise. he clearly knew going back to the summer of 2010, that millions of americans, tens of thousands in oregon were going to lose their policyingies. i'm starting to hear that small businesses are losing their policies, seeing their co-pays triple, or go up. we need to take action in the senate and house to make this right. >> you're talking about the 2010 numbers, july 2010, when they were having an internal debate inside the white house whether or not to tell the american people, to tell everybody watching the truth about the numbers and those that would
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lose their health care plans. of those estimates we have had analysts on this program say that number will be as high as 100 million. as you look at their own estimates, what do you conclude? >> well, sean, first of all, it is absolutely correct that 47% of individuals will lose their individual policies. but listen, i bought health care in my business for 31 years. the incentives in obama care are all for employers to drop the coverage, not pay $15,000 for the family plan but pay the $2,000 penalty and make the employees eligible for the subsidies. that would be a design of president obama to put as many american news the government-run exchanges in the first step to move toward a single-paying system. >> well, congressman, because the estimates, their own estimates in july of 2010 was 70% of individuals would lose their plans, 65% of small business owners, they would funnel into the system, and 45%
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of even big business. now we see the enrollment rate is what? 90% lower than they expected. don't these low enrollment figures undermine the law's financial stability. isn't it predicated on huge numbers of people signing up? does this now render the law unsustainable right now? >> i'm afraid it might, the president needs 7 million, by march, and they have fewer than 50,000 in the first days of the law. this could lead to a death spiral, not just for individuals but also for the federal treasury as the costs go up and up and up as people in the exchanges have higher health care costs. this is just another flawed premise of obama care and why the law was not going to work from the beginning. the cancellations, the prices, they're not an unintended consequence of obama care, they're very much the intended
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consequence. >> all right, in the house and senate, they have got "if you like your plan you can keep your plan act." politic politically, i want to ask you the question, we may be at the point. the republicans maybe should just say let's cut this, scrap this, before everybody loses their plans, let them go back and at least keep the plans they have, considering this probably wouldn't work. will republicans unite on that? >> well, i hope so i have 240 senators, co-sponsors -- >> any democrats? >> not yet, but mary landrieu has her own version, which is not quite up to prime time. but one thing people have to realize, obama has done structural damage to the health care plans. for example, a couple in wisconsin losing their coverage, seeing their premiums double in the exchanges, there is not much we can do about that. but we can try to limit the
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damage for millions of other americans. that is why the senators need to step up the plate and honor the promises for as many americans as possible. >> i think considering mary landrieu and all the red state senate democrats made the same pledge that obama made, they need to be tested on whether or not people should be able to keep their plan, considering that is what they promised. last question, congressman. the democrats i suspect may push for delay. i'm not sure if that is a good strategy for the republicans to allow this to happen. but that sounds like a political strategy to get past the 2014 elections. would at that point -- at that point would republicans say no, we don't believe in delay? >> sean, both senator johnson and i, as well as most republicans in both the house and senate have voted for delay in the law either in whole or in part in the past, for the reason that senator johnson just said obama care is doing massive damage to our health care system right now. we have to take whatever action is available to ensure the damage stops that the american people get some degree of protection from it.
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we would love to repeal it. that would be hard to do while the president is still named obama, and if we can ensure that we get health care plans that are legal today grandfathered we can provide as much protection to the american people as possible. >> all right, guys, good to see you both. appreciate it. the promise, if you like your plan you can keep it. this will be a fun vote later on this week. and coming up. downright embarrassing numbers, how the administration is cooking the books to save face. we'll examine this. and later, he is known for being one of the toughest coaches in the history of football. the legend, mike ditka, to weigh in on the university of miami controversy, weighing in. >> it says somebody about if you smoke or something like that. i don't really smoke. i may -- >> disturbing undercover video of so-called obama care
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. welcome back to "hannity." now this administration is left with egg on its face after a downright embarrassing report that shows that 50,000 people, actually less, signed up for obama care. that is a far cry from the goal set by the administration for december the 15th. here is what is even worse. as "the washington post" points out. we have to pay close attention to what actually happens, it
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goes on to quote, it only counts subscribers enrolled in a health plan once they have submitted a payment. that is when the carrier sends out a member card and sends the bills. when they release the enrollment figures later this week, it will use a more expansive program that includes the people who have a plan sitting on their on-line shopping cart but have not yet paid. this is only washington fuzzy math. and joining us now, why are you laughing? juan williams, and dana perino, you are going to defend it. you defend lying -- >> i would never defend lying. but i must say i think this is piling on. i mean, if you guys are sincere, you would say you know what? let's try to fix it. let's not try to undermine it and sabotage it. >> i'm with bill clinton, if you like your plan you should be able to keep it. >> well, that is what the president says, i'm for that. not what people said, let's
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delay it, under mine it -- the underpinning of the entire issue. >> 100 million americans, we have had analysts and professionals on this program that have analyzed every number and looked at the government's own figures. it will north of 100 million americans that lose their plan, if, dana they allow people to keep the plan they want the whole system crumbles because it becomes unsustainable. >> it is a house of cards. on this specific issue, juan, you can't possibly be for the expansive definition of an enrollee if they put something in their shopping cart. that is a specific thing, the whole law is based only coercion. they know what the president says is not going to be true. he repeats it. he says it yet again and makes it even worse. now they're trying to pretend that an enrollee is not an enrollee, that is when they were
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trying to save all the jobs but you couldn't get a count. the media is not going to allow them a pass on this one. >> but dana, you said coercion? >> no, the coercion is, if you like your health care plan, you can keep it, go ahead and support the bill. and then it turns out not to be true. >> i think what is confusing this is look, there are things that need to be fixed, and if that is what people understood they could keep the plan, even though it is an inferior plan. >> but if the whole thing falls apart. >> if they can't pay for it -- >> if people are allowed to keep the plan that they had before. so all the responsible people don't have to change the plans administration said would be the costs, the costs then obviously have to go up. >> let me read from cbs news, it says low enrollment figures even
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in the early stages could undermine the law's financial stability because if there are not enough consumers signing up there won't be enough premiums to pay for the ones not insured. like a ponzi scheme. >> but let me just say, the computer website has been a failure, that would be one reason that so few people are there. i think it also undermined trust. the larger point, when you look at the model and romney care in massachusetts, they had the rollout situation as well -- >> i'm having a very hard time with you guys on the left. because you are an honest guy. the president's promise, fundamental, if you like the plan you can keep it. 100 million americans are going the lose it. as a result of losing their plans, they lose their doctors, every american, $2500 saving, and you still defend it. >> let me just tell you, people who are having plans cancelled because they were inferior plans, in some cases it will get
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inferior plans. >> it is none of your business if it was inferior. >> young people, juan, who are you to decide? all right dana. >> the plans, so many people had no insurance, this is the opportunity to give more americans more insurance. >> in addition to the coercion and the lies, on top of that you also have dis-information and misinformation. the person in charge of fixing the website site, today it was reported he was not told about all the different security concerns about personal information. that is the other thing that is actually holding people back from going on and becoming an enrollee. >> by the way, they actually said in the report the security threats were limitless, it is pretty scary. >> and he didn't know anything about it. nobody knows anything about anything. >> no, they don't. we need to get out of this now and cut our losses. >> yeah, that is what you're after -- you don't believe that -- >> save america. >> and help americans and lower
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. welcome back to hannity, so if there were not enough
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problems about president obama's health care law, there is undercover video where they are actually urging people to lie about their applications. that is right, the conservative group followed the camera footage of the so-called obama navigators were on duty at a national urban league site in texas. >> they had -- i don't know where it said. it said something about if you smoke or something like that. i really don't smoke, i may -- the other stuff i do -- i'll go and clean houses and things like that, just to get extra money on the side. but i never filed that type of stuff on my -- on my you know -- filed my taxes. >> you're supposed to file a percentage of it. >> a percentage? >> uh-huh, yeah, if you're making money on a cash basis. >> okay. >> don't get yourself in trouble
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by tularing it now. >> exactly. >> yeah, it didn't happen. >> yeah, okay. >> pretty unbelievable, here is reaction from concerned feds. pet hegseth is back with us, and ellen we learned in the process with the navigators, there is no background check. is that a wise thing to do? >> i think there is a background check, they can't police every one of them. as a democrat, no question, stipulate -- >> we were told there was no criminal background check and the people hired as the navigators, senator cornyn -- >> i don't know if there was a criminal background check -- >> okay, don't you think that a criminal background check when you're giving out information that could be used in identity theft, don't you think that would be a pretty smart thing to do in this? >> yeah, i guess so
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stipulatelatstipulate lastipulateed, these folks doing the right thing -- >> is that sort of like nancy pelosi, you got to pass a law to find out what is in it, doesn't that sound like every other screw up, to this point? >> no, it is we fire these people and help out the people on wall street, from under-reporting -- >> aren't you embarrassed you support this plan? we spend three years and hundreds of millions of dollars, and you have three techies who are in college and did a better site -- >> sean, we're all embarrassed. we love the plan, because you know what, history lesson, this was the republican plan in the early '90s. >> not one republican voted for this. >> in the '90s during the clinton administration, this was the let's fix the private insurance system and make it work instead of making it a government system.
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>> all right, so the president says if you like your plan you can keep your plan. is that true or not true? >> it is true for 90% of americans. >> he didn't say for 5%, and by the way your number is wrong. can every american that likes their plan keep their plan? that is what the president promised, isn't it? >> the ones they have, through the individual, the broken marketplace -- >> the president said if you like your plan you can keep your plan, period, did he tell the truth? >> he told the truth for the 95%. >> he lied to the other 5%. >> he probably misspoke. >> he probably misspoke 30 times. >> 30 times? >> peter -- >> sean, what do you expect when you out-source implementation to frankly left wing organizations, community organizers that were given $67 million and 50,000 employees to implement obama care and these are groups working with battle ground texas, and working with acorn,
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and obama people to -- >> that is not wrong. >> this is -- >> how can you say -- >> many affiliates of acorn still out there, and james o 'keefe is going to discredit them. >> he is somebody that even glenn beck discredited. he is -- >> are you saying the videotape is lying? >> i don't know, he has a huge history. >> you're talking about 5%. we know in the government register they knew in july of 2010 that 65% of small businesses would be funneled go the government system. the majority of individual accounts would be funneled into the government system. and 45% of big business. so you say 5%. >> what do you talk about -- >> let me finish, sean. >> we have had analysts and experts on this show saying it is closer to 100 million americans.
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we know it is millions and will be tens of millions of americans that lose their plan. why do you defend what was the key promise here by the president that if you like it, you can keep it? >> because four out of five americans had health insurance that would meet the threshold of health care, and would be bankrupt if they tried to use it. >> what do you say if the president told them something that was not true? >> well, you know, there was the poster woman a couple of weeks ago when the story was first reported, came out and said i got the letter. i'm going to lose my plan. and when she found out the better plan she could get with the subsidy, she could afford it. she had a better plan. >> you have a government that knows how to raise our kids and how to pick our health care plan. >> it is private insurance, sean. >> but you can't keep your plan. >> that is exactly right, it is the technocrats that decide the plan i must have. i don't get to choose my plan is
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good enough, so i get to keep it. the president said you need to keep the plan, period, when he said that he knew people were going to be kicked off the plans they liked and they wanted and purchase something else. that is a lie, and they need to call it what it is. >> i am sure you love president clinton. >> i do. >> he said the president ought to keep his promise, do you agree with the president -- >> you are all for the president breaking his word? >> and what senator johnson's bill would do is basically force people to stay in really bad plans that would bankrupt them if they ever got sick. >> why do you think they would choose to stay there? would do you think the arrogance of the people on the left that you think you know better. if people want their plan, who are you to tell them that they ought to go to a better plan that costs them more money. who are you? why do you get to decide that or the government get to decide
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. and welcome back to "hannity." so president obama's reckless economic agenda is failing the americans, especially in the african-american communities. and tonight we have the numbers to prove it. according to the bureau of
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statistics, the an all-time low, 67%, the number of black americans increased at 13%, which is not only a 4% increase from when president obama took office in january of 2009, but also six points above the national unemployment rate for all groups, which now stands at 7% for all groups. here to debate what the numbers mean for the president. conservative editor, and richard fowler. you look at the numbers, we always break things down demographically, and you see that african-americans voted for president obama not once, but twice, is black america better off with president obama as a president? >> thank you for having me, i think it is an important conversation to have.
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i don't think it can be blamed on the president. >> i asked you a question, i asked if black americans are better off. he has been in office five years, have his policies been good for black america? >> i would argue that the president's policies have been good for black america. not only are they helping the health care, but beyond the fact they can get health care, you can't just look at the numbers in a vacuum, you have to look at a broader view. we have more in the education system, the president is committed to that. there is more work to go done. it is not a one-day fix, sean. >> by the way, in fairness, it is also women and other groups that voted for him heavily. and crystal, those numbers are equally as bad. >> you know, sean, it is stunning to me when i listen to richard who is a black man, and he dances around the issue that black americans are worse off under the first black president of the united states of america. and what is even worse, as you point out, sean, is black
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americans not only gave him overwhelmingly over 90% of the vote the first time around. the second time around, too. and the congressional black caucus, which wants to weigh in on everything under the sun from illegal immigration to "stand your ground" and trayvon martin. you know what they said, sean, emanual cleaver said in 2011 when he was chair of the cbc, that if hillary clinton had been in the white house with these unemployment numbers for black americans, consistent double digits, he said congressional black caucus would be storming and marching the white house, so under obama, they get a free pass. president obama has the lowest participation rate of any president since jimmy carter. and we need to start judging him on his character, not the color of his skin. >> now, wait a second, crystal. a couple of points, if you asked
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the current chair, martha fudge, she would tell you there are increasing bills on participation, by making investments in america's economy, every single time. >> more spending, richard. >> i beg to differ. you can't call this spending -- >> wait a minute, i just want to address. >> it is about investments. >> the eisenhower bills, the interstate system, it is an investment. and that is what we're asking for. unfortunately -- >> let's stop for a second on this investment. he has had five years. he promised a stimulus, to sign a stimulus, health care. we have record $17 trillion in debt, 90 trillion in unfunded liabilities. an economy that is stalled. nobody is working and nobody can even look for a job and you're making excuses. why do you make excuses for a plan in five years that has not delivered? >> no one is making excuses. >> yes, you are. >> if he was white. if barack obama was white.
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richard, richard -- >> it requires we get to work and try to fix this. >> richard, i want to say something you said about marcia fudge. she is a fraud like this president. you know what she said after black americans helped to reelect the president the second time, right after that, marcia fudge said now we can get down to work and hold the president accountable. she is not holding him accountable. the congressional black caucus was founded right before nixon became president. and you know what? they held him accountable. they boycotted his state of the union because they didn't like the fact -- >> i won't let you get away with that. >> you wouldn't, right, the cbc is a joke. >> and the country is not better off. >> the participation rate, it will not get through john boehner's congress. >> why don't we just blame bush. blame bush. he is out of office five years. all right, we got to go, coming
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and welcome back to "hannity." the one and only tough guy, alec baldwin, appearing in court to face his alleged stalker, genevieve sabourini, he broke
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down on the witness stand. baldwin was heard telling reporter reporters he choked -- he hoped they would choke. so was it real? what was going on in his mind. the defense attorney for genevieve was with us. todd spodak is with us. and ainsley earhardt was there. >> i was there throughout the entire trial. >> i hear from other people there that he thought he was acting. >> well, he is a professional actor and put on a show and wanted to put the relationship in a certain light. ultimately he was discredited. it was apparent they had a relationship. more than just a professional relationship, there are e-mais s that go to personal issues. >> how personal? >> well, certainly only friends
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or people that know each other quite well would share with each other. he was sharing his schedule, where he would be, giving her advice about other lovers in her life. >> isn't that nice of alec to offer such nice advice. terry, you have had a run-in with alec, i've had my share of run-ins with alec. he is nuts, screaming at his daughter, screaming at me. you follow this guy. you report on him. what do you know about him? >> right, he is just an unhinged rage-aholic. you can't get in his way. he has more energy than anyone. he will throw the question. i was polite to him. i asked him about a simple question, a lawsuit filed against his wife. and within seconds he grabbed me and said he wanted me to choke to death. i was alarmed, i backed away. i am not used to being attacked on the job. >> it said he grabbed the
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reporter, saying i want you to choke to death. he actually said the same words today to reporters. >> sean, both sides, these two might actually need to date and go together. because you know, there is that stereotype that women are so crazy, you always heard that when you dated. men said women are crazy, this is not helping our case. this girl, not only is she showing up at his new york city apartment, sitting front row at a movie screening. hundreds of voice mails and e-mails, this has been going on for years, showed up the day he got engaged. yet, he is taking the stand, crying one minute, threatening to choke a reporter the next minute. trying to play the victim card. my question is why did he let this go this far? he is not the first celebrity to have a stalker. why didn't he -- couldn't a big fat check take care of this? why did he let it go so far? >> would a check have solved the problem? >> absolutely not. he took the stand today and said he wanted her to stop contacting
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him. and he e-mailed her, the proof is there from 2011, from the beginning, all the way to january 2012. >> 2012, he got married in 2012, had the baby this past august. you represent her, but don't you think that there is a point when a woman knows, he doesn't like me anymore, so i'm not going to continue to pursue. i'm not going to show up at his house. >> by the way, i was an expert when i dated. when a girl doesn't like me anymore. >> it hurts my heart when girls act like this. >> i can understand where you're coming from. they had a relationship. she expressed her interest, if he didn't want to, he knows how to say leave me alone. >> he did, he had her arrested. >> he did, but a year went by. >> this is taxpayer dollars, we're spending half a million dollars so far in court on this. it is just ridiculous. >> well, that is a question for the district attorney's office. ultimately they could have dismissed the charges and worked out a resolution that all
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parties would have agreed to. but the resolution they offered -- >> i have experienced this guy's rage firsthand, we had a twitter fight one time and his daughter sees this, asked me, she didn't ask her father to stop. i said okay, the kid's father is you know, the girl is going to ask me to stop. i stopped. he still keeps going. he still attackings me. i said why don't you ask your own dad to stop for once because he fights with everybody. you experienced his rage firsthand, are you afraid of him? >> he thinks that he is god, he is immune to everything. and everybody around him, we're not people. you have to have a certain sensitivity when you deal with alec baldwin, especially as a reporter, he has something against the press. >> how do you explain the plane going back, because of the electronics? >> he thinks he is god. >> well, that would do it,
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right. what do you think, ainsley? >> i don't know, i don't want to pass judgment. >> i do. >> listen, you can't walk out on the street without everybody recognizing you. but i'm sure it is famous, with the paparazzi all around >> i followed paparazzi. >> i argue paparazzi is not always following alec baldwin around. are rare occasions are photographers around him.. >> i experienced to a smaller degree. if you shake their hand, say hi, they leave you alone. >> there is a way to be respectful. people are doing their jobs. >> whether they like it or not if you're in the public eye it goes with the territory. >> your famous partly because of the reports. >> if you're getting xhol one deals if he wasn't in the press >> alec needs to grow up.
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involving richard incognito. here with us is mike ditka. sir, how are you? good to see you. >> sean, how are you? >> i'm good. i read your comments you said you won't want any of these guys in your locker room. why? >> well, listen. you know, i don't think anyone knows what happened do i think this was malicious intent? no. these guys your brain has to go into gear before your mouth operates sometimes, guys don't think before they do something. i don't think there was anything racial meant by it or anything else i don't care what was said or how. i think the guys were friends and they probably do this quite a bit. i've been around the game of football a long time. i've never seen anything like this in a locker room. when i was a head coach maybe i didn't notice things
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going on. but it bothers me when you say joe philbin is to blame for this, because he's not. you're operating a football team, running an organization. you've got a lot of people to worry about every day. that is the last thing you'd think would happen in the locker room. i don't know anything could have been done on his part. it's a shame. to me, it's a tragedy in a sense that these 2004 young men worked their whole lives to play the game of football. it's a privilege to be able to play. any player who doesn't think that shouldn't able to play the game. you respect the game. it will respect you. if you respect your opponent, they will respect you. you respect your teammates, they will respect you. when you lose the word respect you've got problems i think somewhere along the line, they kind of got out of hand. >> i agree. but there are 1100 texts and martin is texting
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incognito z saying that he's going to kill his family. it seems that that is the way they will relate to each other. >> most people would they be shocked at what you hear in the locker room? i assume they would? >> i don't think most of the things going in the locker room won't be shocked i don't think they're out of line this, wasn't around the locker room this, is texting this, is where people can communicate when nobody else knows about it via text. you know? i don't know what they're doing. whether razzing each other or -- i don't know. no one will know unless jonathan martin talks. >> why won't you want either one on your team? >> well, i think this way. ritchie inning to neato is a tough guy. could he play for me?
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yeah. jonathan martin is supposed to be a good football player. in that sense, yeah. they can play for me. but this should have never got out of the locker room. it comes down to a point where i threaten you, you don't challenge me, you've got a problem. i believe. that i'm not saying that i just believe. that i don't know i play the game from rookie year on, you earn respect. once you get it, nobody messes with you. i don't care 15, 20 years or what. if someone did, i'd have to challenge them. >> i agree with you. i don't understand the reaction. coach, one of the greatest coaches of all time, best commentators thank you for being with us tonight. >> sean, i'm a big fan, thank you. >> thank you, my friend. thank you for being with us start each weekday morning at
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5:00 to 9:00 with ainsley and the crew of fox and friends tomorrow morning. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. little things looking tough at the white house tonight. bill clinton does not seem impressed with president obama. >> if you like your health care plan, you keep your plan. >> you keep your health care plan. keep, keep, keep. >> you can keep your plan. >> the president should honor his commitment made to those people and let them keep what they've got. >> i'm inclined to agree with bill clinton. >> the president apologized. he said clearly he was sorry that he misled people. >> we are better off with this law than without. >> it i think the president was grossly mislead to the american public. >> he knew what was going on. he knew people were going to have their policies canceled. >> i said it because i believed it. now i know i should have added


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