go to your dvr, put "the five" in, type it in. don't miss an episode of "the five." we're with you every singing night. "special report" on deck. >> i'm brett beahr and this is special report. we begin with breaking news. a fox news exclusive. new evidence of just how seriously the obama administration was taking the possibility of failure and embarrassment ahead of the disastrous health care rollout. ed henry has been chasing this down all afternoon and has obtained new documents. >> good evening. confidential documents obtained by fox suggest people inside the administration just one week before the website launched had fears it may fail. more fears than they may have let on publicly. top aides to president obama were nervous healthcare.gov would be, quote, unavailable and become an embarrassment.

a private e-mail sent on the 25th to government colleagues and the website's contractors was aobtained by darrell issa. it references a meeting the previous day that included the president's chief technology administrator. he wrote, when they were here yesterday, one of the things todd conveyed was this fear the white house has about hc.gov being unavailable. chow warned park would be back for more answers on september 30th and wrote, i think we should have a more comprehensive answer as to how we will insure high availability on the site, while e-mails show alt least one top white house aide knew of a problem, obama suggested they were a surprise. >> we wouldn't have rolled out something knowing it wasn't going to walk the way it was supposed to. >> chow also suggested officials design a more palatable way to tell the public the site wasn't working, attaching this image

that says the system is down and telling colleagues, quote, i'm picturing in my mind all the major print and online publications taking screen shots of what is below and ramping up the hyperbole of hc.gov not being effective. kathleen sebelius at a photo-op yesterday in miami. >> i think it's great. it's been a long time coming. >> it was temporarily down? >> it's okay. it will come back. it happens every day. >> today, the president awarded the medal of freedom to former president bill clinton, who recently urged mr. obama to fulfill his promise of letting people keep their health plan if they like it. >> i'm grateful, bill, as well, for the advice and koubl you've au offered me on and off the golf course. >> the president' poll numbers continue to be not so funny.

the latest today from cbs news shows approval of the health care law has sunk to 31%. a drop of 12 points in one month. as for what should happen to the law, 43% say repeal it, while 48% say the law at least needs changes. the president, low, continues to resist legislative fixes meeting with insurance commissioners to try to convince him the approve his less far reaching move to allow people to keep their plan for a year. jason firmen defending the law by releasing a report showing it slowed the spending since 2010. as republicans fire back at the preside president's claim at the gop is partly to blame. >> it's nobody's fault on the republican side that millions of people are in fear of losing their existing coverage. >> now, on the question of whether there was any fear, as mentioned in the e-mail, a top white house official told me even before the site was rolled out, they warned there might be

glitches just as there are in any rollout. in this case, what they were referring to is the possibility of high traffic on healthcare.gov. that proves to be true, this official notes to me. that's a sign to them that there's high demand for the product. they still want to get it fixed and still think it's going to be turned around. >> the question is, if they knew there were numbers that were going to be big in the first week and the website wasn't working, why did they roll out? >> from the e-mail, it only suggests one person, todd park, suggested there was this fear inside the white house. we don't know if others shared that fear. we also don't know if henry chow at the cms agency, was exaggerating that quote/unquote todd park had. if you listen to the president's comments, he suggested the big problem was a surprise to them, and number two, he would not have gone forward if he knew it. the e-mail raises more questions about it.

>> ed henry, thank you. the numbers are staggering. new details tonight on just how many of you could lose your health care coverage because of obama care. here's chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel. >> the next wave of obama care)? regulations will likely be small businesses. two thirds of small businesses will have their policies canceled, likely forcing their employees on obama care exchanges. theyed they're already dealing with obama care headaches. >> i was shocked when our health insurance went up 49% this year. the plan i purchased includes benefits i don't really need nor do my employees want. >> another said because his policy only offered generic drugs, it doesn't reach the standard and it will be discontinued. >> our premiums are expected to increase by 52.3%. clearly absorbing this expense

in order to provide the same benefit to my employees is entirely unrealistic. >> a republican senator blasted the obama administration for political deception. >> we were told the health care law would decrease costs, but all the added costs, the added coverag coverages, the added mandates have increased costs, correct? >> health care officials in washington offer suggests. >> there are 257 products for small businesses. something for everyone. if you want a zero deductible plan, it's there. if you want a high deductible health care plan, it's there, and everything in between at all price points. >> a new jersey democrat said his focus is helping small businesses compete with big business. >> i care about solving problems. the polls may not like politicians, but most people are saying right now, fix it. >> the american enterprise institute estimates up to 100 million business policies may be cancelled neck year, but the true impact will likely be on

the little guy. >> i think it will be a surprise, especially for smaller, younger, entrepreneurial firms who have healthy employees because they'll be faced with higher premiums on the new small business exchanges. >> louisiana republican congressman bill cassidy has put up a bill to allow health insurance on the market to still be offered. >> live on the hill, mike, thank you. young people, college students, may pay an especially high pryice for their support o president obama. peter reports tonight from buoy state university in maryland where obama care may mean no health care at all. >> dejaun is a 25-year-old student at buoy state university and was provided by a university provided insurance policy for about $100 a year, but that plan didn't meet the standard set by

the affordable care act, and since its replacement would have cost nearly $1,800 a year, the school canceled it. >> it makes me feel angry and frustrated, really. >> bowie state says students should join their parents' plans or go through the state exchange or medicaid. if the price of his insurance increases, he won't be able to pay all his bills. >> i'm not here of privilege or anything like that, so i have to pick and choose what i'll pay for and what's a priority and what's not a priority. >> one student blogged, quote, this one sure way to make sure those invincible millennials are on the exchange to make sure the cost of the aca is balanced out. >> they're caught in a trap. they're stuck figuring out how they're going to find coverage, be covered, or deal with a sickness. >> not everyone who lost the

iversity-provided plan is worried. jamad gould plans to enter the exchange. >> i think the university made the right decision. >> the university said they polled the student last spring and they favored ditching the plan. adding, quote, conscious of their choices students realized that provisions of the new health care law enable many of them to avoid any additional cost, but that's little comfort for dejuan patterson. >> i'm thinking about, please don't get sick or anything like that because i might not have coverage. >> only about 7% of college students in this country buy plans like the one bowie state just canceled. most are on their parents' policies, including many students here at bowie state where administrators say officials from the maryland state exchange and medicaid will soon visit to help affected

students sign up. >> peter, thank you. so do you have a question about obama care for the all-star panel tonight? tweet me. you can use the hash tag, tweet the panel, and your question could be asked a bit later. >> stocks were down today for the second straight day. the dow drops 66. the s&p 500 lost 6.5. the nasdaq fell went. up next, the political scandal that is too good or too bad to be true, but here's what some of our fox affiliates are covering tonight. fox 11 in los angeles with operation supernava. a year long drug trafficking operation that has led to the arrest of suspected members of the mexican mob. >> charlotte, north carolina, with news billy graham is back in the hospital. the 95-year-old evangelist has a respiratory congestion issue. he has been hospitalized in the past for similar health

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did the obama administration purposely falsify unemployment numbers before last fall's election? a newspaper story says yes. but one of the people quoted in it now says no.

correspondent doug mckelway is here with both sides. >> the story reported by new york post columnist on monday claimed in the fall of 2012 just as the presidential race was tightening up in the homestretch, census workers falsified data to help the unemployment numbers drop. >> a few census workers could have caused the rate to go down from 8.1% to 7.8% as reported rather than going up. >> they did it, two sources told them, by fabricated household interviews upon which that data is based. the white house yesterday dismissed the piece. >> that story is obviously misleading. i think a lot of people shed a lot of credibility engaging in conspiracy theories last fall about, you know, rigged jobs numbers. >> but republicans in the house are taking thesis allegations in the post very seriously. >> and census bureau data in particular is used all over wall

street, all over the government. it's absolutely critical that that information be accurate and its accuracy be impeccable. >> we're investigate it, get to the bottom of it. if it goes like so many other investigations, jay carney will at the end of the day be wrong. >> on tuesday, issa and pharynhold wrote the director demanding all e-mails related to the survey and e-mails to or from julius buckman, the source quoted in the post piece. late today, fox spoke to julius buckman who is now retired. he said the post piece was inaccurate. he said he asked the post not to quote him but was quoted anyway. they told fox news they're 100% sure that issue of quoting never came up. the allegations have been referred to the inspector general. they said, and i'm quoting, we are aware of the media reports and our office is evaluating what action may be warranted. and late today, fox received

internal documents from 2010 in which buckman complains a supervisor tells him to turn in cases as completed interviews which in fact he had not done the interviews. >> thank you. fbi agents say several dozen suspected terrorists, some who have attacked troops, may have been allowed into this country as war refugees. they have been trying to work to track them down using evidence from roadside bombs in iraq and afghanistan and new fingerprinting lab will follow this story. >> talks on iran's nuclear program resumed today in geneva. he did say the main goal of the talks should be the stabilization of his country's nuclear runs. iran is trying to get the west to ease crippling economic sanctions. alarming new information tonight about the terror attack on the u.s. diplomatic outpost in benghazi, libya, last year.

catherine herridge had chilling details of the cries for help from the americans inside. >> as terrorists converged on the benghazi compound, state department agents knew it was a death trap and made a series of destressed phone calls. according to congressional sources familiar with recent testimony from five cia personnel. sources told fox news that the radio call described in testimony before the house intelligence committee was characterized as almost frantic with state department personnel pleading for help to save their lives. the congressman leading the investigation said they found one state department agent hiding in the consulate, apparently in a closet and they were -- >> not armed, not kitted up. and they hadn't been any shots fired from our side as far as the testimony reveals. >> the cia witnesses also testified that early on september 12th, seven hours

after the consulate was sacked and burned, five mortars burned down a mile away in less than a minute with three directs hits. the new testimony re-enforced the view that the terrorist mortar team was professionally trained. the attack was premeditated and the administration's initial statements about a protest over a video were unsupportable. >> it's indefensible what was said on september 11th, 12th, and 13th and what the facts were. >> asked what they thought of the video explanation of an attack that left four dead. sources tell fox news that some cia witnesses said they were overcome by anger. >> stay on the story, thank you. secretary of state john kerry says he has reached a deal with afghanistan's president to keep american troops in that country after the end of next year. kerry says the role of u.s. forces will be limited to training, equipping, and assisting afghans. the agreement must be approved by a counsel of afghan elders. yesterday, there was a report

president obama had agreed to apologize for mistakes during the war. today, secretary kerry shot that down. >> let me be clear. president karzai didn't ask for an apology. there was no discussion of an apology. there is no -- i mean, it's just not even on the table. he didn't ask for it. we're not discussing it. >> still ahead, why women are jumping off the obama bandwagon. first, controlling the damage and taking advantage of obama care. [ male announcer ] this is the age of knowing what you're made o

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industry once knfrbed that great opportunities are often brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems. for republican governors, obama

care may be a perfect example. chief political correspondent carl cameron has that story from arizona. >> poised to control 29 of the nation's governorships, they gathered in phoenix to talk strategy for 2014 and 2016 and ways to minimize the damage from obama care. bobby jintdal is the outgoing rga chairman. >> we're going to allow people to purchase voluntary purchasing pools. we're not going to hurt people for trying to get tax advantage spending. >> of the 27 states that have refused to set up state insurance exchanges under obama care, 25 have gop governors including new jersey where chris christie is the incoming chairman of the rta. he's been criticized by rand paul as not conservative enough for allowing the medicare expansion in the garden state. christie laid into republicans in washington for the government shutdown. >> you can refuse to run a state

based exchange because you know the prosis a train wreck, as i have done in new jersey, but not then subscribe to the notion that your job then in running the government is to close it. your job is to run it. >> polls show republican governors are far more popular than their gop colleagues in washington. by contrast, christie's approval rating is in the 60%. rick scott is at the low end for republican governors, but far more popular than those in congress. michigan and iowa are the own latwo to establish partnerships with the feds. states should be allowed to design their own programs. >> we think this is the approach that's really going to improve health for all of our citizens rather than this one size fits all government approach which obviously is not working and is too complex and unaffordable, and consequently, i think it's going to collapse. >> rick perry, one of the first to reject obama care for his

state three years ago, made the governors have issues with what's going on in the nation's capitol. >> i believe a blue-state governor has got to feel that they can put health care plans in their state together better than some bureaucrat in washington, d.c. >> the republican governors are playing an outsiding card against both parties in washingtonering but especially against republicans. the go pis divided on a whole variety of issues. when it comes to obama care, they remain united and in lock step opposition. >> carl cameron live in scottsdale, thank you. >> republican florida congressman tray radel pleaded guilty today to misdemeanor cocaine possession. he was sentenced to a year's probation. he admitted buying 3 1/2 grams of cocaine from an undercover agent here in washington, d.c. last month. radel said he's struggling with alcoholism and has expressed regret. >> a tribute today to former president john f. kennedy.

president obama and former president bill clinton placed a wreath at the kennedy grave in arlington national cemetery. friday marks the 50th anniversary of kennedy's assassination in dallas. paying alcoholics in beer. paying through the nose for government regulations. and the government worker behind a murder is not paying the price so far. the grapevine is next. stick with innovation. stick with power. stick with technology. get the flexcare platinum. new from philips sonicare. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that.

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now, some fresh pickings from the political grapevine. more proof for those who believe we're living in a regulation nation. even though last week had only four work days, nearly 1700 pages were added to the federal registry. the competitive enterprise institute said in the last two weeks, there have been 144 final regulations, which is the equivalent of a new rule every 2 1/2 hours. they're on pace for 136 regulations this year. total estimated compliance cost of this year's economically significant regulations is between $6 billion and $12 billion with a "b" dollars. the department of homeland security employee placed on administrative leave for administering the mass killing of white people has not been fired. he's still collecting paychecks nearly four months after that story broke.

he reportedly made $116,000 last year. put another way, you are still paying his six-figure salary to a man who wrote, quote, in order for black people to survive the 21st century, we're going to have to kill a lot of whites. more than our christian hearts can possibly count. dhs said he remains on leave pending review. >> amsterdam pays alcoholics in beer to clean the streets. true story. the badaily mail reports the rainbow foundation project organizes the day as follows. volunteers arrive at 9:00 a.m. and are giving two cans of beer with optional coffee. after lunch, two more beer. the work day wraps at 3:30, and they're sent home with another can. they're also giving about $13 and a half pouch of rolling tobacco. organizers say the ranarrangeme benefits everyone because the alcoholics are not in the park

bothering everyone and they drink less. one worker said after a busy day of work, he's too tired to drink. >> earlier in the program, we told you how obama care is hurting one of the president's core support groups. college students. in our next report, shannon green tells us how another segment of the president's base appears to be bailing. >> in the 21st century, a woman derves equal pay for equal work. >> they chose president obama by an 11-point margin over mitt romney in 2012, and until now, the president has been able to count on a majority of women to favor both him and his policies. but as his signature legislative achievement becomes a reality, the relationship appears to be cooling. >> women are looking at this and saying, hold on, you promised this. you said that you were going to give us affordable health care. and basically, it's not coming to fruition. >> the cbs news poll today shows a steep decline from just one month ago when 49% of women say

they approved of the president's performance as opposed to 46% who disapproved. fast forward a month and the president has plummeted 10 percentage points. only 39% of women say they now approve while 54% say they disapproval. according to the bureau of labor statistics, women make 80% of health care decisions for their families so it's likely the president's now broken promise about being able to hit your health care is hitting very close to home. >> polling data shows the majority of american women believe the president lied. and pew research tells us that the issue of integrity and honesty is the number one trait we women value in our leaders. >> author and radio talk show host tammy bruce who voted for the president as early as his 2008 primary showdown with hillary clinton in president had a piece in thursday's washington times entitled why women have had enough of obama. she said that includes women on the left. >> i think one of the big

revelations for women in america, particularly democratic and liberal women, is that in fact, barack obama did not understand them. and that barack obama was not working for them but was using them. >> the president has also taken heat for not having more women among his top advisers, but he is the first president ever to nominate a woman to head the federal reserve. janet yellen's nomnition is pending in the senate. >> thank you. voters in alba kirby, new mexico, have defeated a proposed ban on late-term abortions. it was believed to be the first of its kind for an american city. the vote was 55% against, 45% in favor. we have a virtual seat reserved for you in the panel segment. if you have not participated yet, take a moment, go to our home page, foxnews.com/specialreport. watch the instructions. you have a panel on the seat. you can provide and monitor realtime feed back of what the panelists are saying. you can also access the polls on your smartphone or tablet.

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i like to hear that. >> we all like to hear that. it's going a lot better. >> i think it's great that this is happening. it's been a long time coming. >> yeah. >> it's temporarily down. >> that's okay. it will come back. >> it happens every day. >> getting at all frustrating with the site temporarily down? >> actually, it is working so much more smoothly.

i think that there are often things that pop up, but people are getting through every single day. >> a picture of health and human services kathleen sebelius in florida, working with a navigator there as the website went down as they tried to enroll someone while those reporters were following her. this as we received and obtained new documents tonight. ed henry reporting that these private e-mails have surfaced. top aides to president obama were nervous about healthcare.gov right before the launch, september 25th. here's from one of the e-mails from mr. chow. he is the -- henry chow, cms official. when todd mark and marilyn were here, one of the things todd conveyed is the fear the white house has about hc.gov being unavailable. he has a good point and i think we should have a more comprehensive answer as to how we will have better available.

i'm picturing in my mind all the hajer print and online publications taking a screen shot of what is below and ramping up the hyperbole about hc.gov not functioning. he was right, and there were a lot of those pictures. let's bring in our panel, judge andrew napolitano, juan williams, and tucker carlson. tucker, more evidence that this was a concern just days before the october 1st launch. >> when are executive branch officials going to learn that their e-mails remain in the public domain forever? someone should really remind them of that before giving this stuff to their keerbs. this is not surprising. this is the most technologically advanced group of political cult nlts the world has ever seen. they won two presidential campaigns because of their mastery in part of tech. of course they knew. the question is why with that knowledge did they go forward with the rollout, elevating the

expectations to impossible levels and thereby sabotaging their own efforts. that's the political mystery. >> last thursday, juan, the president said we would not have rolled out something knowing very well it wouldn't work the way it was supposed to given the scrutiny we knew was going to be on the website. >> i don't think he knew is what he was indicated. ed henry said we didn't know how many people in the white house knew this. we know this conversation was taking place between the people involved in the technology and the lady over at cms. and that may be the extent of it. we don't know. but the fact is they were aware. the second thing to say is much of the conversation as we see in the exchange is in terms of a high demand for the service. and whether or not the high demand would be too much for the server. well, you know, as you can see, it's not even high demand, as we saw in the tape. it's people just trying to get through on a regular basis, have difficulty. >> here's mr. chow up on capitol

hill, judge, earlier this week answering questions about this. >> it was crashing for everybody. we have heard it wasn't designed for that many people, it didn't pass a stress test. it never had end-to-end testing. and you're saying it was 100% ready? i just want to make sure i understand. >> it was 100% built. >> just not working? >> yeah, working, functionally -- >> then it's not built. if a car is built but you can't run the car, that car is not built. if a website isn't working, it's not built. >> i'm certainly not going to sit here and try to tell you that it was working well. >> all right, judge. >> this is the problem, when government attempts to manage something that is constitutionally and institutionally incapable of managing. we learned in the past two weeks that lawyers for the justice department a year ago had said in briefs submitted to federal courts, people are going to lose their coverage once obama care becomes effective.

we learned a couple months ago that people in the west wing in their e-mails, as tucker pointed out, questioned whether or not the president's promises if you like your doctor, if you like your health insurance, were actually made three years ago. now we learned in the past two days that the technical people didn't think this was working. this is an unmitigated disaster for the president. for the democrats, for his administration, and it was based upon a reliance on the president's deception. deception that this wouldn't happen. deception that you could keep your doctor, deception that you could keep your health care. he was wrong then. he's wrong now. he should know it. >> couple of questions on bing here. have you or anyone you know had a policy cancel because of obama care? it's basically a split. 54% to 46% right here. and this one, shouldn't insures go along with president obama's one-year cancellation reprieve? 87% say no. tucker, i guess the question is, today he met with insurance --

the commissioners. and the state insurance commissioners, they make a big say about whether these states go along, and there were nine saying now that they're not going along. >> that's right. here's the bottom line. any solution needs to guarantee profits for insurance companies, period, or else obama care cannot work. therefore, the solution will guarantee profits for insurance companies. that will make obama care too expensive. someone has to relent. that will be doctors. you saw today, the columnists, i would say the white house, attacked america's doctors as coddled, overpaid, they're whining that obama care doesn't pay them enough. i predict this will be an attack you see leveled at all kinds of democrats. it's doctors who prevent this system from working and they need to have their compensation regulated and curtailed by government. this is the next frontier of their excuse making for why obaema care doesn't work. >> tweet the panel, linda in ft.

worth asked this from the panel, why is the obama administration still encouraging people to use an unsecured, easily hacked health care website? juan, i guess the testimony yesterday and the day before was that it's not secure as of yet. >> no, i don't understand the concern. i mean, there's no widespread evidence of anybody hacking in or divulging private information. i guess the chief concern, linda's concern is the potential for this -- >> there are people testifying yesterday it was easy to hack, very easy. if you go to google, you can pull up social security numbers. >> i havant heard that, but i'm saying people are worried about something in prospect, i think there's a lot of piling on at this point. if something happens like that, we'll know the story. >> this was done by private enterprise, there would be competition and a competitor would fail who produced a product the way obama care has been produced. but the government has no

competition. these bureaucrats we saw testifying don't care if they fail as long as they satisfy the president, they go home with their paycheck at night. >> you know the problems. what about some solutions? the panel gives us theirs next. hi honey, did you get e toaster cozy? yep. got all the cozies. [ grandma ] with n fedex one rate, i could ll a box and ship it r one flat rate. so i kn untilt was full. you'd be crazy not to. is tt nana? [ male announcer ] fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex. with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core™ technology, it stops pain before it gets worse. nothing works faster. new fast acting advil. look for it in the white box.

>> those who are opposed to it and can't offer a solution, we'll push back. >> we're about solutions. we're backl. what happens? what do you do? >> the first thing you do is acknowledge that all progress is

incremental. the comprehension solutions to anything never works. obama care was never going to work because of its size, scope. you fix health care piece meal. >> tort reform, obviously, and finally, the tax code ought to treat all health insurance plans equally. there's no justifiable reason for employer provided plans to be taxed at a different and lower rate from individual plans. it's not justified by any kind of rational argument. >> don't upend and system and the 80% who get their health care now from their companies it would affect directly? >> of course, it would. i mean, of course, it would, but the current system is unjustifiable. you can't have a system where

costs are completely hidden from consumers. people have no idea what health services cost. >> in the ideal, but in the political environment and what republicans are facing -- >> that's why you do it piece meal. anytime a politician looks into the camera and says i'm going to fix all your problems with a streak of a pen, this bill will save your life, he's lying. by the way, he had a totally inflated sense of his own power. do it bit by bit. >> stop talking. stop talking because you are damaging your reputation with your fellow conservatives. because what you just laid out is the most radical plan i ever heard. you're going to go after -- >> not yet. you haven't gotten to the judge.

>> they're going to out owe brahm pra care at some point. he says the political opposition is so large. what he has got to do is rebuild trust. we see this in the polls that indicate there has been tremendous drop in trust. president obama and confidence in this healthcare system. so he has got to do a big job of rebuilding that trust. >> okay. lay it on them, judge. >> juan, fasten your seat belt. the federal government should stay within the confines of the constitution. the constitution does not authorize the federal

government anything whatsoever to do with healthcare. obamacare should be abolished along with medicare, medicaid and social security. the people who were on those programs should be grandfathered in because they paid money to be in there and they have ordered their lives to stay there the states should regulate healthcare the states retain that power under the constitution. so, if you want. >> leave that graphic up there. >> if you want mandatory healthcare go live in massachusetts. if you want the free market and individual savings accounts, financial money savings accounts, go live in texas. as uncle ronni used to say you can vote with your feet. when the government attempts to do what only the free market can do. when the government says everybody has got to drive a mercedes whether you can can afford one or not, whether you want to drive one or not, very few people will have cars and everybody will be walking to work. >> you say you want to do away with social security, medicare, and medicaid? >> oob -- absolutely. it would be far better administered. >> you think you can do away

with social security and medicare in this country? >> i don't think it could be done with the stroke of a pen and i don't think there is a consensus for it. but, in my world, where the government lives within the confines of the constitution, people are responsible for themselves. it's not the beltway world where you live. people don't look to the federal government to take care of them. >> i think the voters would go crazy. the two of have you abandoned the whole notion of conservatism tonight. >> you have abandoned the notion that the constitution means what it says. >> okay. >> we have more of this in the online show. and it should be heated. that's it for the panel. stay tuned for some highlights of a former president's stop by one late night show. plus the sr bing pulse highlights. don't forget the online show tonight. farmer: hello, i'm an idaho potato farmer.

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>> here oare tonight's bing highlights. all parties men and women disagreed strongly when juan said we do not know how many people in the white house knew about the problems with obamacare on its site before the rollout.

juan got himself out of the dog house and bing when they agreed with him that the rollout is a total disaster for the president. all parties, women and men agreed with tucker when he said the doctors will end up paying for obamacare's failures, and the judge had the highest intensity moment when he talked about the marketplace and how it would have functioned had obamacare not been in place. total votes tonight, 320. a new high. finally tonight. former president george w. bush stopped by "the tonight show" last night for a candid sit down with jay leno and spoke about life after leaving the oval office. >> now, president obama is kind of getting all the late night jokes now. >> better him than me. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> the president had that heart scare. how scary was that? >> it was scary. very scary. >> yeah. >> i wasn't that scared. [ laughter ] >> you had obamacare? [ laughter ]

>> thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that is it for this "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. greta goes "on the record" right now and "special report" online begins in three seconds. this is a fox news alert. there is new evidence just days before the launch people inside the white house feared healthcare.gov would not work. fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry is here with the latest. ed? >> good to see you, greta, emails came out tonight fox news. republican darrell issa obtained them from the health and human services department, some the contractors involved in healthcare.gov. what they suggest is that about a week before the october first rollout there was a meeting in which at least one top white house aide expressed concern. this is an email by henry chao from cms