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well-deserved. he's also a friend ofprogram an happier for him. that's all we have this evening. don't forget each weekday, at 5:00 on this is a fox news alert, a budget due to capitol hill. paul ryan and senate budget committee patty murray, hammering out the two-year agreement, if passed it would avoid a government shutdown and in just a few minutes, congressman ryan will be here to go on the record. there's a doctors in the house, but not for long. family doctor steven kiddic joins us. >> good evening to you. >> let me start first with a copy of the ad you put in the newspaper, saying you are shutting down your business. why are you shutting down your
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business? >> okay, yes, i posted it up. the more i realized, i would have to have electronic medical records and electronic transcribing, i feel like it's too much of a financial burden for my office to attain this. i had to close down my office and give about a 30-day notice to my patients throughout the community, that's why i put the ad in the paper. some people might want to know why, because i put due to articles of obama care. >> the top of it says, due to the policies of obama care, in black and white, it says that. now, the cost of doing the technology upgrades, as i understand it is what has convinced you to get out of the business, but there's a provision in the obama care where you can get money down the road to reimburse you for the technology upgrades. is this something you just don't want to make yourself available
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to or it doesn't work to you? >> yes, it is a position, but you get the money on the back of the end. so your computer has to follow meaningful use on your computer, which means you have to go through different tiers of acceptance and there's hundreds of requirements in obama care that your computer has to follow in order for you to receive the reimbursement two to three years down the road. you have to pay the full expense upfront and then two to three years later, then they will reimburse you for that, if the program is still around. >> i did research, somerset, kentucky has a population over 11,000. you've been in practice for a number of years. have your patients responded to the fact that you're closing down? >> yes, i have approximately 4,000 patients right now.
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they're quite upset about this. but they're understanding. >> if it weren't for obama care would you stay in business for a number of years or are you ready to move on? >> no, i would practice until the sun set. continue practicing maybe four or five more years, so this is a big decision to make. >> are there other doctors available in the community? are these patients left high and dry, or is there someplace else they can go? >> we are giving them a list of some doctors with their numbers that are taking new patients and we feel like they would accept them. so we're trying to be accessible for our patients to have new doctors. the county is around 40,000, so there's a number of doctors in the area. >> do other doctors feel the same way as you do in your community about obama care that it makes it difficult to
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continue to practice? >> i think they feel that way. most of them have already made a commitment to invest in the equipment. across the nation, you have to switch over to electronic medical records. there's no exception to the rule. and right now you do all your records just by paper, right? that's how you keep your records? >> that is correct. it's all paper records that i have, and i still use that and just prescription pads. and both of those will be coming down. all the paper records have to be put on the computer directly to the pharmacy. >> i take t the paper heads worked well for you, your patients and your community as far as you know? >> yes, it has worked well for me without any problems or complications. so as i say, i'm not in the position financially. it's just too much of an obstacle for me to overcome to
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have to get into electronic records at this time in my life. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> it's true they're feeling the pinch, at least some of them pb access to hospitals and access to medications, americans are facing uncertainty about their health care. nice to see you, sir. >> thank you. >> dr. carson, when you hear about this doctor in a 40,000-person county, are you surprised he's getting out of his business? >> i'm not surprised and my heart goes out to him. i talk to doctors all over the country, constantly, who are facing similar situations. and you know, it costs a lot of money to upgrade to an electronic system. and even more concerning than that to me is the fact that you put all of this information into this electronic form which is
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accessible to people who you perhaps don't want it to be accessible to. it's been well publicized that the site can be easily hacked. do you want all this sensitive information all over the place? some of the kinds of questions that are asked by doctors, very sensitive. and it's required. have you to do all the check marks on the electronic medical records. the only way to escape that is if you pay cash and request the doctor not to include certain information, and most people are not going to do that. one of the reasons that private practice is disappearing is because all these different costs and requirements are so onero onerous, you need to be under the umbrella of a hospital or big medical system to do that. basically we're in the process of making doctors into government employees. you talk about the big medical centers, seedars sinai,
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sloan-ketteri sloan-kettering, they've all been removed from insurance networks. so i don't know where they'll get the money or the patients if the doctors have to move to bigger institutions. the institutions have to make money. >> it's true. and it's very difficult. you know, having spent my whole life in academic medicine, i can tell you, as a practitioner, working for a university, you are still responsible for the cost of your administrative staff and for all of the other expenses, everything you had to pay for, you had to pay for your laboratory, out of money that you generated. so all of these prestigious institutions with world-class physicians are going to be hurting. they're going to be looking for money. it's being parcelled out to them. if they do this and if they do that. so basically tightening the noose of control around them. you jump through this hoop and i'll give you some money. you know, i don't know how this
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ever happened to us. this is america. and we've allowed this to happen. i'm not giving up. i think it's a very good chance that we can reverse this and that we can start doing things the way that we've done them in the past and bring back free enterprise and the kind of competition that creates excellence and innovation. >> if you say it can be reversed, how do you think or suggest or propose it would be reversed? >> the first thing we have to do is educate the american populace. they have to understand what is happening here. we need to talk about the history. not only of this country, but of other countries that were free and then changed into something else. what were the things that happened? if we can get the people to the point where they're as excited about this as they are about who won the game on sunday, i think we'll be able to make the kind of changes that we need to make. i see that happening all over the country. so i'm actually kind of
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optimistic. >> dr., carson, thank you, sir. >> always a pleasure. it's not just doctors and consumers. even some insurance agents say enough is enough. they're fed up with health and we'll hear why. also paul ryan is here, he'll go on the record about the new budget that was just agreed on. but first i want to talk to you off the record. i'll do it after the break. it's about president obama's handshake with cuba's castro. that's next.
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let's all go off the record for just a minute. first, yes, it is so complicated. it's one of those topics with no perfect answer, but with lots of heated debate. president obama shook hands with cuba's castro at mandela's memorial service. and that handshake, it's now the epicenter of a new controversy. was the president wrong to do it? or was he right? one thing is certain, the wrong way to judge this is whether you like him or you don't like him. if you agree with his policies, don't just decide it was a great idea to shake the hand. likewise, if you think his policies are dismal, don't just knee jerk decide he was wrong to shake castro's hand. here's the way to judge it.
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dabeg a deep breath, step back, yes, cuba is a communist countries and it's a terrible place to live. he stole property belonging to many citizens and they fled for their lives. over the decades he's been in power, he's done worse. right now fiddle and raul castro are holding american ryan gross. we want our american back, and right now. this was a memorial service involving an international figure, a man who was about transcending differences and bitterness and this controversy has an element of manners associated with it. if president obama skipped castro, you know the story would have been all about president obama and likely many would have jumped to claim he was making this mandela memorial all about himself. a lousy thing to do at a memorial. so yes, it's complicated. if you're looking for reasons to
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criticize in any complicated situation, you can find them. but shaking hands or not shaking hands was a no-win situation for our president. and that's my off the record comment tonight. if you have an important story or issue you think i should take off the record, tell us about it. while the frustration is building, it's not just you, the consumer, or hospitals, or doctors who are fed up with the obama care website. many insurance agents are too. richard stark is one of them. he's also a democratic florida state representative. good evening, sir. >> how are you today? >> i'm very well. so tell me, what is it as an insurance agency that you object to about health >> i don't object to health i understand the purpose for it, but the rollout has been rocky. and the way that people, the masses were going to be enrolled was by hiring navigators and application assisters in many
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parts of the country to enroll people. but it's not been working well. and insurance agents were not asked to play a prominent role in this to begin with, but just in the state of florida, there's about 100,000 insurance agents alone, professionally trained, we understand how health insurance works, and i would like to see the administration aggressively work with insurance agents to get the affordable care act rolling along. >> from what i understand, correct me if i'm wrong, is that if an insurance agent attempts to help somebody on the website and the website we all know has been a problem, if the insurance agent then bypasses the website and goes to the hotline and actually enrolls the client in health insurance, that the insurance agency is cut out of the commission. there's no mechanism to make sure the insurance agent gets the commission, is that true or false? >> that appears to be true. if the beginning of the process, when people are enrolling
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online, they're asked if there's somebody that's a broker or an agent that will be assisting them? and they've got to say yes, and they've got to type in the agent's national producer number. if they're not able to work that way, it may be difficult for an agent to get credit for working with this particular individual. so this has an effect of wiping out your industry or your occupation? >> well, i'm a little bit more optimistic than that. you know, most of my client base are not the people that are going to receive a advance tax credit. but we've got enough that we're very busy assisting these folks and if the masses are having troubles getting in, they need to be working with an insurance agent who's going to explain exactly what it is they're buying to begin with. so that's a kink that's got to be worked out of the system, that the agent's national
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producer number has to be given in their credit. listen, the president has signalled flexibility. he met with industry leaders, about two, three weeks ago, and i see a slow process moving, that i think it's starting to pay off. just the fact that we're doing this interview, there were newspaper articles about this over the weekend, to me signals there's a change in the right direction. >> all right. we have ten seconds left. if in a month we're still having the same conversation, would you think they're moving in the right direction? >> i would say we're not moving as quickly in the right direction as i would like to see. and you make a strong point. >> all right, thank you, sir. >> thank you. now, to the most talked about selfie today. president obama, british prime minister david cameron posing for the selfie shot. first lady michelle obama not taking part. but it's where the selfie was taken, at the memorial service
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for nelson mandela. the service did a celebratory mood, but many are calling it inappropriate and bad etiquette. you be the judge. is it appropriate for the world leaders to be taking selfies at a memorial service o in bad taste? vote in our poll. and straight ahead, president obama is about to be tested. what is the topic and will the president pass the test or flunk? paul ryan goes on the record, he's here to tell you about the brand new budget deal that would avoid another shutdown. congressman paul ryan coming up.
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look, i've always said i will work with anybody to implement and the improve this law effectively. you got good ideas? bring them to me. >> one republican lawmaker wants to take president obama up on that. representative tim griffin writing a letter to the president dated today. nice to see you, sir. >> thank you for having me again. >> you're taking the president up on the offer? >> yeah, we're wondering why the president wants to keep doing things the old way. and what i mean by that is, when there's a problem, washington and this president in particular, they want to have a top-down, washington knows best solution, where they pick an agency here in washington, and they say, that's the answer to this problem. and we've got a lot of alternatives, a whole host of them. some have been around for a few years, and there are a lot of new ones. some were around when obama care was debated.
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>> i mean, i think the whole idea, though, is can you get the meeting with him? he's said he'll meet with you. >> sure. >> so what are the odds? air force one coming back from south america. do you expect him to say, come on over? >> well, we got 34 members signed on to hear, including chairman of the rfc, and what do we got to lose here? >> how much are you going to push it? there's a lot of letter writing that goes into a dark hole. you wrote the letter today. he's made the offer. that's almost like a contract. you've accepted it. so now you'd expect it to happen. >> we're going to continue to push it and here's why. i think it's -- there's a role for us to play in terms of oversight of obama care. i think the american people, though, at some point, are going to say, we're not happy with obama care, but it's not enough
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to simply be against obama care. it's important to lay that out. but we want to hear your solutions. and will what i am saying, what a lot of us in the house are saying, is, hey, we've got a number of solutions. there are over 200 bills introduced in the house by republicans that deal with health care reform. so we're going to continue to push this. i'm going to give him the holidays off and we'll meet with him in january if that's what he wants to do. >> here's the thing. he's not going to want to hear that you're going to repeal obama care. it's not going to get you in the door at all. what he says is he wants good ideas. so you need to say, i have good ideas, take you up on your very public offer. you told the american people you're willing to do it, so put his feet to the fire and say, i'm coming with my ideas, not to criticize, just to say, these are my good ideas. >> i agree, and i'll say this. most of us around this town for a while, we understand that as
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long as there's a president with the last name obama in the white house that he's not going to sign a repeal of obama care. we get that. but we still have an obligation to talk about some alternatives. and i will say this. he said that he won't repeal obama care. what he means is, he won't sign a law repealing it, but the one person in this town that has done more to waive and repeal obama care is president obama. a lot of it, i think he's done beyond his legal ability. i think that's congress's role -- >> i look forward to your discussion with him. thank you. >> thank you. we'll keep you updated. up next, paul ryan, he and senator murray holding a news conference to explain they've reached a bipartisan budget
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deal. what do you think? tweet us now.
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>> this is a fox news alert, a bipartisan budget deal on capitol hill. paul ryan and patty murray hammering out the agreement. nice to see you, sir. >> good to be back with you. >> you must be happy tonight if you've hammered out this deal? >> i am. because it's a deal that moves the ball in the right direction. it cuts the deficit without raising taxes, by cutting spending in smarter ways than the across-the-board approach. a lot of people were worries about all the defense cuts, and we're cutting spending on auto pilot programs that were untouched for years. doing it in a way to make sure there's no tax increases and make sure we lower the deficit. want me to walk you through it? >> yeah. >> i'm happy to do it. if you look at this charts,
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discretionary spending, the blue line on the top shows you the agreement we had a year ago under the budget control act. the sequester is the red line which cut spending. what this green area does reflects what we're doing, by preventing the military from getting cut any further, we're putting a little bit of money back in the sequester here, and we're paying for it by cutting areas in other areas of government. asking public employees to pay more for their pensions. our argument is that hard workers pay for the pension in the first place and their benefits are better in the first place. so we have a number of reforms that are permanent, that save more money and pay for some relief of the sequester. we also see this puts us in the right direction because the numbers down here, a year ago, when i was passing a budget in the house, we were hoping for a trillion, $19 billion in total
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discretionary funding. we won't hit that level until the year 2017 until this agreement. so we're well ahead of schedule and getting cuts in areas we've never been able to get before. and it makes government work and prevents shutdowns. >> i love and bipartisan deal in this city. i like that it's two years because there's a level of certainty for the business community. other than asking the federal workers to pay a little more in their pensions, where else are you getting the money? >> there's a lot of things. we're opening up a little bit of the gulf of mexico for oil and gas drilling. 172 million barrels of oil, in an area that had been closed off, it's going to be opened up. dad beat dads who don't pay for kids medicaid payments need to pay for them. we're making sure we don't send prisoners payments from the irs in prison that they shouldn't be
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getting. making sure people can't rip off dead people's identities so they don't keep getting checks after they've passed away. there's a lot of fraud waste. and we go after corporate welfare. there's a research and development company that's subsidizing with public spending for private taxpayer dollars. that's a program we get rid of. it's a lot of things like that. >> if patty murray was sitting here, what would she say she was happiest about? >> stop government shutdowns and don't to continuing resolutions anymore. >> you like that too. >> she wanted relief from the sequester. >> you wanted that too. >> so long as we paid for it, and we paid for it with more deficit reduction. whatever we did, i wanted to make sure it was a step in the right direction toward deficit reduction. she wanted relief from the
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sequester. that's where we were able to find common ground. i had core principles that i was not going to compromise. i'm not going to raise taxes and i'm going to lower the deficit. she had core principles that she wasn't going to compromise. she wanted 50% back to domestic, and 50% back to defense -- >> did she get that? >> she did. >> so we looked at the areas of common ground, common understanding, we negotiated that and that's what this result is. so the way i look at this, you don't have to require the other person to violate a core principle to get things done. you have common ground. this isn't the greatest agreement of all time, because we have a long way to go to get the deficit under control, but this is a step in the right direction. >> this is nothing to do with tax reform?
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>> no. >> only deals with the whole budget. one of the things the democrats wanted was extend unemployment benefits. >> we didn't do that. >> did you ask for anything they didn't want to do? >> i wanted to have higher income seniors pay more premiums for medicare. they didn't. >> have you spoken to speaker boehner? >> yes, he's been part of this. i've spoken to dozens of my colleagues in the house, talking to them, getting input, speaking with a lot of members of the senate, trying to get input from our colleagues. we haven't had a bipartisan budget agreement with both houses are controlled by different parties since 1986. so putting something like this together is not easy to do. it allows some give and take. as far as i'm concerned, it's a step in the right direction. it advances our principles of fiscal conserve -- oversight on
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obama care, oversight on the irs and not focus on government shutdowns. >> does this have any impact at all on the fact that we'll likely hit the debt ceiling sometime in the spring? >> this does not touch the debt ceiling, just like it doesn't touch taxes or tax reform. by limiting it in scope to spending and deficits, we were agreement. >> in terms of getting it passed in the house, i suspect you're going to need some democrats. >> it's a bipartisan agreement. we anticipate that as well. >> that means you'll lose republicans in the house. >> i anticipate some people will not vote for it for various reasons. but as far as a conservative republican principle is concerned, we are lowering the deficit without raising taxes, by cutting spending in smarter ways. we have permanent spending cuts to pay for temporary sequester
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relief. so i think as far as conservativism is concerned, we're advancing the ball. the problem is, we didn't get everything we want. it balances the budget in ten years and pays off the debt. i know with this divided government i can't get that. >> so you'll lose republicans in the house and pick up some democrats. that's why i asked about the issue of extending the unemployment because that would have been a way to pick them up. >> it is, but it's something we weren't prepared to do. democrats weren't interested in paying for it. we also think there's an economic case to make with the fact that long-term unemployment is propped up. people are more induced to staying unemployed. that's what the studies are showing us. >> your press conference ended about 6:20. and marco rubio at 6:23 had
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issued his press release to everybody in the media saying he was opposed. >> i haven't talked to him. i do suspect some people will vote against it. in the minority, you don't have to pass things. that's a luxury or not. that people have in the senate. marco's a very good friend of mine. i'm a big fan of his. i wish he would support it, but if he doesn't, that's fine. i'm happy to get the cuts from an area of spending we haven't been able to touch in years. >> what's his biggest problem? >> they didn't like the idea that we are going to ask federal employees to pay more for their pensions. >> he had a hand in how we did this. i was willing to negotiate on how we treated federal
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employees, not if we made them pay more for their pensions. he had a very substantial involvement in how the policy works. we want to make sure federal employees have their benefits more in line with the hard working taxpayers that pay for them. we really think it's time we deal with this at the federal level. i didn't get every policy i wanted on this, but we've got a substantial down payment on this problem and congressman van hollen was a part of that. >> no one ever gets what he or she wants, but it's so important for our economy, so that anybody at least gives it a shot, i think that helps. >> the idea of a government shutdown in january and the idea of another possible one in october, and getting rid of that is good. i think there are a lot of people who would like the distraction of government shutdown for one reason or another. i think the administration is not high on the obama care focus
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that is occurring in the country. >> so you think they like the shutdown? >> i wouldn't say they like shutdowns, but i think they'd like to get off obama care. by not shutting it down, we're not going to get off obama care. we're going to keep doing our oversight and shining the light on these problems with the law and that to us gives us a good position opini position. the last point i'll make, congress, we are supposed to set spending and prioritize funding. for the last three years, we've been doing continuing resolutions, where we delegate that power to the executive branch. doing something like this, guarantees that we do that. >> vote likely on thursday? >> yes. >> congratulations to both you and senator murray. good luck. >> appreciate it. >> straight ahead, going to extremes, small business owners
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drowning in obama care expenses. you have to hear what at least one of them is doing. that's coming up.
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this is a fox news alert. get ready for another round of that ugly winter weather. another storm threatening to slam the northeast with more snow. we have the latest. >> are you ready for it? here we go again. over half a foot of snow in maryland. virginia, five inches, four in new jersey, set a record in
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central park, 1.5 inches, a record for this day. a quick moving system. we do have some lake effect snow down wind of erie and ontario, but it will be cold. any of that snow that's melting will freeze on the roadways and it's going to be dangerous. those lows are going to continue to be scary cold for the next several days. that's nothing compared to the upper midwest. look at these lows tonight. these are not windchill temperatures, minus teens, minus 20. windchill warnings in effect, it will feel anywhere from minus 35 to minus 50. dangerous temperatures. that's not the only thing we're watching. saturday into sunday, could be a nor'easter, depending on how much cold air wraps around this low is going to depend on how much snow we get. here's one of the forecast models. this would be quite an event if
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we get six to 12 inches in all of the areas shaded in blue. the darker blues, 18 to 24 inches. >> at least the snow will skip us in the second round, skip washington, d.c. that's the good news. >> we'll see. we're five days out. anything past five days, a little hard to forecast. my cut says there will be a long winter. although that's not scientifically proven. >> probably pretty good, though. thank you. >> you're welcome. up next, small business owners trying to cope with obama care. our next guest with help from an unexpected source. you're going to hear the story next.
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how bad is it? listen to this, it's so bad that an insurance agent is giving one
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business owner his own credit card to pay for medical expenses. drew greenblatt joins us. good evening, drew. >> hi, hello, good evening. >> so you were here last year on november 20th, and since then i'm now hearing that your insurance agency is lending its credit card to you. what's the story? >> so according to my insurance agent, the affordable care act has caused so many complications for our insurance company that they can't process all of the cards, all of the cards that you hand to our doctors or the pharmacists when you have to pay the bills. so we did not receive our cards and because of that, we're now ten days into a month and my employees, when they go to a doctor or to a pharmacist, they can't cover the bill. so my insurance agent has reached out to my employees and myself and said, he's going to give us his personal credit card to cover any expenses that occur until we get our cards. it's such a crazy experience
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because the affordable care act is gumming up the works and all of the insurance companies can't process and their computers aren't working effectively. it's really causing a lot of problems. >> maybe i'm confused. but why is your insurance starting on january 1? isn't that when you need the new cards? >> we started december 1. so we paid our bills in early november. signed all of our contracts in early november. usually it's a time when we do the mac reina, we're all done. we don't have to think about insurance. how boring is it, right? but what's happening is, december 1, we should have had our cards. we should have been able to go around and use our cards to pay for the health insurance that our company is providing for our employees. but because the insurance company is so mired down in computer glitches and problems, they're not able to give our employees and myself and my family the cards we need to do
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it the normal way. so our insurance agent has to use his own credit card to cover our employees during this weird situation. >> i literally have ten seconds left. what percentage has your insurance gone up for your business? >> well, it was supposed to go up 49%. we negotiated with the new carrier, it's only going up 10%, but it's really disappointing. we've had that old insurance carrier for 15 years, we really liked them. but because of the unaffordable nature of this 49% increase, we had to go to a different one. >> drew, thank you. good luck, sir. >> thank you. up next, it gets worse. more bad news for president obama. what is it? that's next. don't forget to watch hannity tonight, his guests include crystal rice and leo terrell from clear the that's tonight at 10:00 p.m. hannity, right here. hi, i'm terry and i have diabetic nerve pain.
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caulkin's face in the movie home alone? he just joined a cover band and all they sing about is pizza. ♪ papa john's says and i'm waiting for the delivery man, and that's what we're watching tonight. and coming up, news president obama is not going to like at all. stick around. the latest is next.
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president obama's approval rating sinking to a new low. according to the latest poll, only 38% of voters approve of the way the president is doing his job. elise, he's on a plane coming home, he'll learn he's down to 38%. >> it's not a good poll for the white house right now. the point i was interested in, among all the areas, health care is the one where people are ranking him the most low. not surprising considering the rollout of obama care. granted they're starting to recover, but it seems this will deal him a blow that lasts several months if not into next year when we'll be watching the mid terms. >> the other interesting thing, among young people, 42% disapproval rating. usually flip that around because he gets a lot of support from
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young people. also the independent vote, 62% disapproval rating. that's dangerous for the president and democrats in general. because they rely on the independents in many close elections to carry them across the finish line. so i thought the poll was an interesting one. it's an all time low for quinnipi quinnipiac, if he goes much lower, he'll drive the party down. i think it's all going to hinge on health care law. if it still looks like a sdaft, you'll see him keep going down. >> bipartisan budget deal, going to pass? >> see about that. certainly staunch republicans are expressing concern about it. many have said even before they read it, before the details were announced, that no one should vote against it -- >> you mean for it or against it? >> for it, excuse me. the groups said they were going to key vote this vote and look for it in the mid term elections
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which is going toic imake a lo people nervous. >> it will pass. it's a bill that favors democrats. how do you know that? because they were willing to give up the unemployment insurance part of the deal. they're getting wreplacing a loy for domestic programs. all they're giving up is money for the military, raised fees, democrats aren't opposed to that. their big loss is increased pension benefits for federal employees, but really it's a deal that favors the democrats. they'll luds a lot of conservative republicans, but it will pass. >> we haven't got all the details, but i'm sure there will be a lot of chatter about it in the next 24 hours. thank you both very much. and thank you for being with us tonight. we'll see you all again, when? tomorrow night. where? right here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. go to greta and vote on
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