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sin and sin no more. i bet they am even slap your bakx, namely to confirm you have a backbone. that's your homework aassignment. do it. hello, everyone. i'm andrea it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." is the world finally waking up to the growing threat of islamic terror. we've warned about the escalating attacks on christians worldwide. now with the kidnappings of nearly 300 school girls in nigeria, our government, celebrities and international community seem to be finally paying some attention. first lady michelle obama has joined an online campaign to find and free the missing girls. angelina jolie has long been a woman's rights advocate. she's now calling for their release and urging action against boko haram.
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>> i'm absolutely sickened by it. if the world does nothing, then they get away with this, then we set this horrible precedentist think it's extremely important that something is done immediately to try to find these girls, to try to bring them home and god forbid we can't, we have to still bring these men to justice. >> the muslim terrorists of boko haram are waging war against western education. hoping to raise awareness is the pakistani school girl shot in the head by the taliban. >> i think we should not remain silent. this is my feeling, that if we remain silent then it will spread, happen more and more and more. if you want to stop it, then you have to speak. >> so, bob, the president of nigeria goodluck jonathan is a known christian, and if you listen to what the leader of boko haram is saying, not only does he want to embarrass this president and start a war
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between the muslims and christians in nigeria, he is calling to reinstate an islamic cal will owe fate in north nigeria. the goal seems to be the same as the other terror organizations. >> this is the same. it's like for angelina jolie to say this. where has everybody been for the last two or three years where this has been going on? i've talked about it. you've talked about it. the thing that amazes me, it's not just that it the muslims keep their mounl mouths shut bei point out they're cowards. but in the united states, our own president has not done enough, our state department has not done enough. the celebrities are coming out why. because these are 300 girls. i understand that. believe me when i say they may become the one key that frienlly gets the world woken up. why did it take david cam rorngs the first leader of the west to say something about this. why has not a single head of the
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muslim countries done anything about this? i tell you it's because they're afraid of these people. you do that and allow them to do the things they do. unless and until you're willing to get the guts up to take on some of your own people, you deserve what you're getting. >> dana, we talked about this before the show went live, that angelina jolie has been focused on boko haram. the celebrities seem to be late. earlier this year 50 nigerian boys were kidnapped and slaughtered at a school, some burned alive, but we didn't really hear much about it. there was silence from hollywood. why now, like bob says? >> you never really know what's going to capture somebody's imagination or to get something going viral. i guess you could say better late than never. but it is curious to me that 60 boys can be murdered and you don't hear anything about it but 300 girls. and i'm all for it. but i also wonder about the 8,000 children in syria and the question about we can't allow
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what boko haram is doing to stand when the syrian government used chemical weapons against those children. there's video of it. we knew where they were with. i think there's a question of consistency. i believe it goes back to something very key that we learned after september 11th. there have been terrorist attacks including the one that eric witnessed at the world trade center in 1983, then you go forward to 2001, in between there lots of attacks were all around. but the catastrophic ones, ones where you have thousands of people will killed, that hasn't happened in a while. al qaeda is one of the thunders of boko haram. i think the global war on terror is called global for a reason. the designation of -- you're either with us or you're against us i think still should hold. and i think the third thing is on the funding part of it. saudi arabia, qatar and turkey have all given money to this group, and we i think we'd need to stand hopefully with our western european partners but if
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not alone sanctioning those types of funds because that way you can cut off the money supply and hopefully prevent them from being able to purchase weapons like they did out of libya. >> despite the money connections these groups seem to have, al qaeda and islamic ma greg, al shabaab, they all have the same goal. yet the "new york times" still tries to differentiate between these groups. sot headline today from the "new york times," we have a full screen of it. it seems like they're trying to make al qaeda a sympathetic group, abduction of girls an act not even al qaeda can condone. as if al qaeda is somehow a good terrorist group. >> only in the "new york times" can they take a horrible, horrible terrorist crime and use it to soften the reputation or portrait of other terrorists. but that's part of the bigger problem, which has always been a denial of a greater evil, which is the war on civilization. it's not a war on girls. it's a war on civilization. the war on girls is great because it allows a lot of
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people who are scared of being called islam aphobia to come out and condemn this. right now you have the online campaign, i would rather bomb terrorists than tweet them. i don't p think terrorists go to twitter. i think hash tags make people feel really really good like you're doing something. it's like waving to a stranger on a boat. and then you never think about it again. the fact is, if there's no cost to you there's almost no result. before something really really awful happens, whether a market blows up, planes fly into buildings, children are burned alive, a man gets beheaded, you hear one man scream allah akbar. it seems like all of a sudden our president and celebrities are hearing it. we've heard it at ft. hood, when a man was beheaded in the street. but we have always denied evil because we were scared that we would be labeled a bigot. so now, thank god, the outrage over this because it's girls has allowed people who otherwise would not do this do it now. so i will take it. >> do you think it matters,
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eric, that it's girls? do you think that's what triggered this? because we talked about boys being murdered before. as greg said, adults have been murdered, over 20,000 terrorist deaths last year alope. why now? >> i think it has something to do with it. believe it or not, some say the hash tag bring our girls back has to do it as well. we're going to get into why the state department under hillary clinton didn't label these people as a foreign terrorist organization in the flext block. but i find it interesting. president obama was at a fund-raiser last night, i wish i could just do something. well, he could. he can. i mean, there are enough signs, these people bombed a u.n. headquarters in nigeria. their name is western education is sinful. they are a terrorist organization. >> very vague. >> right. they lit are rally say, we're done with nigeria now. let's turn our focus to the west, to america and great
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britain. so they clearly could do something. i mean, we've droned people probably for less than that. president obama could do something if he chooses to. my question is, why is he saying it? is there a defense of it? >> no. i was the lone liberal in this crowd to say i thought obama hadn't done enough. we have sent a military contingency in there. probably a lot more going on than we know. i don't even know what a hash tag means. it sounds like food. i don't care what had it is. it still gets back, we tried to call the egyptian embassy and the saudi embassy for a comment on this a couple of days ago, and we have not heard back from them. why it is that we have presumably allies like saudi arabia and we continue to allow them who fund so much of this radicalism to keep it away from their backyard. there's a point in time where
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humanity has got to say, stop being afraid. it's not just a question of what's politically correct. there's nothing politically correct about taking 300 girls. i want to know on my side where n n.o.w. is, the women's groups. >> let's stay on the original thing. you cut me off, said hold on hold on and turned it into something else. where's president obama on this? >> i think i said when you said that that i thought i've been saying for a long time i thought they've been very much too quiet. >> you've said the administration should say more. it's not even that they should say more. what they've said and what they've done, their actions, like backing the muslim brotherhood and allowing them to come to power, brgreg has been siding with the enemy and people who hate us and have the shared goal to defeat the west. >> i seem to remember somebody yesterday saying we shouldn't be bombing the terrorists because they'll be replaced, did you say that yesterday eric? didn't you say we shouldn't bomb
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them? >> no. i said there are two different strategies. dow try to contain or eradicate. one is cutting off the head of the snake. but there will be another one. bob said you continue to do that eventually they'll stop regrowing. however, i don't think i've ever indicated that i say don't kill terr terrorists. >> maybe i misheard yesterday. i hear they're for sale. why don't we buy them? if this guy claims the girls are for sale, why don't we buy them and then kill them after we buy them. not girls. there has to be a way. if this guy is so intent on selling these poor girls, there has to be a way to connect with them and purchase them and then when you get the girls kill them. my pessimism is that the girls are not around. >> you're probably right about that. i think it's a little bit of a stretch to suggest that obama was responsible for the muslim brotherhood. that was millions of people in the square. >> then who was? he arranged for them to attend -- cairo.
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>> mubarak and the people doing the slaughtering. >> he told mubarak to step aside. >> look, we can rehash this all we want, hash tag again, about the obama administration. it's not just us. you know who else hasn't spoken up yet? the american people haven't spoken very much. i think everybody has a responsibility to say to their ministers who -- christian churches hire are watching this happen. has anybody heard a major christian figure in this country or any churches say anything about it? no. i get back to this. the reason they're afraid of it is not just political correctness. they think they're going to get a fat -- now, i probably should get one. >> dana, when i think about probably there's a lot going on that we don't know about, i'm okay with that. i don't like to telegraph to the world every single tactic. i don't think the public needs to know. but to bob's point, whose fault is it that the public isn't as educated on radical islam? is it the media's fault, the administration? your former boss made it a
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mission to defeat them. whose fault is it? should we be more informed when it comes to the history? >> i think what the hope is, is that citizens in america can go about their lives and raising their families and go into their jobs and to be able to trust their government is doing as much as it can to protect them. but then we have to have a discussion and decision about what the foreign policy is and do we have national interests that are compelling enough to have us do something in that region. i think something we could do that we hopefully are doing but we could actually increase the budget in our intelligence area for counter intelligence so that you could actually have under cover agents in that region that would be able to maybe do what greg is suggesting, facilitate, okay, we'll buy them type of thing. then there's a -- that's a short-term strategy. the longer term is what boko haram is against, education. that's much bong longer. we have to focus on the short term. we have to take the fight to them or it will come to you.
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>> i agree with what you say. you can't answer this question maybe. but the people who were so strong on the war on terror, i talked specifically on dick cheney. has cheney said one single thing about this? >> let's be honest. if he said anything, would you ridicule him? >> hold that thought, bob. we're going to talk about someone who could have designated them a foreign terrorist organization. then the patriot act would have come into play. i feel really bad for harry reid. how can he link boko haram to the koch brothers. >> or mitt romney. >> here a's another one. >> we also destabilized libya as well will. maybe our idea should be not taking out the strong leaders that -- then we wouldn't -- >> it was a guy named cue dauf 50 we've been trying to get rid of for a long time. >> do the oscar music. coming up, when hillary clinton was at the state department she
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welcome back, everybody. hillary clinton sounded pretty tough yesterday, specifically tough on the muslim extremist group boko haram. listen. >> the seizure of these young women by this radical extremist group boko haram is abominable, criminal, it's an act of terrorist and it really merits the fullest response possible first and foremost from the government of nigeria. >> but this should cause you to pause. turns out when she was secretary of state, the state department refused to classify boko haram a foreign terrorist organization. had they done so, we would have a two-year jump going after these terrorists as assets would be available that were not available because the clinton state department refused the fto distinction, bob. i noticed that she used the word "terrorist" yesterday.
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>> yes. and you may or may not recall, but when this happened before i said that i thought it was crazy not to declare them a terrorist organization, as with all of these people. you know, the united states, what is it that we could -- >> do me a favor. just focus in on hillary clinton. that's what the segment is about. everyone is worried about whether monica lewinsky mentioned her in her vanity fair article or not. hillary clinton dropped the ball by not calling this group a terrorist group. >> the answer to your question is yes if i could follow it up, i think all of us, we go back through the history, the state departments are always cautious about things like this. we have influence that we could use here. if people are afraid to talk out against the muslims, when you use that line you're for us or against us, if you're not with us on this fight against this punk and his people over there, then i think we start using economic sanctions. i said yesterday if brunei decides they want to -- >> for a second, bob, can we
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focus the discussion in. >> how much more do you want me to say? >> you said she dropped the ball. congressman patrick who was on the subcommittee on counterterrorism begged the state department to call that a terror organization. >> there was push back. former administration officials from the obama administration are trying to explain it. one they were saying they worried it would -- if they designated them a terrorist organization that that would increase recruitment. that it would increase the money flowing to them from other groups that were terrorist organizations because maybe they it think they all work in a pack. i'm willing to accept that maybe they thought that at the time and perhaps they have changed their mind now. but she will have to own these decisions and not just at speeches where she gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to impart her thoughts. but she's going to have to answer some questions from the media at some point and a lot of these decisions will be picked apart because as we pointed out a couple of weeks ago, people -- remember on morning joe they couldn't think of an
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accomplishment to identify the state department? there were lots of decisions, though. she's going to have to answer them sooner or later. >> greg, what about it? dropped the ball? >> yeah. if the idea is you don't want to call a terrorist a terrorist because it might elevate their stature, so what you're doing is you're putting feelings before actual action. part of the problem with dealing with islamic radicalism is an avoidance of identification which then prevents confrontation. so when you say, why aren't more coming out against radical islam, a lot of it is because those people are afraid of being labeled a bigot. you will be called an islam aphobic. and this all comes down to this cowardice, a refusal to call evil what it is, evil. ft. hood was what? workplace violence? then we have other terror called man caused disaster. radical islam has built an inventory of evil. it is an amazon of atrocity, but we can't call it what it is
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because we're scared to be called a bigot. >> am i mistaken? did we at one point our administration push back on calling groups radical islamic extremi extremi extremist? they wanted us to stop using those terms. >> nepapolitano put out the mem that talk birthday manmade disasters and republicans and democrats were domestic terrorists. let's get back to hillary clinton. i think the questions for hillary clinton should shift to if she decides to run her role in an administration that's done a number of things whether she agree was these things. for example, would she have had the muslim attend the white house like president obama has? would she have allowed the muslim brotherhood to rise to power? yes or no. would she have ousted gadhafi that led to a destabilized are libya that led to benghazi.
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and mrs. clinton, do you support your husband's decision to give the pakistanis a nuke? what could go wrong. not to be asked questions about monica lewinsky, about her role in an administration that's been apologizing and avoiding the war we are in with radical islam. deliberately. >> you simply cannot lay this all off on hillary clinton. >> she was the secretary of state. >> i'm telling you -- you know what it is? greg's partially right about this. is it politically incorrect to upset muslims, to hell with them. upset them because ias far as i concerned. >> the thing is, within weeks of john kerry becoming secretary of state, that group was designated a foreign terrorist organization. you have to say, what changed? >> if hillary wants to be president, she just has to make sure that candy crowley is moderating the debate. >> quick round on this one. mrs. clinton told robin roberts regarding a benghazi hearing,
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nothing to see here, after all that was so long ago, dude. listen. >> are you satisfied with the answers and are you content with what you know what happened? >> absolutely. i mean, of course there are a lot of reasons why, despite all of the hearings, all of the information that's been provided, some choose not to be satisfied and choose to continue to move forward. that's their choice, and i do not believe there is any reason for it to continue in this way. >> what a weak answer. her response should have been, i'm not going to stop because i'm not satisfied because my personal friend ambassador christopher stevens was killed on my watch and i want to know why. i want to know why the direct cables that he sent me requesting additional security were ignored. if that really was her friend,
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her response should have been very different. >> i want to know why the republicans continue to keep this thing going. we've admitted it. i've said it. it was a political act. there's not much more to learn. there's 300 little girls out there being held captivity and we're worried about benghazi. the republicans are using four dead bodies for political purposes. >> why wasn't she interviewed for the arb report that jay carney loves to point to? >> we've had 21 republican hearings on this stuff. >> he was deliberately left out. >> dana? >> i think her answer was cautious and for good reason. there are some questions that haven't been answered. the standdown order, who actually pushed the video and why. now that we know that was not a true story. she in particular repeated it for another week. and the fact that the document that was released two weeks ago was not release nd the full documents. you cannot uncover document that's are not given to you chshgs is why they have the committee. therefore i think she's kaush because she doesn't know what else is out there. or maybe she does.
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>> hillary's role as secretary of state is far more disturbing than monica's role with her husband. i do believe -- i think that -- everybody suddenly is okay with the fact that they manipulated the talking points for a political reason and everybody is okay, that mean that's if you're not okay with it you're not cool. >> are you okay with spending millions of dollars in the united states congress' time going through an issue they've been over and over again? it's all politics. what they're doing the republicans is playing politics with u.s. taxpayers' money on something that we know what happened. it was bad. it was wrong. >> you think it's worthwhile -- >> i'm going to answer your question, bob. it does bug me when the president of the united states politicized a tragedy to win an election. >> okay. i don't think -- if you think these republicans aren't doing this about 2014 you're kidding yourselves. these punks wouldn't do this unless -- >> they thought it enough to cover it up that it would hurt
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his reelection chances. >> helped his reelection. didn't make it. does that make it any better that they're doing this to play for 2014? >> there are four dead americans, bob. >> bob, you know what i did? a piece of paper i put hillary clinton on top and wrote on the left some of these things boko har haram, reset russia. on the right, maybe you can help me fill it in. coming up, most workers would be fired on the spot if they were caught watching porn in the office. but not if they work for the obama administration. greg has the details coming up next.
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nepa employee downloaded 7,000 porn files onto his government computer. even by bob's count that was a lot. he was even watching the stuff when an agent came to see him.
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i hope for his sake he didn't shake hands. i wonder if this individual spent four hours on a site called sadism is beautiful. >> this individual spent four consecutive hours on a site called sadism is beautiful. >> i got that answer. since 2010 the worker spent six hours a day on the stuff. 5,000 hours. with that commitment he could have earned a pilot's license or learned portuguese. instead he chose self gratification. it says not something just about government but pornography. still, this guy who makes 120 grand per year still has his job. how can that be? especially given the latest on the sequester. remember when we were told that would cost us zillions of jobs? so far only one pink slip. he should have watched porn. look on the bright side. if a bureaucrat watches pornography, that's one less clown meddling in your life.
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better they screw themselves than us. the other issue is hysteria. like so many things the government uses to stoke fear, it rarely pans out. it's like watching porn. it's all sound and fury. at least in porn the people are better looking. six hours of porn a day, twice your habit. >> i really can't fathom it. must have had a real problem. >> when is it not a problem? >> that's an insightful answer for you. >> i'm just too embarrassed. i can't imagine being the supervisor and finding out, hey, your employee spent six hours of porn. >> have you ever watched porn on the internet at all? >> bob! >> no, never? >> we're never going to be able to do this story again. >> never. come on! >> eric, would this ever happen in a private position? >> maybe. i mean, no one else knew he was
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on porn sites six hours -- that's almost the whole day. the thing is, if someone were drinking and they were drunk six hours a day, someone would report them and say this guy has a problem. maybe that's -- >> there's no porn breath. >> but maybe -- >> well, be careful with that. >> maybe people think watching six hours is a problem. >> i want to find out if he got any bonuses. >> i believe he did. >> he actually got a raise. >> yep. >> i did see -- i read one of the stories, greg. look, in his performance review it said he was hard at work. >> oh, my god. >> is there a symbol crashing anywhere? can you imagine being the staffer for darrell issa or the i.t. guy to check the computer. i volunteer to take his computer and brief you on all of the sites he went to. >> i think issa is on top of this purposely. this is absolutely absurd,
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ridiculous, the guy should be gone. i don't think it's a reflection on everyone who works for the government. in private enterprise this has been a problem across the board. >> i think it's across the board nationwide. >> i found out, for example, here you're not allowed to look at any of this stuff after i put a couple of porn sites for fun on some of our people's computers. i found out that is -- >> bob, you just admitted to looking at it here. >> i'm not afraid to admit once in a while -- if anybody tells me except dana who i believe hasn't looked at porn -- never mind. >> it was just two months ago when the epa employee was finally fired and got a fine and might have even pled out for jail time because he was the one who pretended he was in the cia and he never went to work and got like a million dollars over ten years? i actually think this is a bigger government problem, not just about porn. employee that's don't do anything. >> i think when every epa worker or government worker walks in the door should be handed a porn
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video so they're doing that instead of passing regulations and ruining our lives. >> why not? >> one thing we don't talk about here is how many kids have access to -- >> all day long, eric. >> the number of teenagers and others that look at this stuff daily on the internet, i don't know what the rules or regulations are, and i'm being very serious about this. >> i agree with this. >> i think the idea that you allow these sites to go on and anybody can get access to them is wrong. >> how do you stop it? >> is there a way to stop -- >> we're wrapping up, but you can get something for your computer that block thz stuff. but it is amazing. we live in a time where it's like a water faucet of pornography is come noog your house. it's a new transformation. it's transforming the way we even interpret women. it's changing teenagers. it's -- but what can you do? >> then every parent out there ought to get something like that on the computers. >> you could go off the grid and
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live off the land. >> that's a bit strange. next on "the five" -- put that diet on hold. dana has good news for those of us who like to eat fattening foods xs stay tuned.
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is everything we've been told about eating fat to date wrong? a recent study showed there's no good evidence that saturated fats found in butter cheese or red meat cause heart disease. what should we believe and should we just eat what we want? luckily we have food to eat and resident expert, former editor of men's health. greg, when we were told just to eat nonfast crackers and low fat foods, we did that for 20 years has that led to the obesity problem we have today?
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>> carbohydrates make you fat. a high protein diet helps you lose weight fast. bacon, it's so good even pigs eat it. the scariest transformation in the world of facts is that when science chose greed over creed. they realized they could make money by doing research and creating data that was beneficial to bureaucrats. then they could make laws about banning saturated fats. it worked in nutrition, education, health care. we corrupted science, which is why now especially even with climate change and things like that you have to challenge all dogma because science 0 is nifr settled. it's been poisoned by politics and ideological crusaders. but you've got to keep fighting it. every space of your lives is hijacked by lies. >> nina tee schultz wrote an article in the "wall street journal" about this. she said just over the years, eric, that you saw all of this research money basically
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funneled into one guy whose name was ansel benjamin keys, a scientist who said eating saturated fat would raise your cholesterol and causing heart disease. at the time americans were seeing the increase in heart disease have we made the problem worse? the food industry is a huge business. they all went in that direction. >> you're talking to a guy who doesn't eat red meat for a ton of those reasons. i stopped eating red meat and i felt better. that's all there is to it. i don't eat any pork either. greg, the pork you said is the other white meat. does that mean i can eat it? but when you buy it, it's red. >> it's -- you know, i don't see color when i eat meat. >> is that why they call it the other white meat? because they didn't want to be red meat and they -- >> technically, i haven't had a bite of bacon for 20 years because i thought it was red. >> you've got to eat that, eric. it's going to change your life. >> it's nirvana in grease. >> you're going to feel a lot
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better when you eat that. >> i have a challenge with eric. we are working on him by july 1st we hope we're going to get him to eat a cheeseburger which he desperately wants. >> you've got to do it. >> bob, you get frustrated with health and nutrition advice because it seems like every week we're telling you to do something different. >> which i never pay attention to. but the fact that this all started -- think about it. this is an entire dietary change for the united states because of one guy who puts together a survey which is flawed, by the way, and i think one of the things he said was look at what happens in the mediterranean, the great mediterranean diet. they don't eat meat. he took this thing during lent. i mean, it's ridiculous. i will say this to all the cattlemen out there who have been bludgeoned by this stuff. somebody owes them an apology. i'm going to eat every one of these cheeseburgers here. i have had open heart surgery. nothing to do with that. everything to do with using steroids. >> after he did that, he went on
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to climate change. >> andrea, you've seen this in washington, how all forces then all the agencies start to work on something. it's usda, health and human services, patent offices, everything. do you think that maybe it's time washington just slowed down? >> weren't we just talking about them watching six hours of porn? we're trustding the government? i want to ask you, every women's magazine seems to contradict itself. one day there's an article that red meat is good for you, the next d i shouldn't eat chicken because there's too many hormones in the chicken. i just eat everything in moderation. bob says the mediterranean diet. it seems to work for me. >> like the government, more harmful than any fast food. they always have a prescription without ever a diagnosis. they present a problem or present the solutions in search
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of a problem. in this case, this is the problem. >> that's to justify their jobs? >> we've got to run. >> can we eat now? >> yes. there's a lot of talk about the impact violent video games or tv shows can have on kids. what about all of those violent video that's go viral on youtube. we're going to debate that coming up. bulldog: oh boy!
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excuse me, i'm trying to finish my hamburger here. the air of online fame has created a dangerous byproduct. videos are quite disturbing. some psychologists think site likes youtube are teaching kids to be violent. >> you kick me in the stomach again! it don't matter, stupid [ bleep ]! >> what do you think? is this something that you think is really impacting eric on kids who watch these things? >> i do. you see a lot of these kids, they're videotaping arguments, hoping it turns into a fight. and the kids who are fighting see the camera and go, let's make this look good. and it probably does.
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but the question is, do you stop it? right now everyone has a video camera on their tfl. we're getting videos of things that we wouldn't have gotten in the past. things that are enlightening, politicians doing stuff that we wouldn't have known about in earlier years. i don't think you stifle it. i think you teach your kids, this lives on forever. those kids will be on that video for eternity. it will follow them for the effort are of their lives. >> dana? >> i think kids are copycats. as to greg's book, not cool. bh you try to fit in, for some reason because this is viral and you can spread it so much more quickly and people can see it, then they try to be cool and this is the way to be cool. i can't even watch them. it makes me upset. >> i can't watch it, as we show it over and over again. >> i haven't looked at it. >> did you know in second grade bobby hit me over the head with a hunch pail? you don't know it because it was 1970 and not 2014. it's not that there's more violence it's just that we have
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this thing in our hands that we can film. i think it's good it's there, but it's not just kids. it's the adults doing it. the bravo channel. if you turn it on, everybody is throwing wine on each other. hey, we're friends. what happened last night? she throws wine in their face. >> do you agree with the copycat argument? >> i think it depends on what it is. i agree with greg. i think this happened before the internet. i don't think it's making us more violent, though. kids are going to be kids. it just happens to be documented in this way. now, if you're looking for somebody to part ner up with like lonely kids to find friends online, kids who have destructive thoughts, the internet has made that easier. i think you had to work harder to find somebody more like minded at school because it was hard to express how you really were feeling inside. the internet makes that easier, which is more dangerous. but i don't think it's making us more violent necessarily. >> my take on it is i think kids who are prone to violence will
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look at this stuff over and over again, kids who probably are not prone to strviolence are outrag by it. i may be wrong. maybe it is changing people. i don't think so. i think kids look out for stuff like that. >> that stupid knockout game probably wouldn't have continued it on if people weren't videotaping it. >> you may be right. "one more thing" is up next. i can fush inish my burger. thank you.
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charles barkley has himself in trouble with the women of san antonio when he made this remark the other day, giving sports commentator. >> big old women down there. that's a gold mine for weight watchers. and victoria definitely a secret. they can't wear no victoria secret down there. >> note to charles, i wouldn't go back to san antonio anytime soon. if you're trying to drum up business for weight watchers, i think you could have found a better way to do it. dana? >> following that, if you love a wwe, you are going to want to be in washington, d.c., this saturday because john cena, a superstar of wwe and the wwe divas will be on the susan g. komen race for the cure saturday in washington at 8:00 a.m. the 25th anniversary, they raise a lot of money for the uninsured and under insured to fund research programs in the it will be a great event, great cause. sign up at and then
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you can maybe see those folks. >> very cool. bob? >> well, i'm a big fan of nancy pelosi, nobody else around the table is. nancy said something the other night and my friend you're a great legislator, but you've got to be careful say things like this. >> i wanted to ask you about that report that came out that the china's economy is going to pass the size of the united states and become the economic power. should americans be concerned? >> i think americans can be very confident in the strength of our economy. enjoy the evening. >> thank you so much. >> lighten up. >> here's the problem, lighten up about the chinese moving toward number one in the world economy is something not to lighten up about, nancy. >> i agree with you bob. greg? >> a place called niagara's honeymoon suites has made a dream of mine come true. let's see what they sent dana here. this is a framed picture of jasper made of chocolate.
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as you know, my dream has always been to eat a dog, much like our president of the united states, and i always wantsed to eat jasper. that's good. >> now you put your paws all over it, nobody else will want to eat it. >> i'll eat it. >> bob, why don't you finish your burger? >> i had the same feeling about jasper. >> delightful. >> i'm catholic, i go to church. this is a story that is absolutely ridiculous. on harvard campus monday night the satanic temple will hold a satanic black mass on the harvard campus. the group says the reenactment represents a satanic temple will provide narration and historical aspects on satanic mass. if that is passing at harvard, that's bad. >> the chocolate dog is interesting.
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>> it's not bad. >> it's different. >> it's not a chocolate. >> it's not a chocolate bunny. >> that's it for us here at the five. be sure to set your dvr so you don't miss an episode. see you tomorrow. "special report" up next. top senate democrat harry reid claimed the sequester has already cost more than 1.5 million jobs. the new math brings the total down a bit to just one. this is "special report." >> good evening, i'm bret baier. washington, d.c. is taking fuzzy math to a new leve despite 0 pock lipt ick warnings about the man it dated across the board government cuts known as xwesequestration, the real damage was to the truth. james rosen tells us about


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