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tonight on huckabee... >> these men and women could be anything they wanted to. >> they chose to be greater people. >> war hero dakota myers on helping fellow veterans transition into this civilian work force. >> part of the training and skills. >> and... scandal at the va. >> these allegations prove to be true, it's dishonorable. it's disgraceful. and i will not tolerate it. >> a former veteran's affairs hospital doctor says reports of mistreatment are not isolated cases. >> some cases, i did see better care at the prison hospital. than i actually did in the va
hospital. >> plus, they insist to serve their country. >> boys were so close. >> two best friends, now brothers forever. >> governor mike buck abee. [ applause ] >> thank you. thank you very much. great audience. and welcome to huckabee from fox studios in new york city on this special memorial day edition of our show. of the 300 million americans there are 78 living among us who are a special breed. just 78 of them. they're not celebrities but should be. they're not wealthy by virtue of what puts them in this unique club they don't hold political power, they're not household names or included in a special fraternity.
because of their ethnicity, religion or educational pedigree. in order to be in this small number they had to do the kind of things movies are made of. and in fact often have been. they're the 78 living recipients of the medal of honor. our nation's highest award, for gall land tri above and beyond the call of duty. these are the folks who did what they did for what they did at great risk to themselves and acted to save others it's never froerpt say someone won the medal of honor. it's not bestowed because he or she sat out to on someone working. they have exhibited humility that is pro found. it was my privilege to honor the recipients sponsored by walmart. at a ceremony. walmart committed to hiring 100,000 veterans in the next five years. [ applause ]
and unless you think it's just some publicity stunt, walmart hired 40,000 of them in the first year and a half of the initiative. president george w. bush was the featured speaker at the event and he was honored at the event and delivered a heart felt and endearing message of appreciation to our nation's military members but the focus was on the 14 medal of honor heros present. each exuded greatness by virtue of having once been an ordinary person who answered the call of duty and did an extraordinary thing to save others every story of a medal of honor recipient is worth telling and knowing. you know, most teens don't they don't maybe know much about medal of honor. they know the first nfl draft pick. they know mvp of the nba or who has number one hit on the pop charts. i wish they knew these 78 men. and their remarkable stories. for every person who is a living recipient six received their
medal posthumously. one is colonel bruce crandall. if you saw the movie based on the book "we were soldiers once" you're going to see a helicopter pilot who flew into a red hot landing zone 22 times in one day. he started flying at 6:30 in the morning and didn't stop until 10:30 that night just to bring the wounded out and take water and ammo in. despite being told to stay put because the mission was too dangerous. unarmed and unarmored huey chopper flew into the battle because he took an oath to leave no man behind seriously. in utter disregard for his life he, along with his wing man major ed freeman were responsible for saving 70 lives during that one day. i wish american school children were required to hear this story
of the heros that bought their freedom with unselfish acts. i think a kid would do better to spend time understanding the price of our freedom, than spending more time with an x box or video game. look. i admire athletes and entertainers but they aren't heros they're just talented people who are very well compensated for what they do. real heros are those in uniform. some of them were soldiers once, and young. in 2011 dakota mier honored by president obama and defied orders and exposed himself to enemy fire to help save lives of 36 men and pull bodies of four others from enemy territory. that is so they can be returned home to their families. marine sargeant dakota mier joins us now.
dakota, great to see you again. thanks for joining us. [ applause ] >> thank you so much. >> there is a great story. before we get into some of these topics. you almost missed a call from the president when being informed of your medal of honor. how did that happen? >> well, we set it up at 11:50 on monday. and i was out, working. and you know, told them i had to call me on my cell phone. because i couldn't miss work. they wanted it open a land line and i couldn't do it. so they were arranging to it where the president would call me and supposed to call at 11:50. i waited until noon. 10:00, and it was late i went back to work. i heard my cell phone as i went back to work. >> you're the only person i met saying i'm sorry. i can't take the call. i've got a job i've got to get done. [ applause ]
>> they said -- i love it. it's a great story. it is. go ahead. >> they said that you know the president was tied up. busy. and i said, i understand i'm busy, too. i've got to. [ applause ] >> one of the things you've been focused on is helping people transition back into civilian life. you know? i quit using the term ptsd. the d stands for disorder people think if a person had trauma from combat they're forever unable to function. that is not true. people in a car wreck had trauma. people who have had a burglary at their home, they get over it. why is it that people think that the veteran has pts it's somehow permanent disability? rather than something they've got to work through? >> well, because what happens is that i believe they gather everything together. you know? if there is a shooting here, the
veteran will, obviously, ptsd. those things there they just hurt so much because you know, some people have issues before they come n i'm no doctor but you know, i dealt with pts. i know other brothers who have done that. and it's not about wanting to hurt other people. it's a guilt feeling of what happened of missing your brothers and trying to make sense of what actions are that you're saying. you stick your hand in the fire and you get burnt. you go, you watch people die. you're under stress of knowing you can lose your life in a moments notice. it's a natural reaction you know what i mean? and i tell people, you know, i look at ptsd like lice. do you know what i mean? >> that is well said because i hope people are listening to your message. there are a lot of employers that ought to be hiring veterans. what advice would you give to those employers?
who might be a little reluctant to hire a veteran because maybe they've heard a story that a veteran might come with some baggage. >> well, you know, look. look. veterans are, number one we talk about, you know worried about the next generation. you know this is an all . it was fall for over 12 years. it was the longest war. it was volunteer war. fought by all volunteers. and i just found this out. by less than 1/2 or less than half a percent carry the burden. and these men and women could have had a choice to do anything they wanted to. they could have had any job. went to college. any opportunity. it was -- they live in america but they chose to be greater people and to serve others i can tell you multiple stories. of what the sacrifice the men and women make.
it's amazing. they are amazing. you know, if you put word in the same sentence other than great to a veteran, then then you're doing a discredit. you don't know what you're talking about. [ applause ] >> but as far as employment goes. that's where i come at. i live by the motto of hire talent train skills the pull of the town of the men and women coming back, skills they just part of, you know, you know part of the military, they come back with discipline leadership skills. integ gret. and all kinds of personal management. you know? i know there is a lot of stress in the work place to be honest with you, they've dealt with stress there are not too many work places they've done it. >> they have. i want to thank you not just for
what you're doing now but for the heroic actions that you took, thanks for being one of the folks to give us reasons to love america, to appreciate veterans god bless you today. >> thank you. thank you. >> so you're a veteran. and you've got years of military experience now looking for work in the private sector. how do skills translate to a resume? what do you say in a job interview? answers coming up next. interview? answers coming up next. avo: waves don't care what age you are. take them on the way you always have. live healthy and take one a day men's 50+. a complete multivitamin with 7 antioxidants to support cell health. age? who cares.
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in the last segment, we heard medal of honor recipient dakota mier describe difficulties veterans face. when they try to join the workforce. my next guest is helping veterans transition to a civilian career. retired colonel john phillips. co-founder of the coca-cola veterans resource group written a book called boots to loafers also with us is grant mcgary. he made the transition through the program. it's great to have you here. and take a look at this. what is the most difficult thing a vet has to deal within transitioning into private sector? >> i think there is two aspects that are difficult. i deal with these on a daily basis. two things that are important. communications. both verbal, nonverbal. and cultural differences when it comes to different cultures and
countries it's a nonissue. because you're in the military. you're deployed all over the united states and world you know how to adjust to all of the situations and culture, but corporate cultures are different between military. and the corporate world. >> in what way? give me an example. of that culture difference. >> you know it goes back to communications side you know? military you get, someone talks to you, they're giving you orders it's clear what the mission is. there is no -- it's transparent. my experience has been you know in the corporate world, sometimes, you'll go to a native and come out of the meeting and go i'm not sure what happened here. i'm not sure what i need to do. and it's -- there is that difference. you have to get to the point where you can have to help translate that and ask a follow up question. >> let's talk about your transition. how did that help you? >> yes. hardest part is translating
these transferable skills and putting them onto the resume. i remember sitting this, just not knowing where to begin. >> i was a ranger team leader. >> okay. >> special operations. and you know it wasn't easy. that's what the veteran has to bring to the table is we had high attention to detail. it's stressful environments leading, everything that comes and confidence to make a decision and follow through and see it through. get the job done. that was hard to translate in the interview itself. because... interviewers never walked in your boots. they never deployed. they never, they weren't 1% that served. they don't believe you. so that is the hardest part and that is where this book, this
boots to loafer s book helps you to be able to put together a resume get to what you need going into an interview. >> book would be a terrific hand book. for anybody coming out of the military, looking to get into civilian life. you talk in the book transition, transformation. integration. there is a key point i want to you speak to. you make this comment you know more than you think you do. >> there is a second part to that. never sell yourself short. you know more than you think you do. i can tell you an example. i had to -- i'm in finance in the day job. a situation came up in the supply side which i'm not working in. well, i worked in supply 30 years ago in the army. and it was pretty much the same problem. so i had to reach back on those lessons learned i had from the military experience and apply them into the current day. like within a couple of years
ago experience and it's solved a problem. >> you do know more than you think you do. it takes time to dig down. it's not easy. >> when we say you know more than you think you do, we're talking about veterans not politicians. ij want to make that clear. [ applause ] >> thank you for being here. it's a distinct honor to have you. >> coming up, outrage over reported veterans affairs hospital scandal. my next guest says prisoners get better health care than our veterans. i'll talk to that doctor, next. fighting constipation by eating healthier, drinking plenty of water, but still not getting relief? try dulcolax laxative tablets. dulcolax is comfort-coated for gentle, over-night relief. dulcolax. predictable over-night relief
>> anybody who falsified the records at veterans affairs will be held accountable. >> the inspector general at the va launched investigations into phoenix va and other facilities families deserve to know the facts. once we know the facts i assure you, if there is misconduct, it will be punished. >> my next guest is a physician who's worked attitude four va hospitals and that witnessed some mistreatment. groin me is dr. greenley. >> you have worked in a number of va facilities when you heard these stories, were surprised by this? >> well, at the beginning, i was a little bit surprised because of the fact that when i initially started my training and a va hospital in baltimore, i got some of the most superb training there. i am a veteran.
but later on, when i started working as a contractor for some of the veteran hospitals i started to see some of the improprieties going on. and i guess when i treat patients i try to treat every patient like they're my own family member. if you do that, you can't get into problems however, it seemed as if in my own case, i would try to do top notch care. on some of my patients and my hands were tied because of the rules. and what went on there. >> why would there be rules? i don't understand that. >> it's not necessarily rules i believe that government workers because of the fact government insures these physicians and a lot of the health care workers. i believe a lot of the times because of the fact they're government insureed and not carrying their own malpractice insurance like when i was a contractor at some of these
facilities i had to carry my own malpractice insurance. but some of the physicians and people there didn't carry their own. so it seems they would let the government bear that burden. when i went in there, i wanted to give them the same care i would give to a private facility. you worked in four hospitals. i know you described some of the things you saw. >> i went into a hospital saturday morning. i didn't have to go in. i saw a post op patient. what i saw just disturbed me because of the fact that one of the patients screaming out in one of the rooms in pain. and he had surgery the day before. it was not my patient. before i get involved in a patient, so it's not ethical to over step the other physician. so i started inquiring. a nurse says dr. greenly will you from anesthesia? i said yes i am. she said they've been trying to get ahold of the physician, he's
been having pain. how long has it been going on? >> she said all night long. shut the door and he's just wrighting in pain. i said i'm going to break protocol and take care of this veteran. so i went into the room, and i said listen. what is going on here? he was a post heroin addict on methadone not told to bring it with him. i started looking at the pain >> you worked in prisons compare difference between prison hospitals and va hospitals who gets better care? . >> i trained at university of texas medical branch. we had a seven-story hospital prison there. i had to say i did see better cases in than i did in the va hospitals. now it wasn't -- >> it wasn't, i can't paint a wide band across all va hospitals but some were not up
to standard of care even in prison hospitals i have to say our prisoners are treated well in texas. >> that is disturbing. i appreciate the story. i think all of us are outraged when they think it's happening one location but more outraged if we think it's a systemic problem. krooses many of our va hospitals. i know there are good people working in them. there is something wrong when this many veterans are not getting the care or the quality they have earned. by virtue of their service. i appreciate your being here to give us some insight into it. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. >> coming up, one grandson wants to honor a grandfather he never met and his fight to make sure the men he serves with get the honor they deserve. all we do is go out to dinner.
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the deputies did not know about the postings on the internet until six people were dead and 13 injured. they visited him last month, they felt then that rodger posed no threat. i'm harris faulkner and now back to a special o'reilly factor. >> air force presented pow medals to airmen nearly 70 years after they were held captive. it happened just a few it happened just weeks ago. >> there are a lot of reasons for why allies were victorious in world war ii. >> the airmen carried out some of the dangerous missions of the war. chance of surviving without the shot down, captured or killed only one in four.
>> think about the courage to step out of the briefing room. walk on to flight line, buckle yourself into a v 17 or 24. knowing that the fighters and fear. they're waiting. >> many who were shot down found themselves in switzerland when attempting to escape they were taken captive. to the prison. >> they slept on lice-infested straw. sewage overflowed into common areas with no medical treatment available. there was solitary confinement. there was starvation. and mental terror. >> treatment no different than those in nazi germany but because switzerland was neutral ground these warriors denied a medal nearly 70 years. just a few weeks ago, the remaining eight survivors
of the remaining 130 prisoners imprisoned were able to witness injustice reversed the reason is in large part due to a 15-year fight by one man. army dwight meers. major meres grandfather was among internees held prisoner. in switzerland. thanks to his fight for his grandfather, all of the american heros are getting the recognition they deserve. [ applause ] >> remarkable story. >> a congressional amendment to allow them to be eligible for p.o.w.medal in national defense authoration act. in 2013. thanks to the hard fight of major meers. all 143 internees held captive in switzerland now have been awarded the medal. the eight are the remaining survivors. joining me is dwight meirs. his grandfather is one of those that posthumously received this
medal. [ applause ] >> major, great to have you here. i want to say i feel like i'm looking at you. when i see a picture of your grandfather. it's a remarkable resemblance. i'm curious how you became interested your grandfather passed away before you were born. so you never knew him. how did you decide you wanted to find out more about what he had done in the war? >> thanks governor my grandfather died in 1972. i wasn't born until later in that decade. and my grandmother remarried and lived in new jersey. so when i was at academy, i had a long weekend i would go visit her. and she had a propensity to say things perhaps she ought not to have. some of the things they said were interesting we were going through some of her things and
found a pair my grandfather's shoes according to my grandmother he walked out of switzerland into france wearing these shoe asks they were destroyed. almost completely unsalvageable. cracked, worn through soles. i asked about this and got a handful of information about how he had been shot down by germans and interned for almost a year in switzerland. >> when you started researching, >> what was the most stunning discovery you found out about your grandfather and these other guys? who had been interned in switzerland. >> my aassumption is that switzerland probably treated them much bet than in axis countries. where they could have otherwise been held. and in most cases that was true. there were 1500 air men ended up in switzerland who were interned when they tried to escape, however they were sent to confinement facilities where treatment was much more severe. . >> i think about the fact you never met your grandfather but
in a way you met him in a -- in a depth very few people will connect with a family member. you've got to feel a sense of fulfillment and a real connection to a true hero of the country. >> well, in some ways i've only studied combat experiences of my grandfather went through, only four years of his life. in other ways, i think i have, you know, researched on behalf of my family and other people really some of the defining elements of the men's lives. in terms of their service. and so, whether it's about my grandfather or eyes of other men i've talked with, i think that i have helped people come closer to their loved ones that is the most-fulfilling aspect of it. >> you've reminded us of the great sacrifice of many. who have served our country. thank you for your service, major. and for dedication to your grandfather's memory and all of those who served with him.
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these brothers in arms would find eternal rest side by side in arlington cemetery. >> they met as roommates at the naval academy in maryland. both from military families and became fast friends, sharing the same desire to be leaders serve their country and go to the action. after graduation, brendan trained as a navy s.e.a.l. travis joined the marines they went to different parts of the globe their friendship stayed intact. april 29, 2007, first lieutenant travis manyon killed in iraq trying to shield fellow marines. >> i was lucky enough to room with travis. at the naval academy for two years. in a short time he became another brother to me. he was a great friend. and i'll never forget him. >> the news of his buddy's death only strengthened brendan's resolve he completed his navy s.e.a.l.
training with honors, got marryed and deployed to afghanistan. three years later he and eight other warriors were killed in a black hawk crash near an afghan village. families of both men knew what had to be done, arranging for these two friends and heros to lay side by side in arlington national cemetery the president honored the two the following memorial day >> the friendship between the two reflect the meaning of memorial day. brotherhood. sacrifice. love of country. >> travis and brandan's story told in a new book brothers forever. written by travis's father. this is a remarkable story. when i think about these two boys, their friendship and the bond they have that is so strong the family said they need to be buried side by side, whose
decision was it to put them together in arlington? >> we lost travis in april, 2007. and you know your worst nightmare as parents n a state of shock. my wife and i. and you know you have just, weeks to decide where you're going to bury someone. and we, my wife wanted to bury him close to home. so she could be there with him. we came to find out afterwards that he spoke to some friends and family members and was serious about wanting to be in arlington. so we didn't get him settled there. we talked about possibly moving him down to arlington. we could never make a decision my wife was really just conflicted by it she wanted to visit him. but felt like he needed to be in arlington. we could never make that decision. worst thing happened we lost brendan. we went down there with brendan and his wife, amy. his parents.
and amy said that she wanted brendan next to travis in arlington. we said he's not there. but it was finally felt right for my wife she came to me and said maybe we should try to make this happen. and we got a lot of support from arlington and we're able to move travis down. we moved travis in and buried brendan next to him. >> the remarkable thing is that this is not easy. you had to exhume the body of travis make sure the graves could be together. my understanding is that this went up to secretary of defense, robert gates said make this happen. a lot of people moved heaven and earth to make sure that this could take place. did that give your family some comfort? and understanding these boys are actually still going to be together in death? >> well, it was great to see how everyone rallied around that request. whether in arlington, i think
it's secretary of the army makes the final call he did. and we got tremendous support to make it happen. both families were there. we knew it is about brendan. his day we buried travis the friday before. we told looneys it's going to be a quiet thing. sure enough, as painful as it to be for them they showed up and with us there, that day. >> these boys were inseparable as friends. what has it done for the families? you guys have experienced something of a bond of your sons? >> well, any time you lose a child, i -- there is nothing like that. so we certainly can feel what each other is feeling about those types of things we're close. the boys were so, so close. and it's difficult. you go through a grieving process there are a lot of things going on.
it's been a lot for us as a family. a lot for kevin and marina as well. >> what did you want america to know about your son and brendan that you felt this book gave you the opportunity to do? >> as the president said in arlington, their story is america's story. it's a story of brotherhood, friendship. these guys had character but would be the first to say you know it's not about that. it's about all that served we go out and talk to high schools about that we ask that question. high school students. we tell them, you know you can serve in honor of those that didn't come back, behind a hero. get inspired and make a difference with family, your community. at your school. and for your country. it doesn't have to be in uniform. get more connected. what better example than those guy that's have served selflessly for these many years. >> colonel, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> beautiful story.
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do more than a picnic or a barbecue or a day at the beach or the lake. thank god for your freedom and the men and women in uniform who provide it. i have got a good friend her name is martha cochran. her father was a world war ii she wanted to give the lesson she would never forget. she removed all of the desks from her classroom. the students came for first period and said where is our desks? you are not going to get a desk until you can tell us how to earn one. students suggested well good grades or good behavior. martha told them while they were very important it wouldn't earn them a desk. each period came and went and students were stumped as to how to earn a desk.
it started spreading around campus about the teacher who lost her mind. some called their parents some called the media. local television crews came to find out what in the world was going on. at the last period of the school day when no student had correctly answered how to earn a desk martha went to the classroom and welcomed a parade of veterans who walked in carrying school desks. as they brought in the desks and put them in rows, she told them you don't have to earn your desk, these guys already did. i salute great teachers and patriots across our land who honor our veterans. most of all i salute or veterans who earned me a lot more than a school desk. they earned me my freedom. and to them i say thanks, god bless you. (applause)
that's it for tonight. this is mike huckabee from new york. stay tuned for "justice with judge jeanine." >> welcome to a kelly file investigation. i am megyn kelly. it is an outrage and a betrayal for the risk we asked our troops to make. when may 2008 as obama ripped the bush administration over the story of an 89-year-old vet who reportedly committed suicide after being denied healthcare. the same tory is playing out but on a much bigger