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local teams. go pats. go whizs. you know what? it's a local thing. that's it for this "special report." no online show tonight. greta goes "on the record" right about now. at this hour, thousands of brave men and brave women from all over the nation and their families descending on the national law enforcement officers memorial right here in washington, d.c. they are all here. honoring the many fallen law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty. department of homeland security secretary jay johnson is here tonight as names of the fall rn etched into this memorial and the secretary will join us to go "on the record." you will also meet many of the brave men and women here tonight. meanwhile, about 140 miles north of here, late last night, other brave officers, firefighters paramedics, racing to respond to this train track derailment. the train traveling twice as fast as it should be 106 miles per hour where the limit was 50 miles per hour. so far in this train wreck
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seven killed more than 200 injured. fox team coverage starts with our griff jenkins. imrif? >> greta it was a scene of destruction. horrorring chaos when as you mentioned a train its northeast regional 188 traveling here in north philadelphia and 100 miles per hour in a 50 mile-per-hour zone. it happened just behind these department row houses is the tracks and there is a sharp curve as the train came around around 9:30. it went catapulting sending all six cars of the train off the tracks, causing a horrible scene killing seven, injuring more than 200. you see this amtrak vehicle in this alleyway, greta that is where the more than 200 injured and passengers came. it was a scene immediately the witnesses here told me that police first responders ambulances were quickly on the scene. we have video that was shot by one of the witnesses jose gonzalez. you may be seeing it here. you can see them tending to one another. one of the other
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eyewitnesses jose's aunt, actually told me that the most harrowing moment for her last night was overhearing a police officer crying saying to his colleague i couldn't save them. they're trapped in the track. so it was unbelievable scene, greta. and here is what another witness who lives just three houses up. ileana washington had to say to us earlier. take a listen, it was horrible. looked like the walking dead was coming out of there. not to be funny but give you a visual. it was crazy. the whole neighborhood pitched in. they helped out. the fire departments the police. everybody wag does a great job of helping these people. one person was so badly torn up. his whole face was bloody. i couldn't see exactly where it came from. they just wrapped his whole face and put him on a stretcher. so hopefully he is okay. >> the stein here amtrak workers. pulling out pieces of the
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track. the power structures that were damaged and a lot of neighbors out here there has been a briefing by the mayor. senators casey and toomey here. we have had all sorts of activity and, of course, the most important part, the ntsb doing their investigation. we still don't know why. we know a lot of details but we will learn more because we do know that the black box or the recorder box has been recovered so we can expect in the next 24 to 48 hours to learn more. greta? >> griff, thank you. tonight the ntsb reporting the train was traveling at least 100 miles per hour when it derailed. fox news peter doocy has more on that part of the investigation. peter? >> greta the one person with perhaps the greatest potential to help investigators figure out what happened here last night isn't talking. the engineer who was in control of 188 when it sped toward and around a sharp curve declined to talk to the ntsb today. at this hour, nobody knows why the train was traveling
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at triple digit speed when it was supposed to be going slow. the ntsb 106 miles per hour in a 50 mile-per-hour zone. we also learned tonight for the first time the emergency break brakes were used fully as the train hit top speed at 106 heading into the curve, hurdling away from downtown philly. the six whole seconds after the emergency brakes were hit, the train only slowed to 102. still twice as fast as allowed here. then there is news about the absence of a technology called positive train control or ppc which is designed to slow or stop trains that are going too fast into curves like this and which is going to be mandatory by the end of this year but was not in place at this curve to save train 188 and the seven souls we know of who perished inside cabin filled with a mix of professionals, tourists and students heading home from break which you would expect to see on this new york to philly line. we have seen several trucks
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carrying short stretches of new train tracks toward where the site lies after it derailed. greta, several new train tracks are not going to solve all of the old problems that we are now seeing play out. presented by amtrak's old infrastructure. back to you poorlt, thank you. can you imagine what it would be like to be expecting routine ride and then suddenly the horror. those who survived are talking about this terrifying ordeal. >> i heard like a big bang. it was a big bang. >> pushed me on to the side of the train. it hit my chest. i think i have a few fractured ribs. >> we have been seeing this a lot. those paramedics at work. those ambulances going in and out of here. loading folks up. >> i was standing there. i was seeing a lot of people. a lot of passengers coming out really badly hurt. >> i was in the wash room
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side of the car going north. i flew to the other side and landed on my head. the guy next to me was unconscious. i stopped him a little bit and got him up and then he was okay. >> i can tell you right now you are looking at a -- being used as emergency vessel, pretty much, when is something that is protocol and standard in these mass casualty emergency events. >> some people are looking for exits. other people are asking for help. and then some people had phones because it was very dark inside. >> all of a sudden you felt something happen and felt vibrations and this the train banged hard to the left and immediately to the right and everyone on my side of the train which is the left side of the train just flew over to the right side. >> a lot of people were just in shock. they couldn't believe what was happening. they were just crying and like didn't know what to say. i'm still like kind still feels like a dream like how could this happen? you always read about things or see it on the news a
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plane crashes a train derails so you never think it's going to happen to you. it did. >> i was scared, i feared for my life and that's it. what's important i need to go back to new york tonight. >> oh my god i just hope everyone is okay. i just hope everyone is okay. >> jeremy, a passenger on train 188 is one of the lucky ones. he is the owner of the restaurant group. he was heading home to new york. jeremy joins us tell me what it bass like. >> one of the crazy experiences you will ever have in life. i travel every week to d.c. i have a group of restaurants called fuel pizza there and we are building a kitchen which we have in new york and d.c. silver spring, actually.
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every week i kind of walk through the train once or twice to keep my blood moving and exercising. i kind of need some movement and i just walked up to the front of the train and i walked back and i sat back down and i was eating a slice of the pizza. and i'm talking to my colleague, daniel on the other side of the aisle and we're sitting there and i had my tablet out and my phone. the next thing you know we feel this big one a second later you feel this other bump and you know now there is a big problem. and i kind of look out the window because i'm now pushed to the window and the train is starting to bow or bend or twist and you hear metal crashing and third bump you knew we thought we were going over. my car did not go over. i was in the last car. middle of it and my car stayed up at about a
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30-degree angle and everything was fine, phones, tablets, purses, clothes. and couple women got thrown up above me directly above me into the luggage rack. and then finally, you know, you are kind of bracing yourself but probably way too late. and finally the train did come to a stop and everyone is screaming and you smell the burning rubber and you know you heard the metal crunching and things like that. and people, everybody got up and said everybody all right? daniel said jeremy and i said daniel. we started asking and i was kind of stuck behind underneath my seat. seats had turned. i was able to get out but i was kind of stuck. a guy who got up at this stage of the game fell over on me. two women down and just
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chaos o. we were in the last train. by the time i was able to get up. emergency door. we were evacuating it and then i had the scooter and i kind of left the scooter think iting i could be helpful with two hands. left the scooter in the luggage rack i walked outside and went to help people there were people there helping people. go to the back and help people out. i went back to where i was. we helped people out the door and then some early they started cutting the fence down in the field where everybody was coming down. they cut the fence down and everybody walked over tons of paramedics, policemen firemen. all the people in the train were trying to help each other out. it was a good feeling that we were all trying to help each other out. i couldn't pasta one train perpendicular how bad things were up in front.
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i figured they had to be worse. i have to tell you anybody who walked out of that train i thought was a miracle. i thought it was a miracle. everybody was alive, you know. the way the wreckage happened and we got out there. they finally walked us. and as we are out out there they are saying don't step on anything metal. dangling wires. live wires hanging from the electrical pole and they are saying don't touch anything metal it could be and you were right by live wires. it was just chaos and they said go this way and then they would say go this way. nobody is prepared for a train derailment. and they finally walked us through this field into this really poor neighborhood. and the people were so wonderful. these people, you know, went to their homes and brought out cases of water and i'm like can i give you money for the water and they are like no, no, no. they are like we will drive you, we will help you. come into our house. you can use the bathrooms whatever you guys need. and it was such a sense of
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community. that was the one good silver lining if there is such a thing. i have to say i'm so sad for the people who didn't make it and the people that are really injured. it's a terrible feeling. >> indeed, i mean, when i look at those pictures, jeremy, can i just see and my heart bleeds as well for those people. but i have got to tell you jeremy i'm down here at this police memorial. when i look at those pictures of the first responders, you know, it's unbelievable as well as how much they helped and good for you for making it through and helping people. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> and this train crash sending thousands of other travelers scrambling northeast corridor washington, d.c. to new york to boston and back carries more than 750,000 passengers each day between 8 states and d.c. in 2014, 11.6 million passengers rode through the northeast corridor that's about 1/3 of amtrak's entire nationwide ridership. 2013 saw about 31 million amtrak passengers.
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we will continue to bring you the news on the amtrak investigation tonight throughout the hour. we will take you live back to the scene as new information comes into "on the record." but right now, we are live. the national law enforcement officer's memorial and tonight 273 officers killed in the line of duty are being honored here at the memorial during a special ceremony. can you hear the music behind me. now, we have seen recently growing violence against police officers across the nation. the fbi says twice as many law enforcement officers were killed in 2014 than in 2013. and joining us is u.s. secretary of homeland secretary jay johnson. nice to see you sir. >> thank you greta. nice to be here. >> what does it mean to here tonight? >> it means a tremendous amount. i have friends here. i have colleagues. i have people who work for me who are out here. we honored those killed in the line of duty for customs border protection earlier today. their family are out here today. i see them out here. more and more we have to depend on local state law enforcement and overall home
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lap land security mission. it's important that i and other national leaders be out here on events like this. >> you know, it's so important for these policemen and the other law enforcement but when you see that some here from so many forces they are here from all over the nation, it's just extraordinary isn't it? >> well, what i'm going to say in my remarks tonight is this is like -- this is like a big family. when someone is killed in the line of duty, they all come together. they all show up. and that's true for the memorials, too. i believe it's important to remember that events like this we should honor and heros in law enforcement who are gone and those who are still can us. i plan to mention in my remarks tonight some of the remarkable acts of heroism that i have seen as secretary of the homeland security. >> indeed you have. stay with us. we have much more to talk to you about this law enforcement event right here in washington, d.c. tonight plus the growing threat of
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tonight, we are live at the national law enforcement officers memorial. this memorial features two 300-foot long marble walls. they bear the names of more than 20,000 officers. each has been killed in the line of duty. dating back to the first known death in 1791. in just the year 2014. 51 officers died. we are back now with homeland security jay johnson. last year you were up in new york. an officer was slain. >> yes. officer brian mooar. i was in new york and i
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decided to go out to long island to his wake. and it is kind of what i was saying before. any time you go to a cop's wake or right after -- the precinct after a shooting, they are all there they all show up. it's like a big family. it was quite moving. officer moore was not married. he was only 225. i understand he had something like 10 police officers in his family, including his dad. he was an officer's officer. >> it's tough tonight to look at the families as they get off the buses because they are coming to honor the mothers and fathers and other relatives who have died. it's very sad to see their loss. >> yes, it is. you want possibly know what it's like. no words that i could offer. and i know this from my experience in the defense department and now. there are no words that you can offer to console. but the message that we continually need to christopher is we'll always be there for you as a family. whether it's the department of security we will always be there.
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>> many are feeling bruised. like the american people don't quite understand the difficulty of their jobs. >> well, i think it's important to remember that a police officer a federal law enforcement officer is public safety. they are there to on a moment's notice to protect our lives potentially risk their own lives for somebody they don't even know. and they do that every single day. whether living or our fallen heros that we're honoring here today. >> we think about last night when that train crashed. maybe some were supposed to be offer -- off duty. ready to go. they don't ask anything. they just don't. >> they don't ask anything. as you know they don't get lavish pay but they are prepared to put their lives on the line at a moment's notice. >> which brings me to the other issue of isis in this country. front line of defense for isis many times is the police officer. law enforcement. they are the ones who are called out to fight for or othe fbi or any law enforcement. >> that's becoming more and
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more the case given how the global terrorist threat is evolving. that is correct. >> what do you say to them? >> be vigilant. be aware. be ready. and in the department of homeland security, what we're doing more and more is what we call vertical information sharing. vertical intelligence sharing. with state and local law enforcement. we want people in local law enforcement to see what we're seeing in terms of the latest intelligence picture. and so our intelligence unit in dhs spends a lot of time with state local law enforcement, police chief sheriffs, director comey and i had a video teleconference with police chiefs across the country last week to share with them the picture they are seeing. we think that's more and more important. >> what about the other day talking about the lone wolf. how does the police even begin to fight that lone wolf and factor in the internet where you have people who do the
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unthinkable that b become recruited for isis and they want to act alone here in the united states? how do you possibly fight against that? have r. very definitely picture not trained overseas. doesn't accept orders overseas. systems in place to try to track that but simply inspired by something they read on social media or in the internet and decides to commit an act of violence at home that's much harder detect and what i have been saying is that very often the cop on the beat may be the first one to actually find out about about a potential terrorist act. we are continuing to urge the public to come to events like this. large public gatherings. no one should be running and
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hiding in a free society where we have the right to associate, the right to travel, we want to continue to encourage the american public to come to large public events like this, to honor our fallen heroes. we had ve day celebrations last weekend. thousands of people on the mall. important to continue to encourage the public to come to events like. this some communities feel they are not getting a fair shake from the police. >> well, that is something that is a continuing challenge. i believe that our law enforcement community is incredibly strong, incredibly resilient. it knows how to learn from lessons of the past. and we'll move on. you can't have a community without public safety we move often and learn from lessons. tonight we honor our fallen heros. >> you are going to speak to
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them and honor them. i should tell you right over your soldier another bus has arrived with family members. it seems endless how many relatives. >> you will see thousands of people out here tonight. it's a remarkable ceremony. i remember from last year this is one of the more moving things i did as secretary of homeland security. so i'm pleased to be back here to give an address. >> it's fun to see them in uniform. they look very proud don't they? those police officers and they should be proud. >> i just have a great time looking at the patches to find out where people are from from and then eventually i find somebody from my hometown out here. >> which is? >> right now mont clair, new jersey. >> if there are any police officers mont clair knowledge watching he is looking for you. good luck in your speech tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> and former nypd police commissioner howard safer says the reason causing violence to increase in american cities. the commissioner is here next. all this stuff off. dish issues? improved cascade platinum...
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police? >> there is. unfortunately the pundits and talking heads are attacking police who are really doing a great job and using very small incidents to broad brush the entire police departments. >> and what role does the justice department play in this? do you hold anyone accountability like eric holder? does he have any responsibility? >> i do. i have known eric holder a long time. is he a good man. he has in this totally wrong. his civil rights position has spent more time going after police officers than criminals and that's wrong. they broad brushed the entire law enforcement community with saying they are brutal, they are racist. and they are totally wrong. it's just not true. >> so the new attorney general have a different attitude? >> absolutely. i know loretta lynch i worked with her police commissioner. she is fair she understands cops she is pro-law enforcement. i'm hopeful for a whole new era with loretta lynch as attorney general. >> as i sort of wove my way through this crowd here of
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you all law enforcement. many of them thanked me because we have done shows on police officers. we have been at the memorial before and done a he show. to me it's like i feel bad that so many are feeling bruised tonight. a little bit by the measure people. with all the publicity and put their lives on the line every single minute of every hour for us. >> last two weeks we lost brian mooar in new york. we lost two officers in hattiesberg, mississippi. these goods officers go out every day and put their lives on the line. this what you will is not black or white. this wall is blue. >> last night we saw police officers and first responders responding to that train wreck. pulling people out of the train. risking their lives. they don't care about being lit on fire. >> i don't believe any police officers set out to harm anybody. just the opposite. we want police officers who duty not adventure. >> i hope tonight is very somber and sad night but also a celebration of police officers. >> absolutely, thank you.
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>> thank you sir. >> and our next guest is a hero lt. heather civilly in march at the new orleans airport she courageously took down a man who was athletic people with a machete. police say the situation could have been even worse and that the suspect had a bag with six gasoline filled molotov cocktails and barbecue lighter and may have been planning to bomb the site. very nice to see you. i want to shake your hand. >> thank you very much. >> wow, what was it like? we saw that man with the machete. >> it was definitely a tough situation, greta. nobody wants to be in that situation as police officers our job and commitment is to protect and serve but you always hope to be able to avoid situations like this so that you can safely go home to your family each night. >> why do you want to be a police officer? >> >> if somebody was called to the scene of my home, i would want that officer to be there to protect and serve for my family. so it was just a natural reaction and instinct to be able to be there for others.
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>> so, as a child did you want to be a police officer. >> no. i definitely never expected to get into this profession i definitely wanted to go to school and do other things. it was a stepping stone for me and hopefully law enforcement can be the end profession but i will get some schooling and continue on and go on to bigger and better things as well. yes, ma'am. >> what's it like being here tonight and of course many people are very honored to meet you because you have protected a lot of people. >> i am very humbled and honored as well, greta it is definitely a joyous occasion the fact that i'm able to fellowship and join with colleagues all over the world, nations and countries and, you know, be here today to celebrate but it's also sorrowful occasion. nobody wants to bear witness people lost their lives dedicated to do each day. so many different representatives across the nation here. and just to show i wanted to
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know what the american people appreciate them too. in my experience with all my situation i had an overwhelming amount of support. strangers come up to me that recognize me from the incident and let me know that i did a good job as well as my fellow colleagues. i think while you do have some people who are discouraged by the things going on, you do have overwhelming support of people who understand that we are putting their lives in danger every day. they recognize and appreciate it. do you think there is a war on police officers? >> i think sometimes people don't understand, but i think that for the vation majority they do understand that we are here to do a service. they recognize it and appreciate it but which is on television sometimes showcases the minority i'm very honored to meet you thank you very much for
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joining us. >> nice to see you, thank you. >> and our live coverage from the law enforcement officers memorial continues. two law enforcement leaders join us next. plus, we are monitoring the amtrak crash investigation. that live report coming up.
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>> chief, you started the unity ride. >> yes ma'am. >> how many years ago? >> in 1997. >> what is it? >> the police unity tour is basically i feel is one of the most elite organizations in the country. what i mean by that is its officers from humble beginnings, 186 us in 1997 rode 350 miles from a few states to washington d.c. we came here and gave $18,000. it wasn't about the money it was about bringing education and awareness to law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty. supposed to be a one-time thing. it's 19 years later and we are continuing that same mission and goal to make sure that now to date 20,000 plus names on the wall will never be forgotten. the true his or hers are the people i rode with to i rode with. that they will never be forgotten but most of all they educate themselves on how we can stop putting people on that wall and also educating the public, our customers, the people we serve, the people we should be doing the best we can for. but most of all ultimately, we have to make sure that we protect each other and keep
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the honor and commitment and morality of what we do in such a humble way by making sure it's done with grace and respect. >> in general, do you think that the law enforcement is getting the respect they should from the american people right now? >> i think the vast majority of the people respect and aappreciate what law enforcement officers do. i think unfortunately the people that get the attention are the ones that make all the noise and say the most negative things. in my experience, that's the way it's been. i have been doing this for 22 years now. i think events like this and when i go to community meetings and communicate with them that we are people. we are your neighbors. we are somebody's son daughter husband father. that he we are not the monsters that people make us out to be and events like this bring that home. >> chief what's it like when the new names are etched into the wall for you >> it's like in any situation where there is death there is grief. you have to be able to honor them as well. and everything stops here tonight or after a funeral that you see on tv, it's the
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support that's needed afterwards. remembering and being there and understanding and making sure that their names their stories and what they have done for america is not forgotten. and there is over 900,000 law enforcement officers nationwide approximately. and in that there is a lot of good going on. they are taking care of people. quality of life issues. sometimes the most horrific things but in the same time they are still doing what they need to do each and every day. but all the officers that are on this wall and the ones that ride with me and serve over 900,000 know each day that they may not come home. that's what each day is about, that they realize it and respect it and come back to work each and every day doing that that's what we do. i think people support us. >> indeed, i mean, just last week in mississippi two police officers went to work and didn't come home. >> absolutely. >> unbelievable. gentlemen, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> i thank you for your service. and it's going to be quite a night here tonight. >> thank you for inviting us. >> and it is the families of the fallen law enforcement officers who actually suffer
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we're live at the national law enforcement officers memorial individual. tonight, hundreds of officers killed in the line of duty are being honored. their names etched on the wall of the memorial behind us. and joining us, former d.c. homicide detective and defense lawyer ted williams and former prosecutor katie phang. ted, i don't know. i just love talking to this police officer. this is going to be somber later but right now it's it like, you know, all the camaraderie and friendship. >> yeah, not only is there camaraderie and friendship out here, but, when you look around, you don't see what is in the media this black and white situation. you see the men and women
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who have served and protected us and they are in blue. greta, you just have to love what we see out here. >> just amazing. i should say that we have got some minnesota police officers behind us in spite of the fact it's not green bay. i have. you work day to day out with the police officers. you get to know them so well and see all the heavy lifting they do for the rest of us. how they protect us. what's your thought tonight when you think this is a big occasion but also very somber? they are going to add new names to that wall it was privilege and honor to serve alongside some of the best law enforcement officers in miami-dade and county when i was a prosecutor. i want to make sure it's clear we didn't follow them blindly. we worked alongside them and had our own independent judgment. and really if you think about it. there is no other acts of selflessness what law
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enforcement officers do on a daily basis greta. they don't know what they are going to encounter write a ticket. it's that type of danger that they put themselves in that a lot of people forget when they hear about the rioting and protesting that's happening under the unfortunate incidents happening across the united states. >> you know, katie and ted r. just heard me talking to the police officers. when they go off to work, the odds. >> no guarantees. >> greta absolutely right. when these men and women go to serve and protect us, they don't know what's going to happen any time during any given day when you look at this wall and all of these men and women here to honor and a sad occasion, solemn he occasion around this wall of men and women who died to protect us. >> katie brought up the issue of race here. it's african-american, it's
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white. you don't feel any division. these are all one team. these are law enforcement officers. you don't feel sort of the division that we, you know, that we tend to hear more about. i'm not diminishing the problems in some of these cities at all. i know that there are problems. there is also we have got sort of a balance against all the greatness of this. >> it's a great point that you and ted make because it's the unity of the oath that's been taken by law enforcement across the united states. and it's, i think it's wonderful that you have highlighted that during this amtrak disaster. during 9/11. the first responders were law enforcement. i mean, not to diminish the role of ems or the fire department but it was the police that showed up and they do it unhesitantly and it doesn't make any difference what the color of their skin is. that's what they do on the streets on a daily basis. >> thank you both of you for joining us. and this memorial features
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two marble walls and the walls will bear the names of 20,000 officers killed in the line of duty. it isn't just the fallen who we honor but we must also honor their families. you know, they have lost so much, the families. many of those families are here at the memorial tonight and they are paying tribute to their lost loved ones. now joined by marissa wife of fallen border patrol agent tyler. nice to he see i. >> nice to see. >> you very difficult night for you tonight? >> it's been a really heart felt night. and we're just honored to be here and to see everybody come and like you said, with everybody with the camaraderie with everyone. >> two children. who are your children. >> robledo. carlo and ethan. we are here to honor their dad today. >> tell me, how long has your husband been gone? >> he passed away september 12th, last year.
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so 2014. >> tough? it's been tough for you? >> very tough. >> have the other -- has law enforcement rallied to make it easier for you like family? >> yes, they have been -- pier support has been by our side by the border patrol since day one. they have stayed with us and really been very supportive and helpful. >> why did your husband want to be border patrol? >> that was his dream since he was little bitty. he was in the marines. he got out oof the marines and he went directly into angela state university to go to college and graduated with criminal justice and psychology degree. >> so tonight is a big night for your family? >> >> i'm glad the children are here so they can see how much we honor your father. >> i know. >> your father was a great man. he was a brave man. >> very tough. >> yes. >> any plans for the night? you are going to meet different people?
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>> right now we have all our family here. we are supposed to meet some former border patrol agents that he worked with his co-workers. hopefully get all the family in one little spot. but it's quite an honor to see all the fallen in one night. >> you know, it's actually an honor for us to meet you and to hear about your father. thank you all for joining us very much. >> thank you. >> and up next, we will take you back live to philadelphia for the latest on the amtrak investigation. the pursuit of healthier. it begins from the second we're born. after all, healthier doesn't happen all by itself. it needs to be earned... every day... using wellness to keep away illness... and believing that a single life can be made better by millions of others. healthier takes somebody who can power modern health care... by connecting every single part of it. for as the world keeps on searching for healthier... we're here to make healthier happen.
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welcome back, our griff jenkins joins us in philadelphia. griff, it's starting to get very somber here. feel the grief coming over the crowd as the night goes on and they are going to start the proceedings here. you are in philadelphia with police who are working so hard to help people. tell me what it's like with
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the police there. >> greta, let me tell you and it's ironic that you are at that police memorial because, just up the street, four -- no, two doors in from where this happened, can you see just two doors in there is a gentleman there named chris higgins. and he is very close to the police. he was wearing a police t-shirt because he runs a children's police recreational center. he said i hope you'll tell people the tremendous job they did. he heard the loud bang. he has lived here for many years. he has three children in the home. and it was literally a matter of seconds before police were immediately on scene and as i mentioned in the earlier hit. another example of the hard work of the police and first responders here is that another woman told me that the hardest thing for her about last night was the crying lieutenant who was telling his colleague "i wish i could save her. she was trapped in the
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track." i don't know who they were talking about and i obviously wasn't here. but clearly a tremendous response. i can tell you also the ntsb on site here. the board member, robert walking around, talking to all the media if you can just pan over there, you can see the ntsb guys. they are still here, too. they are here, greta. >> because everybody in the country and particularly here in philadelphia want to know why this happened. that engineer not obligated to talk to the ntsb but he certainly had some clues and ntsb wants to talk to them of course this portion of the track was significant because it didn't have the technology that could have been a governor of sorts to sort of stop it but again the tremendous response from the police, the first responders and the ntsb out here. it's getting colder. the sun is going down and they are not going to stop fighting and working as hard as you see behind me. >> well, let's all go off-the-record for a minute. last night about 9:30 p.m.
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i was at home relaxing. my work day was over. what were others doing? well look at this picture. this is in philadelphia some time just after 9:30. that is when the police got the word, jumped into action to help injured passengers on the the amtrak train that derailed. look at those police officers helping that man. they don't even know him. is he a complete stranger. but that's what police do. and last night in philly, they were helping all night long. and, of course, this picture, this is a quick snapshot and only of a few of the men and women in uniform who were there but it is a familiar seen -- scene and it does say a lot. courage and dedication. but, as we celebrate the police tonight and all they do for us, i must also show you this. the wall at the national law enforcement officers memorial. this wall has more than 20,000 names etched on it of officers who lost their lives in the line of duty. stunning isn't it? they were just doing their job for us. and that's my off-the-record comment tonight.
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thank you for being with us. we will see you again tomorrow night. right here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. if you can't watch live. use your dvr. we leave you tonight from the national law enforcement officers memorial. good night. >> the o'reilly factor is on. tonight: >> the truth of the matter is elizabeth is not a politician like everybody else. >> for saying that president obama is being accused of sexism by his own crew. fascinating story. we will analyze it tonight. >> human nature kicked in those people who -- they didn't care about anybody else. they were getting off that train. >> chaos after amtrak train derails in philadelphia. it looks like it was every man and woman for themselves. martha maccallum is investigating. >> this is what our strategy should be. we will look for you. we will find you and we will kill you. >> also ahead senator marco rubio on how he would handle foreign policy


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