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you're retiring soon maybe you can watch more fox news with your free time and actually learn something. the beauty of fox, class is always in session here even for slow learners like you. have a great weekend, everybody. following a victory against isis a daring ground raid against the islamic state in eastern syria killing a commander and capturing his wife who could be a good source of intelligence. troubling e-mails for hillary clinton. were foreign governments able to hack into that private e-mail server? and a new twist in the investigation of the deadly amtrak derailment. the fbi has brought on the case. agents trying to figure out if some sort of flying object smashed into the windshield seconds before the crash. we're live on the scene in philadelphia.
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thanks for spending your saturday with us. nice to be with you at home. >> you as well thank you very much i'm elizabeth prann. welcome to america's news headquarters from washington. fox news alert. breaking news in the war against isis. u.s. special forces going on the offensive. mounting a raid overnight into eastern syria. killing a top isis commander and can capturing his wife and rescuing a yazidi held as a slave. john huddy is live in our middle east bureau with the latest. >> elizabeth, this guy was pretty much the money man for isis. he's in charge of the financial operations the oil. he was also according to u.s.
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officials, a top military commander. so this is being call a significant blow to sis. u.s. secretary of defense released a statement about the raid. reading, quote, last night at the direction of the commander in chief, i ordered u.s. special operations forces to conduct an operation in al amir in eastern syria to capture an isil senior leader known as abu sayyaf and his wife um sayyaf. iz military sources tell fox news the u.s. army's elite delta force carried out that operation, went deep into isis territory in eastern syria. and we're hearing the commandos were air dropped in got into a heavy firefight with za aftersayyaf killing him and capturing his wife. all the commandos got out safely. an incredibly dangerous risky operation for obvious reasons for all the above reasons. it's also a critical development in the fight against isis at a
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time when the terror group is gaining more ground in iraq. isis militants took over the city of ramadi in western iraq anbar province after heavy fighting the last couple of days. ramadi is about 70 miles west of baghdad and is a strategic military location. so if it does fall to isis that will be a major setback for u.s. and iraqi forces. but the capture of sayyaf's wife could provide critical intelligence about isis about used human trafficking that she was involved in according to u.s. officials and maybe even the location of others including abu al baghdadi. a purported audio message was released from al baghdadi at least purportedly his voice, calling for muslims to take up arms and fight for isis. there are reports both he and al sayyaf may have been in communication. this is a major development in
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terms of the raid and the capture of umm sayyaf and of course the kill of her husband. elizabeth. >> all right, thank you very much. leeland. for perspective, we turn to john hanna senior counselor for defense democracies, former national security adviser to former vice president dick cheney. it sounds an awful lot like boots on the ground something the president said wasn't going to happen. >> it does lee lan, it looks like a shift in the u.s. approach. so far, we know special forces are in iraq. special forces have been training iraqis. they've been calling in some air strikes. but to have them in this kind of highly risky combat role. i think the only other place we've seen it inside of syria is when there's an attempt to free a u.s. hostage. >> attempted rescue of james foley, very different than doing some kind of snatch and grab operation. the other question i had was thank god everything went well here. all the americans returned safely. you could have ended up in a
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situation with dead u.s. special forces, tragic or u.s. special forces captured in the hands of isis. something that conceivably would have been a game changer. what is the decision that had to go on inside the white house to risk this much? >> either this individual is incredible intelligence value or -- >> he's not much intelligence value now, he's dead. >> he's dead now but we don't know what was in that house in terms of electronics, computers, telephones. >> so that's the decision not to use a drone? >> i think it's what you can get on the ground in terms of intelligence unless they thought there wasn't going to be another high value target with him or a hostage. >> someone like al baghdadi was going to be there, he didn't show up. interesting. as you look back on it was it worth it? you have his wife but that doesn't really seem like she was the one who held the family checkbook. >> at this point, i just don't think you can say. i don't think the wife is going to be high value. women have not traditionally
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played important leadership roles in this organization. >> don't really wear the pants in the relationship. >> are there things on his computers, his phones that begin to unravel the leadership network and go after thehese guys. this is a statement as well. the u.s. for the first time going in on the ground killing a high-value leader. the rest of the leadership now has even got to be more wary than before. >> let's continue on the idea of this statement that this is making. does this signal a real shift in u.s. policy or was this something that perhaps they were just waiting for the right intelligence to act on? >> my guess is it's the lack. this is not a major shift. we'll have to see. it would be an important shift not only to go in on the ground and have more combat operationss but this idea of even going in getting detainees. traditionally, we've had drone strikes. we've killed these guys. the obama administration hasn't actually wanted to take the risk of going in snatching guys bringing them back and interrogating them in some detention facility.
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we'll see what happens. >> we know the wife is in iraq. what do you do with somebody like this? terms of if you had grabbed him, do you turn him over to the iraqis? do you try to hold him? we know the president doesn't want to send him to gitmo. >> my guess is they'll hold him on the ground in the region. u.s. forces and interrogators will conduct the questioning. maybe in conjunction with a friendly ally force like the jordanians. even if she herself wasn't involved in the leadership is somebody at the home seeing them coming and going, knowing what their roles are in isis. so she could have some value for us. >> as you look at how this raid was carried out and you look at the decision matrix that the white house would have had to go through, is this something that president obama would have had to authorization specifically and personally or is is this something he said to the chairman and other folks, if you think you can get somebody go
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get him? >> i think the president was involved in this decision. he finallyeven if finally gave the green light to make this happen. it is such a diversion in direction for u.s. policy on the ground in syria it the risks, so high. the consequences could have been devastating. we could have seen another black come hawk down -- >> what we saw in desert 1, yes. >> i think this had to be the present's call. >> thankfully all the special forces we know have returned safely. obviously they didn't get the guy they wanted to alive. we'll see what intelligence comes out of it. thanks for your insights. elizabeth. >> leeland, now we want to hear what you think. what else should be done to fight isis in the region? you can send us your tweets 59 lelandvittert or or @elizabethprann. an update on the helicopter that went down in nepal.
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nepal's army says searchers have recovered all eight bodies. six u.s. marines and two nepally soldiers were on board. the wreckage found yesterday after days of intense searching in the mountains north of kathmandu. the helicopter crashed while on a mission to deliver aid to earthquake victims. egypt's first freely elected president is now facing a death sentence. an egyptian court handed down the sentence against ousted egyptian president mohamed morsi today. it was over his part in a mass prison break that took place during the 2011 uprising that toppled then president hols ni mubarak. at the time morsi was not president. morsi is already serving 20 years in jail after being convicted of ordering the killing of protesters back in 2012. today's sentence was now go to the muslim theologian for what they call his nonbinding opinion.
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there are growing calls for the irs to investigate the tax exempt status of bill and hillary clinton's organization. that quote, recent media reports have revealed the foundation failed to report millions of dollars in grants from foreign governments it accepted while hillary clinton was secretary of state. it also facilitated private business transactions between foreign entities and blackburn writes a prompt review of the tax exempt status is appropriate to determine whether it is acting in support of its charitable mission. sara westwood joins us. she's been following this very closely. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to start off, we don't have to go too much in depth, but we had heard recently there's been reports that foreign governments may have the capability of even hacking that private server. former secretary of state hillary clinton.
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does that pose as a big foreign policy threat? >> absolutely. one of the big concerns was it flouted private record laws. the bigger concern was the security risk. hillary clinton absolutely exchanged e-mails with foreign officials. would have then known that the e-mail address was not from a government server. could have made that leap on their own. there's so little we do know about the server. we don't know what sort of security measures were in place. we know even at the top levels of our government, the state department included foreign entities have been able to hack our servers. so the fact these e-mails were being hid onden on a private server is a concern. >> the server we know just this week in fact a federal court is requiring more information in
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regards to the communication between hillary while she was secretary of state and also the foundation. because some of those records have not been released. can you elaborate on that? >> there are a number of different outside groups that are suing the state department now in an effort to obtain those records. that's one way we might see these records come out, because the congressional committees doing this have not been successful in extracting them. they're trying to receive communications from some of hillary clinton's top aides like zuma alberdin and their communications with the clinton foundation. because their roles in orchestrating the donations and activities were crucial to understanding what hillary clinton's involvement was while she was in office. >> i want to shift gears a little bit and talk a little bit about the irs. we talked about it during the intro. there's a lot of attention this week. lawmakers are putting pressure on the irs to take more action and look into the tax filings.
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what can you tell us about what lawmakers are looking for? >> they want the irs to take a look at what the clinton foundation was doing and ensure that it was purely philanthropic. and that they do deserve their tax exceptempt status. gop lawmakers are motivated to do this because in past years we've seen the irs scrutinize conservative charities for a lot less. we have more than a dozen, possibly two dozen, lawmakers signing on to a letter that's going to pressure the irs into reviewing that tax except status of the clinton foundation and it gives some weight, legitimacy to these charges there were conflicts of interests going on. it's not just the media that's wanting this about. now we're seeing our elected officials take this issue up. >> i want to elaborate a little bit on the critics. we know foreign countries have donated to the clinton foundation. critics are saying that there could be a conflict there. can you elaborate a little bit
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on that? >> critics are saying because these big checks were flowing into the clinton foundation from donors and corporations and government entities that had interests on hillary clinton's desk that it could have ostensibly affected hillary clinton's decisionmaking when it came to those donors. they're saying how can someone write a $100 million check to a foundation and not be owed a favor. it's a major concern when hillary clinton was making these policy decisions that in some cases, did favor those donors and critics want definitive evidence that the proper protocols were followed that hillary clinton wasn't involved in foundation duties and so far, no one has come up with a substantive defense her noninvolvement. >> all right, great, sarah, thank you so much. leland. >> the heartland right now is bracing for some severe weather today. the storm prediction center says severe thunderstorms may be tornadoes, are going to be
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developing in parts of kansas, oklahoma nebraska texas as well. parts of texas remain under a flash flood watch. six to eight inches of rain have fallen leaving some roads flooded and a number of homes cut off. we've seen some dramatic rescues as well. to the north, large hail hammered nebraska. lightning flashed across the sky. as two-inch hail rained down. janice will have the latest on what could be a very dangerous weekend. also we're going to tell you how a town is rebuilding after a disastrous storm swept through nearly two years ago. >> and there's much more to come on america's news headquarters. passengers on a because see a nightmare unfolding. we'll tell you what had them so
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frantic to get off that bus. after more than 14 hours of deliberations, a jury decides on the fate of boston marathon bomber joedzhokhar tsarnaev. >> it is bittersweet. there's no winner today but i feel justice for my family so i'm grateful that the jury took it serious enough to be able to you know sentence the appropriate sentence. >> we'll hear from some of those injured in the bombing coming up. plus a new twist in the investigation of the deadly derailment of that amtrak train earlier this week. brian standing by in philadelphia with the latest. >> is it possible someone was thrown at amtrak 188 moments before it crashed? we speak to a passenger on a nearby train just moments before the crash who said he witnessed something thrown on his train. what he has to say and more next.
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the amtrak train crash investigation taking an unexpected turn. the fbi now part of the investigation and its focus, the train's shattered windshield. photograph showing it could be
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many impact from a projectile. >> the fbi specifically looking at the lower left side of that windshield of amtrak 188's destroyed windshield. specifically looking at a circular break that seems to be -- that could be the result of a flying object thrown or shot at the train moments before it crashed on tuesday night at about 9:21 p.m. ntsb investigators say an assistant conductor on board the train recalls hearing a radio conversation moments before the crash between the engineer and a nearby train, a local train's engineer saying they were both hit by an object. >> she said she heard the engineer talking to a septa engineer. she recalled that the septa engineer had reported to the train dispatcher that he had either been hit by a rock or shot at.
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>> if true it would mean that three trains were hit by -- reportedly hit by some object within the same area of the crash within a 20-minute span. now, the front windshield of that 729 local train along the same railway was hit, forcing the train into an emergency spot with 80 passengers on board. just moments before that passenger madison calvert witnessed a projectile hit the passenger window of his amtrak acela 2173. >> i was working on my laptop. i was just following up with e-mails. all of a sudden the crash. i quickly turned. didn't see what hit it but saw that everything to my left had been destroyed. >> this new revelation raises questions as to what kind of effect a flying object could have had on the engineer. he's been interviewed.
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he said he can't recall anything that happened during the crash but says he only remembered what happened moments before reaching the curve. now there are new questions. definitely as the investigation will clearly expand as to whether or not these potential objects had any effect on this train and what caused this train to accelerate to double the speed limit before it hit the curve. >> the ntsb announcement they brought in the fbi stunned those covering the crash of amtrak 188 and since then the transportation board spokespeople have said precious little about the so-called projectile theory and we don't have much more information about the other two trains struck around the same time. a former official with the ntsb joins us now live from boston. john take me through this. when the ntsb came out and said this train may have been shot
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at there was sort of this stunned silence that took the room over that was such a left-hand turn from where we were going that this was just a train going too fast. how do you connect those two dots? >> well we can't connect them right now based on what we know. but, you know, the deliberate process the ntsb uses in every investigation is they look at everything. so now they've looked at the communications between the trains. they've heard the conversations between the new jersey folks and this particular train. they see physical evidence on the train that something happened. and now they're going to run it to ground. now, part of the forensics evidence or forensic process, there's more expertise at the fbi than the ntsb. also an m.o.u., a men ran done of understanding, between the ntsb and fbi on how to handle this situation. it's not outside of the thoug process or purview of both
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agencies to interface with one another. >> we want to pull up the picture and the area on the left windshield they're looking at. how big of a deal is it? how significant is it for the ntsb spokesperson to all of a sudden say, oh by the way, we're bringing in the fbi? it seem it is as though for them to say that thief got to be thinking a couple of steps ahead here. originally they said oh we know about those other two trains that have been hit and didn't think anything of it. >> that's true. they are thinking a few steps ahead and it is unusual that they would take this kind of action. but it's not unheard of. so i wouldn't read too much into it just yet. trains are -- you know, people throw things at trains often. especially in the urban environments. also what's the impact of
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whatever was thrown at the train. it broke the windshield but what other damage? it does appear it would have very little to do with why the train was going at a high rate of speed. we'll have to wait a little bit. >> we know in the minute before the crash, the train sped up from about 70 miles an hour which was under the speed limit on the straightaway in that 60 seconds it went to 106 miles an hour. as you can see right there as it went around the curve and that's when it derailed. it's now in our animation heading through philadelphia as it speeds up and gets to where it derailed. any way for a train to sort of magically speed up or does it require a manual input to get going that fast? >> the normal course of events
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requires a movement of the throttle. now, with adding something in here with an object a foreign object hitting a train moving at 70 miles an hour so the investigation will determine and have to determine whether or not that foreign object could have caused a mechanical failure that moved this train to an uncontrollable rate of speed. it's way too early to speculate. >> one thing quickly, the issue of cameras. for a long time the ntsb has asked for inward looking cameras to look inside the cab of a locomotive that would have told us what happened. we know the engineer says he doesn't remember anything about that. why aren't there more cameras inside locomotives as the ntsb wants? >> well it's like airplanes. people don't want to be videotaped in what they do. i think we're at a point in planes and in trains where we need to either have robust
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recorders that record every physical activity that the engineers may make or have cameras to record those activities for us. >> we will see about that debate which is going on in washington. we know the train engineers union has come out strongly against those recorders that would have provided at least more information in this case. john gholia former ntsb official, thank you. still to come how much of a who to isis is the killing of one of its key commanders? plus -- >> take shelter. >> it hit something. >> time of year again for so many parts of the country. tornado season. we will hear one writer's inside account of a tornado that tore through her town. plus passengers on a bus look out the window at a terrifying sight. a freight train barreling straight for them. we'll tell you what happened.
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special forces deal a blow to isis. u.s. commandos carry out a daring ground raid against the islamic state in eastern syria. killing a commander and capturing his wife who the pentagon says could be a good intelligence source. what it means against the war against isis. the author of the lost spring, u.s. policy in the middle east. as well as the fox news middle east analysis walid phares. he wasn't necessarily a household name before but that doesn't mean he wasn't incredibly important. >> he was important because he's a high ranking official of isis in syria. he was in charge of the economic
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outlet the oilfield that is very important for isis. it seems his wife is as important. and the information both of them had now captured assumably by u.s. special forces is what is the most important. information is probably more important than both of them. >> at first you hear he has been killed and we have her. and i didn't know is she going to be an important source of information? how much is she going to know? >> from the decide of the operation, of course needs to be confirmed, it has been meticulously planned and executed in a very amazing way. no casualties. the person tracted. he had been killed because he was targeted for such a goal. but now the information is with her according to what what we heard right now and/or in laptops. we don't know. but what we assume it is it's about information, intelligence about the organization. >> going forward what type of impact does this have? perhaps it's an obvious question on isis on the terror organization? is this crippling? is this not going to deter them
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from carrying out terrorist acts? >> we're not going to see isis collapsing. isis is making advances approaching an important city in syria. it's captured part of an important city in iraq. so it's moved on the ground. it's going to deter isis from the same deployment they had before. they're going to be afraid. now they don't have those long caravans because of our air raids. now they'll learn from this operation. the other commanders in isis won't be as obviously in charge and as known. >> does this surprise you? the way it was carried out? in the hearing we've conducted, drone operations and strikes is not necessarily something we wake up and it becomes breaking news. now that we're seeing boots on the ground, it is unusual. >> these are very hesitant boots on the ground. a very exceptional situation. i don't think it's going to lead to a full-fledge invasion of isis. the policy of the administration is no boots on the ground at
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least in syria. if this is a successful tactical operation are we changing our strategy with regard to isis? are we arming the minorities? this is an exceptional tactical operation, but this does not indicate we are changing strategy so far. >> successful but risky? >> it is very risky. we had the best professional also in the world. i am amazed by the way this was conducted. just because we don't have troops on the ground in syria. so success, tactically risky of course but we have no indications the general policy with regard to isis and syria has changed. >> there was an yazidi woman whos would reportedly a slave to this couple. >> it sends two messages. number one, a message of hope now we are trying to liberate those elements. but also i would be concerned about the fate of other women. if we don't conduct a mass open rigs to free these women. we know most of them where they
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are. this will be the warning for the captures in other places to hide them away from us. >> so you're pleased with today's news? you thought it was a step forward? symbolically? >> only if it's the beginning of an operation. if it's an orphan operation, i would be concerned. if it's the beginning of a new generation. >> thank you so much. another weekend, another round of severe weather taking aim at america's heartland. meteorologist janice dean is in the fox extreme weather center. are we at the point where folks need to take shelter yet or keep a watchful eye to the sky? >> keep a watchful eye. we're pretty certain all the ingredients are going to come together for a severe weather outbreak including the potential for long-lasting damaging tornadoes across tornado alley. here's the radar right now. we have this low pressure center eswrekting from the rockies. all of this abundant gulf moisture.
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again, the potential for certainly hail very damaging winds and tornadoes. there are the temperatures. you see that warm unstable air mass in front of it. very cold air behind it. so cold we're going to see many inches of snow across the northern plains. a dynamic system. here's the severe threat today. a big area of potential destruction across the plain states. the red shaded area is the storm prediction center saying you know what we are concerned with this region. oklahoma city moore, wichita, up towards kerney. this is the potentially dangerous area of very long-track tornadoes. throughout the afternoon, into the overnight, people need to be on guard. then into sunday we are still going to look at the potential of severe weather. the other main threat from this the potential for flooding. saw the flooding video earlier today. over a foot of rain in some areas. in a very short period of time. more flooding potential in the
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next couple of days. as you look ahead to our tornado probability, this is the area we typically look this time of year for tornadoes. it looks like it's going to unfold again this weekend. leeland, back to you. >> you say may tornado probability, we're only halfway through may. a lot more to come. thank you. >> with the season of severe weather upon us it's more evidence than ever that tornadoes can unexpectedly change a person's life in the blink of an eye. nobody understands that more than the folks in moore, oklahoma a town hit time after time. national correspondent for yahoo! news holly bailey reaccounts the tale of destruction in her new book "the mercy of the sky." thank you so much for joining us. i'm about halfway through the book. and i love hearing the personal stories,jarring at times. i want to read an excerpt from
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your book. it was after you returned home in 2013 and you write, standing there, a terrible odor hit me. it was the smell of death. worse than new orleans after the hurricane. and i want to ask you, what is it like returning home and seeing your hometown basically destructed? do people really understand the destruction mother nature can cause? >> i covered the white house for "newsweek" for many years. saw the aftermath of katrina. i saw baghdad bombed out with president obama. but there's nothing like going to a place where you grew up and seeing streets you drove down as a kid and not being able to recognize things because they've been blown apart by a tornado. when i came back after the tornado in moore, i really had to steady myself and remember i'm there as a reporter but it
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was just very very upsetting. >> these pictures we're looking at you took these photographs. this is a up to where you spent most of your childhood. you commonly refer to storms past in your book. it sounds as if you were talking about legends. what is it like to grow up when every storm season or every tornado season comes around you're sort of preparing for what could be a devastating month and years ahead? >> well this is something that when you're a kid in oklahoma, you're raised to be weather aware. when i was a kid, my mother always taught me as early as i can remember to look up at the sky and see what it was doing, especially in the springtime because it can be a beautiful day and then just instantly turn into something bad. people here in oklahoma have learned to live with storms. in some ways, they love them they're beautiful, but they're cautious of what they can do to them especially every spring.
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>> i know our own janice dean obviously a very big weather aficionado. i know you had a question for holly. >> very curious as a meteorologist, it's my job to protect and let people be aware of the situation like a tornado, like we could have today across tornado alley. i wanted to know your research with the meteorologists that live in oklahoma and the sense that they have that they are, you know, very responsible for people's safety. >> think the meteorologists here -- i write a lot about how the weather coverage here is so unique. they do things totally incredible to protect viewers. really feel it is a public service. they take it quite personally. they feel anguished when people are killed. really if you watch them they just do extraordinary things to keep their viewers safe. it's really quite extraordinary. >> i only have a few seconds
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left. i want to ask you, how did growing up in this area how did it shape you as a journalist? >> i want to the east coast and covered politics my heart has always been back here. every spring i was just -- i've been in boston covering the boston marathon bombing trial. but every night, i'm sitting in my hotel room watching the weather coverage. really hoping that nothing bad is going to happen. back here in oklahoma my family lives here. they go through this every spring. so it's something that i really worry about. >> "the mercy of the sky." i can't wait to finish it. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> all right, coming up next some college grads in texas are getting advice from none other than former president george w. bush. there he is. we're going to tell you coming up.
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those of you who are graduating this afternoon with high honors awards and distinctions i say well done. as i like to tell the "c" students, you, too, can be president. >> some self-deprecating humor there. he gave the commencement address at southern methodist university in dallas texas. he spoke about the importance of religious freedom. saying quote, it's not your government's choice smu is home to his presidential library and it's also his wife laura bush's alma mater.
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>> that was the terrifying scene aboard a bus in atlanta. there was the collision. the driver was frantically honking his horn and passengers raced to get off in the bus as they realize that a freight train was barreling down on them. atlanta public transit officials say the traffic had backed up at a red light and the portion of the bus ended up stuck on the track. six people were hurt. one remains hospitalized with serious conditions. two questions, one, why didn't the bus driver open the door. what was the bus doing there in the first place? >> that video, just makes my heart stop. how powerless would you feel? you can take my money, i'm good. great. all right. still ahead, jeb bush's tough week. critics say bush botched
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a rising river is threatening a houston-area home. you can sighee the floodwater have eroded part of the front yard causing some worry that the home will be swept away but the people that rent the house say they aren't concerned because the house has been there for years and they don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon. better than me. >> operative word they rent the house. more than two years after the bombs exploded at the finish line of the boston marathon the man now known as the boston bomber has been sentenced to die. a federal jury didn't buy defense arguments that dzhokhar tsarnaev was just a kid who fell under the influence of his fanatic older brother. victims of the attack had mixed feelings, though about the jury's sentence. >> pretty much many days, you know trying to figure out what's going to happen and now this is pretty much over.
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and that's what happened so we very -- we pleased with what we hear and we are tired. we all tired this. so we just try to go back home and trying to figure out really what happened here. and move on with our lives. >> no one is celebrating. and if you ask ten people you'll get ten different opinions. but the investigators, the law enforcement officers and the first responders that day came together speaks volumes for the strength of this nation. >> tsarnaev was sentenced to death by lethal injection but he won't be executed for years maybe decades as the federal appeals process drags on. just hours before the jury handed down that sentence one officer who was injured with a shootout with the tsarnaev brothers got back on the job. massachusetts transportation officer richard donahue returned to work after suffering near
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we're here to make healthier happen. optum. healthier is here. thanks for staying with us. hour two of america's news headquarters rolls on from washington. >> yes, thanks. here's what's making news right now. the u.s. goes on the offensive against isis. delta forces carry out a daring ground raid against the islamic state in eastern syria. after a firefight a top isis commander is dead and his wife captured. we'll have a live report coming up. an army veteran steps in to save a dog trapped in a very hot car. cute dog. but if you're thinking he got a big thank you from the dog's owner, think again. now he's in trouble with the law. i knew there would be
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consequences but it didn't matter. i mean glass, you can get new glass every day, but she could never replace that dog. and fly like a butterfly and sting like a bee, well not exactly. mitt romney gets in the ring with boxing great evander holyfield going a few rounds for a good cause. fox news alert we are continuing to follow breaking news out of the middle east this hour. u.s. special operations forces army delta force has scored a victory against isis. commandos are home safe from an overnight raid into eastern syria after a firefight a top isis commander is dead his wife captured. the pentagon said he was killed while engaging u.s. forces dealing a huge blow to the terrorist organization. we are live with details on the raid. molly, what's the latest? >> this is such a significant
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operation with such high stakes such a high-value target and such risk u.s. special operations troops that president obama personally gave the go-ahead. that's according to a spokesperson for the national security council. u.s. forces went in to a site in eastern syria, tried to grab a senior isis leader and his wife. he put up a fight. he was killed and his wife was captured and is in u.s. military detention in iraq. according to the national security council, quote the president authorized this operation upon the unanimous recommendation of his national security team and as soon as we had developed sufficient intelligence and were confident the mission could be carried out successfully and consistent with the requirements for undertaking such operations. this operation was conducted with the full consent of iraqi authorities and like our exiting air strikes against isil in syria, consistent with domestic and international law.
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one former national security adviser to former vice president dick cheney says there may be additional intel that the u.s. can obtain from this raid. >> the question is when do they get -- are there things on himself computers, on his phones that begin to let you really unravel the leadership network and begin to go after these guys? and let's face it this is a statement as well. the u.s. for the first time going in on the ground killing a high-value leader. >> during the raid u.s. commandos reportedly killed several additional people around abu saif about a dozen fighters according to a reuters report. leland? >> molly live in the newsroom following this thanks molly. liz? >> thank you. and to further break down the breaking news joining me is fox news military analyst and four star general jack keane. general, thank you so much for joining us. for our viewers at home maybe
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they had never heard of him. how important was this kill and obviously the capture of his wife? >> he's significant. he's one of the top leaders because he's -- think of him as the oil minister and finance minister combined so anybody like that is part of the top leadership in isis. this will be a setback for isis. it won't stop the military operations per se but the mission was largely what we refer to as a capture/kill mission. the purpose is intelligence. to get him and to get as much as we can in terms of electronic devices, pocket litter bring that out quickly. we don't have a lot of time like we did on the osama bin laden raid and then interrogate the person. we were not able to capture him. he resisted. we had to kill 12 people in that firefight that took place. we got his wife. she'll be interrogated. that will probably be an intelligence gain. i'm sure we'll get something out of the electronic devices we took out there as well. >> is it safe to say it's uncharacteristic for this administration to carry out this
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type of a mission? >> we've been urging the administration for some time to conduct these types of attack on a more routine basis like we did in iraq and after stan. these are raids designed to kill and capture leaders and in iraq and afghanistan an overwhelmingly majority of these raids we kill leaders and as a result we got a valuable amount of information. this is a good thing we've done army elite forces delta on the ground doing this daring competent, same thing for the helicopter pilots the army 160th who also fly the s.e.a.l.s certainly they're to be commended for this operation. we'd just like to see a lot more of it. >> do you think we'll see more of it because of its success or is it too dangerous? >> no it's not too dangerous. the risk is measured by the quality of the intelligence they have and how much intelligence do they have and then they measure it. the commanders are capable of assessing that risk and they would certainly let their leaders know what that level of risk is. obviously here they felt they
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could do it cleanly and they did. >> but it's not an indication we'll see more raids like this? >> i don't know. i hope we do. i hope it encourages them to do more. we're not putting the kind of pressure on the isis leaders a's we did in iraq when they were al qaeda in iraq or the taliban in afghanistan. that would be significant if we were able to step this up and do this routinely. >> so that brings me to my next question. you said it's not necessarily crippling, but we're still seeing a lot of advancements by isis militants. this isn't necessarily slowing thel them down. >> isis is no way losing this war. they're on the advance in syria. they're on the advance in iraq. they're closing in on ramadi. they've got six neighborhoods and a government building and they're moving in on the oil refinery that they've been fighting for a number of weeks. this last week they conducted an attack north of baghdad and they've taken a small town again near the al assad air base.
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and in baghdad itself the terrorist attacks have increased over the last six weeks. the way i would characterize what we're doing, it's just not enough. not enough advisers. not enough trainers. not enough forward air controllers. not enough direct action missions like we just saw executed last night. not enough apache helicopters. not enough of our resources and our commitment and our resolve to bring this thing to an end so we can stop the killing that isis executes routinely. >> so what gives? what would give the administration incentive to put more effort in combatting isis? >> i think the killing that isis is doing on a regular basis i think should have been enough incentive. we're going to come up here on an anniversary in a few months of when we began and what are we going to show for that we've taken tikrit? and 5,000 militias were killed in that attack. they were failing.
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we introduced air power in that and isis fled. many of those isis fighters got out of there to fight again. they are fighting from ramadi and the oil refineries. we've got to do a re-evaluation of what we're trying to accomplish and what are the resources that are necessary to get this done. certainly there's not been enough arms and equipment to the fighters on the ground that we're trying to assist the kurds and the sunni tribes. listen this is a complicated situation. a guy like me sitting here in washington, d.c. can make this look easy and have simplistic answers. but the reality is any honest assessment of where we are you come to the conclusion that we're -- there's so much more that we have to do if we're going to win against isis. >> general, thank you so much for joining us. we'll continue to watch this. >> good talking to you, liz. >> thank you. >> leland? we don't have any dignifyty left there because we lost everything and even our holy places that we used to worship
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has been some bombed as you watched in the news we watch couple weeks ago. i would say the situation not that good. >> not good is an understatement. that was an iraqi catholic nun sister diana domeca of the dominican sisters who escaped isis' hold. the sister is the leading representative of a group of christians that isis chased from their homes. this week the sister urged the house foreign affairs committee to stop isis from committing cultural and human genocide as they've continued to do. what else should be done to fight isis in the region? can send us your tweets the show and they all go to the same place and we'll read them all and share your thoughts coming up later in the show.
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count them. at least 11 presidential hopefuls will address gop bigwigs tonight in des moines iowa the lincoln dinner is the latest cattle call for an ever-growing republican field and many of those at the dinner will spend the weekend crisscrossing the hawkeye state introducing themselves to the voters there. mike emanuel joins us from iowa where retail politics never goes out of style. mike what issues do the republicans there really care about? who among the candidates are scoring points? >> reporter: well we expect to hear from these 11 likely presidential hopefuls their vision about the economy and also an appeal to christian conservatives, obviously issues of faith are big here in iowa so you can expect some issues of life and religious freedom as well. we're here in west des moines this afternoon because the early favorite wisconsin governor scott walker is due to do an event speaking to 100 or so
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likely republican voters ahead of tonight's big dinner. at that dinner you will have 11 likely presidential candidates speaking to a group of republican activists from all across iowa. it will be difficult to stand out in such a crowded republican field but this is the biggest presidential cattle call in iowa so far this cycle and state party officials say much of the critical work will happen after the speeches. >> more importantly afterwards they're going to have reception rooms where they're going to bring food from home food from their home states someone is bringing ice cream and scott walker is bringing treats from wisconsin and you get to really go one-on-one with these activists and let them know personally why they think they should be the next president of the united states. >> reporter: we're hearing it's going to be great fun. people like scott walker expected to bring cheddar cheese from wisconsin to connect with iowa voters. we've heard rick perry is going to bring texas ice cream to try to connect with iowa voters. a slot of schmoozing after the
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speeches to try to connect with the critical activists who they believe will get up caucus night in january and make the case for why that particular individual should be the next president of the united states. leland? >> we hope the ice cream and cheddar cheese aren't put together at any point. the person who stuck out to me on that graphic of all 11 talking was jeb bush. he just said he's skipping the summer's iowa straw poll. now he shows up to give a speech at the lincoln day dinner. what kind of reception's he getting? >> reporter: well that's a great question. he was just in dubuquque, iowa he is ranking seventh in the early polling here in iowa. the decision to skip the straw poll this summer is controversial here. governor bush told some supporters a short time ago that his father started out in iowa as literally an asterisk and george herbert robert bush went on to win the iowa caucuses. he described himself as a grinder. says he's not afraid to work hard and he says he sees hard work as a virtue. he said his 2016 is coming
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shortly and a short time ago in dubuque governor bush took several questions on the iraq war issue -- >> i'm just -- for sure i answered a question that wasn't asked. i do have probably a 1 million questions. >> it was a great answer by the way. but it wasn't to the question that was asked. look i'm proud of my brother. he did what he thought was right. >> reporter: so governor bush trying to move forward after what people see as a misstep on the iraq war issue initially answering a question to megan kelly and then clarifying throughout the course of the week. a lot of people calling that an unforced error and surprised actually that he was not better prepared for a question that we -- he was due to get at some point. but he's clearly trying to move on. says he's going to work hard here in iowa this weekend. leland? >> as you note mike hasn't been a great week for jeb bush. we're going to break that down with our political panel.
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thanks so much for your insight. >> reporter: thank you, my friend. >> liz? ladies and gentlemen, introducing mitt romney! >> seeing is believing. that's former republican presidential candidate mitt romney sans his suit and tie but wearing boxing gloves and shorts. his spar partnering none other than five-time champion evander holyfield the event ralezing $1 million for charity vision which fights blindness in developing countries so it was for a good cause and he lasted a couple rounds. >> that may be more of mitt romney than i ever wanted to see. >> but the man is in good shape. >> he's 60 years old. a lot of grandkids. >> he looks that great. >> i hope we look that good when we're that old, there you go. there's a lot more to come on america's news headquarters a ride on a bus takes a dangerous turn when for some reason the
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check out this cell phone video as the situation unfolded on a california bus. the driver of that bus says one of its passengers threatened him with a pen. here's the aftermath employees at a nearby restaurant heard the co jumped in to help. we're not sure who that guy is. one of him swung his crutch at the attacker. was he the helper or the pen guy? another employee pushed the guy off the bus. so i guess the guy flying off the bus is the bad dude. the man ran away police caught up with him, though, and arrested him. >> what he was saying about people killing him and his actions ahead of time and waving
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things in midair we believe he was going through some type of mental health episode. >> never good thing to happen on a bus. police say the suspect is now in a mental health facility getting some help and may actually avoid criminal charges because of his condition. i wonder if the bus passengers got a refund? now to an unbelievable story of survival. you will no doubt remember the story of bryan stow. the san francisco giants fan was nearly beaten to death on opening -- on opening day at dodgers stadium in 2011. will carr is here with the story of his incredible comeback. will? >> elizabeth, stowe said he survived for a reason to stop bullying so on friday he went to a school near san jose california and he spoke to more than 100 students talking about bullying and how to prevent it. now, he says his attackers learned their behavior when they were in elementary school. >> i suffered severe brain damage as you can see from the scar on my head.
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you need to stand up to bullying. speak to an adult. lead by example with your own actions and words. >> and in stowe's words that seemed to have made a big impression on the kids. he told them that bullying is not only physical it also takes place on social media. his message really seems to have hit home. >> his story really inspired me you know to look out for bullying in more areas and stop it when it starts to happen. like bryan, if someone had stood up to those bulliesen whether they were younger it could have changed his entire life. >> stowe a san francisco giant fan was attacked from behind and brutal beaten four years ago outside of dodger stadium. his attackers both dodgers fans ended up pleading guilty and both are now serving time behind bars. last week one louie sanchez apologized for the first time but he was still sentenced for a federal weapons charge on top of
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serving time for stowe's attack. as for stowe he won an $18 million judgment against the dodgers last year and he now says his purpose is to make sure that nobody else winds up in a similar situation. elizabeth. >> wow, what an inspiring story. will carr joining us live. thank you. >> making. the best out of a terrible situation. more ahead on america's news headquarters. this pup pretty cute i might say is in danger and now the man who saved him is the one in trouble. we'll try to explain that. plus -- he hasn't even officially thrown his hat into the 2016 presidential ring but already some are saying jeb bush didn't exactly have a great week. a fair and balanced debate from these guys who are already talking coming up next.
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knowing what we know now, would you have authorized the invasion? >> i would have and so would hillary clinton to remind everybody and so would almost anybody that was confronted with the intelligence that they got. here's the deal if we're all supposed to answer hypothetical questions knowing what we know now, what would you have done i would have not engaged -- i would not have gone into iraq. >> that was the beginning and the end of jeb bush's very rocky week. it started with a rather straightforward question from our own megan kelly as you saw. he got a lot of flak for his answer. then said he misunderstood the question. answered it a few more times in an ever-evolving way and finished the week as our mike emanuel just reported with a lot of folks having a lot of questions not necessarily for him but about his kandzcandidacy. here is our panel to discuss it. one of the big criticism of jeb
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bush he's not been around for a while. the last time he ran a race was a decade ago. he's out of practice. is this the kind of unforced errors we're going to keep seeing? >> i don't think so. i think another way to look at this jeb bush answered more questions from the media last week alone that hillary clinton has done since heshe announced she was running for president. he wanted to say there were lessons to be learned but he didn't want anyone to think he was trying to be critical of the military and that clearly didn't happen. but i think what we saw out of jeb bush him going back out there and rolling up his sleeves last week he's a guy that can lead and i think his team and the candidate himself will learn lessons from this and will actually be stronger throughout the rest of the campaign. >> no matter what happens any candidate gets stronger and stronger throughout the primary season. the problem with jeb bush he is not his father and he's not his brother and his rusty at best. right? i mean that answer right there was an amateur answer and the fact that -- i think people really question his position on the war in iraq and i think all the other gop candidates are
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going to pounce on this and he wants to send us back to war. he sort of exposes the rift in the party. >> you bring up a very important point, though, when you say the word rusty. because there's someone else who a lot of people say is rusty is hillary clinton who doesn't answer as you pointed out questions from the press and doesn't sit down and get her hands dirty right now. is this sort of an omen if you will if you are a hillary clinton strategist that maybe keeping her so insulated isn't a good idea because when it's prime time we'll have incidents like that richard? >> i think it's the opposite. right now is the time to keep her quiet and i'm pretty sure she wants to talk and the team is saying don't talk because you can watch the republicans self-implode and as it continues on the right she can focus on a winning strategy how we make sure ends meet for working class families if she does that successfully throughout the country this is how she wins this election right? now 11 probably 12 next and 15 next month candidates running for office. >> what do the republicans do to counter this strategy that
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richard so wonderfully laid out? >> what, the hide-and-seek she's not going to come out and take any questions? i think as a democracy this process is good for us. it's good for our politics. it's good for the republican party -- >> how do the republicans take on hillary clinton's strategy right now? >> i think right now what republicans need to do is get out there and run on their records. jeb bush can talk about the 1.5 million jobs he added down in florida. i think that's the conversation republicans need to have and you'll hear a lot from now. >> richard loves talk about the record. >> yeah. i mean jeb bush's record is dismal at best. he's a guy who gave us common core. he's the guy that gave us overtesting of our kids and we can go on and on and on about the record for both him and his brother and if that's the record he wants to run on i say, hey, run on your record jeb. >> we're so early what does it say, though, now in recent polling all of a sudden jeb bush is going up and beats hillary clinton by albeit one point in the margin of error in a national poll all of a sudden? you look at that 45-44. and hillary's been the one who has been not saying anything.
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jeb's been the one who is getting beat up. what does it say if all of a sudden hillary is forced into the spotlight? >> i think if you're a republican you hope to see that happen. you want to see this debate and you want people to learn about the cand dats and run on their records and have hillary respond. i think it will help republicans as we get closer. >> if you look at that poll one, it's too early to look at any polls in the cycle and number two, jeb bush might not win his primary, right? >> he talked about that. >> he's doing really bad in his primary numbers and beyond that fact if you look at hillary clinton's polling numbers what you see is that amongst the base amongst democrats, hillary poll numbers are increasing tremendously which means she'll win her primary and this will be a base election and she can turn out her base and the republican base will become more splintered with all the candidates. >> we'll need both hands and feet. >> everything. >> our elbows as well. we appreciate both you guys and
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a musical sign of the better relations between the u.s. and cuba. last night the minnesota orchestra played to a sold-out house in cuba it's the first performance there by a full professional u.s. orchestra since 1999 and it comes just months after the u.s. and cuba announced a thaw in relations. the performance at the
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2,000-seat national theater was broadcast live in cuba and on minnesota public radio. leland? simple question and answer it honestly. later today you're walking through a hot parking lot. the sun is intense and inside a car you see with the windows rolled up a small dog. obviously in distress from the heat. so, what would you do? michael hammond of athens georgia, didn't take long to anxious that answer that question. he took the leg rest from his wife's wheelchair and smashed the car window and rescued the dog. >> i knew there would be consequences but it didn't matter. i mean glass, you can get new glass every day. but she could never replace that dog. >> powerful words. a hero. the local cops call him a criminal. they arrested him because the car owner was upset.
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we've got a criminal defense attorney from georgia and joins us now with insight. before we get to the right or wrong here give us the law in the case. >> well the law in the case is that right now there's no good samaritan law to rescue an animal in georgia. there is one to a child who is in a hot or cold car but at this moment there's nothing to protect animals or pets from the same kind of behavior. hopefully the law will catch up soon and there will be some type of law. >> what does michael face in terms of charges and what can happen to him? >> well he's been charged with criminal trespass which is a misdemeanor which means it's a crime punishable by up to a year in jail or $1,000 final or both. i think in this case, though the case should end up dismissed. criminal trespass requires a break in of property to gain entrance for an unlawful purpose. in this case there was no unlawful purpose. he wasn't intending to steal anything from inside. he was trying to save the dog's life. so i'm hopeful that the court will find that there is insufficient evidence.
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>> what does he have to do? does he have to go -- does he have to get a defense attorney and take this to a jury or do you hope that a da has some common sense down there? >> identify hope the da has some common sense. and this is athens which is a pretty big city in georgia so i'm pretty confident this case won't go very far. but if not, he needs a defense attorney and he needs one anyway to negotiate with the district attorney and hopefully, you know a jury of reasonable people will see his side on this. >> i think there's a lot of reasonable people who have heard about this story and i knew there would be consequences but it didn't matter. a stand-up guy. we appreciate your time and insight. thank you, ma'am. >> thank you. if you need a defense attorney maybe he can call you. thanks. eluiltz elizabeth elizabeth? just ahead as investigators continue searching for answers to the horrific amtrak train derailment earlier this week the red cross is stepping in to support those affected by the accident. we'll talk to the ceo of the red cross that's coming up next.
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as we watch the emergency efforts of putting rails back together in philadelphia it's hard to ignore the emotional damage which also is getting pieced back together. rescue organizations such as the red cross are on the ground supporting victims their
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families and first responders. judge rene cardwell hughes is the ceo of the red cross and she joins us live from philadelphia. thank you so much for joining us. i know you've had obviously a very busy week. we appreciate it. >> thank you. we're very happy to be here with you. >> now, just looking at some of the video and photographs coming out of the scene, it's jarring just for someone who is a bystander. i can't imagine being a vic tomorrow. how do you go about descending upon a scene where there is a disaster and helping out the victims involved? >> immediately we respond with mental health care experts as well as spiritual care experts and a logistics team. our initial goal is to bring a sense of comfort immediately. because as you might imagine, it's a disorienting event and it's an event that makes you feel very insecure and unsafe. our goal is to make people feel safe again very quickly, and that's done really by addressing very basic needs.
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keeping them warm. talking with them. giving them clean clothing. a tooth brush. listening to what they have to say is the most critical thing we can do. >> apart from the victims on the train, you know, i can't get the image out of my mind of that young boy with the picture looking for his father. so you do have victims who are not only injured but obviously deceased but family members. you don't really think about maybe right away that there are so many people affected. how you go about helping family members? >> you raised a really important point because there's the immediate response to this event which can cover a whole range of emotions. people may cry. people may be angry. people may be very stoic. but those related to the survivors as well as the victims' families will go through that same range of emotions and it will take time. so we work with them as well. it's really important for people to understand that a survivor's
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reaction whether that's a surviving family or someone who was in the crash, may not manifest for several days or weeks. and so we're still here for those families for the survivors, and they should not hesitate to reach out to us and we will help them work through these emotions. >> that actually brings me to my next question because obviously shock is your initial response even people at home looking at these shocking images. how long do you stay in contact with these families? are you always a resource to them? do you, you know, do you make yourself available, let's say, for a lifetime of therapy? >> a lifetime of therapy would be beyond the red cross. we would end up working with a partner organization to transition that family but for at least a year the red cross will be available. there are times when we're available beyond a year. what we do our goal is to ensure that the family has the most appropriate resource and
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so that may mean at some point that the family needs to be transitioned to another organization that can help. but definitely the red cross will be working with these families for at least a year. >> now, this must be very jarring for you, rene, how could go from disaster scene to disaster scene, you and the people who work for you have to stay strong and help these families out. what is that like? >> red cross volunteers and red cross staff are a different breed of people. my volunteers are the most amazing people. they're incredibly resilient but you do raise an important point. part of our responsibility is to work with them. one of the reasons that we ask for so many volunteers is that we have to rotate people in and out of disasters. since this derailment occurred we've also responded to over 30 fires in our territory. so every single day we need volunteers to go out. and the more volunteers we have,
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the less pressure that puts on any one person. some of these cases can be incredibly intense. we had a mental health expert who was with one family for more than three hours. so we have to give her a break after that. so that she can regroup and decompress. but we are very mindful of that. >> great. ren renee thank you for joining us. you can see more on your screen there and thank you for joining us. >> thank you so much for the opportunity. coming up we return to our breaking news story. our top story. u.s. commandos taking out a key isis leader. what does that mean for the fight against the islamic state? we'll ask texas congressman and homeland security member will herd. plus we are just hours away from the preakness. what is the derby winner american pharaoh's chances of taking the second race on the way to the triple crown? we'll tell you the bookies have to say coming up.
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pentagon officials say abu sayyaf was in charge of oil fields a key source of cash to fund isis' terror network. texas congressman will heard just returned from a fact-facting mission and he joins us now. what struck me about this this is a change. all of a sudden there are american boots on the ground combat operations in syria, no less taking on isis. >> i think this is a good development. we have to take the fight to them in their home if we're going to prevent them from coming to hit our shores. we need to eliminate them in syria and iraq. i learned on my trip our partners our iraqi partners have killed anywhere between 11 and -- >> they're still advancing. >> they are. that's why we need to continue operations like this. we need to make sure the peshmerga, some of the sunni militias are being armed so we can use our partners in these
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areas. >> this is something that struck me as interesting. i got a note from a senior former military official that still has a lot of friends in the special operations community. he said wait a second what's with the curtain call? why are you telegraphing what delta force, the most secretive of american special operators who may still have operators on the ground why telegraph to isis what happened here? >> well one, i come out of the clandestine world. it's a lot better when we do these kind of operations to not let your foes know it but also this puts them on notice that we are going to come for you. abu sayyaf is a senior guy. he's kind of like the cfo of isis and the intelligence that we are going to gather -- >> so it's worth telegraphing to isis that look we're coming for you and we're not afraid of it? >> absolutely. the way that isis is getting a lot of their recruits especially westerners is to appeal to this sense of adventure that you come into the caliphate and you will have an adventure but most likely what's
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going to happen is you will get a bomb dropped on your head or a bullet in your chest. this is another example of that. >> powerful warning. >> congressman, we are seeing a lot of reactions on twitter, people obviously learning this as they wake up this morning. one for example says more direct action raids, more arms for the kurds, increase pressure on all fronts. do you want to see more? are you echoing -- and are your constituents saying the same? >> that may have been a tweet we put out this morning. you know this is what we need to see. at this time more americans are more insecure than they have ever since 9/11. part of that is due to isis. part of it is the idea of iran getting nuclear weapons. we need to stop the fight there before they come to our homeland. >> do you find today's news encouraging? do you think it will become part of a larger trend? >> it is encouraging. i hope we do more. one of the things i learned when we were down there talking with folks in iraq and our turkish partners in istanbul is that we need better intelligence on the
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ground in syria. raids like this that gather that type of inform it and leverage it and we need to be doing more. we need to have better insight into what this threat is doing in their backyard. as long as we continue to allow them to have a safe haven to operate, they are going to continually be a threat. >> i want to talk to you about the intelligence that would be gathered. you have been involved in these kind of special operations in the clandestine service. we know the guy they were trying to get is dead. at least we think that's who they were trying to get. maybe there's a bigger fish they missed. we know they have his wife. women aren't really worth that much in terms of intelligence value because most of the time in the middle east they're not really part of the network. women don't often wear the pants in terrorist families. third thing though is all the electronic intelligence you could have gathered. what's happening right now with the delta force's safe house? they are bringing back all of this intelligence. >> we call it doc-ex. document exploitation. all of that information, probably most of it has been gone through. the electronics, the paper
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documents. he probably has a lot of information and we have learned a lot of information about how isis is getting money to fund their operations. we can possibly get information on he was connected with al baghdadi and what is the relationship there and what are future operations how are they getting money to recruit into syria. a lot of westerners that are coming in. this will be a lot of information that our men and women in the military are scouring over right now to feedback into our intelligence apparatus, feedback into the military to see if there's some quick -- some more quick victories we can get based on the information that we gathered. >> do you think we'll learn some more information, pieces of intelligence we wouldn't necessarily have gotten before? the public i mean it would probably stay secret i would assume. >> because you have our men and women in harm's way and in order to take advantage of this intelligence these bad guys
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because isis guess what they're doing? they're saying wow, what information was there, what did he know how are we going to have to adjust our tactics and techniques and procedures as well. >> is that why it may have been a better idea to keep this secret not take the curtain call so isis is a little more is our guy dead did they capture him alive, there's a couple dead soldiers here? why be so specific about what happened? we killed 12 he's dead we have his wife. >> in this day and age with isis managing their social media, their digital communications i think this was going to get out. i think this sends a good message that we're coming. we may not get you today or tomorrow but we are going to get you. i hope we see more of these types of activities going in the future. >> we did hear from general jack keene who said keep in mind they are still very strong. they are still -- >> big advances. >> big advances thank you. >> our partners are getting better. >> you saw that when you were in iraq? >> i did. i was surprised.
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but you know one thing we need to do better is work with our european partners. we provide them with a lot of information and intelligence and they're not checking that information against travellers in their country. we need to help them, make sure they help us in the fight as well. >> we appreciate you coming in. we know you will be on fox tomorrow with our colleague, arthel. we will watch for you there. if you have any thoughts for the congressman,@hurd on the hill is his twitter handle. thank you, congressman. we are just a little more than four hours away from the preakness stakes. it starts at 6:20 eastern time at pimlico race course in baltimore. it's the second leg of the horse racing's triple crown. all eyes will be on the winner of this year's kentucky derby, american pharoah, the odds are 4:5 favorite. he goes up against seven other 3 year olds. if american pharoah wins today it should set up a chance for him to take the triple crown at belmont stakes in three weeks. that's going to be a hot, hot --
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>> it's going to be interesting. american pharoah's odds have increased, shall we say. he was not the favorite at the kentucky derby when he made it out. what an amazing time it will be. >> america's special forces taking out a top isis commander in a daring ground operation in syria. breaking details on that and lieutenant colonel oliver north on the challenges we are still facing in the region. and another twist in the amtrak investigation. a cracked windshield leading to questions about whether someone was trying to hit the train. plus tracking shark and a twitter sensation. a fascinating new project that takes you from your computer to the depths of the ocean.


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