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merit-based. >> how many terrorists you catch? >> you'll be able to recruit people based on the incentives and talent like any public sector. republicans want us to privatize airport security. that's what we had at 9/11. >> that will do it. hello, i'm dana kimberly guilfoyle guilfoyle, greg gutfeld, bob beckel eric bolling. i don't want to put the cart before the horse. we don't have a strategy yet. >> but he's promised to destroy them. >> we're going to achieve our goal. we are going to degrade and ultimately defeat isil. >> degrade and ultimately destroy the terrorist groups. >> with our allies and partners we are going to ultimately destroy this terrorist group. >> isis has taken more
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christians hostage and threatening to conquer baghdad. meanwhile the president said he still doesn't have a specific plan. >> when a finalized plan is presented to me by the pentagon i will share it with the american people. we don't yet have a complete strategy and so the details of that are not yet worked out. >> the president blames the pentagon but general jack keen says the military has given him plenty of options. >> there were recommendations to do considerably more training than what we're doing in terms of numbers. that's a fact. secondly we wanted -- the pentagon wanted advisers down at the frontline. they've also recommended many more special operations raids than what we have seen to date. all of those recommendations have been categorically denied by the white house and the president. normally what happens when we have a national leader who wants to do something in terms of military intervention he tells the pentagon put together some options to accomplish my goal. and the goal as you stated was
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defeat isis. they would put together options based on the kind of risks associated with each option. he didn't do that. he laid out all the restrictions prior to there ever putting a plan together. >> it does seem implausible that the pentagon hadn't sent over plans in the last ten months to try to defeat isis or specifically if the president wants to be very specific about the training of the iraqi troops. but if that is what you're planning to have defeat isis then presumably the pentagon would have sent a plan. i think general jack keen has probably got some really good sources and there's frustration within the pentagon. because everything they send to the white house gets rejected. >> it gets rejected. then he blames the pentagon. so naturally they are frustrated because they are irritated with the president. they've put forward plans. he has summarily rejected them. now he's saying it's their problem that they're the ones who haven't come up with any ideas. because there's a disconnect with what the president actually wants to do. i don't believe that he wants to
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destroy and defeat isis. i think he's going to do what he needs to do and pass it on like charles krauthammer said to the next president 2016. >> listen to charles krauthammer. one of the concerns is that isis is gaining. we are 18 months since the fall of fallujah a year since the fall of mosul, ramadi was a month ago. charles krauthammer says baghdad is their prize. >> baghdad is being surrounded by ryeisis. if you were i significant you're not going to win it or hold it. but if you can penetrate the green zone you penetrate the u.s. embassy, kill americans, hoist the black flag over the american embassy even for just a day, you will have struck a blow against the united states that will be incalculable. >> i can understand how president feels like he doesn't have any good options here partly maybe even if they don't want to suggest or admit that there are decisions led to what
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we are currently dealing with. but he is risk averse. he wants to be able to solve this problem without any risk to american personnel. i just don't think that's possible. >> you can't win any battle sporting event, argument without taking some risk. and you're right. think about what he did when he drew the red line with syria. if syria uses chemical weapons on their own people we will take bashar al assad out. proof was they did. he ignored his red line. everything he's promised he's had to backpedal. what he's doing according to steve hayes last night, charles krauthammer, general keen the pentagon has a strategy and have given it to the white house and they're waiting for the white house to approve the strategy. he for some reason won't do it. whether you agree with the strategy or not, at least the process is in play for them to do that. what's the risk of doing it? hey, look the pentagon gave us the strategy.
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we're going to try it. if it works great. take the victory lap and say you did it. if it doesn't blame the pentagon. but the worse thing you can have are dead americans in the embassy and isis flag on the embassy. >> i don't think that embassy is going to fall anytime soon. that is a real fortress you have a concentration of power. my 11 assignments to war time iraq i never one time, not one time sought the iraqi army win a battle. they never won a battle. they are an incompetent organization. the more equipment you give them the more equipment will be turned over as they flee to isis. i think that you have ambivalence on the part of the president because there is no plan that can succeed without the blood and treasure of the united states being expended. so do we want to lose more american lives to prop up this artificial state? or will it be essentially carved into three different feifdoms
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shiites based in baghdad, sunnis in mosul and kurds in urbil. i think that's the real dilemma facing the united states today. there's no winning strategy that involves the iraq army leading the way. the dirty secret is egypt, jordan turkey saudi arabia are more comfortable with the sunnis of isis than the shiites of baghdad. >> so geraldo just saidambivalent. is that what the world need? >> how did hitler get away with so much for so long? you're right. it's a combination of ambivalence, of cold-heartedhat's based on ocean privilege. we're far away. it's not a problem. and a spineless bureaucracy that is too frightened to take risks. this plan by the way, is weighed down with restrictions. obama has loaded this mule with so many suitcases that the mule cab never leave. that's the problem. the fact is the world
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understands that our country could solve all conflicts with military solutions but we won't because we have leaders and we have a moral responsibility but we also have a political leader who is scared and who is raised on the idea that american force is the true evil. you have our adversaries around the world laughing at us. they're thinking if we only had their power. if russia had the same military power that america did, earth would be called russia. that's how they would -- they're amazed how reticent we are to act. we're watching christians getting slaughtered, executed kidnaped raped. you wonder how did hitler get away for so long? this is why. >> i think the only national interest we have with isis is revenge. i want revenge on isis. taking the heads off americans. i want to kill baghdadi the isis leadership. i want to continue to disrupt
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these as we do al qaeda. i make it so they never ever enjoy the fruits of their military successes. >> you've got a commander in chief that is at odds with everything that you just said. and his ambivalence is in his feckless foreign policy. [ overlapping speakers ] >> is he confused? is his political ideology in i think we always knew this what is he was going to do. i disagree with respect to what we can do in terms of military. it doesn't have to be blood and treasure which we respect so much. there are other means that we can achieve significant gains in that area and to have stability. the next fox news alert isn't baghdad falls. you say it's a fortress but did anybody expect the others would fall? you can put special forces operators there that can give real-time intelligence for better targeted strikes. there are things that you can do that are specialized. not just like blood the area with troops. >> the thing we can do is to convince the sunnis as we did
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during the surge that we will bribe them more we will give them more and better the sunni tribesmen than isis can give them. that's the only way we won over the sunni tribes during the surge. it's the only hope we have of getting -- i was in ramadi and fallujah. i saw pickup trucks full of dead gis. we can't go that route again. there's no sterile war. kosovo was the only one as far as i know where no americans died. it's very hard to conduct war where we don't die. and i just think what's the prize at the end of this? to have a corrupt regime in baghdad that is suppressing the sunni minority and the kurdish minority. >> we know the prize. that is the destruction of isis. what is the end goal of isis? an islamic state. >> caliphate. >> if they're seen as powerful they will get it. the only people that can stop that is hopefully our allies there but we have to run it.
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we're the only people that can run it. the less it's pushing back on everything we've been saying the fact obama didn't have a strategy. they're saying that was taken out of context. when he said he didn't have a strategy he was talking about training iraq soldiers. the fact is that is the strategy. if you don't have that you don't have anything in my view. it's like saying i didn't mean to mug that person. i just wanted to steal her purse. it's the same thing. >> yes. let's put this in context. we're talking isis 30,000 40,000 troops? that's what their numbers are at? you're right. we can wipe them out in a month. >> it's the religion. >> no. this is what i'm getting at. when you kill the 30 or 40,000 isis commandos, someone else becomes the next isis. it's another isis coming at you. >> i agree. >> whether it's sunni, shi'ite or if it's territorial, who knows? when do you stop? when do you say -- >> that's a strawman argument. then you look away when you see
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the beheadings? you have to fight evil. even if that means they're there's going to be more evil. there will always be evil. there will always be evil. >> so do we fight -- look. do you fight every single one of them? >> no. that's a false argument. you fight the ones that matter. >> as geraldo points out, you punish them you hurt them. you kill as many as you can. a lot of people i would agree with this do it the way they're doing right now. beat them down from the air. by the way, 24 air strikes or 21 air strikes in the last 24 hours. that's it? >> nothing. >> that's it? that's nothing. we should have 24 every hour for the last 24 hours or the last 24 days and then see what happens. look. who was it one of the other colonel peters who said we didn't worry about the lemonade stand outside of hitler's wherever he was hiding when hitler was taken out. there's going to be collateral damage. deal with it. but kimberly's point, you put american boots on the ground even if they're advisers or just
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keep doing what you're doing. hammering them from the air. maybe it works. >> it isn't working. >> we need people on the ground to tell you where you're hammering. that's a fact. >> i don't disagree with that. but is it training kurds? >> so there are things. >> requiring david petraeus. >> busy prosecuting him. hundreds turn out to protest a police officer's actions at a pool party in texas. others are defending him. there's new developments on that the story. we'll vet next.
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. did a police officer use excessive force at a pool party in texas? hundreds of demonstrators marched last night to protest corporal eric casebold's conduct after video showed him drawing a weapon, cursing at teens and pulling one girl to the ground. since then he's been placed on administrative leave. the father of one of the teens at the party thinks the officer should lose his job. >> the fact of the matter, this officer recklessly attacked the young lady who was following his
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instructions to leave. this guy was just out of control. he should be drug tested then fired. he shouldn't keep his job. >> but not everyone thinks the officer was in the wrong. here are two witnesses defending casebold's actions as necessary. >> he was the first officer to arrive there. i mean it was chaos when he arrived there. i think he kind of had to match that situation with a good amount of aggression to kind of calm the crowd down. >> i don't believe it that police officer came out there with the intent of throwing a 14-year-old girl down and starting this. this is not ferguson. this is not baltimore. this is not trayvon martin michael brown or eric gardner or anything like that. >> this one is very, very interesting. because there are a lot of issues a lot of moving parts to this. let's bring it around the table. no one wanted to talk about this in the break. everyone holding it close to the chest a little bit. around the table. >> come to me first. >> your thoughts. >> great.
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look. i think unless you were there you're not going to 100% know what happened. what i'm interested in is hearing multiple different opinions. so if you can get a chance to talk to everybody who was at the scene that is willing to come forward and make a statement and you're able to see if you can get all the different videos that people had cell phones, then i buy. it looks like there was a very chaotic situation that, the officer was trying to control the situation. i'm not 100% convinced he needed to pull his gun. i don't think he's going to get fired because i don't think it's a situation this is a guy that's just i'm going to go out here and point my gun and go psychoat a bunch of kids. >> cops have a tough job. sometimes it takes you being tough, man handling some persons. let's call them that. >> that wasn't a perp. a 14-year-old girl. >> the guys lunging towards the officer. >> she was a perp.
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>> not her the guy lunging at him. >> this wasn't life-threatening. the cop, i love cops. i think you have to walk in their shoes to understand when they use violence. michael brown in ferguson a classic case. you weren't in that car to have that hulking young man reaching in to grab your weapon you wouldn't understand the cop shooting his gun. a young teenager the father of three, i have to say is very very unprofessional. i think he should be reprimanded, suspended for a time maybe reinstated. >> what about the racial complaint? he had a racial lawsuit against him. not saying this is about race. but the cop that has had some checkered past. he beat that kid. >> you injected race into that. >> that was the charge. that's the history between this particular officer. i'm saying you don't take your gun out unless it's a
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life-threatening situation. >> dana your thoughts. >> i agree with kimberly. you don't know what it was like on the scene. we see the video him pushing her down i understand the from us traction on the part of the father. >> there were other people running away, grabbing them bringing them back there was alleged fights property damage jumping the fence. there were more than just the 14-year-old girl there that could be considered a perp. >> the big point here this is a pool party that happened 50 miles outside of dallas okay? it's a national story because camera phones have now eliminated the local story. this could have been a nothing local story. but because it's being filmed now you've got millions of people talking about it when in fact stuff like this happens all the time. you break up pool parties. 92 people are killed every single day in car fatalities. what if we filmed every one of them? no one would drive cars. >> we will be soon. >> let me finish my point.
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we need an idiot middle ground where we have to be honest and say, kids can be idiots and cops can be idiots. i think he could have died it back when he came in and he didn't dial it back. that's his problem. maybe the kids were out of control. that's their problem. but why can't we just agree that this is a stupid pool party where there are people being idiotic and let's move on. let's not bring protest. >> because this guy might lose his job. >> maybe he should! >> hold on. stand by. now this becomes this mentality that it's okay to rumble with cops. don't listen. do whatever the hell you want. >> i agree. >> doesn't matter. i don't care if she's in a bikini or full camo dress like gi jane. listen listen follow instructions have respect. >> agree. >> you won't be in all these problems. and with respect to the gun, it's not about girls gone wild the girl on the ground but about the two guys charging at him. he's following procedure and holsters the gun and turns back to the girl. [ overlapping speakers ]
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>> i'm not saying that. he was trying to run towards her. >> what about the kids running towards instead of running away? >> i'm not going to what if. i'm saying there's police procedure. >> how about this? why do we have to take sides? why do we have to decide? i'm for the cops. no i'm for the kids. >> you are. >> it's an opinion show. >> greg you're absolutely incorrect on this. i did not take a side. i defend law enforcement quite actively. i said last night he made the mistake -- >> i'm talking about today. i think the guy overreacted. and -- >> you know the ironic thing? mckinney is the number one place to live in the country, to live in texas according to forbes and all these other. wonderfully integrated upscale. >> not anymore. >> there is a section with section 8 housing. apparently some of these kids came from public housing. they were told be about the pool party at the community pool a
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private pool with twitter and social media. you're going to get a lot of that. >> who was a member of the pool? >> the girl he jumped on was a member of the pool. >> they're wrapping us. we had a sound bite from reverend ronald wright who injected race completely into this. when we come back violent crime is surging in new york city. but "new york times" says don't blame mayor bill deblasio. plus baltimore could break its own records. they're on a pace for a new ominous record. details coming up.
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football. in new york city from january to may we've seen an 8% jump in rapes over the same time last year as well as a 18% rise in misdemeanor sex crimes. pretty bad. prompting the "new york times" to defend mayor deblasio who quote has been prey to a tabloid narrative that has insisted the city was returning to the days of "taxi driver." to hear that phrase has been prey? amazing only in a times article on rape is the mayor the victim. how does that happen? but this gap shows the media's chosen bias regarding sex crimes. when discussing campus assaults it's always an epidemic even if the numbers are exaggerated. in new york under a progressive mayor you explain a rise in these attacks as a sign of progress. it's true. the paper's nonalarmist view that the crime wave is due to an increased reporting of rape. it's possible but unproofable. how do you know how much rape goes on if it's unreported? all you can go by is the jump in reported rape compared to before. and believe me it's jumped.
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this is just a theory meant to explain away a stain on deblasio's reign and an excuse only afforded incompetent progressives. when rape rises one would normally rage. but under a leftist it's seen as progress. well done gray lady. betrailing women in the service of ideology. when the numbers go even higher how will you hail that then? >> kg you're kind of an expert in law or so you claim. >> well documented. >> what about this theory that okay when the numbers go up it's because people are reporting it more. how can you know that if it was unreported before? >> exactly. it makes no sense. they clearly have an agenda here which is to try and help deblasio. he does need a lot of help. this was horrific -- one of the rapes you're talking about the woman so badly beaten by 13 gang members. i'm very familiar with that gang having been on a gang task force and prosecuted those gang members. there is no way you can explain
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it away or say it's due to some kind of reporting error. the problem is there are real issues right now on the streets of new york they think can also tie in in part to stopping stop and frisk. >> hergeraldo, conned you apply this mentality to the police incidents we've been watching the last two years that it's a sign of progress that people are seeing them and they're reporting them because they have cell phones? you could use this logic on anything. >> well i know that stop question and frisk to kimberly's point, the abolition or the gross de-escalation of stop and and frisk has led i believe almost directly to the spike in murder. now, is there a comparable analogy when it comes to sexual assaults? i don't know. i don't think so. but you know i think that it can make a point. and if the leaders of the pba are correct and the sergeant's benevolent association are
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correct, the police are feeling a bit demoralized. they don't feel comrade mayor deblasio as they style him in the tabloids the "new york post," they don't feel like he has their back. commissioner branton, today, the police commissioner came with a very lusty if i could use an unfortunate add verb there. >> passionate. >> passionate defense of the mayor and said that the spike in violent crime in murders particularly is insignificant, particularly when compared to baltimore which as we know -- >> was not a fair comparison. but look at baltimore. >> it's so much worse there. >> chicago, baltimore, l.a. detroit. >> they're saying burglaries are down dana. by this logic they could say people are reporting the burglaries less. >> do you remember when president obama came in right after the financial crisis and he comes up with a big spending program and they come up with a phrase jobs saved. it's unprovable. but the media totally ran with
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it and said he saved so many jobs. there was never a number but it was a way to say oh, well it would have been worse without it >> yes. >> i don't think branton is just defending deblasio. he's defending branton. these numbers will reflect on his legacy as well. >> he's in a bit of a bind. eric they often call this an uptick. >> i think it's a little bit of the demoralization of the police force, thank you, bill deblasio for the whole issue about talking to his son of color if he's ever confronted by a new york city police officer how to handle it. you demoralize the police. you embolden the bad guys when they see all the finger pointing at the cops so you have that as well. then maybe it's some of the gun laws. new york city is of the toughest gun laws in america. people know it. they understand. >> people are raping because they don't have guns because women don't carry guns? >> women should. >> your solution to crime that is everybody should have a gun. >> not a bad one.
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>> it will make crime go down. >> totally unprovable. i'm glad you brought it up. >> there's a city in georgia where they required house holds to have a gun in the household and the numbers went completely apart. straight down. robberies, violents assaults on all levels. >> there are plenty of towns in america where the 4-year-old has shot his 2-year-old sister by using daddy's gun. >> this is not the ok corral. >> let's point out eight days into this month 13 people have been murdered in baltimore, breaking may's record. is this due to more reporting? >> so that's what it is. stop talking about the murders and we won't know they're happening. and then we can all just live in a bubble that isn't reality. this makes no sense to me. it really doesn't. and i want to go to your point about the police officers. when you shame your police department and law enforcement, my goodness and you take away
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the effective tools that they need to police these communities and keep them vibrant and safe where the economy can thrive and people can send their kids to school? this is what you get. there's no excuse for this. because guess what. we've had the benefit of history. we know what works. and stop question and frisk is legal in the united states of america. >> can i add not only shame in new york but in baltimore instructing the police to stand down when they see violence happening. that's got to be demoralizing too. maybe that's part of the reason the spike in crime. got to move on. last week the times failed to take down marco rubio with a pathetic story on traffic tickets. now paper thinks it has another scootch that could actually help the presidential candidate next.
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the "new york times" is apparently upset finding anything they can get on marco rubio. today it ran a story on the 2016 candidate's finances taking apart his spendings habits could signal to voters that rubios struggle with the same kind of money issues as the majority of americans like student debt and mortgage payments. geraldo, what do you think? is this something that humanizes him or hurt him? >> let me just talk about the "new york times" first. there is no doubt but that the newspaper of record so called has its favorites. you can tell the way they refer to people. if they like you you're the reporter geraldo. if they don't like you it's a reporter geraldo. they know how to stylize itting to cheerlead. they've decided marco rubio is not the guy he likes, a renegade that has a chance to take down
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hillry clinton and doing everything to chop him up. i have my own problems with rubio but it's not his college loans. >> first of all i think you're going to end up actually helping marco rubio. last week we heard about the traffic violations. turns out that i think he had four of the 17 they were talking about over 15 or 16 period. that's a pretty darn good driving record. so it ended up helping them. then they come out with this worrying about his finances. there was forensic accounting going on. had his net worth at 0 in 2000. by 2008 had his net worth all the way up to a whopping $53,000. theory here's a guy if you want to take shots at marco rubio find another way to do it. it isn't his lavish lifestyle. they show a picture of his house, modest house. picture of his boat fishing boat. marco rubio's boat would flip over. >> "new york times," this is their quote.
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he splurges $80,000 for a luxury speed show the. show the picture. again viewer disclaimer this is not actually marco rubio's boat but one that resembles it and is the same make and model. what do you think? does this look like big time? >> it's not a luxury boat in the lexicon of the yacht clubs where i am sometimes allowed. >> it was hillary clinton's boat they would say that's a charming little dinghy or something like that. >> life boat for the republican rollers in the republican party. bill the business man that you are, eric wouldn't you worry about him being president if he can't finance hismanage his own finances? >> i don't begrudge marco rubio. i begrudge the harry reids and the other hundreds of senators and congress people who make 174 grand a year and end up with $53 million by the time they leave. >> like the presidents of
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mexico. >> whatever. >> i would say this helps rubio but with another reason. these stories were going to come out, anyway. better to have it now in june of 2015 when nobody is really paying attention to the election by the time the election actually comes around if he's still in the contest this will be old news. >> but this is all they got? shows he's one they're concerned about. >> a little bit of boredom and laziness on behalf of the media, yes. >> so with no one's perfect for rubio it's finance. for bill clinton it's no pants. fishing boat in terms of water offenses that's not chappaquiddick. he's the perfect anti-politician. he didn't try to fix his tickets and didn't try to get any sweetheart loans in order to pay off stuff, unlike obama rubio has no tony rezco, long time political benefactor that helps you out. the "new york times" goes after a guy who paid off his student loans, marco rubio, while publishing a jackass named lee siegel who told people to
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default on their loans which is basically telling people to ruin their credit. so that's idiotic. the finalis if you're rich you're evil. but now if you're poor you're just pathetic. so what's it going to be? >> and republican. >> and making bad choices because the boat was too expensive. as if the "new york times" has any bearing or say on what people should buy. >> what would you do if your wife got 14 of the 17 speeding tickets? >> get a driver. >> i'm a hypocrite. i let my license expire. it's my fault because she's been driving me around. >> you'd be like flirt better duh. >> who cares? you want this ticket? >> if i don't want a ticket take my shirt off. >> no one wants to see that. the development on the intense hunt for two escaped prisoners. a female prison worker is being questioned. did she help them? ahead.
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we're just getting this fox news alert. we're hearing the mckinney texas corporal eric casebolt has
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resigned from the police department as he has been intentsly criticized for drawing that gun on the teenager. so he has resigned. where this goes from there -- >> per reuters. >> reuters is the source. reuters news agency. >> the german fellow. so it is raining and miserable, the height of black fly season in upstate new york where it is day four in the search for two extremely dangerous prisoners who drilled their way out of the maximum security prison up there. the latest reports have police converged on a town about 30 miles away from danamore where the prison it on a tip of a possible sighting. two witnesses say they came face-to-face with the killers. they told their story to good morning america. >> the one guy had a guitar on his back. the guitar case. >> a guitar case. >> a black guitar case. >> guy look at him. ski him what the hell are you doing in my yard? get the hell out of here. and he was like sorry, i didn't know where i was. i'm on the wrong street.
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>> cops have also confirmed they have questioned this female police worker joyce mitchell the lady who ran the tailor shop there where she worked with these two convict, saying she may have helped them break free. do you think, kimberly that she did? that she snuck the saw in a pie? >> i don't know about that. but do i think they had help? for sure. do i think if they're releasing this information she was probably involved and assisted them in some way? sure seems like it otherwise this information would not be out there. so i've seen this happen even maximum security prisons where inmates are able to gain the favor. can't believe the things they do and say of somebody they consider to be susceptible to their charms and influence to try to get them to help whether it's -- jail break is a big deal but also to get favors privileges or help conceal stuff in their cell slip them in items. this does happen. >> this couldn't have been inside the cell though.
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someone had to cut -- look. they cut through two cells that were adjacent cells. >> right. >> into a 24-inch steel pipe cut through that two of them. i got a hunch maybe it didn't happen frommed in the cell. >> more people involved. >> so they cold break their way through the cell and get out. those are big saws they would need. >> don't you think it's strange to think they went through this elaborate scheme to get out, to cut out, they got through the steel door got through the mortar and bricks cut through the sewer pipe cut open the manhole to escape and not have somebody waiting for them to help whisk them away someplace? >> i would imagine that the desire to be free and to be out of jail is such that maybe you would try to get out and not have a plan on the other side. but this is so -- their thinking is so far away from me i can't really put myself in their shoes. >> way to cover for them. where are you keeping them? >> in your basement.
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>> yes. >> among the others. getting crowded. >> do you think they would lash out at the people who snitched them out or go to mexico and drink margaritas. >> they're very dangerous. they're going to kill anybody. it takes years and years to plan an elaborate escape but all you have is years and years. it goes hand in hand they have been doing this and it was well planned. and i can't foresee this ending well. i think that they're going to kill their way out of this or get killed. >> you can't kill your way out. you can get killed. >> yeah. >> suicide by cop. but the whole thing about the femme fatale. >> when i prosecuted that dog case they worked their charm on her and she was helping them run essentially an illegal dog breeding business aryans
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breeding dogs for the mafia. out of pelican state prison. you can't get more wild than that. >> this seems most like that situation in pennsylvania with the survivalist. one more thing is up next.
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it's time now for one more
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thing. and greg is first. >> it's time for greg's robot news! all right. been going all over the place on the web, these pictures of these poor robots falling over. i want to talk about this. because people are laughing at these robots for their clumsiness. laugh and laugh and laugh. this is all a cover. the robots want you to think that they're incompetent in order to kind of lull you into a false sense of complacency? is that the word? and then they're going to take over and enslave us all and we're going to have no choice. ha ha ha. look at that. you know what? he's laughing at us right for. look at this guy. is had he going to fall over? yep. they just keep falling over. >> how did you find this video? >> i didn't really find it. somebody found it for me. >> you have robots that find it for you? >> yes i do. >> you've been watching too many "terminator" movies. >> not enough. last night i was doing something sensible with my time
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which was watching greta on the record. she had somebody that caught my eye. he is an openly gay g.o.p. candidate by the name of chris cafalas running for the senate in maryland. he's got a very impressive background. he also talks about mosby and how they handled everything in baltimore which i agree with. here's this young g.o.p. hopeful on the record last night. >> you are openly gay. is the republican party have a bigger tent on those issues now? >> well i think we're in a good position to run a different type of republican campaign in maryland and win. people want to see someone pro economic growth pro jobs and moving our country and state forward the best way possible. and it doesn't matter who i am. >> he makes a case well for himself. is this somebody exciting to watch for the g.o.p.? >> there were three gay candidates in 2014. john boehner raised over $1 million for him.
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>> you wrote about this. >> on i did. >> nice plug. eric. >> okay. so after 26 years of marital bliss there's terrible news from the world of marriage. marge and homer simpson will be splitting up. splitsville. >> oh, man. >> the simpsons al jean told "vanity fair" today that next season they are going to break up that. prompted whoopi goldberg to tweet this. she tweets "what the hell? homer and marge are separating at 26 seasons" so i went back and read the comment they made. not sure that's a sexist thing whoop i just tweeted blaming homer. discovered after all the years homer has narcolepsy. they separate and marge falls in love with somebody else. >> i'm going to blame marge, not homer. >> geraldo.
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>> vincent bugliosi died over the weekend his family confirmed. he wrote the best-selling real lifetime book of "helter skelter" about charles manson. i interviewed manson here in san quentin. >> why did those girls murder for you? >> they didn't murder for me. >> you told them to. >> that's not reality. reality is they did what they did. they're responsible for their own actions. i'm responsible for my actions. >> ever kill anybody? >> i've come awful close a few times. i ain't lying to you. if you think i'm lying to you wasting my time and your time. >> bugliosi proved those people killed for manson. this is called "the end of structures" i had a chance to
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read it. these are fox news contributors as well. i think you'll probably like the book. you can't miss it. set your dvrs so you never miss an episode of "the five." that's it for us. special report is next. this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier in washington. we begin with national insecurity here in the capitol city at least for awhile today. both the white house and the capitol were the targets of phoned-in bomb threats this afternoon. a senate hearing on the tsa's latest security troubles was suspended and the building cleared. a short time later, the televised white house briefing was cut short and journalists were ushered out. but it was what did not happen at the white house that raised the most questions. correspondent doug mcelway has the latest tonight. >> reporter: while the white house press corps was making a quick exit from the briefing room the president wasn't going anywhere. throughout it all he


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