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rt," fair, balanced and unafraid or are you? >> in the now not ever. >> greta goes "on the record" right now. "special report" online begins in four seconds. big trouble for baltimore city states attorney marilyn mosby. at this hour a crisis in confidence at the baltimore police department. and brand new calls for mosby to step aside from prosecuting the case against the six baltimore police officers. now, they are charged in the arrest and death of freddie gray. so the critical question: is the relationship between the baltimore police and states attorney mosby in complete meltdown? "on the record's" griff jenkins confronted mosby in baltimore. >> ms. mosby can i ask you a quick question? cops have said you don't have their back. what would you like to say to them? >> i'm not going to comment on that. i come from five generations of police officers. that's absurd. of course i have -- i work with the police department we rely on the police department to get these
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violent repeat offenders off of our streets. that's absurd. >> there have been calls for your recusal, you have given any thought to recusal? >> thank you. >> and "on the record's" griff jenkins joins us. griff, she wasn't particularly chatty with you. >> she wasn't, greta. i disagree with her. it's not an absurd question. she says she doesn't want to litigate this case in the media. she has undeniable broken relationship between the states attorney and police department. at a time when the gang violence is spiral out of control worse than it has been in a half century. that was a time for her to say something to rank and file cops who are speaking thought multiple news channels in newspapers saying we are afraid if we do our job we are going to go to prison that is a very serious issue right now up there. >> she seems to think that if she comes from five generations of police
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officers that somehow absolves her from doing her job which is to repair the deep wound that she has inflicted on the police with some of her statements. >> listen, i'm not denying her the right that she comes from this generation. but what is in play right now is the fact that she or the report that she that she told the police to work gang violence specifically in the area where freddie gray was arrested and now six officers are charged. and they are trying to do their jobs. the news conference she was at today going after gang members in a joint federal local task force operation. that's still doesn't address the fact that cops are afraid to go out there and get the most violent criminals off the street tonight. >> she on the run. told the police freddie gray to ramp up and make sure you police the area. didn't come out right then.
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clearly something she didn't want to come out. >> any time she talks at the media or talks at somebody she is not doing interviews and people are calling for her to step aside on this case. she must be feeling the heat. >> as you saw she didn't want to talk to me about the drum beat that's getting louder for the reciewstles. you know, if you look at the whole thing including the autopsy report, which she refused not only to release to the media but also to the police to do their own parallel investigation it's hard to see anything as someone who comes from five generations of police officers, it's hard to see anything she has done supportive of them. and that opportunity that i gave her today was simply to say something to the thin blue line and she chose not to take it. griff, thank you. is baltimore states attorney marilyn mosby on the defense? you going b. to see griff's interview again but first we will show you what happened just moments before our griff jenkins spoke with her. >> we all know he in
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baltimore city it's a very small number of individuals that are defining the perception of our city. those are the individuals that are responsible for the majority of the crime we have been highly and highly effective in targeting those individuals. that didn't just happen overnight. we sat down with the police department, when i took office i have been in office for six months, we developed a comprehensive process in which we started targeting these individuals, that's the reason why you have public enemy number one who is now facing life plus 24 0 years. that's why you have the public enemy number two who is now facing life plus 50 years. that's the reason why you have a five time serial rapist who was breaking into people's homes raping people knife point gotten off four times in the last he three years now facing 31 years being incarcerated it had everything to do with the collaboration with my office and the police department. we will continue to go after these violent repeat offenders and continue to work together to do so. >> ms. mosby can i ask you a quick question, rank and file cops have said you don't have their back, what would you like to say to
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them. >> i'm not going to comment on that. i come from five generations of police officers, that's absurd. of course i work with the police department. we rely on the bliss department to get these violent repeat offenders off of our streets that's absurd. >> there have been calls for your recusal, you have given any thought to recusal? >> thank you. >> thank you. >> the "on the record" legal panel joins us, former homicide detective and defense lawyer ted williams and katie phang. she certainly will take credit for the arrests that were made and congratulations to the police for making those arrests in baltimore today about those gangs. she will take credit for that but she sure doesn't want to talk about her relationship with the police. >> i know, poor griff. i heard the crickets when he is asking her questions. when she is asked a question he self-serving and self-promote she has no hesitation basically running her mouth. what's interesting is when she says i'm not going to comment instead of sticking with that idea that i'm not going to comment when she said that to griff she kept on commenting she said it was absurd and said she came from five generations of police officers. one thing i wanted to note,
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greta, and ted is today when the ruling came out or excuse me when the state's response to the demand from lt. rice's lawyers to get more specifics about what happened, the state's attorney's office had the nerve to put into a pleading that the possible jury poll should not be tainted by what is basically put on to the public. she is basically saying we are not going to put anything in the public. i'm going to talk to the public anyway when it's self-serving. >> is she just way over her head? obviously she injected the politics into this in the beginning. and she has been very clumsy. almost like she is over her head. >> i'm somewhat sympathetic to ms. mosby. >> why? >> i think because we have seen a great deal of inexperience on the part of ms. mosby. she may have. >> she should step aside. >> she may have come from a generation of five generations of police officers but guess what? if ms. mosby wants to be fair to these police officers and i don't know
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whether there they are innocent or guilty, but she should step back from this case. i think a special prosecutor should be appointed and i think she should recuse herself. she is too close to this case. >> there is a bigger problem besides just this case, ted. i have gone to baltimore with griff and talked to police officers. you have been there they feel like a substantial number of them feel like she is against them. that is her job is to repair that. and she is doing nothing about it but all she says is that i am from five generations of police officers as though that's some sort of like she can do whatever she wants insult police officers and ruin the relationship. >> greta here it is, saying and she doesn't realize it that these police officers, she needs these police officers in the community. and she doesn't have their back as she said and quite naturally, these police officers don't feel like she has their back. >> so what happens katie? >> well, the one thing i would say about what ted just said is it's not that she needs these officers in the community. the community knees these officers in the community. so she is basically
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breaching the duty that she owes to the people of baltimore. if she is not going to do her job and she doesn't have the integrity and honesty to step aside then somebody is going to need it do it for her. i'm interested in ceceing what the court does motions to dismiss or motions for recusal. >> you know what i would do, katie, i would give a town hall meeting with the police and take their hard questions if i were this prosecutor. the depth of this divide and it's really important to the community, it's important to her doing the job. it's important to the police and her stand offishness to them and the trail that's been left is not a good one. i think she should take the heat and sit down in the hall with a bunch of police. >> she needs to sit down and listen to the rank and file. not these commanders. not the top echelon of the police department, the rank and file is who she needs to sit down with. ms. mosby, if you are watching this show tonight i urge you to sit down with the rank and file. listen to what they have got to say. they can talk back and forth to you and i'm sure that
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maybe you all can come to some kind of agreement. >> katie i think she is too stubborn right now to the way he she reacted to any questions. i think she is too stubborn to do that. >> absolutely. i think she is letting her pride get in the way. if you are going to sit down and talk to somebody, talk to the cops injured during the riots. why don't you ask them how are they doing and how are their injuries because they were doing their job when they were injured when the city went up in flames. i think that she is too embarrassed to want to field the hard questions and i think, again, she likes the self-aggrandize when she can say something that benefits her she has no hesitation speaking to the media. >> over her head. >> anyway ted and katie thank you. >> and this is a fox news alert. the manhunt is on and two dangerous fugitives murderer he is including a cop killer on the loose and they could be anywhere. investigators have more than 500 leads. at this hour, police, corrections officers, sheriffs, u.s. marshalls all going door to door. heavily armed officers setting up road blocks, running vehicle checks, doing everything they can.
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but still these dangerous two killers remain at large and since saturday. just hours ago new york governor andrew cuomo and new york state police superintendent speaking to the media. >> as law enforcement, we are all in during this search. we won't stop until we these convicts captured. >> we need to find these escapees. they are dangerous men. they are killers. they are murderers. there is no reason to believe they wouldn't do it again. they are going to be more desperate than ever. so we're doing everything we can it's a top priority to find them and to bring them back. >> today the public will have noticed an increased police presence both in the village of dannemora and in willsboro in essex county. we continue to go door to door checking homes and seasonal residences. and we continue to do vehicle checks and a number of road blocks in the area. we have more than 450 law enforcement members working on this search.
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>> we found out that they were gone in the early morning hours approximately 5:30 o. they could have been -- they could have escaped as early as midnight, 11:00. so they had had a several hour head start to begin with. we have had an exhaustive effort as you know. it's not for lack of trying, but we're going to redouble our efforts and we are going to keep looking until we find them. >> the "new york times" jesse mckin solid is in upstate new york. he joins us. tell us the latest on the manhunt. >> the details that came out of today's press conference with the governor was this idea that perhaps these two convicts had patched go to vermont to new york after escape. once again, they are dealing, as you mentioned with up to 500 tips. one of the things i asked joe today how are you sorting these? this is an enormous amount of information flowing from
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enormous amount of sources. they feel that vermont has some intrigue to them. bringing joe out today coordinate and say that vermont is also all in on this investigation signaled to me that might be be an open line of inquiry. >> it's so bizarre. why they would think vermont. look at these two. first of all, we don't know whether they have split up or not. we don't know how they are dressed. they left anywhere from as the governor cuomo said from maybe midnight friday into saturday morning. they have been on the run now a number of days. we don't know if they hopped a train. they need, food, money and transportation. we know a woman was attempting to help them. you know, how much help did she really give them? do they have any weapons? did she give them any weapons? did they have help from anybody else? the number of questions is enormous. they could be in alabama for all we know forget vermont. >> you are absolutely right. that is what's going on here is that the further you get away from the actual escape the more the questions multiply. you are absolutely right.
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they could have changed clothe. they could have changed their hair colors. they could have figured out how to get a vehicle. there is a sense of frustration, i think, on the ground here that they have not made progress. but this talking to police officials, they say again and again look, this -- we're in this for the long haul. we are going through every lead. we have got to chase everything down. they will start pleading patience acertain point. we are in day five with it. and i think you are right that the number of open questions just continues to spiral. >> all right. joyce mitchell, the woman who is -- who works within the prison, is she talking to law enforcement? is she giving them any information? is she giving them any hints as to where they might be going? >> they have said that she has been somewhat cooperative. she has not been charged. been arrested. there have been rumors flying fast and furious that that could be in the offing at any hour. but, as of now she has not been arrested.
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as for the quality of the information she is giving, we he don't know that either. what we do know is that joe told us again today is that they're talking not only to her but talking to other people inside that prison. >> did she supply them with any tools to get out? >> once again not clear. they have released no details on the tools other than saying a couple days ago that they had kind of limited number of tools but that they were looking for others which led me to believe that perhaps, you know, we are talking about not just a single grinder or, you know, a pair of -- a hack saw or something like that but maybe they had had a battery that they were hauling around to kind of get out of there. >> this is terrifying, jesse, they could be anywhere. these two have nothing to lose by being if they get cornered by anybody. jesse, thank you. >> absolutely, thank you. now, the absolutely disagreement about this. richard matt, one of the two is evil cold blooded killer. he dismembered an elderly man.
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his half-brother is worried that his brother will not go down without a fight. wayne schimpf joins us on the phone. your level of certainty that he will go down fighting is, what? >> pretty much 100%. he said to me once before that he could do another seven years. there is no way heed would do life ever. i believe they will not take him alive. >> is there any way to apeople to him at all should he be cornered? >> i would beg him if he ever hearses this or anybody gets it to him please turn yourself in and let everybody be at ease finally not be in fear over this. >> why we turn himself in? you are his half-brother. you testified against him. you ever terrified he is going to come for you. i mean, how can anything -- you have said that he is a con man. how could anyone possibly think that he is going to turn himself in? >> i don't see how anybody could think that but you
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still have to -- you still have to ask. i mean, somehow somewhere there still has to be some shred of human being in him that maybe he might, you know, he might finally listen. i doubt it, but i would hope so. >> how clever is he? he needs money. he needs transportation. he needs food. you know, he has got to get those things. it's now been about five days. >> i think he has no problem doing it. when he took off from mexico, when he stole my van, he he had under $200 in his pocket. made it down to texas. crossed the rio grande into mexico. so this couple days, i think, is nothing for him. i mean, he has a way of too long it he is a thief, he is a con man. any woman that comes across him, he will try to charm them and he can do it. >> well, even with $200 he can't even buy gas to get down to mexico with $200
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these at as. unless with any possibility he has access to money? >> i have no idea unless somebody is helping him out on the outside that nobody knows about, i couldn't answer that. >> does he have any friends? anybody who he possibly might contact? >> all i could think of was possible old girlfriends. >> what about -- are you the only surviving sibling? >> yes ma'am. >> and you are terrified of him at this point. >> yes. if he contacted me i would contact the u.s. marshals or police right away. i have no desire to help him at all. i want him caught. >> but we contact you for help or does he want to contact you to get back at you because you testified in court against him putting him in prison? >> you know, i honestly could not answer that because i believe it could be either/or. i mean as far as i know, he could try to call me, you know, be like oh, you know, i'm your brother. can you help me?
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and have all the intentions of killing me. i don't know. i just -- i really do not want to have to deal with that. >> macy the age difference between the two of you? >> i'm sorry, i couldn't hear. >> you what's the age difference between the two of you? >> one year. one year. >> wayne i hope he doesn't show up at your house. i hope he is picked up very soon. is he very violent and very evil. we just don't know where he is wayne i wish you the best of luck. >> thank you very much, greta. >> more calls to the public to help give any clues that might lead to the capture of these dangerous killers. at this hour a 100% sweep from the clinton correctional facility to the surrounding community. clinton county sheriff david favreau is in the prison where the killers escaped from. he joins us on the phone. good evening, sir what is 1 100% sweep what does that mean? >> excuse me? could you repeat that greta? >> what is the 100% sweep that we're told you are doing? what does that mean?
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>> it's actually the state police are actually the ones leading into the investigation in dannemora and it's 100% effort that's out between the state police the sheriff's department, the marshalls the fbi the local pds. border patrol. customs, immigration and enforcement. they have said that there is hundreds and hundreds of officers up here completely going every square foot working their way through the village and surrounding areas. i think it's important as you have said and as you have asked a lot of questions. the tips that come in are great. we don't know exactly where they are. nobody has direct information on that. even though we have hundreds of law enforcement members from multiple agencies. millions of dollars from physical assets up here search. most important asset that we all have is the eyes and ears of the public. not just in clinton county. not just the state of new york and vermont the entire country. i have sheriff colleagues all over the country. a lot of police agencies and a lot of people in community. those are the ones that are going to help had us solve this crime. >> i guess i would be
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looking and putting out notices. any carjacking, anyone missing cars? if you haven't seen someone in a while who might have been carjacked i guess that would be what i would be putting out there pretty heavily. >> any crimes that come out are going to be quickly he investigated obviously we are going to be looking in that direction. >> i think with the type of crime that this was the escape that this was playing low key they don't want to leave a trail so they are doing as minimal as possible as far as committing any additional criminal activity. it's easier to follow that than if you have absolutely nothing. they are being very clever with that the people know their own surroundings better than anyone. if they can look around and something is out of place the vehicle south place a door is is ajar. >> that's the tip. >> exactly. if we take a look at the boston bomber, where do they find him? a guy noticed that the tarp was loose on his boat, he called authorities where weighs? he was staying in his belt for shelter from rain and
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greta, good evening, that information in fact comes from the attorney representing the officer in question who spoke for the first time today. jane is her name. her client corporal eric casebolt. he says is he truly sorry for what he has done.
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he has gone into hiding with his family because of those death threats. she says on the day in question officer had responded to two suicide calls before he answered the pool party call and his emotions quote got the better of him. now, hours after that statement the attorney representing the 15-year-old girl seen in that video who casebolt threw to the ground said his stress was no defense for his behavior. her attorney says the teen's civil rights were violated and they had not yet decided how to proceed. meantime, community leaders speaking out today saying casebolt should have been fired instead of being allowed to resign because now he is able to keep his benefits and his pension. those activists vowing to keep on protesting saying they will not be fully satisfied until casebolt is slapped with criminal charges. the d.a. says that decision won't be made until the findings of the internal police investigation is released. it is also important to mention there is a segment
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of this community upset over the resignation. those who have supported the police all along and say there is a lot on that video that you do not see. homeowners near the pool who said the officer did what he had had to do because it was a volatile situation that could have turned dangerous. casebolt was wasn't only going after minorities, they say. they contend he also detained a white teenager but that was not shown on the video. greta? >> casey, thank you. >> and just a short time ago, president obama making a new decision about iraq. iraq war veteran and congressman adam kinzinger is standing by, that's next. we are monitoring that manhunt for the two escapes. they are dangerous and could be any place. we will take you live to the scene. she's perfectly healthy. cigna covers preventive care. that's having your back.
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an american fighting against isis has been killed. 36-year-old keith broomfield killed in syria while fighting with kurdish are forces. he joined in february and dozens of westerners have joined the fight against the islamic state including a number of iraq war veterans. news tonight from the white house, president obama making the call to send 450 more u.s. troops to train advise and assist in the fight against isis. these are not combat troops. iraq war veteran and congressman adam kinzinger joins us. >> hey, good evening. the president is going to add 450 to glan yeah, fine. right, it's something extra.
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we are going the right direction. the problem is the president needs to have a oval office address where he says to the american people here is where isis came from. here's the problem. and here is how we are going to defeat him. 450 troops. increased training mission fine. year ago. a lot of advances in different countries that they weren't even in a year ago. i don't think 450 troops are going to make the difference, like i said, it's a good start but he is he going to need to stand up and say here is going to be the strategy wipe him out. special forces raised. it's going to be embedded troops with iraqi military. key element of that. training the officer corps which melted away which is why the iraqi military melted away. >> there is something else in that address that needs to be done. the president needs to talk to our vets. our vets some of them left blood on the battlefield. some incredibly disabled. their spouses get a different spouse coming home
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after the war. ifent's abrupt departure has had a bad influence on today. need to explain to them. otherwise it seems like all of their heartache and hard work was for what? ramadi, and mosul he needs to talk to the vets. >> history is going to argue whether we should have gone in 2003. once we went in i think the withdrawal in 2011 will be deemed one of the biggest mistakes in foreign policy. like you said as iraq war veteran myself who didn't give near as much as some of the marines and guys on the ground that lost friends next to them to see what you fought for and winning and for freedom is gone, is disgusting. and i think frankly this is a very important part where the american people and congress needs to hold the president accountable to the future of afghanistan too. we could see the exact same thing happen in afghanistan. >> and i don't mean to forget about the decision 2003 going in there and
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decision no weapons of mass destruction. i still think as commander and chief there needs to be a message that he is thinking about. this is not an easy decision, nobody wants another person to die over there nobody wants to go there. i think he has got -- i think he has got to let them know that he is thinking about this constantly. >> the president, i think is trying to manage this problem. he looks at the clock and says i have a year and a half in office. and i think he really doesn't want to be the guy that starts iraq 3 in his mind and so he is trying to manage it and he hopes the next person can come in and do it. at the end of the day we have to look at the president of the united states to provide us leadership. is he doing his best to put head in the sand and manage. this 450 troops over here. men and women going to go train god speed to. they i think they are going to do great work. i'm fearful that's not enough and we have to incrementally continue again. >> i want to see him cammeron, an gla merkel and everything else. the united states can't carry this burden alone.
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>> no but we can organize a fierce. >> indeed. congressman, nice to see you sir. >> nice to see you thanks. is the "new york times" taking cheap shots at senator marco rubio. the panel is here. next. massive manhunt underway right now. "on the record" is tracking every new development. take you there. plus one woman two blocks away from the prison. she is terrified to leave her house. she is calling in to go "on the record" straight ahead. did you know that meeting your daily protein needs actually helps to support your muscle health? boost® high protein nutritional drink can help you get the protein
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after senator marco rubio. >> i read the piece and reread it again and seeing if there is anything new there. they criticized him for taking out $150,000 in law school for student loans and racking up mortgage debt. that's the very common. they accuse him of owning a luxury speed boat. it's a fishing boat and he waited until he had this big $800,000 book deal to buy that thing. if you look over it there is nothing there. they gloss over the fact that senator rubio is raising a family of six putting kids through private christian school in miami expensive place to live and maintaining a residence in d.c. portraying this as reckless. joe biden didn't have a big net worth either. is he in touch with the common man he can relate to them because he doesn't have a lot of money. with rubio they are saying is he a spend thrift that can't manage his money. double. >> i can partially defend them there are some things
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in the report that are troubling. most of them were previously reported and been out there for years. these are his use of a florida republican party credit card for some personal expenses back in the -- back the last decade. he has answered those saying they were a bad idea, reregrets them. he ill advised various terms like that. those are the sorts of things where you are using party money. it's somewhat public money. and then there is. >> it's not his. >> it's not his right. it's not his personal money. and also time when you use campaign funds to pay for office expenses that were essentially his office was his home. so those are the things that are slightly troubling none of that is new. that was all out there when he ran for the senate and was vetted. he explained i made some bad decisions. those are things i would say maybe as a public servant you might want to look at. his own personal finance decisions his income to debt ratio or debt to income ratio has never been above the 43% that's supposed to be above the red line. what's the big deal if we
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question how he spends his money. only way "new york times" doesn't look like they are gunning for him and hit job they have got to do this to every single candidate in both parties. that's the way out. >> i will pose this question. which is worse this or obama's dealings with rezko. the rezko connections were probably more questionable than what rubio has in his record. right, unless they go through every single candidate on both sides and do this, then they are going to look like they are picking on him and rubio is already using this as a fundraising plea i suspect it probably helps him in the republican primary. >> only way out of this is to go after every one and show they are fair. >> i would think so. they have become bee gun to look into hillary clinton's finances obviously they are much more troubling she is making millions on millions of dollars. foreign conflicts trying to influence american influences. that's much more troubling. they didn't portray obama
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when he was running in 2008 as being a reckless spend thrift even though he bought much more expensive house than senator rubio. he had a lot of law school debt as well. they didn't portray that as any ways of being reckless and hut himself in the financial hole of his own making. >>' traffic ticket, rubio and his wife have 17 traffic tickets. i thought wow he has a heavy foot. i read it and i find out she has the heavy foot. he only had four of them and she had 13 of them. but why did they have -- they were combining them i thought. >> over 10 years. >> if wasn't like he was trying to pay off a cop or anything. these are speeding. they tried to make him look bad with that i thought that was the tipoff that headline i thought was very dirty pool. i'm taking the last word on that. panel, thank you. and remember this? it's pepsi from the 1990s it might be coming back. new reports that pepsi may bring back the classic soda. just months ago a competitor
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launching all out campaign to bring back the drink. pepsi sending him a letter saying we think you will all be happy with what's in store. all right. okay. let's get ready. a brand new episode of greta talk. the podcast is going live in just moments. this week on greta talk at a a keil, the wife of "american sniper" chris keil. tonight has great stories. her husband's awkward marriage proposal. plans for the future. everything about love, war faith and renewal. you don't want to miss it and you don't have to. so easy to tune in. just subscribe right now. it's free on itunes, tune in or stitcher. and two murderers with nothing to lose and history of kill people out of prison and on the loose. "on the record" has the latest on the manhunt. the mother of one of these fugitive killers is lashing out at killer son. "on the record" takes to you new york. that's next.
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the mother of one of et cetera es escaped convicts wants nothing to do with her son and expressed shock at the prison escape. the spoke with david sweat's mother and megan joins us. thanks for joining us and what else did she tell you about her son? >> sure. thank you. well, when i spoke to ms. sweat and asked her about her reaction, she told me that she couldn't believe that he had pulled off this elaborate escape from prison. she also spent a great deal of time talking about what she described as a troubled childhood for david sweat. behavioral problems that started at age 9 with acting out and getting in trouble at school. and eventually a criminal record that he a few years later. >> you know what i was struck megan by what you wrote is she talked about how troubled he was and he was abusive sometimes and lived in a foster home at
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some times and then she told you that she communicated often in writing then she said she disntd know if he had gone to high school. >> there are certainly a lot of things that are unclear about david sweat's childhood. she is hurt by david's actions. there is even definite sense of unease there and concern really about what might happen to him now. >> now is he a cop killer. that's what he is in prison for. is she worried he will try to make contact with her and if so what have her plans. >> i asked her if she expected to hear from him at all she very quickly answered that she doesn't expect to hear from him at all. >> when is the last time she saw him? does she do prison visits? >> she had visited him once she told me many years ago her daughter brought her up to see him.
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their communications happened by letter and she said that they communicated by letter once or twice a week for the majority of the time that he was incarcerated in clinton. but the letters from him stopped coming about two months ago she said in her contact ended then. >> how about phone calls? did she speak to phone from prison? >> no not that we spoke of primary means of communication is the letters which she has turned them over to the police. >> which is so weird. she claims having letters from him every week or so and yet she doesn't talk to him on the phone and doesn't visit him and doesn't know if he was in high school and doesn't seem to like him very much. >> right. well, it's a fairly complex situation and like i said it was clear to me that she is angry at him but also, at this point concerned as the search continues. >> megan, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> and state troopers in helmets and body armor going
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door to door searching houses near the new york prison where two killers escaped. barbara lives two blocks from the prison and she is terrified. she joins us on the phone. good evening barbara. >> good evening, greta. >> all right. so tell me when did you first learn that there had been an escape and how did you learn? >> i learned the next morning after they had escaped and it made me edgy, they are only two blocks away and i'm sure they might have crossed my street to get out oof the area. >> have the police come to your door. >> yes they have been to the door a couple of times. >> do they ask to search your house? they are looking for where they might be hiding any place or even holding someone hostage. >> yeah. they ask how, you know, what i thought about the situation and if i had any question. they asked to search the house. i didn't feel it was necessary. my cellar windows are all locked and my doors are all
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locked. i didn't let them come in. there was no reason why except for that. >> do you know where this manhole is where they escaped from? >> i believe it's in front of the school. >> about how far is that from your home? >> that's two blocks. >> i guess i mean no one feels safe tonight they could be any place in this country any place at all. i guess in some ways i think you might be one of the lucky ones because they don't want to stick around the prison. they want out of there. >> that's what i understand. >> is there still a police presence in your neighborhood? >> not on the street. they are in the neighborhood near the community center and on a couple of the side streets they have road blocks. >> and i assume from everything you hear that everybody has sort of been accounted for in the area so there is no fear that they are hold up in some house a block away threatening somebody. >> no.
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i haven't heard of anything like that. everything seems to be quite calm. >> are you scared? >> not at this point. no i have reached the point where i am not anymore. i have been through a couple of -- already. i see what a good job they do. i am kind of -- i'm kind of calming down. >> well, good for you and i hope you stay safe and i expect you will. thank you so much for joining us. >> you are welcome. pie bye. >> goodbye. coming up, american sniper, the movie that gripped the nation. tonight, you will hear from the widow of american sniper chris keil when i take you off-the-record. that's next.
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. grim and gory new details in the washington mansion mystery. baseball bat covered in blood in the room where savopoulos was murdered. last month he was murdered with his son wife and housekeeper. the also noting that the detectives saw surveillance cam ran 00 exterior of their home. now to virginia where the man accused of kidnapping university student graham enters alford plea in a separate sexual assaulted case. d.n.a. evidence linking him to the case in 2005. alford plea claims he is he is innocent but admits the prosecutors have enough evidence to convict him. the separate trial for murder of college co-ed hanna graham begins later this month. paragraph plaintiff let's all go off-the-record for main. you all know the movie american sniper. the story of navy seal chris keil. it is the biggest movie of
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the year. but it my conversation with chris' widow at a a keil during my greta talk podcast that reminds me of the expression don't sweat the small stuff that is so true. what at a a has had to induring and is endure something not the small stuff. it's the big stuff. it absolutely takes your breath away. not only did she lose the life of love of her life in a flash but tell two small children their father was dead murdered. >> i have never had anything more heart breaking than to sit down and tell them that it's forever. >> now, that's only a few seconds of our talk. but it gives you an idea about teya and the hardships she has overcome. you can hear the entire conversation which is a very personal one. it's going live right now. you can get this by subscribing to greta talk. it's free on itunes, tune in or stitcher. so go listen now. it's free. and that's my off-the-record comment tonight.
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