tv FOX News Reporting Crossing Jordan -- Escape From Terror FOX News June 28, 2015 12:00am-1:01am PDT
they seek equal dignity under the law. the constitution grants them that. what do you think? let me know. with the syrian regime terrorizing its people. >> they use the little poles to hit us and torture us. >> and isis on the rampage as well. >> either we become muslims or pay the tax money or they kill us. >> some wonder if america should do more. >> there's a full blown christian genocide. >> with jordan caught in the cross fire. its leader is trying to stand up to them. can america afford to stay on the sidelines? >> kill the bad guys you kill the bad guys that's what you
do. if obama doesn't act, if congress doesn't act. i'm going toict act. >> crossing jordan, escape from terror. from jordan, bret baier. we come to you from amman, the capital of jordan an improbable out post of progressive in a region being swept into turmoil. this small kingdom sits in the cross hairs of isis sharing borders with the collapsing states of syria and iraq from which the so-called islamic state has been carved. just beyond looms iran with ambitions to dominate the region. standing against these currents is the thoroughly modern would be architect of the new middle east, jordan's king abdullah. a man who is comfortable joking with jon stewart and driving a helicopter. first, he says he'll visit ruin
on the enemy's of his people. jordan is a nation besieged. surrounded by war, this moderate arab country has become in effect another casablanca like in the old humphrey bogart movie. a place where refugees can find temporary refuge. how to deal with the people in the here and now. it's a king sized problem. >> there are 1.5 million syrian refugees in our country. that's almost 21% of our population. >> i asked king abdullah about it. >> only 28%, 29% of the refugee budget is being covered by the whole national community. the rest we have to cover.
it's pretty depressing quite, obviously. >> the king is quick to promote an economic vision of his nation. which he sees a the potential silicon valley of the middle eastern world. >> we're out of the top ten countries for start ups in the world. >> king abdullah has long had a passion for technology. his wife was an employee of apple computer when he met her 23 years ago. in general, he wishes to promote his nation as the place to be economically speaking. as much as the king wishes to move forward, he knows there are plenty of forces out there pulling the region in the opposite direction. radicals who have not only caused the refugee crisis but have made it all but impossible to solve. >> i hate to use the word extremist they take that as a badge of honor. when you ask me if i'm a
moderate extremism i say i'm a muslim. i don't know what these people are. these are out laws renegades they have nothing to do in understanding what our religion is about. >> that to the king means he must be a strong leader in defense of religious freedom for all. >> i have sought to uphold the true spirit of islam. the islam ofpies. >> he sees jordan as a place that can be free from sectarian strife. >> we are in the very spot. >> that is father haban director of the coexistence center in amman. referring to the river jordan where jesus was baptized. >> chris yantianity is here. we invited for the first time in history all denominations of the whole world of christianity. they came to amman and they discovered the challenges facing
our christians. we need to listen to the jordanian voice. >> abdullah says his background makes him the right man to take on the radicals. he received an education in england and the west. he has served alongside american and british troops as a tank commander. chopper pilot, and as a paratrooper. >> i was in the u.s. i had other coursewise the u.s. i did my helicopter flying i flew copras. >> in a favorite story of his a british star sergeant told him mr. abdullah you're always going to be in exkremt. it's the depth that's going to vary. of course he didn't say excrement. the credo my by crude but the king has adopted it as his own.
he's aware right now he's in pretty deep. >> technically you've got two wars going on at the moment. one against the regime. >> that's the regime of certain president basher al assad. >> and one against isis. >> in february isis captured a jordanian pilot and burned him alive. republican congressman duncan hunter was meeting with the king when he got the news. >> can you tell us about that moment he referenced this clint eastwood's unforgiven. >> yeah, he was basically like we're going to bring hell and death upon the bad guys. we're going to take it to him. >> you stepped up air strikes and those strikes are continuing. >> we stepped up big time. we are the only arab country operating alongside the iraqis in iraq. and we are operating in syria. >> he dares isis to take on jordan. >> if you look at the map of what's going on in syria and
iraq. where we are, working militarily isis is kept at a distance. that's not by accident. >> king abdullah is a warrior king. >> you've been inspired. >> when you hear him speak and president obama speak, you can tell there's a big difference in the way they want to go about this and the way they feel about it in their heart. king abdullah when he talks you can tell he's serious. >> even as the king's war plans unfold his country has to deal with the refugee problem on its doorstep. we'll look into that and the horrors that drove people here when we return. h
east. we sent reporter benjamin hall to the front lines. jordan's border with syria. >> we're in the far northeast of jordan. at the last major military out post in this vast desert we're not far from the point where syria, iraq and jordan all meet. and this is also the point of where many people fleeing the conflicts cross looking for sank chow ware. we'll join the border guards as they patrol looking for people. a patrol comes across whole families fleeing from the conflict in syria. they are given food and water and seen by doctors. from here they're sent to various camps. this is one of the largest. five years ago this was desert. today, with 82,000 people it's jordan's fourth largest city. there are all sorts here of all ages. each with a personal tragedy.
it's where we met this 6-year-old. she came with her mother and sisters and the clothes on her back but without her father. >> translator: i want to sing a song for my father. >> her father is one of the many that has disappeared into the syrian prison system. >> translator: my father was arrested one day. we started crying when he didn't come home. >> her mother told me. her father had died in that syrian prison and she can't bear to tell her. >> translator: i have my father's picture on my phone and it's the thing i love the most. why did you leave me? come back to me. >> her uncle jamal worked as a brick layer before the civil war. >> translator: we were happy the only bad thing was that the pruzeme was difficult. if we entered the police stations we use today get
tortured tortured. >> six or seven months after the war started the army began raiding houses. >> translator: they claim the civilians are terrorists. he targeted kids and civilians and killed them. >> reporter: jamal tried to get a taxi to go to work one morning. the next thing he knew for no parent reason he'd by shot and was on his way to prison. >> translator: they kept on claiming i was involved in terrorist activity. they wanted names from me. names of terrorists. they wanted to gather information and they even burned me. >> how did they burn you? >> translator: an oxygen and gas cylinder used to belt down iron. >> jamal says he was held and torched every day for a year and a half. before being released. and he immediately fled to jordan. >> translator: they used the little poles to hit us and torture us. they used it on all of the prisoners. >> almost every camp member has
a tale of terror to tell. this woman who wishes to conceal her identity to protect her family lived in a densely populated area outside damascus. >> translator: tank shells missiles the air strikes. >> she grew accustomed to the signs of war. bash in the early morning of august 21st, 2013 the women in her family were awakened at 2:00 a.m. by someone telling them to get out of their house. it was another attack. except this one was difficult. what was the sound like, it was the smell. >> translator: i can't explain what the smell was but my eye sight became weak. i couldn't see well. >> these disturbing images show the horror experienced by she and her neighbors that night.
someone yelled they're hitting us with chemicals. >> translator: they told us that the chemical attacks would only be about ten feet high. we went to the fifth floor because we thought it could not reach that floor. >> her main concern was for her children. >> translator: my husband got us blankets and we soaked the blankets and towels in water and i covered the children with them. but it did not work. then my son was dying and we started screaming and crying. and my husband was slapping his face for him to wake up. he fainted and became unconscious. then i started losing consciousness and i started throwing up. then they took us both to the hospital. >> what she saw that night, still haunts her. >> translator: i can't describe the scene. seeing people dying, their souls coming out their bodies expanding. people were screaming right there in front of me. i saw them. they're stomachs expanding the
blood coming out of their ears. >> the rockets fired on those people contained nerve gas. an estimated 4,800 people died in the attack. president obama had called the use of chemical weapons a quote red line. and if syria crossed that line there would be quote, enormous consequences. have you heard that obama said the use of chemical weapons would be a red line? did you then expect something to happen? >> translator: we thought president obama was going to stop the war. >> instead the u.s. and russia brokered a deal to remove and destroy assad's chemical weapons. but the fighting continued. and indeed so did the chemical attacks. with assad's forces dropping chlorine gas from helicopters. nobody here can understand obama's inactions. we've spoken to many people who were in the gas attacks at
damascus. we've heard the horrible stories. the choking, the burning throats, the vomiting the blood from the ears and from the nose. climbing over dead bodies in the middle of the night. and yet, no one came to help them. when a red line was drawn, nothing was done. >> translator: america promised to help and did nothing. >> so says a rebel general in charge of supplying elements to the free syrian army. >> translator: the whole word did anything. because of obama there with no more red lines to draw. he is using chlorine battles. >> recently president obama was asked about assad's use of gases. >> there was no military response that you appeared to promise. no retalulation on the part of the u.s. now there's a possibility that assad has once again used
chemical weapons. what did you tell these leaders here who are disappointed? >> it's true we've seen the reports about the use of chlorine bombs that had the effect of chemical weapons. chlorine itself historically has not been listed as a chemical weapon but when it is used in this fashion, can be considered a prohibitive use of that particular chemical. >> the u.s. and the un are still investigating. and the war continues. as refugees stream into jordan and the rebels still wonder where is the help from america they thought they could count on? >> translator: they never gave us any weapons. give us anti-aircraft missiles. we requested them and kept on requesting them. th us any of the weapons we asked for. >> so today, four years after it began, the free syrian army
seems mostly a spent force. there are many reports that the ssa is losing fighters to other groups. do you fear as the war continues the ssa may become smaller as people choose to join more radical richer better armies? >> translator: there should be international support to avoid this or else fighters will join extremist islamic groups. >> that's what's happening. we couldn't find anyone to speak on camera. after a lengthy conversation with this pigeon seller he did open up after the camera was turned off. he said his own cousin died fighting in syria with isis. he told me i know who all the isis supporters are here. we protect each other. i wouldn't mind if my children went to fight with isis. i have nine of them. i say let them go and fight. god be with you. it's a duty for good. government officials estimate
there are 2,500 jordanians fighting with isis. will that number grow as muslim refugees to syria see no other way to get back at assad? not all refugees in jordan are muslim or escaped from the war in syria. isis has created another stream that includes christians. we'll look at their horror story when we come back.
little too late? >> the peace and tranquility of the jordanian countryside hides some tragic tales. in the camp behind me many christians who fled from isis with nothing more but the clothes on their back. the greater tragedy is they believe not one believe christianity has a place in this land. they just want to live. this man lived in mosul the most populatated city in iraq. during the iraq war he saw muslims attack christians his brothers fled to america. he refused to be forced out. he bought a home for $300,000 early last year. bad timing. ten days later, isis took over. he and his wife were given a
choice. >> translator: either we become muslims or pay the tax money they want or they kill us. >> when he saw the mayor getting out of town he knew his time there was up. >> translator: i told my wife prepare the bags to flee. >> not a moment too soon. >> translator: i was told that isis took my house. my house became a military headquarters for isis. i have photos as proof. here it says isis property with the letter n. >> the n stands for nazarene. isis took over the property of christians across mosul and bombed their churches. >> translator: we left all our belongings. but we took with us our christianity. >> he does not expect to return to mosul. but hopes to someday join his brothers who reside near detroit, michigan. two other refugees i spoke to also held out until june last
year when christians were given the ultimate matem, convert, pay a tax, or die. >> translator: i lost everything. my whole life's struggle to work and earn money got stolen from me. my furniture, everything was stolen. >> she's heard of the atrocities committed against those who stay. >> translator: people coming after us they did witness a lady she was holding her baby and crying and begging the isis fighter. take me don't take my child. he told her i'm going to make you feel sad all your life. isis took her son and she did not see how they killed him. but they took him. >> after moving from one place to another they heard jordan would welcomes christians. >> translator: i thank the king of jordan for hosting us and being nice to us. >> though they're relatively safe in jordan these christians
are not allowed to work here. a rule designed to insure they don't become permanent residents of the country. so they are trying to join their daughter who fled to san diego and arrived in 2009. would you like to follow your children to america? >> translator: yes this is my hope. this is my wish. this is what i aim to do. i signed up with the un to go to america because my children are there. they are feeling welcomed in america. they say america will open its heart to everyone. >> if your children are watching this what would you like to say to them? >> translator: a special message, i miss them. i want to hug them. i want to keep them. i want them around my shoulders and in my hands. i want to kiss and hug them. >> will america take this couple in? more on that when we return.
back to our special fox news report crossing jordan escape from terror. we just saw how isis forces have been persecuting christians. causing a new wave of refugees into jordan and else where. sadly, the violence only seems to be growing with isis on the march. we also saw that many of these christians hope for sanctuary in america. is their hope misplaced? one man taking their cause is an iraqi american businessman in san diego, california. >> there is a full blown christian genocide. a christian holocaust in our midst. in iraq and syria. >> he is ceo of the minority museum anitarian foundation. >> we're going to adopt them. we'll make sure they don't take any government assistance.
we'll make sure they get a job and become good citizens of america. >> he's compiled a list of 70,000 christians from syria and iraq who have sponsors that live in america willing to help. >> our supposed government leaders are silent. are given speeches when people are getting killed with swords. with the absence of their leadership we're going to do something. i'm going to do something. if obama doesn't act, if congress doesn't act, i'm going to act. try to save as many people as i can. >> he has started what some call a modern day underground railroad. >> we're using every means possible and every tool we have to work with other countries and other people to help them get out of the country and to a safe place. >> the first step is to get people out of the clutches of isis and into a nearby country that will hold them such as jordan or turkey. from there, the christians hoping for asylum are flown to
mexico a country where it's easier to maneuver. even if your papers are not in order. after that, the final barrier, getting in to the promised land. america. one person we followed through the process was this man. last year he was living in northern iraqi city with an ancient christian tradition. in september, isis stormed in. >> translator: yes a lot of them. i saw a lot of christians get killed. i was so nervous to save my kids my life. i left everything behind. >> he fled iraq but with little cash and no job, he didn't know what to do. luckily, his brother-in-law who lived in san diego had a connection. mark. >> translator: my brother-in-law told me mark will help you. and he is still helping me. >> he and his family flew via europe into mexico city and then to tijuana.
there he got a helping hand from a ciyoety, someone who smuggles people in from across the border. he only gave us his first name. manny. he described his role in this complicated process. >> i have many law enforcement friends who are willing to help to facilitate the crossing whether it be law enforcement agencies political ties anything that's needed. >> with all the danger he had experienced at home he figured there would be trouble. but he was surprised by how smoothly the whole process went in mexico. >> translator: i was lucky. i didn't get stopped. >> we make sure they are escorted to a safe point on our mexican side and they are reached by a contact in the united states side. once in the united states side we will make sure they cross to safe destination to the united states. we will only have them in trusted cabs and drivers with our vehicles. we will only acort them with people we know. >> most who follow this process
have to sneak across the border and manage in the u.s. as best they can living without official sanction. the same way undocumented aliens do. but he did something bold. he and his family announced themselves to a u.s. customs officer at the border crossing near san diego. where we interviewed him. >> translator: they asked me for papers i told them i didn't have any. they gave us food and water. they took us to process where we received our release paperwork. by the border there's a building where they take detainees and refugees. >> he told them his whole story. his persecution, and how he wants asylum. he then gave them the phone number of his wife's family in san diego. who could be his sponsor. >> translator: we stayed 24 hours. the next day they released us. once i knew it was america and the americans took me i was so comfortable after that moment. i was so happy. we were so happy, we cried. we cried tears of happiness. >> he was given a three month
temporary visa. but his string of g is an exception. and it didn't last long. >> translator: i'm not working right now because my identification expired. people are helping me. my family helps me. mark is trying to find me a job. >> and even he has learned what is already known by many other persecuted christians finding haven in america is not easy. indeed some of his fellow iraqi christians found themselves detained indefinitely at the u.s. border. which sparked this june 18th demonstration near san diego. >> the iraqi government gave up on them on the christians and also the american government can do so much they kind of quit too. i am hoping for mark to continue his support to the community. and help the rest of the christians to make it here and save their lives. it's a struggle but it's worth it to live in this beautiful country. >> his belief is echoed by others.
remember the christian refugees we met in jordan? their greatest wish was to join their daughter in america. she lives near an iraqi christian community in elcuhone california a place where air mayic and arabic are mixed with churches. we found their daughter. she told us she's fine and working with her congressman to get her parents into the united states. and how she wishes with the threat of isis looming, that the process was easier. meanwhile, mark continues his crusade. >> we are begging congress and begging the president do an air lift. to do an air lift with neighboring nations. making deals with other countries and saying let's find a temporary home. let's find a solution for the
like jordan. but many would like to settle more permanently here in the united states. the problem for them isn't just at the border in southern california, it's in washington, d.c. which is why mark arabo is in the nation's capital knocking on doors. >> the only hope we have to save lives. >> he's met with congress and the white house. so far, no luck. >> i pray for god to open up their hearts and minds. i do everything i can to make sure that they know what's going on. >> he's backing a bill that aids those in the middle east who are being singled out for their religion. >> right now we have 32,000 visas available for the region. what the bill does is saying let's preoratize these. >> though he's a democrat he's found support from republican congressman duncan hunter. a co-sponsor of the bill. >> mark's doing a great job. he puts pressure on everybody.
he's trying to get deoutit out there you have an inspire segment of the population just because they believe in jesus christ is being killed. where are they supposed to go? there is only one place that can absorb them it's the united states. >> he has interesting methods. he has a network of people. they help iraqi christians make their way to mexico and with the help of coyotes smuggle them across the border and get them to the u.s. and they declare themselves refugees and ask asylum. is that your understanding it. >> it's interesting but it's not a good way to do t. what mark needs to focus on is making the people aware of this so that our government does something. and they do the right thing. because remember if a christian refugee can make it through mexico to the southern border and ask for asylum then anybody else can, too. >> that uncertainty is part of why it's so hard to get the bill
passed. >> everybody's a little bit leery on saying hey, come one, come all. it's hard to figure out who is good and who is bad. it just is. there's no electronic data base. you have to go on people's word that they're nice christian folks. >> arabo claims to have an answer to the fear. >> in the communication network we've developed through social media and our website. we open up the list to our di diocese. we vetted it and cross vetted it and matched them with american citizens that will sponsor them. we have their -- for those who have passports we have their passports. >> he says the resistance is as much political as anything. >> we realize the republicans immigration is a big issue. this isn't immigration. this is family. unification. these are people that just want to live. christians that are being assaulted and killed.
they're going to make the beauty of america even more attractive for the world. and that's what america is all about. >> for all the trouble he's having with congress he's got just as much trouble with the white house. >> president obama is a very anti-war president. he cares a lot about his anti-war legacy. when we say let's give visas to rescue the people treat this like we treated saigon or how we treated bosnia. let's do the same here. their answer is we'll get back to you. >> unlike congress he says the president can make a difference on his own. >> the swipe of a pen. with an executive order we could match the processing to match what we do in cuba which will immediately save 150,000 christians who are being targeted. with the swipe of a pen we could easily -- not just air lift. open up processing again. give them hope. and show them how to do it.
>> indeed he took his list to the white house this april. and it wasn't the first time. >> this time i took him two lists. i gave him a list of the names and the list of people that are no longer with us. and i told him if you guys didn't -- acted earlier they wouldn't be dead. the lits was a few thousand. the other list if you don't do nothing, they're going to die. they're going to die. >> the administration can fix this on their own. they can interpret immigration laws in the strangest way possible. it takes the administration admitting there's a targeted christian population that's being killed off by radical islamists throughout the world. i don't think they want to admit that. to admit that is to admit that radical islam is not a nice peaceful religion. >> representative hunter an iraq
war veteran who signed up after 9/11 recognizes there's a deeper problem. while we need, he says to help the persecuted. we also need the persecution to stop. >> so what's the ultimate solution? >> you kill the bad guys. you kill the bad guys that's what you do. it's that simple. >> which brings us full circle by to king abdullah. which that is his mentality. go after the bad guys. >> he understands them. president obama doesn't know what to do. he literally doesn't. i think he's scared of using his power, number one. i don't think he knows how to use t number two. you got to take it to them. the one thing king abdullah understands. he grew up in the area. he knows what power means in this area. he knows the only they they understand is power. >> who we return we head back to jordan. is king abdullah if you're suffering from constipation or irregularity powders may take days to work. for
of isis after america's precipitous withdrawal from iraq. today that is felt clearly here in the streets. death to america. death to israel. death to the infeddels. these are the words we've shouted from the mosque behind us for the town to hear. we know isis members used to congregate at this mosque and hand out leaflets and cds encouraging people to go and fight. now, even some who preach peace wonder if force might be the only response if we are to ever solve the refugee crisis and protect the future of christianity in the place it was born. >> as a leader in the church you support the military action against isis. >> i, as a man of the church i usually say that the strongest weapon is the islam.
>> father is a jordanian christian leader. >> but tell me if muslim is not going to act this way. sometimes we have to use force, not to kill others but to force them to come to islam. >> as we wait for the radicals to come to wisdom others are inclined to make the point more forcefully. >> you wouldn't have religious persecution. you wouldn't have any of what's happening if you simply slammed them. we're not going to put 50,000 troops in or drive around the road so you can ied us every day. we're going to kick your ass. you're not going to like what the united states does to you if you persecute christians and act like bad actors on the world stage, we're going to come after you. we're not going to build your schools and mosques. we're going to hit you really hard. if you do it again, we'll do it again. be good people. don't fill and persecute tens of thousands of people in the name
of radical islam. >> the man on the front lines of the crisis king abdullah. favors what he calls a holistic approach. he realizes there comes a time when actions speak louder than words. >> over the decades jordan has carved out a unique position for itself in this region. how do you describe that? >> trying to bring some common sense to a very difficult neighborhood. always trying to be on the side of good against evil. unfortunately in the past several years this region has gone from bad to worse. and we've had to step up to the plate with our international colleagues to push back against all the challenges that we've seen. >> while he won't go into particulars, there seems to be a strategy in place for that push-back. >> it's moved in leaps and bounds obviously we can't get
into what the next phases are about. from the isis perspective, all is not quiet on their western front, and that was the whole point, i think of jordan stepping up its responsibilities when it came to isis. >> jordan is stepping up. many other players in the region are taking sides as well. and while some americans see it as a far-away problem, essentially none of our business to other americans it's a crisis with fallout that has already reached our shores. a crisis with consequences that will only continue to spread until they can't be ignored. >> as we leave jordan one question remains. is this country with its reform-minded leader a sign of the future or is it a last stand against an encroaching darkness? king abdullah is not the only leader in the middle east to call for moderate muslim to stand up.
breaking news tonight in several major stories. terror strikes in france tunisia, and kuwait. this as u.s. authorities warn of possible terrorist attacks on american soil around the july 4th holiday. plus the massive manhunt continues for one of the two convicted murderers in upstate new york. hello, and welcome to "justice." i'm judge jeanine pirro. thanks for being with us. breaking details on terror warning and the attacks coming up. first, to fox news correspondent rick with the latest on the search for the accused killer david sweat. rick?