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is next. >> on the buzz beater this sunday, donald trump punches back at critics by mocking john mccain's status as a war hero. and huffington's divorce will the media backlash hurt the candidacy? >> you president obama unveil as daily with iran and the republicans are going nuclear. both sides are using highly charged rhetoric. >> i am still trying to figure out what we get. no one has outlined what we get. what they get a bomb, a pathway to the bomb. >> if it works no war with iran and no nuclear bomb in iran and this the president will have achieved the only diplomatic world trance-forming achievement big enough to make us forget
about him and ending 50 years of failed and ridiculous united states policy toward cuba which he also did. >> is the media polarization shedding more heat than light? why did the president go after garrett for asking a tough question? mike huckabee on being people on holes at social issue jobs and bay gauge and he will not talk about donald trump and dealing with the media. >> no one should be president if they are unwilling to answer the questions. the media should say we will not cover any candidate who is so pretentious to think they can script their campaign like it is a hollywood it is -- sit-down. >> the "new york times" discovered that bill cost difficult pursued sex with numerous women using drugs and paid two of them money to keep them happy. does this end the media debate of once and for all? campbell brown the former nbc and cnn anchor launch as website
to push education reform and holding a forum next month with presidential candidate. is this journalism or raw advocacy? i am howard kurtz and this is "media buzz." >> a major media fouror building this weekend against donald trump first after the huffington post declared that trump is such a side show he will no longer be covered in politics but in entertainment leash with the kardashians and donald trump filed something personal saying i fully understand why her husband left her for a man. >> after john mccain said trump is firing up the crazies trump yesterday mocked the senator's time as a prisoner of war in vietnam. >> he is not a hero. >> he is. he was capture and that is why he was a war hero.
i like people who were not captured. >> joining me is james rosen and matt lewis and jury, democratic much -- and julie roginisky. trump has thrived with this insulting style that generates headlines and now he is a presidential candidate. do the media include he is simply going too far again and again? >> i don't know the fitness that donald trump possesses to be commenting on other people's heroism, his most lethal foe evening i think is rosie o'donnell and now he is a candidate and filed with the fcc he taxes too its limits the pretense to objectivity in the old sort of ap-style book that is not he should be in entertainment as huffington post but you cannot simply report on donald trump the same as walter mondale or anyone
else. to describe him as businessman donald trump said x and y and z on thursday, that does not do justice as a subject. >> we have to much with our words. journalist criticizes when politicians go too far and day that milbank called him a "rotten pick," but it does it matter he is punching back and the highly derogatory treatment doing after mrs. huffington's divorce 15 or so years ago what do you make of that? this is part of the media environment that sadly donald trump is not entirely responsible for. we cover politicians like they are celebrities and a lot of political coverage is like tmz. should we be surprised that someone who talks like that is actually not just getting attention but also, first or second place if a left the early polls? >> do you think the media sent
abling this or trump is splitting a raucus environment? >> absolutely. this is like that movie...a wrestler a professional wrestler becomes president. sadly, a lot of the trends are leading that way. you have serious politicians like john kasich, or bobbyin' dallas that may not make it. >> does it matter other republican candidates are denouncing donald trump the rnc putting out a statementing saying john mccain is an american her grow there is no place for comments that disparage those who served honorably? if you want a sense of the press reaction trump is toast don-voyage. >> don't hate the player hate the game. he is playing into the press' hands, the press is not to cover him but it is beneficial relationship. he sells papers, as we saw and
they help his brand. to some extent, would you blame donald trump? he is a show man not a legitimate candidate but he is number one and number two. >> he is a showman? yes. do you want to call him a side show that is fair but he is not a legitimate candidate. where does the press insist on this and say well, we don't take him seriously? so what if he touches a nerve? >> the problem when you say things like that it comes across as elitist. the conservatives say see the game is rigged and someone says it like it is. >> you going out of your way not to criticize donald trump by talking about the media culture. >> i am happy to criticize him for the john mccain comments. they were horrible. as pointed out on twitter, john
mccain wasn't a hero because he was taken prisoner but a hero because he refused early release because that would be a propaganda victory for north vietnam and what truck trillion said is horrible. >> he was not shot down, he was tortured and his bones were broken and he has difficult raising his arms above his heads. it is not just that he was shot down. but i wonder if the tone is changing. the media love that he is in the race because he is good copy and he sells papers and good for ratings and good for clicks. he called john mccain dummy and john mccain started this by saying we donald trump is firing up the crazies and we wallow in it. but there is something about the john mccain comments that have turned the coverage particularly negative give. >> for donald trump when he was making the unambiguous remarks about mexico this have always
been short-term mileage derived from those companies. there is very little mileage derived from disparaging the war record of john mccain. i would say though, to the question of whether we take him seriously as a presidential candidate, those who are most obliged are the other republican candidates particularly those from whose bucket of voters we could expect donald trump could steal votes. >> president obama held a lengthy news conference to defend the nuclear deal with iran. what got the most tax was this exchange between cbs correspondent major garrett and the president. >> can you tell the country sir, why you are content with all of the fanfare around, to leave the conscious and strength of this nation unaccounted for in relation to the four americans? >> the notion that i am "content," as i celebrate with american citizens, languishing in iranian jails?
major...that is none sense. you should know better. >> a lost journalists are saying that questioned the wording. >> i have known major a long-term and i consider him a friend and i have said i thought his framing of the question erred too much on the side of provocative but i said and i think it is true that the president, to come to the bait in a sense and he should not have, no one could remember in modern presidential history a president of the united states scolding or rebuking a reporter in a briefing setting like this. the closest is in 1974 when dansked richard nixon a question and nixon said are you running and he said, no, sir are you? i think that the president could simply have said something like,
major, there was so much objectionable abut the framing of your system timing does not permit us to go for it. >> vitally important question how we made the deal with iran and yet four americans including a "washington post" reporter are held but when you said "are you content," it seemed provocative. >> he personalized the question and that was awkward. it is legitimate, how could you cut this deal and celebrate when we have the hostages but to me the most interesting part of the story is, you have a journalist asking a tough question of a politician about a journalist who is being held captive and other journalists side with the president. there is some me terrible bias there. >> let me play the response of major garrett when he what asked on cbs this morning. >> the president believed i was suggesting he was content with the americans' captivity. that was not the basis of my question or my intent. personally i have done soul searching whether i have been
aggressive as a report on behalf of hot tans or americans held overseas. >> by responding to the personal slap president obama may have given that question a thousand times more attention than it would receive otherwise. >> i have never seen president obama that upset, i don't recall a time where i have seen that anger come through so it is a personal question. major garrett should have taken the opportunity to say i over stepped my bounds because i think he did. the president answered the question that was asked after a berating him. all everyone remembers whether he went after major garrett. >> in terms of the gold rule coverage with iran and conservatives criticizing the deal before it was made and i wonder if there is a deal they would have approved of and the liberals kind of defending it, it depends on what the iranian say, you spent two weeks in vienna covering the john kerry team.
do you think the coverage has matched what you saw? >> i would say that there is a deal that conservatives would have welcomed which would be one that matched the terms the 39 and his aides laid out two years ago calling for the dismantlement of the iranian nuclear apparatus. it did not happen. if you followed this chessly u had a good requested of what wasening discussed in the negotiating room behind closed doors from the americans. >> from american sources? >> or the reason you have that good idea of what was corner up in knoxs at one point or another because the other multilateral parties to this, britain france germany are more talkative than the americans and they would tell the americans what is going on and we would rush to the american sides to have them clam up on us. >> let me get a break. remember to ask a question on twitter or make a comment. when we come back "new york times" obtain add deposition where bill cosby admitted to
sexual satisfaction with him and matt lewis some thought the media went too far giving a big platform to the well over 30 women who accused cosby of sexual assault and rape years ago. does that lucrative against now? >> yes the right thing to do and the facts seem to verify that now it looks like they are too late, the media should have been more aggressive. >> for years this was --. >> but it is understandable why. we confuse him with his character. he has a positive portrayal of a black family, heroic man in many ways and sadly with the finch thing happening where are the heroes. >> it is tragic. >> does the deposition now that we have the full deposition, settle the debate once and for all? is this a conviction in the court of public opinion? >> i think the conviction happened two or three months ago when the comic went out and said black men pull up your pants and why don't you pull up your pants
and they came out of the woodwork. >> one two three -- 10, 15, and they are not related to each other. you are innocent until prove were guilty in the court of law but not in the court of public opinion by most reasonable people was convict add long time ago because so much of the circumstantial evidence, not legally, but defactor came to light. >> the presidential news conference that was predominantly devoted to iran, anything wrong with asking off topic question about rescinding the presidential medal of freedom? >> she asked about the criminal justice reforms. >> three-part question. >> no, it is all right for someone holding a news conference to say i will only take questions on subject x and all right for the voters said i would like to ask about why?
where bill cosby's concern and where this deposition now surfacing is concerneddings the question for the media covering bill cosby going forward how do you, what shorthand description do you use? do you say comic bill cosby and admitted rapist? i don't think you will see the second formulation but it is a question that editors will wrestle with. >> a lot of people have grappled with some because so many like cosby and respect his role the trailblazer racial figure on television going pack to the comedy and no comment now from the cosby camp now his own words are hanging him. >> by the way the reason the question was asked there was a petition drive by the sexual awareness group whose spoke cosby accused -- i said that she gave a deposition in the decade old lawsuit but what happened the case was settled before she was able to testify.
donald trump told m donald trump told me he understated the net worth and said he is worth more over $10 billion to be exact. and over 14 years of apprentice, nbc paid him $213 million. that touched off a bizarre and heated argument between two msnbc hosts who had experiences as a producer on "west wing."
>> here it s. >> if you see what his salary is from nbc from yesterday --. >> total lie. total lie. it is a lie. let me explain. donald trump --. >> let me tell you you are so out of bounds. donald trump makes $1 million on one of the most --. [ talking simultaneously ] >> this has been a declining show with two good show not going and declining ever since. >> you are rambling and ranting. [ talking simultaneously ] >> that got ugly. you would think this was an argument about iranian nucleares but it was a shot at his 10:00 p.m. show and on twitter "no to morning joe," try to reserve
your inaccurate descriptions to when i am on the set to correct you." wait the story is weirder. donald trump called in during a break and offered to bet o'donnell a year's salary that the apprentice numbers were accurate. >> o'donnell delivered the answer that night. >> no, donald, there is not a bet because i would not bet about anything. i might be wrong. i never said i know exactly how much donald trump made if the expire series. i don't know. now, i am really sorry that i wasted the time that should have been focused on what he had to say. >> i am glad he calmed down. media, still is buzzing about donald trump and donald trump called in to abc and to fox this morning about the john mccain comments and he said, yes, john mccain is a war hero but doesn't back off or retreat. he refused several questions or opportunities to apologize.
mike huckabee was the surprise story of the 2008 campaign after largely being es >> mike huckabee was the surprise story in the last presidential campaign and now he is launching his second white house campaign and we sat down in washington. >> mike huckabee, welcome. you talk how you have been working since you were 14, talked to people in the kitchens when you campaign and you have worked jobs like chick-fil-a but do the media pigeonhole you as a social issues candidate. >> they may try. the people who hear me know it is not the issues i focus on.
i don't have to prove my bona fides on the issues...maybe sanctity of life or same-sex marriage or those issues because people know i have been clear and bold and consistent. i spend my time talking about the issues of bring a real sense of economic empowerment to people who have just been beaten down by a system that makes it hard to climb up the ladder through the middle class. >> same-sex marriage is a program then exception because after the supreme court ruling you said you will not acquiesce so an imperial court and you talk about having separate branches of government but it sounded to some like you are just not going to accept the ruling by the high court. >> we should accept the constitutional form of government that has three branches equal to each other and the court cannot make a law. congress has to make a law. the president has to sign it and has to be enforced. the courts can declare something
unconstitutional but they don't get the power to write what constitutional law is. >> you do not feel the states have a legal obligation to follow the supreme court ruling and grand marriage listens? >> it depends if the legislature enable that? a lost states do not have the language written into the statutory authority of the state to carry those things out. until someone has decided in the other two broom byes that is, in fact the correct interpretation of the constitution, if you let the judicial branch have carteblanche you have the practice of judicial supremacy. >> in 2008 you got no attention from the mainstream press before the iowa caucus which you won.
this time around you are not getting as much attention and more crowded field. do you see a pattern? >> there is a certain media narrative. the media decides this guy is a contender for reasons that do not make sense to the voter. certainly not to the candidates. look it is the way it is. i could complain about it but the best thing to do is win. when you win it is hard to be ignored. >> another thing you have done a lot of interviews in contrast to hillary clinton who has done one national tv interview so far. is it important for candidates to sit down in these sessions? >> if a person runs for president no one should be president if they are unwilling to answer the questions. not just the press questions. you have to take unfiltered questions from unemployed truck drivers and house wives and people who have been hit by obama care or maybe someone who lost their job as a welder,
these are real people you are asking to give you the highest office in the land. the phony get a group of carefully selected people to ask pre-selected questions ought to be rejected out of hand. the best thing is media should say we will not cover any candidate who is so pretentious to think they can script their campaign like it is a hollywood sitcom. >> it is not just the liberal media narrative about you. you give criticism to the right saying it is a vanity campaign and they don't like you talk about entitlement programs and you sound like a liberal. >> they said i don't tipping mike huckabee is serious i think he is doing it because he want as television show a book show and to help the speeches and i am thinking, are you people not service i had a television show,
i had a book deal and i was doing all the speeches i could squeeze into my calendar. i walked away from an incredibly healthy income to run because i believe the country needs experienced leadership but not just the kind of blind partisan, i will do what the party expects but leadership that says let the riding tide float the boats of all americans. that is the kind background i haves -- have as governor in arkansas. >> you had a show on fox but do you like journalists personally? have they been fair? >> overall they have. take 100 journalists and i find find ten or a dozen that were not fair but that is life. there are voters that don't like me either. my gosh, howard, there are people in i my own family that department like me on any given day. that is part of the process. i have said if you can't stand the sight of your own blood then
for heavens sake don't run for public office. it is a brutal experience. >> in interviews likely people ask you about donald trump and you say he does not need more publicity. given the state department to which donald trump now is dominating the campaign debate and the media debate, maybe that is open us, don't you have to get in the rhetorical arena? >> no. he has a campaign. i have a campaign. this is like olympic swimming, everyone has a lane. if you want to win in the olympics you better swim in your own lane. you get in someone else's both you of you are disqualified. the last thing i want to do is worry about jeb bush or marco rubio or rick perry or anyone else is saying. it will not drive my message and i will not change my message because someone else is saying either different than me or maybe saying something like they stole from me which there are a few of those lines out there
too. >> at one point you took on beyonce for saying she was too sexually suggestive and jay-z is a pitch for exploiting his wife as a sex object and you said that is just half a page in the book. by putting it in there you knew it would draw a lot of attention. >> there were things in the book i not would be controversial and i made a list of eight or nine things that wrote blow up and be controversial and amazingly those did not turnout to be the controversial points. the brief reference and aside to beyonce it never occurred to me that would be such a media firestorm. >> you were governor for 10 1/2 years and at that time overwhelming d legislature but the media are so focused on what is hot now the latest rhetoric, can you respond to this or that, is the emergency of what you did and you think you accomplished
in arkansas could even get through. >> it will at some point. people are hiring someone to be president. when you hire someone maybe the first thing that gets your attention is the more outrageous things the sexy things bun we you -- but we get to the question who do we hire? did this person have the capacity to lead? >> having a tv show, that was a good experience. i have governed a challenging state, and that was amazingly hard and i spent 6 1/2 years talking about people who run for office and hold office and to be honest thats what the easiest job i ever had and it paid better than anything i have ever done and i loved it. i miss it but if i was doing what was comfortable and what was lucrative i would have
stayed but i feel like our country is in trouble i got five grand skids now and i don't want to be one of those guided that ended up with a comfortable life for myself at the expense of my grandkids. >> mike huckabee thank you. >> the easiest job he ever had. after the break campbell brown has jeb bush and others lined up to talk about education reform now that there has been a lead from tv anchor to advocacy. and "new york times" getting whacked for asking female tennis players about the shape of their
wn campbell brown was fed up with television after giving up a career with nbc and cnn and is pushing education reform but is it news? i spoke to her earlier from new york. >> campbell brown welcome. >> it is great to be here and good to see you. let's start with the decision to leave a prime time cnn show. you say you could not compete in the ratings against bill o'reilly. was that frustrating? >> of course it was. life is an evolution. my career in television certainly was. i loved very much being a
reporter. what i struggled with as an anchor and when i did the show at cnn how ratings driven it was and how it is almost impossible to not get caught in that. my staff looked at the ratings each day at 4:00 and being either demoralized or so excited based on that number. it is almost impossible for that number sometimes to not drive editorial decisions. that was frustrating and took the joy out of journalism. >> is that polarizing cable news? >> it pushes you to do things that are not very worthwhile or beneficial, more generally. we cover a lot more celebrity scandal or crime than is necessary or we shoulden white -- than we should because it get as pop. the shouting matches give you a boot. women drive us to more
confrontation am-style interviews. >> let me shout this next question you say much of your year at nbc you were a substitute on the nightly news, was the network tarnished by brian williams mess? >> look, i have so many friends there because i worked there 11 years and it was heartbreaking for me to talk to them because it was so hard what they were going through but no, over the long run there are great journalists there. lester holmes who took over with my co-anchor for a very long time he is outstanding journalist and a dear, dear friend and an amazing person so putting him in that relative will quiet things down and stabilize the ship so to speak. they could not have made a better choice. people are moving on already. >> now you have started this website on education reform do you feel liberated from
constraints of journalism? >> yes! >> how does that feel? >> it feels great. more people should try it. i have been having this debate with a lot of people an the new role because prior to launching the 74 i was working more on the advocacy side around education issues and i am asked are you an advocate? are you a journalist? i found having come from the old school journalism background where i was hired by russert and mentored by tom brokaw and we were of the mine set there are two sides to every reporter and our role is to play referee where now i feel like journalism has lost credibility with the audience over the years. they do not believe we can be truly objective. i don't movie that is possible. we all come to every story with our own life experience that create as bias for us all.
maybe it is better to be honesty about your bias and your positions and opinions you have when you go into a story and if we were that could go a long way to restoring our credibility with the audience not buy the objectist line anyway. >> one of the stories or union website and you were hiring journalists saying no one knows how hillary clinton will govern on education and the american federation of teachers is endorsing her and you clashed with the teachers union. you learned that not every story has two sides. is that really true? or more of an advocate's point of view? >> i give you an example the story ma brought me to education as an issue i became passionate about that i read in the daily news about the 14 teachers, two found guilty of sexual misconduct with kids who kept their jobs. who could argue that is good? that problem exists in new york that protects the teachers and prevents them from being
removed. that is crazy. it is impossible for anyone to argue it is okay. i wrote about that or spoke up about it, there is a special interest group and a lot power and they when crazy. in journey him we defer sometimes, and we are afraid to take positions when we see sways like that and that equivalency hurts us in our credibility and when there is a clear moral should we should speak out especially when it involves children. >> you are speaking out now and a lot of people think journalists should be more open and now you have an opportunity to push this. >> great to see you. campbell group. >> does "new york times" have a problem with serena williams and other female tennis stars for not looking feminine i was diagnosed with lung cancer. as a firefighter approaching a fire i had to confine it, contain it and attack it.
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>> the day before serena williams won wimbledon the nationality focused on her muscular frame in contrast to the others who suggested that perceived ideal feminism body types can seem at odds with the best any seize for tennis success, a job for host of fox' sports court from new york. >> tamara holder, welcome. >> thanks for having me. >> should "new york times" have published this piece questioning whether muscular tennis players like serena williams are at odds with the feminine body image? >> look, it is free speech but "new york times" can post whatever they want but it is a little ridiculous because who are in 2015, i think and women have rights and they can have as
muscular arms as they want or be as thin as they want. it is tragic of this newspaper that is read by millions of people to target serena williams and her buffed arms as if it is something so bad. >> now something i liked is that serena williams and others were interviewed and she said she is comfortable with the physique and another player said that she doesn't like some of the arm bulging pictures of herself because i just feel uneminem so some professional female athletes are some what conflicts on the question. >> look, people don't like kim kardashian's bulging buttocks but she sells millions of books and one of the most photographs and admired beautiful women on the planet. >> she is offer cover of rolling zone now. >> and her large breasts are
that is out there. so bulging body parts on women are actually a good thing and last i checked men really like that. i don't think there is any wrong. the european tennis players who are making the comments saying that she want to be thin or look like a woman well, that is great but you are not number one in the world so maybe you should pump some iron. thank you is the thing i understand this is a good talker but these are athletes who are supposed to be trying to win championships not be professional models, right? >> and a lot of it is, you have genes on one hand and you also have training style on the other hand and what works for you. there are plenty of people who are built very slimly and serena williams also has arms compared to michelle obama she is known
for beautiful arms. >> in the brief time you are not shy about posting pictures of yourself on instagram in a sports bra but do you think the media is too hung up on how much skin the female athletes or celebrities or journalists show? >> i don't know if it is the media or the right wing who get so upset how much a woman shows at the end of day sex sells. different body styles for different people. i think women are beautiful. we should embrace our curves and the more curves, the more rhode islander. >> tamara holder embracing her curves thanks very much for swatting it around with us today. >> thank you! >> still to come, your top tweets why the media are savaging donald trump and gawker does something rare on a sextory after an -- sex story
the witness gawker has taken down a major news story not tied to legal or fact you'll reasons saying a top media executive agreed to pay a gay important star $2,500 for an encounter before backing out and the founder said the point of the story was not "sufficient to offset the embarrassment to the subject and his family." a candid admission and a blow against pointless 10 playerness. >> was major garrett or president obama over the line on the question of being content with american hostages remaining in iran? >> major garrett was way over the line insulting and disrespectful in an attempt to be provocative. >> another it was a fair question this is what happens when you have a president who isn't used to being challenged.
>> another neither was over line garrett was right and the president had the right to act indignance. >> the art of the insult has worked for donald trump a product of new york's tabloid culture picking on rosie or seinfeld he always grabs headlines but now he is a presidential candidate, donald trump often is his own worst enemy. it is one thing to say rick perry should get new glasses and another to make light of the captivity of john mccain tortured as a vietnam p.o.w. and this misfire by the media gives ammunition to the pundits would say he is unguided missile and never apologizes. the journalists are turning on donald trump and that not solve his problem. that is this "media buzz," i am howard hurts. we post a lot of original
content on our ace book page so send us an e-mail. back here next sunday as we are every sunday 11 o'clock and americans in mourning as the fbi addition for answers in the deadly shootings of our military troops at home in tennessee. i'm harris faulkner. this is "the fox reporter." a memorial at one shooting site is growing. friend and total strangers putting flowers and american flags to pay respects to the servicemen killed. we learned the sailor who survived for a couple of days has passed away. the fbi interviewing the shooter's friend who received a text message referencing part of the koran. that could be a clue as to why a 24-year-old gunman would drive to more than one location to take out our americans i