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[cheers and applause] john: the phrase american dream came with a book written in the midst of the depression america is that dream of a land where life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone and for many people the dream has come true but now ayatollah something is wrong. it is no longer accessible is it suffering or alive and well? 75 percent said suffering. is that true? how many of you think is as achievable as it was before? [cheers and applause] how many of you feel not so
much? [applause] pray pessimistic. what a man who people say has lived the dream to creative for medical dash many others is called the most powerful man and lost a is. steve when -- steve steve wynn. they like you. [laughter] you are self-made multi billionaire and how did you do that? i am told the town was seedy but you built hotels that were more appealing but i would think a lot of people had that idea. >> ideas are easy but doing it is difficult. john: what was difficult? i am not a billionaire. >> first of all, having the
benefit of the fis has coeducation that i got to go to college. when my father died we were broke. >> he was in debt $350,000. >> but i had everything i needed to make of life for myself or real life not by twitter or facebook. o real life. not to a virtual was. [laughter] [applause] by all they cared to get on with it. get on with it. to hustle suitor later you get a break. i was interested to get started. john: you were a manager of a hotel. >> before that i was at the university of pennsylvania running being go --.
[laughter] i had 60 employees and i was 16 years old. with my dad died that was the only thing that was left of the family business for cry was prepared to do it i didn't know anything other than making bingo a better experience next week and the week after. john: then you were chairman of the golden nugget hotel. >> by gatt -- i got a chance to run the place it had blackjack tables and a gift shop and a parking lot. all of a sudden the chief financial answer resaw have a was put together and how works and saw that las vegas was not in the gambling business. that looks like it to me.
[laughter] >> all slot machines are anywhere. i learned about the casino people move through which they keep going and the money stays behind. [laughter] so i came into ruth to conclusions to get people through it what brings them to the casino? people come to las vegas and is a with china toward new jersey or mississippi to live life bigger than they do at home. for the environment that is well done and though lighting that is very important for every year ago you are emotionally affected by the lighting and the sound of the soundtrack is very important to. environment is everything. john: could you build that today the way you did?
>> short answer yes. we can make an argument of overregulation americans don't get a good deal with their government with h.r. is not as good as it should be. but the person who has those genes it is happening right now there are thousands of americans they're finding their groove to make it. what gets you that is inside space they never want. you have to getting it there are people in america getting it now with things going on with silicon valley john: i agree i think that includes facebook beyond twitter that crotchety old man that you trash. [laughter] but i ask people to follow
me on twitter is the american dream still alive? they say no. it stifles on entreprenuers. it would be tougher today i assume. >> a lot of things have changed but beside facebook and twitter which is heavily publicized one thing about social media it is about every petty talking too much [laughter] john: people should talk to each other. >> but not at the extent -- extent of afterlife exchanging what you eat. i am friendly with rupert brooke -- rock -- murdoch. >> key is my boss. >> he came to see me in the office and said you have to
have a twitter account i said why? i have no interest to share what i do every day with a group of strangers. you don't understand you can have a platform. rupert murdoch does it. i said he does not. i get up from the chair i went to my desk and picked myself on with the speed dial and got him. i said there are two guys here from twitter they tell me you have a twitter account. he said i'd do steve. [laughter] you do? and i have $247,000 -- to order 47,000 followers. i was speechless. why did you do that? is set every once in awhile i will tweet something out to. it was a check may.
see you later. and it shows i don't know what i am talking about. [laughter] john: thank you steve wynn another man who worked his way to use the top to make his company extra successful responsible for though weird sexual advertisements. >> what is more american the and a cheeseburger? this one coated with a hot dog and potato chips in the hands of an all american model in a hot tub in a pickup truck driven by the american bull rider on the aircraft carrier under the liberty as she admires the most americans take burger new act carl's, jr. >> he took over the company
that was in debt just four years later making hundreds of millions of dollars. what did you do that your predecessor did not? >> the service was bad in the restaurants were dirty. i knew the problem right away. john: were they they see? >> my second memo was the next person and answers the question was something to the effect we have always done it that way will be fired. my first memo was no more people behind the counter of less they have all their teeth. [laughter] was of a situation that needed to be addressed. that we still had a problem all the elderly people felt comfortable with parties they did not feel it was a restaurant for them. we did that with an advertising campaign to appeal to the young people so we targeted the young and hungry men.
that worked very well. john: you don't worry that the anti-discrimination in task force will set you have to hire a certain number of people with no teeth? [laughter] >> it is funny to be a lawyer myself i knew enough not to ask the legal department first. but i send it anyway. >> you started scooping ice cream. >> minimum wage and never thought i could support a family of four, up and i learned a lot about customer service and inventory. it was the first deck of the latter. john: would pay taxes or cut bill wants but now there are new rules about the age and minimum-wage they say it is
fair you cannot pay them so little. >> i have a 68 year-old son and i love him but there is no way in the world that would pay him $12 an hour. we're this degeneration of people because we eliminated the jobs had paid them $50 an hour to scoop ice cream? how good could you be? you just can compensate somebody like that. >> how do lift everybody to $15 an hour to not have various economic problems? people and the jobs in the opportunity and the dignity they were sure that is what most of your experience but then reduce jobs.
>> the only way that you can reduce poverty an increased opportunity is economic growth the government cannot do when and there is enough economic growth to reduce poverty which is the free market capitalism. [cheers and applause] which is under attack by rebel well intended regulation and. >> shanghai's china's 63. real engaged restaurant on karl marx avenue is siberia in los angeles it takes 280.
[laughter] i can open-air restaurant easier in siberian dash california. [applause] john: what are the rules? what do they want to know? >> the permits with stoplights and plant trees two blocks away everybody on the planet once approval from the city and county and the state and federal regulatory requirements we now have the single spaced list for every restaurant reopening california that is 60 and single spaced pages is you cannot build the new wal-mart or grouchy store or office building if you cannot use the land with the regulatory process.
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[n][applause] john: we are back and freedom fest sansei the american dream is alive because i am white but my parents are immigrants who came dead broken did not speak english but they made it but they were white it is much easier for white people i am told and i hear this all the time from activists and politicians running the center for urban renewal and education you were on welfare? >> i bought the lie of the left my problem is somebody else's fault i had very
reckless with that drug activity and sexual activity and in and out of welfare. >> i was collecting a lot i was on a long waiting list for section 8 after a christian conversion change my way about the idea of freedom and opportunity. john: but not a libertarian conference. [laughter] >> but i have to tell you how libertarian guy was when i started a business. christianity change my world my perspective but when i went into business to find out how the heavy-handed government was i began to trend very right. [laughter] [n][applause] john: government makes it harder but is it tougher because you are black?
>> it is interesting with the narrative of the left. is it tougher for someone to achieve if they are not white? who says it is harder? how many say it is not harder? the majority here. >> fame understand american exceptionalism and the dream so one to grab ahold of that you can be what everyone did america and now they will die for america it is somebody else's fault so they keep the narrative alive so day have discouragement.
john: i have that with our facebook response. the american dream is alive and well if you happen to be born white and straight and mail with all the parents. >> we keep hearing this. it is untrue but with those dynamics. >> the american dream ended when the war on poverty began. >> it did for some. and in particular the disproportionately hits black people because she by the lie that the government will take care of you then you are trapped and they reward you for ill behavior than it is hard to get out i was there. it is very difficult you find all about the services available you are committing
social suicide to have economic discomfort because once you leave you have to try harder. john: you are discouraged from being buried 893181 -- 1940 the black marriage rate was higher than and right -- the whites but the idea is of progressivism but it affects them also. eight lew 3% at of wedlock to more than 30 percent today. john: thank-you. >> another enemy of the american dream those that
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claims are a con job? [n][applause] john: i thank you one that. >> put it to the empirical test. >> we are both alive. >> i will be we will see how the audience does you say you are for artificial foods >> they are all chemicals. [laughter] but we will not debate the healthy food today but what government says how they achieve their american dream them monopoly. they are ruthless -- ruthlessly undercut they can charge river they want that is why we need anti-monopoly laws with the ftc in a suit
you to be a monopoly. >> i know. it is unbelievable they said we were a monopoly of premium and natural organic foods supermarkets. [laughter] which we invented that. [laughter] [n][applause] our argument was safeway, all wal-mart or costco sprouts or trader joe's the also products similar there is no barriers to entry it is a very competitive market. john: you lost a and had to sell 32 stores. >> we will lend but we spent 30 million in legal expenses but the ftc has their own courts and they told us after we won in the federal courts they would take us to their courts i said what will they cost pacesetter
said all the way to prove your innocence will probably cost another 100 million so we did the math and we compromised. john: is there any a time we should stop the monopoly? >> take the public school system for example,. [cheers and applause] john: your point is you can only be a monopoly when there is government force. >> capitalism is so dynamic and competitive you can get temporary competitive of vintages but people come along to imitate that and say in a vague a leapfrog and you don't need the government to protect people from monopolies because the market does. john: not long ago general motors was.
>> a role is talking about breaking of general motors and the last time i checked today actually went bankrupt how does a monopoly go bankrupt? >> now they say it is google >> there is always of boogie man to have a temporary competitive vantage if you take microsoft able never know for sure unless bill gates writes his memoir but it was pretty soon after his antitrust case he decided i to be the richest man in the world and be hated or i can become a philanthropist and the rebate will love me and certainly negates foundation has done great stuff you can say they did more good making money. >> microsoft has made lives better in many ways and what has it done since bill gates retired? >> now you can be sued for being a monopoly if your
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contest -- freedom fest. one thing that does get in the way of the dream it is government and a big government kills the american dream that is why the cato institute dave day talks at this conference earlier called him in progress and downsizing government [n][applause] it gets in the way of human progress. >> absolutely the federal government has 2,300 subsidy programs that cause damage and harm the economy to make people dependent and reduce our freedom. farmers are happy to get $20 billion per year from the government but there
reduces their freedom because it tells them what they can farm and how many acres so federal spending reduces freedom by in addition to all the damage. john: but spending is spending for job training, food stamps to help people to help them achieve the dream. >> know the difference every dollar the government spends a half to get it from some place either taxes or borrow it or they just print the money provides government gets big with more economic help but the growth rate falls there is a reason why france and italy grossed over them as also why hong kong and singapore erg grow faster. there is a relationship between economic growth anti-government. john: we grew fastest with a
little government. >> right. of all the way through a calvin coolidge but in the '30's that made the difference with the invention of keynesian economics or the entire opprobriums -- and tenement programs. we had a recession and we recovered very quickly but there was a recession in the 1920's but then the economy started growing very quickly john: without big government we destroy the planet? >> federal spending damages the environment and california has a terrible drought partly the responsibility of the government has been subsidizing water that causes over consumption farmers are forming what they shouldn't be that is at the roots of the problem. the subsidies cause distortion one of the
biggest polluters is the federal government agencies. [applause] >> some say we have to balance the budget but you say that is not politically realistic and we don't have to? they say okay but we will raise taxes but simply to have it grow slower than the private sector over time. there is a long last where you say would is a list of countries? they have greece and france and italy. >> this will continue to grow just more slowly? >> we want government to shrink dramatically but have they grow at 2 percent per year if you maintain that with an insignificant period of time then the burden of
government will shrink amazingly for every year since the '30's government has grown more than inflation. >> are dead is higher than it ever has been is immoral and bad for the economy and it is corrupting. [applause] john: chris adverts and dan mitchell. someone much more optimistic about the american dream than i am. good for him.
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john: we are at freedom fest to talk about the american dream house government often kills us as it does it keeps growing and it depresses me bed grover norquist keeps smiling president for americans for tax reform has fought that tax simplification for 30 years and you have failed. is less simple than it ever
was taxes are higher why are you so cheerful? >> the majority of the members of that task -- of the house we have not had a tax increase as long as the republicans controlled the house we stopped the bleeding as long as they can hold up one part of the government. obama what did trillions of higher taxes and republicans said no tax increase period we have to run a half trillion of spending restraint with 23 percent of gdp that is the federal government to stop the bleeding and it takes new leadership. john: politician say we have to get rid of this. >> is the one big victory the american people have against illicit and obamacare.
but look to the states to see freedom flourish. home school was illegal and allstate's 30 years ago ted million are now being home school that is breaking into the monopoly. [applause] thirty years ago nowhere did a government have to give you a permit if you were 21 and on this but today 41 states all allow them least mae issued 12 million americans have concealed carry permit. to me that there is outrage is the complexity of how long it takes to understand your taxes. >> nine states have no income tax hike kansas and north carolina which are on a path to get rid of there's.
the states competing with each other california and in your big move to texas and florida that should give us a hint as to where they want to go but that empowers the low tax limited government states. how else are we changing? 401k about half the country now has defined contribution plans and owning shares of stock. but that makes it more complex one out of three small businesses spend more than 80 hours per year just on federal taxes? >> i am not arguing they are good. it is very bad we pay water 2% of income in taxes. but now we are at about 30%
but i would argue what we have done at the stable is billed for school choice we now have the education and savings accounts that is the dynamic form of vouchers. john: the biggest the voucher program in the country. [applause] to make the government monopoly is fading as a monopoly because arizona indian a louisiana nevada florida wisconsin states have very robust school choice efforts, and the other team's argument was if you don't run everything inside the public school monopoly, they will be wicken schools and do organ harvesting in private schools and all sorts of horror stories and people got lescared.ed now that there are enough people with enough experiments and enough of the states people realize that's nonsense. the movement towards liberty at
the state level i think is tough to stop. here's the advantage we have over state of thes. truly stupid things can only be done out of washington, d.c. you can't do obamacare in vermont alone. bad ideas, truly bad ideas only can be put in, obamacare, at the national level. because we have divided competition. >> where there's no competition. where there's no competition and if everybody is suffering it's not clear what do it. who knows what it was? maybe it was the weather. >> technology is making things better. uber, for instance. who thought we could take on the taxi commissions which require $200,000 medallions to drive a, tea whichch restrict that self-employed people beating the taxi cab commissions. air bnb. people can decide i think i'll be a small business person all by myself. the post office, how are you going to deal with it? e-mail, and the size and power of the post office shrinks as people use e-mail. online sales have broken down
and allowed for more competition. >> thank you, grover far quest. we're all better off because of americans. >> coming up, maybe we should be optimistic about the american dream becauseti throughout histy the pessimists like me have repeatedly been proven wrong. hay [ applause ] wrong. ♪ we all feel the calling to build something great. ♪
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>> is the american dream still alive? it's hard to be optimistic about our financial future walking around this conference because so many people here are promoting buying gold, and they say things like sleep at night knowing your assets are safe. and, hey, they have a point, because our politicians keep promising people more free stuff, so much more than taxpayers could ever fund, that i assume that these paper dollars that i have here, i mean, these some day will be worth pennies. people forget that since the fed was created just 100 years ago the dollar has lost 96% of its value. so i bought some gold and silver. i know gold and silver, they will hold their value more than these pieces of paper the
government calls dollar bills, except so far i've lost money in my gold and silver investment. how many of you have invested in gold? [ applause ] unless you bought it way back, you haven't done so well, so when will inflation explode? it's still low. who knows. these predictions are risky. i assume it has to explode sometime because there's just not enough money for what they have said they will give to people. but this pessimism about america's future has been a bad bet. in school today still students study paul samuelson's textbooks to learn economics but in the 500s samuelson tout although the american economy approaches soviet growth the planned soviet economy has outpaced major market economists. what? this is utterly wrong, and yet
samu samuelson is still the text that students are forced to buy. it's good to be skeptical that samuelson and other experts predict america's future, and when pessimists like me say oh, it's the regulation. there's more all the time. that's killing the american dream, be skeptical and facebook matthew keller posted, my wife's age grant. only been here four years and in that time she makes more money than a lot of americans. what people don't realize is that to succeed you must take risks. taking risks. that's a good point. this is a country that evolved differently from europe. for some reason america became a place where if you tried something and fail, it's okay. people will even lend you money so you can try again. in europe and asia, people often say, what? you failed. go work for someone.
had you your chance, but america's more tolerant of trial and error. we know about thomas edison's success with the light bulb, but few people know that edison failed hundreds of times. he was fired by the telegraph office. he lost money on his cement company and iron business. henry ford's first company failed completely. dr. suess's first book was rejected by 27 publishers and oprah was fired from her first job as a reporter. a tv station called her unfit for tv. they all failed and tried again. america's a place where as dinesh desidesa pus it you can write the script of your own life so when pessimists say idiot, burdensome government regulation and high taxes have killed opportunity i hope you will ignore me and prove me
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