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kimber kimberly, robin kelly, a champ. catherine. the new york city urban debate league. my nephew garrett. the liberal panel, fiorina is her poll numbers skyrocket. i'm chris wallace. today the consensus winner of the republican debate, carly fiorina, only on fox news sunday. >> problems have festered in washington too long and the potential for this nation is being crushed. i think trump is a wonderful entertainer. he's been terrific at that business. if you want to stump a democrat, ask him to name an accomplishment of mrs. clinton. >> we'll go inside her campaign to see her up close and personal and watch as she tries to capitalize on her breakout performance. >> oh, you know, that's the woman who is running for president. >> and we'll sit down with the gop's new hip candidate to
discuss her plans for the country and her controversial record in business. it's a "fox news sunday" exclusive. then, pope francis is coming to the u.s. after a first stop in cuba. we'll have a live report from havana and preview the pope's trip to the u.s. with two catholic leaders. the archbishop of washington, cardinal donald whirl and thomas roseca, an adviser. and the u.s. fighting for us in syria. >> it's a small number. we're talking 4, 5. hello again from fox news in washington. carly fiorina not only moved up to the main stage in the latest republican debate, she dominated it. establishing herself as a top tier candidate. we'll have an exclusive interview with fiorina in a moment.
but first fox news senior national correspondent john roberts got special behind-the-scenes access to the fiorina campaign the last few days. she was taking her victory lap. >> carly! carly! >> in what amounts to the political blink of an eye, carly fiorina has become the new darling of the republican party. so what's different since the first debate or before the first debate? in terms of the number of people who are coming out, the people -- >> well, the different number of people is huge. less of a security and more of an, oh, that's the woman running for president. >> in the town center of michigan, fiorina was mobbed. people at the library wanted to say they saw her, they spoke to her, they touched her. when you walked off the main stage, what was going through
your mind? >> well, at a very practical level what was going through my mind is i want to get off this stage now, i want to get out of these shoes, and i don't want to answer a single question more until tomorrow morning. >> reporter: her rise among 16 candidates would appear meteoric but the rise to get here was difficult. she spent much of the campaign in florida fighting breast cancer. she told me that fight gave her the courage to shoot for the highest office in the land. >> when you face a life threatening or a tragic situation, you lose a lot of fear. and so the things that might have caused you to be afraid about something, i'm not afraid. i'm really not afraid. >> does anything scare you? >> not really.
>> reporter: how do you feel when you come in here and you're about to give a speech? p palpitations? >> no, i feel hopeful, i feel excited. >> reporter: i had dinner with her and her adviser. frank always looks like he's worried about something. >> i call i'm eeyore. eeyore is always worried. >> with her new polls showing her leading the pack, fiorina and her team may have new issues to contend with. >> reporter: a lot of people say you're not in politics. >> it won't be the first time. i battled cancer, i buried a child. when you go through things like
that, you really have perspective. >> reporter: it was the death of fiorina's stepdaughter that provided one of the most poignant moments of last week's debate. lori fiorina died in 2009 after years of drug and alcohol addiction. as she told me about a poem lori wrote to her, fiorina showed a side of her persona the public has never likely seen before. >> it says basically i don't tell you enough i love you. and that's the thing, you know. when you lose someone, you realize you never say it. >> reporter: it's a perspective that keeps fiorina grounded through the highs and lows of the campaign, the criticism, the
adulation, the snulinsults. >> love is not measured in time, it's not measured in success or wealth, all these things we think it's measured in. it's measured in love and moments of grace and positive contribution. >> reporter: fiorina has a big opportunity this week to demonstrate her range to a broad audience. appearing on "the tonight show" with jimmy fallon on monday and then giving an interview in depth to the military academy on tuesday. chris? >> john wallace inside the campaign. john, thank you. i sat down earlier with carly fiorina to discuss her new momentum and some of the issues she'll have to confront. miss fiorina, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thank you, chris. thanks for having me. >> you've noted that up till now, more than half of republican voters didn't know
who you were. that's obviously changed with the debate, so i guess the question is, how pivotal a moment is this right now for your campaign? >> well, it's obviously a very important moment, because now more people know who i am, and we know, based on what's happened before this debate, that as people come to know me and they understand who i am and what i've done, and most importantly, what i will do, they tend to support me. and so the truth is, we're going to stay out here working hard every single who maybe were introduced to me for the first time at that debate now get to know a little bit more about me. these are important decisions, these are serious issues, and i want the american people to know as much about me as possible, actually. >> well, of course, with greater attention does come greater scrutiny. here's what you said about the political class in the debate. >> if someone has been in the system their whole life, they don't know how broken the system is. a fish swims in water. it doesn't know it's water.
it's not that politicians are bad people, it's they've been in that system forever. >> to make your point, you say how long have we been talking about entitlement reform but doing nothing about it? but ms. fiorina, isn't that really less about being part of the system and more about the fact that there are really, you know, sizeable, real differences between republicans and democrats? how would you as president get those two sides which both have their point of view to compromise? >> there are some real sizeable differences, for sure. the way, i believe, to bridge differences, the way to negotiate a good deal, and a lot of politics is negotiation. i've done a lot of negotiating in my life. you start out by stating very clearly what your principles are, what you must have, what your walkaway position is. there can't be any misunderstanding about that. it can't be everything, but it has to be something. then you enter into an open-minded spirit of collaboration about everything
else and try to find common ground. that's how i would work with members of congress. on the other hand, chris, there are some issues about which there really is broad bipartisan agreement and yet nothing gets done. how long have we been talking about broad bipartisan reform for tax reform? it doesn't happen. everybody says they want to secure the border. it doesn't happen. everybody says our va is a scandal, nothing changes. so there are a lot of things about which there is actually agreement and nothing is happening. >> i think it's fair to say your biggest moment of the debate was when you called for the defunding of planned parenthood. here that is. >> i dare hillary clinton, barack obama to watch these tapes, watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking while somebody says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain. this is about the character of our nation. and if we will not stand up and force president obama to veto
this bill, shame on us! >> first of all, do you acknowledge what every fact checker has found, that as horrific as that scene it, it was only described on the video by someone who claimed to have seen it? there is no actual footage of the incident you just mentioned. >> no, i don't accept that at all. i've seen the footage, and i find it amazing, actually, that all these supposed fact checkers in the mainstream media claim this doesn't exist. they're trying to attack the authenticity of the videotape. i haven't found a lot of people in the mainstream media who ever watched these things. they have claimed someone watched it for them. i continue to dare anyone who wants to continue to fund planned parenthood, watch the videotape. and anyone who wants to challenge me first is going to have to prove to me that they watched it. >> you want to defund planned
parenthood. let's talk about what the organization actually does. 4.4 million std testing and treatment, 3.5 million services of family planning, 935,000 cancer screening and prevention, 1.1 million other women's health services and, yes, 3,000 abortio abortions. i understand you're wanting to end abortion, but you want to cut off all the health screening? >> of course not. i'm a breast cancer survivor, and i want to move into aggression of making sure all women are screened. all those health services you just described are vital to be continued and, actually, vital to be expanded. of course, we should be funding those things. but i find it fascinating the democrats will never support taxpayer funding, for example,
for a women's health center right next door to a planned parenthood that would provide all those same services and also provide women an alternative to abortion. of course, those other services must be available to any woman and every woman. but that's not what this argument is about. this argument is about whether or not we as a nation are going to stand by while taxpayer money is being used to fund this kind of butchering. >> you brought up the term of taxpayer. you said we should defund planned parenthood as part of the budget battle that we're going to get at the end of this month even if that means we end up with a government shutdown, regardless of who is responsible for that government shutdown. carol tobias, who is the head of national right to life, has just written a column in which she says a shutdown would be a big mistake, that it's more important to get a pro-life
candidate. she said, quote, all of these goals are more he's skpl effectively achieved if the 71% of american voters opposed to a government shutdown aren't angry at prot-life candidates running for president. is she wrong? >> first, something very important has changed since the last government shutdown. what's changed is the republican party has the majority of votes in the house and we now control the majority of votes in the senate. a lot of people worked out there really hard in the nation to make that happen. i was one of them. i think people worked hard because they expected a change based on that majority. and i do think that people want to know what do we stand for? what does our party stand for? what do i stand for? and i will say once again, president obama can explain to the american people why it is so important to him to continue to
fund this organization that no one denies being engaged in this kind of barbarics. >> i want to talk about something that will be an issue in the campaign. back when you ran for senate in 2010, governments ran an ad against you. >> fiorina shipped jobs to china, and when californians lost their jobs, fiorina tripled her salary, bought a million-dollar yacht and a jet. >> question. why wouldn't those same facts, i 45% drop in the value of hp stock, why won't those things be again? >> first of all, politics is so orch often a fact-free zone, and that
ad is very misleading in many ways. yes, all of that will be brought up. it's important to remember that i led hp during the worst technology recession in 20 years. the technology stock dropped by 80%. it took 15 years for that stock index to recover. you're kind of selective because you're saying that dropped. by 2005 when you were let go, it had only dropped 23% which was only half what hp stock had dropped at that point. you were half as bad as the market was in 2005. >> yes, and that dropped again. i think if you look at it over 15 years, you will see that what i'm describing is correct. there are people who look at a stock one day at a time. i never led that way.
the job of a chief executive is to build sustainable share value over time. that is what we did. the hardest thing for a chief executive to do is to tell someone they don't have a job anywhere. that's why we provided the richest summit pak ajz, it's so they can be twitd to have a job. by the way, that's what we have in washington, d.c. then there are some jobs that have to go away. i will say as president of the united states, 256,000 baby boomers are going to retire out of the federal government in the next four or five years, and i will not replace a single one. >> there are questions that some of your rivals have brought up, and that is iran. at the time you were head of hp, there was a ban on any u.s. companies doing business with iran, but while you were head of the country, a european sib as i
had yaer of hp sold hundreds of millions of dollars of computer equipment for what tesd was violation for the sanctions against iran. how do you respond to that? >> first, hp, as you remember, was larger than each of the 50 states. it's a larger budget than any one of our 50 states and a global enterprise. so it's impossible to ensure that nothing wrong ever happens. the question is, what do you do -- the sec investigation proved that either of the subsidiaries were doing business with a company in the middle east. that company was doing business with another company that was doing business with iran, a
when the company discovered this three years after i left, they cut off all ties with those companies. e fcc investigated very thoroughly and concluded that no one in management was aware. >> at the time, that company that was making the sales to iran and you were the ceo of hp at the time, was named hp's who wholesaler of the year. how can it be they were doing all this business of iran, hp was calling it the wholesaler of the year and you didn't know what was going on? >> the wholesaler of the year that you're addressing was doing company with another business in china. that wholesaler was not honest in the dealings with us, and we were not into the other country. it's why they cut off the
company in a very thorough investigation and it's why charges were never filed. because it became clear that this third company was not honest or trustworthy. neither was the other organization that they were doing business with. it shouldn't have happened, obviously. >> ms. fiorina, we're going to have to leave it there. thank you so much for talking with us, and safe travels on the campai campaign trail. >> thanks, chris. up next, we'll bring in our sunday group to discuss the latest controversy involving donald trump. plus, what would you like to ask the panel about the changing state for the gop race? just go to facebook or twitter at "fox news sunday" and we may use your question on the air.
i am not obligated to defend the president every time someone says something bad or controversial about him. i don't think so, right? >> donald trump last night defending how he handled that question that he found at a new hampshire town hall earlier in the week. time now for our sunday groove, political analyst brett hume, carly lowe and charles lane from the "washington post." they thought they might handle
or dinh hadn't handle the quest and hillary clinton let him have it. here she is. >> he should have, from the beginning, repudiated that kind of rhetoric, that level of hatefulness in a questioner in an audience that he was appearing before. >> brett, given that, and you can see in this recent poll, 43% of republicans say they think mr. obama is a muslim, will this whole incident hurt donald trump or not? >> it certainly won't hurt him with the hard-core supporters who are backing him now, and partly because of the numbers reflected in the poll you just shown. but it will make some people say this guy is prone, he feeds ammunition to the other party and his critics. if he were nominated, there would be no end to this.
so it may raise doubts about him as a general election candidate, but i think the people who are supporting him now are not going to be daunted by this. >> we asked you for questions for the panel and we got this from richard mcelrath. he writes, do you think trump fever's finally broken or do you anticipate he'll continue to suck all the oxygen out of the republican race? the new poll shows trump at 24%, fiorina in second at 15%. that is a rise forna from a couple weeks ago. trump repeatedly calls you a total loser -- >> no, please, get it right. i'm a totally incompetent jerk. >> whatever. between the debate and the town
hall, do you think the trump trajectory has changed at all. how do you answer richard and how do you react to that poll? >> i think this basically began a couple weeks ago when he made his original comments about carly fiorina saying, look at that face, look at that face, the interview that's going to be printed in "rolling stone." we do have some evidence in this poll and there is some evidence in private polling that he has begun to decline. if you look at it from a month ago on cnn, he's down 6. also ben carson is down 5, and the person who went up more than anyone else is carly fiorina, 12, followed by marco rubio who has gone to 10. we're at the beginning of this process. as of now in 2012, rick perry was ahead at 29.9%. we had seven more leads before
it finally settled on mitt romney in 2012. the voting began in january, now the voting is going to begin in february. if we have the same kind of situation where the lead goes back and forth, it's going to be march or april before we settle on a number. >> there are other candidates in the race besides donald trump and carly fiorina. a lot of people thought marco rubio had a good debate and has gone up in the polls. people thought chris christie had a good debate, and jeb bush and ted cruz also had their moments. chuck, your sense of where the republican race is now? >> one thing that's interesting about the numbers, how this is referred to, they're still showing between 40 and 50% of the republican electorate favoring one or the other of the political outsider, people who haven't been in office before. then you have the groups, the rubio, the bush, the christie coming up there. what strikes me as interesting
is marco rubio has managed some, through both of these debates, without doing any harm to himself and a little bit of good. i think he is very well positioned to be the person, if anyone, who sort of rises out of the pack when the fascination with the outsiders fades, which i think it inevitably will, certainly in the case of trump. jeb is really challenged right now. he's not fitting in anywhere in particular, and it seems to me that rubio is the one very well positioned right now to pick up the pieces. >> meanwhile, there is a democratic race as well, and in that race, kirsten, bernie sanders is leading solidly in new hampshire, winning some of the polls in iowa, routinely getting much bigger crowds than clinton is. how much trouble is clinton is, and what's the latest on joe biden and whether he's going to enter the race or not? >> i think people are feeling more and more that it's more likely that joe biden is going
to get in but not get in, but the sense is he's got to do it pretty soon. there are a lot of filing deadlines that are coming up, and i think brookings did some study that showed if he waited until the end of september, he would forfeit a lot of the delegates, so he would have to get in. i think people are very concerned about hillary clinton, and that would be why there is this push for joe biden. there were 50 democrats who sent this letter to biden encouraemig him to get in. biden is very strong in new hampshire and iowa, in the early states, but once he starts moving to the south, it's not as territorial to him, it's much friendlier to hillary clinton, so there's a question if he can expand out of these more predominantly, liberally white areas. >> is the concern for clinton
the e-mail scandal and the underhanded way she handled it, or is it her campaign? >> i think it was the e-mails and her and her campaign didn't handle that issue properly. they let it get out of control and do a lot of damage. and it seems to a certain extent she's not as up to the task as people were expecting. it's a little bit of a rerun of 2008 where she doesn't seem to be able to respond to questions quickly. there is this sort of imperial attitude, you know, that she doesn't think she has to answer these questions, and people aren't enthusiastic about her. i think that's another issue. people are concerned that it's going to be the first woman president. people ought to be really excited. >> she spoke on friday at the university of new hampshire, small room, bernie sanders is speaking there on monday and more than a thousand people have
a live look at havana's resolution square where pope francis is celebrating a huge open air mass. it's the pontiff's first trip to cuba ahead of his historic visit to the u.s. we're live in havana with the latest on the pope's travels. steve? >> reporter: chris, a sweltering morning here in havana, but that has b has not struck down the faithful or the curious, some arriving at 3:00 a.m., people hoping to get a look at this first latin american pope and hear this open air mass which is under way now. the theme to his speech is hope. their struggle to survive on 20, $25 a month, and the church here that has seen much of its money confiscated since 50 years ago.
as far as the cuban leader goes, raul castro, he was there at the airport to meet pope francis. he's had warm words of praise in the past for some of the pope's criticisms of the excesses of capitalism. he also took time to thank the pope for playing a key role in reestablishing relations between the u.s. and cuba, the 50-year standoff, he said, the cold war logjam was broken by this pope, and we've seen the two countries establish embassies this summer. it's going to be a busy three days on this island here. he's going to give three open air masses before heading to washington on tuesday. it's likely at some point he's going to meet with the ailing fidel castro, but there are no public meetings scheduled between the pope or anyone who opposes the castro regime. >> steve, thank you for that. for a preview of the pope's next stop here in the u.s., i
sat down earlier with two catholic leaders, cardinal donald whirl, archbishop of washington, and father thomas roseca, adviser to the vatican. your eminence, father roseca, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thank you. it's good to be back. >> some vatican watchers say this pope not only wants to change the church, he wants to raise the world, which raises the question, how much of this, cardinal, is religious and how much is policy? >> i think what he's trying to do is make this a better place, and that essentially is a religious action. bringing people to an understanding of their relationship to god and their relationship to one another. but that's going to have some political and some policy ramifications to which i don't think he will be speaking, but he will call all of us to the pastoral and spiritual reality that we have to make this a better place. >> well, when you say make it a better place, he's been pretty
frank and graphic about that. he has said the excesses of global capitalism is the dawn of the devil. he has said the excesses of our environmental actions, the climate change, is that we're making this planet into a pile of filth. how frank and blunt do you expect him to be, especially when he addresses congress? >> well, when he addresses congress, i wouldn't be surprised if we hear echoes of his cyclical speech about our common home. in that letter he points out a lot of the problems, but he begins by saying, we all have to sit around the table recognizing the problems but now work together to resolve them. >> so in that sense, it will be a political speech in the sense that he's going to be talking about issues that the politicians have to deal with. >> it will be a pastoral speech, it will be an announcement, i believe, of what our obligations
are to one another. the political ramifications are a part of everything anybody says. and if he's speaking to congress, there will be the expectation that there would be policy that follows on this. but i don't expect him to be announcing policy. >> is it true that he's practicing english and that he intends to speak to congress in english? >> my understanding is he's going to read his talk in english. it's completely appropriate that he would be reading in a language that isn't his first tongue, but that's what i'm told, it will be in english. >> republican congressman tom gosar says he plans to boycott the speech, and he explained it this way. when the pope chooses to act and talk like a leftist politics, then he can expect to be treated like one. your response? >> i don't think the holy father is acting any way than other than a pastor of souls. his message is interpreted by people in various ways, but
everything i've heard him say sounds to me like he is a good shepherd calling the flock. in this case he's calling the whole human flock to respond to real problems. >> but in dealing with those real problems, father roseca, one thing about this pope is that he's willing to step on feet on all sides of various issues. he's also going to be meeting with president obama, and i don't have to tell you the catholic church is in something of a struggle with the obama administration about the issue of religious freedom, a mandate when it comes to contraception or insurance coverage of birth control in church-related groups. do you expect him to bring that up with the president? >> no. but what i do think will happen, specifically with president obama and other members of the government. he's coming as a pastor of
seoul. it's not a political manual, it's not a foreign leader which cuts across our categories, and we can't pigeonhole him. he heads the state with great grace and dignity. the whole team at the white house are doing a very good job to welcome the pope as the greatest moral leader in the world right now. and this is an opportunity for the president and his whole team to welcome him and to listen to the message of a peacemaker. the backdrop of this whole visit is not what's happening in american politics or a presidential campaign. the backdrop is a world steeped in violence and bloodshed and
rancor and hatred, and here we have coming to your city, to your die ceaocese, a real princ peace. when peacemakers come, they upset those who are not at peace. so if people are going to be upset on any side of the spectrum here, let them look inside themselves. you know, and as i know, you're in the presence of extraordinary goodness, of kindness, of intelligence and of humanity. so humanity is coming to teach us how to be more human. >> you talk about the decorum particularly of the visit to the president and the white house. the administration has reportedly invited some transgender activists at t, thet openly gay episcopal bishop to come to the white house, but there is no word that they've
invited some leaders of the pro-life movement to the ceremony, and some vatican officials have expressed concern about that. >> i can tell you this formally from the vatican, as i have a certain title to bring news to the vatican, that the vatican never gets involved in the guest list of heads of state, number one. so if vatican officials unnamed have expressed concern, that's their issue and they should come forward and give their name. there are 15,000 or so people invited to the white house, and there are many pro-life people. there are many that weren't told they're invited to the white house, that's the problem. i was there in 2008 when the president received pope benedict. that's quite a big crowd, so who
represent the american people. and i applaud the white house f for this. >> there is a battle going on with planned parenthood, and you have said the feetal issue is, quote, heinous. do you expect that to come up in the pope's visit? >> i believe the pope will focus extensively on issues such as the dignity of every human person, the value and sanctity of life. he'll also speak, i would expect, to be our common home. i see this thread running through his comments, his whether it is in the cyclical
that you have to start with a human person, respect and care for every single human person, see that person in the context of a society that allows that person to develop and flower, and then care for the good earth that allows all of that to take place. >> finally, father roseca, and i think some people are surprised to find out this is the first threat to the united states of his life. some of his argentine friends have been quoted that he has concern of the excesses, ecological of this country. do you have any sense of how he. i've looked at, but one doesn't necessarily have experiental
orders. he has wonderful bishop advisers and a few good cardinals that are working closely with him, and he knows he's got the pulse of the church in america and of the people. he's very well informed and very well read, so i have no doubt whatsoever the talks he will give will reflect a knowledge -- it doesn't have to be experienceal knowledge of having visited the city, and the key is he understands human beings and suffering human. so we have somebody coming who is going to explore up close and he's not coming as a complete stranger. >> cardinal whirl, father roseca, thank you very much. it's going to be an exciting weekend and we look forward to the preview. >> we look forward to it as well. >> thank you. when we come back, startling
rebels to take on isis. incidentally, on friday the pentagon said the number of trained syrian fighters has now jumped from 5 to 9. we're back now with the panel. president obama had a $500 million program to train rebels. after spending 40 million, it turns out we have nine trained syrian rebels in the field and the administration announced this week, well, they're going to change strategy. is that a good idea? >> i think so, because the chickens are coming home to roost on the current strategy, not just with regards to the battle against isis but the overall syrian policy. now we have an excellent example of what happens around the world, in far-flung places sometimes, when the united states is not involved in leading. he was prepared to mount attack to deter the whole chemical weapons program and then he stopped short of that and turned it all over to vladimir putin
whose influence in that region is growing and is bound to be malignant. we're seeing on the shores of europe the consequences of the mess in syria, tragic circumstances, people dying in boats and elsewhere in significant numbers, and of course on top of that we have the utter failure of the isis strategy. >> after general austin's testimony in congress about the four or five fires now up to nine, the white house actually tried to disclaim responsibility for its own program. here is white house spokesman josh ernest. >> many of our critics had proposed this specific option as essentially the cure-all for all of the policy challenges that we're facing in syria right now. that is not something this administration ever believed, but it is something that our critics will have to answer to. >> kirsten, i have to say in roughly 40 years here in washington, i have never heard
that line of argument from the white house podium. we never wanted to do this, you made us do it, so now it's your fault. >> it's a terrible argument. i think they were never on board with this idea and because they were never on board with this idea, they shouldn't have done it. it's not that we went ahead and did something we thought was a bad idea, it's a terrible argument. i don't think it's a good idea. i think the whole policy is incoherent. the idea we're going to get rid of assad and get rid of isis, well, they're enemies, first of all, if assad leaves, there's no clear replacement. isis would be sure to move in. there are no answers. the people saying, arm the rebels, arm the rebels, i'm not surprising that it's turned out the way it's turned out, and they've had difficulty finance ing it.
>> the president spoke up about this program. he said it's the best way. was he lying about it the whole time, what he thought about it? i'm afraid so. >> i think it was a political decision. i don't think he ever bought into it. >> meanwhile this week, mora la -- more alarming news, the u.s. has brought fighters and tanks into syria, and after saying they were going to isolate russia after its invasion of ukraine, the white house administration is reaching -- >> i spoke to vladimir putin for the third time in less than a week. i made clear that russia's continued support for assad risked escalating the conflict. >> carl, a couple questions. whatever happened to our isolation strategy towards putin and russia after the ukraine a
russia. >> we'll follow in the ex pensi pension. and by feckless corresponding of this nation, they're there. if he had moved to remove assad at any one of those points, two things would be a reality today. isis would not be in control of a great swath of iraq and syria, and russia would not be reemerging as an influence in the middle east. now, you mentioned a lot of equipment. the su fighters and the surface to air defense system that the russians have now put in syria, last time i looked, isis does
not have a -- we will determine what happens in syria, not you. you interfere from the air, we have surface-to-air missiles which can take out your equipment. it is astonishing what a place of weakness we have found ourselves in by this administration's mishandling. >> you have kerry reaching out to his counterpart and you have the defense secretary. >> begging for them to talk to us, which says we don't have a strategy, we're hoping they'll give us a strategy. we ought to be stepping back and figuring out what is in our best interest and what are the ways to go about demeaning its goal. >> can you explain what the isis policy sl in syria? >> no, i really can't. there are a whole bunch of evil
people on both sides, people i don't want to the challenge. and now on top of everything else, vladimir putin is going to get an opportunity to launder his image as the guy who received. all the stuff about taking over the crimea, and the others will go around the station. it's because of hids support for as assad was ex portd out of the country. thank you, panel. see you next sunday. see you next sunday. we'll be back do you suffer from constipation or irregularity? trust dulcolax® for dependable relief.
interview with candidate jeb bush. that's it for us today. have a great week and we'll see you next week on "fox news sunday." here's where have a great sunday, guys. on the buzz meter donald trump blames the media for slamming his question to not correct a questioner who called president obama a muslim and not american, and he's back making the case on the sunday shows. is that an important story? this after the media pronounced carly fiorina the undisputed winner of this debate, in part for taking on trump, acts at a -- >> the big name from last night, carly fiorina. >> caroly fiorina was phenomenal. >> yes, i loved carly fiorina. i think she had a hugely powerful moment that everybody loved. >> she was in another league last night. >> she owned this debate from the