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it goes on sale next week. bill o'reilly will be back monday. the spin stops right here. we're looking out for you. >> breaking tonight in a move sending shock waves around the world. one of america's most important allies parts aways from the european union in what looks like a show of frustration over immigration, economic opportunity, and the inability to control their own lives. sound familiar? welcome to the kelly file. i'm megyn kelly. this vote has divided europe, caused a huge hit in stock narcoti markets around the world and raised questions about global security. perhaps more importantly, it's sent a stunning message to political leaders, pollsters and pundits who never thought this would happen, happen. and part of that message is how the immigration issue drove the
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voters who were told by the so-called elites not to worry about immigration. britain is a relatively small country. with a population of just 65 million, they've never been completely comfortable with the eu, but as immigration exploding so did worries about housing, medical care, jobs, and the changing british culture. last year alone some 630,000 imgram imgrai immigrants arrived. if the trend continues, their population will top 70 million over the next decade with half of it coming from other countries. while the folks who argued to stay with the eu said it's better for england's economy, that didn't match up with what some of these folks are experiencing in their daily lives. in moments we'll here from nile gardener who predicted some of this. he served as special advisor to
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margaret thatcher. and another final poll that predict third down exact result. we begin tonight with benjamin hall reporting from london on how all this came to pass. >> reporter: good evening. last night britain voted to take control of their borders, their immigration policy, and some say their country. it was the biggest voter turnout. 70% of people turned out. the result, although close, has changed the face of europe forever. at its core with the decision to leave the eu, a body of 28 european countries with one shared government to which billions of dollars is paid every year. that's unelected government set many of the laws. the prime minister who had pushed to stay in and originally call third down vote was forced to resign after he lost. >> the british people have made a very clear decision to take a different path. and as such, i think the country
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requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction. >> reporter: for years a politician named nigel led a group of conservatives fighting against the power of the european government. today he was celebrating victory along with others. >> it's the victory for ordinary people, decent people. it's a victory against the big merchant banks and the big businesses and against big politics. >> reporter: one of the major issues was immigration. millions of people have been flooding into europe with access to benefits, but the european government took control over the immigrant policy. even the united states president delivered a what was seen as a vailed threat if they left. >> and u.k. is going to be in the back of the queue. >> there was a backlash. people asking what right he had telling people how to vote.
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other than that, there's been a downturn in the economy at the moment. people are saying that short term trouble may be a price worth paying for freedom. >> a lot of people wondering why did the british prime minister have to step down? he suffered a defeat, but why did he have to step down? >> he campaigned strongly for this. he believed britain was better in. now that they voted to leave, there are negotiations, and he felt he was not in a position having campaigned so strongly on behalf of europe, that he could not longer lead the country forward in the direction it had chosen to vote which was a different direction. this morning he made that decision and resigned. >> he's gone as of october. benjamin, thank you. some of the folks who wanted to remain with the krun european union were harsh. they called them racist, stupid, and some other words we can't
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use on television. nile gardener is the director of the heritage foundation's margaret thatcher center for freedom. he was a supporter of the effort to leave the eu. nile, good to see you. we've seen this today. if you were in favor of leaving the eu, you're stupid, and charles cook had an interesting piece talking about how his friends said are you sure you're in favor of leaving? all the smart people are in favor of staying. we're seeing that same thing here in our country. why did you think it was a good idea, and what do you think margaret thatcher could have wanted? >> i think brexit is a great development for britain and the u.k. and europe and the united states. this is all about freedom and self-determination. british people retaking control of their own country, and after over 40 years as members of the european union, it was time for
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britain to declare its own independence. the eu has become a separate national entity that suffocates sovereignty and freedom, and the british people voted in huge numbers yesterday to basically declare their independence from the eu. that's a fantastic development. and this is all about retaking control for britain and advancing democracy and economic liberty and freedom, and it's also about, i think, the return of great britain on the world stage as a true world power. >> what about -- let's talk about the money. >> there's a tremendous amount of benefit for the united kingdom. >> the u.k. is one of ten member states who pay more into the eu budget than they get out. only france and germany contribute more, and so the eu is paying money into the great britain is paying this money into the eu budget, and poland and hungary and greece are
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getting a lot of benefits. why did the british folks who supported staying think that was okay? >> well, i think it's sort of beggar's belief that people would think that it's good for britain to hand over 20 billion pounds a year and get 10 million pounds back. the european union is a large sort of socialist style redistribution system. it's an economic basket case in deep decline. britain has been subsidizing the european union for decades. enough is enough. margaret thatcher said the european project is perhaps the greatest folly of the modern era. the british people have thrown a lifeboat off the titanic and jumped on board it, and the titanic is heading toward a massive iceberg. that's where the eu is headed. it's an institution in deep decline. it's run we faceless unaccountable bureaucrats, and
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there's a deep disallusionment across europe. brexit will spark a series of referendums across europe, and you're going to see people all over the european continent expressing their disdain for the european union. >> what about -- we're already hearing there may be some disdain for england. already rumblings that other countries may want out. what kind of effect does that have if it happens? they wanted to stay in the eu. >> certainly. i think the scotts aren't the most pro eu among all the prettyish people, and certainly there's a renewed call for referendum on scottish independence. i think the scotts should bear this in mind. if they do decide to leave the united kingdom, they would have to, anyway, apply to join the european union. they'd also have to apply to join the nato alliance, and spain has already said they
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would definitely veto any scottish application because of their separatist internal problems. the scotts would be completely on their own. but the vast majority of british people, i think, really want to see change. and this referendum of the european union was all about change and reasserting sovereignty and self-determination. these are universal principles that the american people are cherished so deeply, and i think that brexit is wonderful news for britain. it's wonderful news for america as well. it's going to advance prosperity on both sides of the atlantic based on the economic liberty and political freedom. >> great to see you. thank you. >> great to see you. megan. >> the success of the leave eu movement is being traced to one of the leading voices. nigel farosh is a wealthy
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businessman turned leader of the u.k.'s independence party. now parallels are being drawn between he and donald trump, and the issues the two men put in front of the voters. watch when we compared remarks from both men this week. >> our country lost its way when it stopped putting the american people really first. >> dare to dream that the dawn is breaking on an independent, united kingdom. >> this will be a victory for real people. a victory for ordinary people. >> we got here because we switched from a policy of americanism, focusing on what's good for america's middle class, to a policy of globalism. >> we fought against the nationals and the big merchant banks. >> our foreign policy has been corrupted. >> we fought against big
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politics and lies and corruption and defeat. let june 23rd go down in our history as our independence day. [ cheers and applause ] >> joining me now, someone who knows how messaging influencing voters. a pollster, frank lunts. you were polling this thing. you had it right. you had the levers two points ahead of the remainers. that's how it turned out. what was it? why did all the other pollsters underestimate the strength of the leave movement? >> one, they couldn't predict turnout. the facts that the highest percentage of brits that have ever voted in an election, even more than voted for prime minister last year, is significa significant. and the higher the turnout, the better the leave campaign did, and then they were unable to project the 10% or 12% moving at
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the end. over 90% of the british population decided more than two weeks in advance how they were going to vote. the last 10 % in the end voted with leave, and the reason why is because the remain campaign did not personalize, individualize, or humanize the election. they talked about britain overall rather than talking about the average, hard working taxpayer. the leave campaign was more effective at personalizing it, and more emotional in its appeal. >> "the wall street journal" had a write up talking about certain individual whog decided to leave. a lot of them were working class democrats who made it happen. they were talking about socialized medicine. they'd go to the hospitals, and one guy's wife had to wait ten weeks to get a shot to relieve pain in their backs. these people are not welcoming an influx of 650,000 immigrants. that's just more people on the
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roster. more people they have to fight for housing with. forget jobs. they're doing okay on unemployment, but it's more than jobs there. >> yes, and it's also about a government that's lost control. a european government that does not understand that it's bureaucracy is destroying the hopes and dreams of the people they're supposed to serve. the number one complaint other than immigration was this faceless, nameless, european lu bureaucracy that made life more difficult for the british people. what i'm listening to over there is exactly what i'm hearing here in america. it is so much of the trump campaign, that the public has had enough. i would say -- if i were advising the clinton campaign, you'd better not represent the status quo. people across europe and america have had it. they're fed up with politics as usual, fed up with being ignored by the politicians and fed up with not having a voice and
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running their own lives. >> the messaging is very, very similar on both sides, although, i will see the leaveers in great britain, they don't have anything like donald trump's free trade policy. they want more -- >> they don't have shirts like this either. i'll -- >> what does that say on the bottom? vote leave? >> vote leave. and i'm not even allowed to show you this. i'm not sure i should tell you this, but they were even giving away condoms that communicated the vote leave campaign. i won't tell you what they said, but we'll put it on your website so people can take a look after this is over. >> i'll have to consult my friend, mr. google. pull out? james says he has the dirty reference because he has the dirty mind. thank you for that. >> thank you. >> i thought it was a fuzzy dice. tonight is different.
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what do the clinton and trump camps think of this? we'll have that next? what does this mean for the terror threat in europe and around the world? we'll put that question to others. >> this is worth asking the question, who would be happy if we left? putin might be happy, i suspect ♪
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new political fallout at home after the brits vote to leave the european union. our reporter in london talked at the top of the hour about the backlash after president obama weighed in with this just two months ago. >> our focus is in negotiating with a big block of the european union to get a trade agreement done. and u.k. is going to be in the back of the queue. given the heavy lift on any trade agreement, us having access to a big market with a lot of countries rather than trying to do piecemeal trade agreements is hugely inefficient. >> they were not persuaded.
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today hillary clinton suclintohg the u.k. vote is bad for the u.s. her statement reading this time of uncertainty only underscores the need for calm, steady, experienced leadership in the white house. for his part, donald trump traveling in scotland today, called the voter rejection of policies of both mrs. clinton and president obama. >> she's constantly dictating to the world what to do. the world doesn't listen to them. you can see that by the vote, but he's constantly tick kadicio other countries. and i think his recommendation, perhaps, caused it to fail. >> what do you think this says about how hillary clinton maybe misread the world? >> she's misread everything. she misred this. i was surprised she was so bold -- >> joining us now, an attorney and donald trump supporter, and a national indicated radio talk show host. good to see you both.
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richard, many people today came out and said this bodes very well for donald trump. it doesn't bode well for hillary clinton. that trump and his supporters are more aligned with the sentiment behind the leave movement which prevailed. does it cause you any concern as a hillary supporter? >> for sure. i think this is a ripple effect. d i think the lord speaks to us in signs. it's time for democrats to stop thinking that donald trump is not this crazy -- he is a crazy outsider, and his policies are horrib horrible. but he has an opportunity here to win this thing if we don't get out there and get active. if you're seeing from the party is not that. they rejected a living wage amendment which is the opposite of what we should be doing. we should be talking to poor, middle class whites. poor middle class african americans, poor middle class hispanics and saying get in the process. donald trump's policies are horrible for you, and this election matters.
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i think that's what we have to do immediately. and this should be a warning sign that rome is burning and it's time for democrats to get up and active, or donald trump will be the president. scary. >> so that's a message we're hearing. it's not just richard who says donald trump is crazy. i think he calls hillary crazy -- i don't remember his nickname. krumt or whatever. she came out tonight with a statement that said pay attention, suggesting donald trump can win, and you're hearing this more and more from the left cetoday saying they ne to take this as a warning to get behind her, and to open up their pocketbooks to help her. >> the brexit vote was a wholesale rejection of the clinton, cameron, obama globalist agenda. people are mad as hell, and they're not going to take it anymore. how many people need to flood into the country and how many terrorist attacks like san bernardino, paris, orlando, need
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to take place before people say enough? this mirror's mr. trump's policy on immigration? he wants a system of vetting and screening that is comprehensive, accurate, and will stop people from hot beds of islamic terrorism who are predisposed to this type of behavior from coming to america. the britons have it right. >> the difference between u.k. and here, you tell me, richard. over there the polling was tight. they thought england would stay in the eu. here hillary clinton has been beating donald trump steadily in virtually all of the polls. so if the pollsters have it wrong now, they're way wrong. i mean, they're all wrong. granted, there are still four months until the election, but does make you feel better after you get over your concern? >> i mean, a little better. here's the thing. it's too early to look at nationwide polls. look at state by state. look at a state like ohio where
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donald trump even in his baddest week is tied with hillary clinton. the reason why, pollsters aren't talking to the right people, and you have to make sure the campaign is mobilizing the right people. you have to mobilize young people to vote. the misstake in london. you have to make sure that -- >> young people are still holding onto bernie. >> exactly. they're holding onto bernie because of their ideals. >> bernie is saying he's going to vote for hillary, and the young people are like no. >> he is. >> his followers aren't going to go along with that. they don't buy into hillary's platform. >> wait. let me -- >> let david finish. >> the followers of bernie are radical. they're sort of leftists. they're not going to jump on board. i'm telling you what. when it coming to some of the issues such as national security, i think they care about that. i do, and the economics of keeping jobs. they care about jobs.
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in the last poll i saw there's 20% to 30% that will potentially jump to mr. trump. i think even richard will by the end because hillary will have so many problems with her federal investigation. the guy who put her server into her home took the fifth hundreds of times. >> david -- you're the best i've seen. you're the best i've seen. >> if richard goes to support trump, he'll be in, i think the 4 % of african americans who are in favor of trump, it's like 94 % gerchs him. >> don't worry. it's not going to happen. not going to happen. >> great to see you both. >> good to see you. >> within hours of the vote, the islamic state terror group was celebrating and calling for new attacks in europe. former extremists are here on what this means for europe and the united states and security.
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and the drama may not end with britain. remember the women assaulted in germany? the terror worries in brussels? up next, why more count
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zblanchts closer look at the vote to leave the european
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union. and this might not be the only fav farewell faced by the continue innocent. remember the worries about terror in the hot bed of bru brussels? could even more countries abandon the eu, and what would that mean? >> britain's exit is igniting a fire. populous and right leaning forces in france, for example, have been gaining strength and are calling for their own exit. >> translator: the french as well must have the opportunity to choose the way to freedom that will give back to france its full and entire sovereignty. >> reporter: polls show a majority of the dutch want to put the eu exit to a vote. >> i'm jealous and trying to achieve the same next year. >> reporter: it spawned a tidal wave of brexit votes. as in the u.s., europe is
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rebelling what people see as government by the elites. rather than simplify the structure, the eu government in brussels added layers of bureaucracy and regulation. >> there's a sense of malaise that it's not working. part of the reason why it's not working is because europe is overregulated. power has been increasingly centralized in brussels. >> reporter: the unease mirrors u.s. worries over uncontrolled immigration, the result in thre failure by some cultures to assimilate into the broader cultures. >> people want borders. they don't want people pouring in that they don't know where they're from. >> reporter: there's a frustration over economic decline and influence, and that others have had to bail out the weaker ones like greece. the votes that put the brexit over the talk, came from the
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equivalent of the u.s. midwest rust belt. >> if that happens, more and more countries will look at the british example and say, we can do that too. >> reporter: critics warn britain is risking his economy without the auspices of the eu. but britain has a very long history of thriving in international trade, having been the leader for parts of the 18th, 19 9, and 20th century. back to you. >> with me now, rich. and alan colmes. good to see you both. rich, tell me how big a role, what we've seen in europe with the immigration, and particularly from syria and elsewhe elsewhere, and angela merkel letting a million refugees come in, how much did that play? >> i think it was a big role.
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angela merkel issued an invitation of anyone who can get to europe to come in. and because the eu eliminated borders throughout much of europe, once you set foot in one european country, you can walk into any other, and we've learned from the experience of france that european countries are not particularly good at assimilating large numbers of muslim immigrants, and the experience of france and belgium is that ethnic enclaves can be dangerous. >> alan, the reports are that not only were some rich migra s migrants, this is from the atlantic today, outbuying british for the -- poor migrants went into dwellings. so the neighborhoods were actually changing to the consternation of those who were british born. >> that's the problem. you're hitting on why this happened.
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i think it was scare tactics, fear. the immigrants are coming. >> but the scare tactics and fear or facts in a nieeighborho that's irritating? >> we found out in thenitis people do asemilate. when donald trump says muslims don't assimilate. that's a lie. >> have you been to paris recently? >> people assimilate over time. it doesn't happen right way. that's the way of the world. we don't live in a narrow society. we live in a global society. >> assimilation is not inevitable. in the larger numbers you have, the harder it is to assimilate, and alan, we've seen in the attacks in paris and belgium, often it's second generation immigrants, which i assume you bloouf have assimilated. but they didn't. and there's a matter of principle. britain should get to decide if they want less, more, a different mix of immigrants. that's for britain to decide,
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not to have it imposed by a european superstate. what the leave forces were talking about is adapting an australian style so-called points system where you get to choose the kind of immigrants that you think would help you and have the right stills for your economy. there is nothing wrong with that. that's rational. >> what they're saying today is if hillary clinton pursues a message that sounds anything like angela merkel, she's going to lose. >> this has nothing to do with the united states election. one was a vote on an issue. this is a vote on candidates. donald trump, for him to win, based on brexit, would have to expand the people he's appealing to, and the appeal of brexit like the appeal of trump is to older less educated white lower income people, and he's not expanding to blacks or women or hispanics -- >> i don't know about the lower educated, but what about that, rich? >> that's what the pew study said. >> it's true that england is 80% white. the united states is not.
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>> the demographics are different. there's no doubt about it. the left plays a double game. when working class folks vote the way they won't, they're hard working, salt of the earth. when they vote the wrong way, the way they did in britain, because a lot of the folks who voted for brexit are labor supporters of the working class, then they're backwards people. i think that's disgusting. >> that's not my point of view. >> patriotic impulses who want to have national decisions affecting britain decided by the british parliament. >> they're voting against their best interest. look at the economy. look at how the pound sank. >> it's one day. >> people's savings, they're 400 ks. they're hurting themselves. >> i'll get to that later. put it in a 401 and hope and pray. great to see you both.
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swrooel more momentarily. >> we're also seeing new worries about isis celebrating this and using it as call for more attacks. former extremists are here next on that.
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from mercedes-benz. what it means to be self-driven. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. there's growing terror concerns among some with england leaving the eu. today isis was reportedly expressing joy, isis expressing joy, and calling on it followers who carry out attacks to, quote, paralyze europe. that has a lot of folks wondering how this move is going to effect global security. a former extremist is with us. >> reporter: isis is calling on the followers to strike at the heart of europe. the law enforcement agency says brex brexit has the potential to keep them from fighting -- they would
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no longer have access to the eu oois vast intelligent database. europe claims to be working on 50 counterterrorism cases. remember, the eu is vulnerable because one of its bedrock principles is to be able to cross borders without check points allowing some 400 million people to roam free. last august there were many calls for the eu to tighten borders in the wake of an attempted terror attack on a paris bound train that was halted by three american tourists. the attackers were able to freely cross two borders. then in november the ring leader of the paris attacks went from belgium to paris and then returned to his apartment in brussels where he holed up for more than four months before being arrested. investigators believe the same terrorist sell that attacked paris was behind the talk in brussels in march that killed 31.
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the european privacy laws often limit authorities in different countries from sharing information. in other words, while citizens can travel freely from country to country, their information often cannot. >> thank you. joining me now with reaction, a former islamic extremist, and author of "radical, my journey out of islamic terrorism". do you think this makes us less secure, meaning america and the u.k. less or more secure? >> well, i think there's a potential. i heard that word in the report. there is a potential that our cooperation with our european partners will suffer, and that has effects. iltd like to emphasize my organization, we just published prior to the vote, a report looking at this very question. and we interviewed people from security experts from across the spectrum of opinion on this. what we found is primarily our
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counterterrorism efforts in the united kingdom rely on three issues. the first is what's known as the five is country for cooperation. those english language speaking countries. that's where the bulk of the sharing comes from. the second is the bilateral cooperation with france. with the border that's necessary, and the third, frankly, is the expertise of our security services. they are some of the best in the world. though it may have an impact, i don't think it's going to be a lasting impact on our ability to fend off terror attacks. in fact, i think the cooperation by necessity is going to continue with continents in europe. >> you're among the best in the world at this. but what about culturally? what effect does this have, the more isolationist principles and the pushback against immigrants,
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and within borders? >> look, i voted for us to remain in the european union. my primary reason was i think it won't have an effect long term on the economy or counterterrorism as i just attempted to give my view on. but i think culturally there's a danger that all of us across europe begin to retreat in our identities of old. whether it's england, scotland, ireland, and we're heard about france and sweden and other potential exits across europe. the danger is an effect on the united kingdom, majority saying they'll call for a referendum for scotland to rejoin the eu. now in northern ireland, they're saying they'll call to unite the public of ireland and break away to join the eu. the worry i have is when we
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begin to retreat into old nationalist identities, the far right gains and the far left gains from that as well. and, of course, those who peddle the muslim identity, but not just isis. they will also gain from that as we all begin identifying primarily whether by religion or race. that can't be good for europe or against threats in these current times. >> it's such an interesting experiment, if you will, and the world is about to find out how it's going to work out. thank you. . >> a look. >> also, chairman of the institute for the study of war. great to see you. what do you make of the isis threat that they're going to unleash more attacks? is that brluser? >> they exploit any situation on the horizon.
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they have the capacity to direct attacks in europe, and they've expanded into ten affiliates and they have cash. they're a threat and danger. they'll attack advantage of anything that comes along. the threat is truly real. most of it is propaganda. >> who benefits in terms of national security? who benefits from that move? >> well, first of all, i agree with the brits taking control of their own destiny, but believe me, the kremlin is celebrating tonight. the vodka is flowing. why is that? this is -- ifs the -- >> because it's a day that ends in "y". >> it looks like this could be the beginning of the end of the european union, and back in ee 91, we saw a similar collapse of the soviet union. many russians, and particularly the current leader believes it's the most tragic event of the 20th century. then the warsaw pact fell apart.
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what putin has his eye on and always has, is the military alliance in europe, nato. he wants to choallenge it. he wants to force its collapse, and because he wants to dominate and control the strategic countries in eastern europe to protect mother russia. this has always been his game. he's seeking that kind of influence. he wants to be a world power, and he's serious about it. >> nato stands in his way. does this effect nato? >> it doesn't effect nato directly in terms of weakening the security. the brits, they're the second most powerful country in nato. i don't believe this will in the near term effect the budgets that will support the british military. it possibly could. but the real issue in nato is we decapitated it in terms of military capabilities after the
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collapse of the soviet union, but the social democracies that exited for 40 plus years are an incredible burden as governments in these countries and their leaders are feckless in terms of their unability to ask their people to sacrifice, not only to protect themselves but to protect the outer security of europe and have step up the global responsibilities. that is the weakness of nato. it's the political will that's lacking in nato. putin understands that. for the last seven years, there's been a lack of political will in the united states, in nato, and putin has taken advantage of all of it. >> fascinating. thank you, sir. >> good seeing you. >> global markets lost trillions, trillions in value today. trillions with a t. up next, we'll take a look at
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breaking tonight, the dow jones industrial average took a nose dive at the opening bell. finishing down more than 600 points on the day, but the brexit vote could have bigger repercussions on your bottom line. joining me, steven moore, fox news contributor and former "wall street journal" columnist. good to see you. down 600 is not good.
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what does it mean for the average american? >> you know, megyn, i've been doing this a long time following financial markets in the economy. i don't remember a 24 hours like we've seen in the last day. and you're right, you know, this was a big, big selloff, so this wasn't expected that brexit was going to pass. once it did, investors sold, sold, sold. a lot of people are very nervous about their retirement accounts and i.r.a. accounts and i could simply say this, now is not a good time to sell. you never want to sell into a down market. you want to sell when the market is high. i think the longer tell term implications of what happened in terms of how this is going to affect the economy, megyn, i'd say this. the economy in the u.s. is already pretty fragile. we've got pretty bad jobs numbers in the last month. the gdp number for economic growth was really lousy that we had for the first quarter, so this couldn't come at a worse time. >> you know, i was looking how much better the dollar was doing against the bound and was
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thinking, hey, that's good, then all the reports said, no, that sucks, too. explain why that's bad. >> this happens -- any time there's a crisis rnd taround th world, a huge weather event or some kind of military event, people always flock to the dollar, megyn. we're still the one source of safety around the world, so it's not surprising, to me, at all that people are buying dollars. by the way, the other thing people bought was gold so the gold price went way up yesterday. that's where, you know, that's also a refuge for people. but i am worried about the economy. i think that we just haven't had the kind of growth we wanted now for the last couple of years, and this just puts more stress on the economy right now, but, again, i would tell people, you know, maybe take a deep breath, don't panic here and don't feel like, you know, your nest egg is in danger. i don't think it is. >> hold on. don't sell, buy. don't sell, buy. and it is good time for a hotel
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so which of these do you like the best? de-portugal, or finn-ish? thanks for watching, everyone. see you monday. welcome to "hannity." and tonight, britain breaks free of the european union, sending shockwaves all across the world. now, in a historic 52% to 48% vote, the people of the united kingdom chose to take back their national sovereignty in a strong rebuke against the global ruling elite. earlier today while visiting his golf course in scotland, donald trump praised the decision. let's take a look. >> people want to take their country back. they want to have independence, in a sense. and you see it with europe, all over europe. you're going to have more than just, in m