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all our patients is being tested in the meantime. ♪ >> eboni: i am eboni k. williams with eric bolling and lisa boothe, and we are "the fox news specialists" ." the huge, huge news day today. a short time ago, but the congressional budget office released its score on the senate health care bill. roughly 22 million people could lose insurance coverage over the next decade. we will have more coming up. and we will take you live to the rose garden where president trump will soon be with indian prime minister modi where there's been talk of boosting military cooperation between the u.s. and india. the supreme court decided to
partially reinstate president trump's travel ban policy. it will consider the presidents broad immigration powers this fall. they will impose the band with the exception that it "may not be enforced against foreign nationals." president trump tweeting that he was grateful for the decision. sean spicer on the president's behalf, said this. >> with respect to the supreme court decision on the executive order, the president was honored by the 9-0 decision to use an important tool to protect the homeland. his number one responsibility is to keep the people safe and that's what this executive order does. >> eboni: summer calling this a potential victory for president trump, rumors are swirling around justice anthony kennedy's possible retirement from the supreme court. if justice kennedy were to retire, that means president trump would nominate his second supreme court justice
in six months. i have long held that as much legislation as the president can put out, what will define his legacy is the supreme court picks. >> eric: this could be the second one now. if kennedy decides to stay another year, it will be the second pick in the year. he will have to go, possibly three if ruth bader ginsburg decides to step down at some point in the next eight years. this decision is a win for donald trump. the high court vacated or at least is going to put aside two lower courts estimations that it was unconstitutional. it's a big win for trump, a wake-up call to be liberals that the supreme court has moved to center-right, which we knew was going to happen with a trump presidency. it will continue to move right, reminding the world the presidency is number one charged with keeping america safe. the travel ban will do that and
it seems it's constitutional. >> eboni: i don't know if i agree, eric. lisa boothe, your take on it. >> lisa: could move further to the right. that was the smartest thing president trump did in the election was released a list of potential supreme court nominees he would choose because this is what galvanized the republican base for him. if you look at the exit polling, one fifth of the voters had the supreme court was the number one issue. 57-40%, it's a huge issue during the campaign. in regard to the travel pause, it's a big win for the presiden president. >> eboni: i like that. travel pause. >> lisa: president trump has couched this as a national security issue and it seems that serene court agrees with him, in part the statement they said that tips in favor of the government compelling to provide for the nation's national security. seems like they agree with
president trump. >> eboni: let's meet today's specialists. he's the father of five daughters. he must be busy. secretary of state of canvas and the vice chair of the presidential commission on election integrity. appointed by president trump. he specializes in full hunting. kris kobach is here. he's the former director of the afghanistan legal education project. and a political pundit and specializes in everything foreign policy. ari aramesh is here. thank you for being here. i want to start with you, kris. eric says this is the court moving to the right. this is a 9-0 decision. we don't see those all that often. i'm going to give you my bird's-eye view. i don't know if it's a conservative or a right-leaning move by the court as much as it's a legal no-brainer that the president enjoys broad authority on these issues of immigration. >> kris: i used to teach constitutional law.
i think the argument against the ban was weak. the statutory argument on the ban is a weak one too. i am not surprised it is 9-0. and i would point out something some people haven't caught onto. the supreme court won't hear the case until october and they won't decide until november at the earliest. the 90 days, full 120 days is going to go. it might be almost moot. the exception the court carved out was almost already in the executive order in the first place. in 2.0 and 1.0. people with family in the country. it's a big victory for the president is another big point, for the country as well. one thing i've written about is our refugee program has become a conduit for terrorists. since the original world trade
center attacks in '93. >> eboni: ari mother have been examples of that for their refugees just taking safe haven. what's your take? >> ari: there is a statutory argument for the court has done but there is a clause in the immigration and naturalization act that the court is going to decide. you cannot discriminate or use preferential treatment based on national origin in place of birth. that's a statutory argument. >> eboni: that's one of the reasons that christian minorities was taken out for 2.0. >> ari: places a burden, targeting their place of birth and national origin. there are constitutional elements to due process, equal protection and the establishment clause. the bigger scheme of things is this. let's go back 65 years ago. can you imagine not admitting
albert einstein? not admitting people who were deemed to be troublemakers, outside educators to this country? >> eric: it's a temporary travel ban while we figure out our our vetting system is so we can reopen the immigration status refuges and people want to come on visas who are trying to make it a safer place. we are not saying no, albert einstein and the likes can't come here. he is trying to santa were positive we can close low pools in the vetting system -- close loopholes in the vetting system, we are going to posix. >> ari: trying to appeal to hard-line elements in the pottery. the travel ban is not going to solve the issues. it >> eric: it's not a ban. >> ari: if someone is in crisis supervisor, someone can live through the interviews. >> lisa: there are a lot of americans are concerned with the fact that you have attorney general session saying there are
300 refugees and active fbi investigations for terrorist related activities or concerns. these countries are either safe harbors of terrorism or state sponsors of terrorism. there are americans who were generally concerned. >> eboni: i am one of those people outside the base. [laughter] and i have a real concern about national security. some of the argument is this travel ban doesn't necessarily make us safer. that's what i believe the fourth circuit determined. but if the president can make the argument this is truly a national security issue, then i don't think -- i agree with you, there's not much challenge that's going to circumvented. when i see from the court, the burden has shifted. this will not be about the president proving its national security interests. it will be about opposition. they are going to have to prove
it's discriminatory in its intent. >> eric: he doesn't have to prove he's going to be right. >> eboni: that's what i said. >> eric: it is constitutional. >> eboni: the burden has shifted. the opposition will have to prove it has discriminatory intent. >> kris: in legal terms, the burden hasn't shifted but in practical terms. they know the supreme court is skeptical. on the statutory argument, the president has clear authority. the fourth circuit said you have to show it's good for the country to us on the judiciary. doesn't say that president has to make a showing to anybody. it's in his view as chief executive, is it safe for the country? >> eric: don't lose sight of the fact that it was a 9-0 victory for trump. >> ari: it's not a 9-0 zero judgment that's going to be
binding. three of the most conservative justices, they dissented. they wanted to say it's over. give the president carte blanche. these opinions are about a paragraph or two, this was a 16 page decision or nonbinding decision. that means it's a complex issue. >> eric: at least three liberal judges did not vote against. >> eboni: to my point, i don't think -- >> eric: in place for now. >> eboni: i don't think it's them being further to the right. it's not that political of an issue. >> eric: how do you explain the ninth circuit and fourth circuit? >> eboni: for them it was but the high court is being a little better than that. >> kris: i would add it's not a political thing the administration did issuing this ban in january. if you look at syria, the
previous administration have been granting 93% of syrian refugee applications at the same time that so-called fake refugees detonating bombs in europe and driving vehicles and people in europe. clearly 93% was too high. we have to figure out a way of separating out their true refugees from those who are claiming refugee status. >> lisa: it has been a political issue. it's a cornerstone of the resistance movement because it's emblematic to them of racism, xenophobia, whatever else the president has been accused of. this has become a political battle ground and i think that adds to the heaviness of this and whatever the supreme court decision ends up being. >> eric: we have a refugee program problem. once we vet them, 18 224 months, we let them come in and we don't follow them once they are
simulated into whatever society, community. they are free to go. a period of time where we keep an eye on it, maybe a year. depends on the case. and then we let them go. that scares me. 120 days moratorium is not a bad idea to make sure we want to do that. >> ari: i am all for vetting. my parents and i moved to this country. we waited for a green card. we came here, and look at where i am now. >> eboni: on fox news. that's good. [laughs] >> ari: exactly, look at the facts. when immigrants or refugees leave syria to go to europe, all they have to do is cross a nonexistent european union border and they get to the european union. we don't have that problem here. we have two oceans protecting us. >> eric: there is four size.
there is a north and south they can walk right across. >> ari: 18 to 24 months pair they have to go through dod interview, department of homeland security interview. >> eric: coming through the southern border? >> kris: there is a refugee program. a lot of people claim asylum, they come across the mexican border and they are smuggled in. once they are here, they claim asylum and it's very similar standard, similar program. you get the same benefits of the refugee and they can just disappear and to the fabric of the country. we have to make sure we stop people at the front end where there is any question all that this person isn't really a refugee. they are using the refugee program as a cloak. >> eboni: we have a vetting problem, i agree. i look forward to remedying that. coming up, congressional budget
office releases numbers on the g.o.p. health care bill. later, looks like there will be a troop increase in afghanistan for and what does it mean for isis? nothing good, that's for sure. there is a shot of the rose garden where president trump is expected to make a statement soon. we will keep an eye on it. we will be right back.
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>> eric: you are looking at a live shot of the rose garden at the white house. president trump is expected any minute. he's going to make a few remarks. we promise to go right to the rose garden estimate as he approaches the microphone. in the meantime, a short time ago, congressional budget office released its score on the senate health care bill. the cbo estimated roughly 22 million more people could be without health insurance in the next decade. that is 1 million fewer uninsured than the house bill estimated. lawmakers were awaiting the score before making a decision with the bill could still face an uphill battle with the july . senators are taking a strong
stance. >> the plan acknowledges we are going to have a death spiral which is sicker and sicker people in the individual market and healthy people don't buy insurance. they put over $100 billion in bailout money to try to say we're going to tamp down prices. we are going to acknowledge the problem will continue and were going to pile taxpayer money in it. that's not a conservative notion. >> eric: there are others more confident the bill will garner enough support to pass before the congressional recess. >> what we are trying to do is thread a needle and make it so that as the president says, every single american needs to be able to have access to the kind of coverage they want, ensuring pre-existing illnesses are covered, ensuring there are no lifetime caps, that individuals have the kind of choices that are necessary to that the system is responsive to people, to patients, not responsive to government. >> eric: also in the cbo
scoring, besides the 20 million uninsured, there was a massive drop in the debt, the budget will see $321 billion in reduced debt over the course of ten years. premiums will initially go up but then severely go down in 2026. planned parenthood is defunded for a year and there is a lot of tax relief. there are some for both. >> eboni: i was hoping frankly after seven years from the republicans campaigning on this and making promises to the american people, and you know how i feel about obamacare. i don't like it. i was optimistic and hopeful that something would bring premiums down. i'm not overly excited about the increase, and then to come back down. i will believe it when i see it. 33 lisa, your thoughts. >> lisa: i think it's going to be tough for republicans. they are ultimately going to get something done in the senate but
you can only lose two. it's more difficult to get it passed in the senate then the house. senators hold a lot of power. we have seen at least five different holdouts that are going to try to extract something from the conversations. there was a reason why mitch mcconnell released it as a discussion draft because he knew there was going to have to be some give and take done. i think republicans are looking at what happened from democrats. i was at the nrc seen during the 2010 election cycle. obamacare, they were showing it cost democrats at the polls. same thing in 2014, 2016. seems to be a big political issue for democrats. weighing the elements of it. >> eric: they have two to lose. do they lose two? >> ari: it's not going to go through. there's five people. this is the conservative wing of the party. a whole host of moderates are
going to have a problem with it. you haven't heard from the lady from maine. we have to hear from olympia snowe. moderates are going to have a problem. conservatives have a problem with it. 22 million are not going to have insurance. it's going to be bad for people with pre-existing conditions. it's going to be bad for people who are older and sick. the president made a clear promise during the campaign. he said if you have -- everybody is going to get covered. everybody's going to get great coverage and pre-existing conditions are going to be covered. what it shows us is that after seven years of republican promises, the republican party is not very good at governing, and that's a problem. >> eric: kris, one thing to consider, the alternative is keeping obamacare. a lot of republicans say we don't want our constituents to keep it. the cbo projected 24 million
would be covered under obamacare. only 11 million were covered. >> kris: i see that cbo score is a shot in the arm for the bill. senate republicans are thinking i have seen the house bill. not sure i like it for then they see the senate bill and they learned that it results and 1 million fewer uninsured and saved $200 billion more than the house built us. they can say to their constituents the senate bill is better. the other thing you have to remember is these five republicans who've gone out on the limb and said we are no votes until you do something for us. it's a political ploy. most of them are willing to vote yes. two of them fold and say they've got the amendments they want, then the pressure is immense on the other three. they don't want to be the one republican who stops the repeal and replace of obamacare. >> eboni: eric, you talked about the political costs.
its enormous on either side of it. costs the democrats hugely when they push this down people's throats and they weren't satisfied. i don't know that the political costs are going to make sense for every republican. we can talk about the $200 million savings. i don't know that those numbers matter to everyday americans who are looking at skyrocketing costs. >> ari: they might be thinking my constituents don't want me to repeal her place obamacare but that's only one or two people, senators. >> eboni: i think they want something better. >> eric: i'm going to agree with you. here's what i don't get to. i'm still trying to figure out how they come up with $300 billion deficit savings from this without fixing the underlying problem. and they have premiums going down, and the only way they have been going down is by throwing
taxpayer money at it. there is money coming from somewhere. can't find out where it is. >> lisa: my understanding is that money is try to stabilize the marketplace in the short-term and in the long term to allow states to be able to do more things. the state innovation waiver currently under section 1332 of obamacare. it's difficult for states to get them approved. the senate bill makes things like that easier. democrats and republicans have said it needs to change. it's not just republicans. >> eric: want to get to a breaking case the president gets to the podium. we will be right back. ex-attorney general loretta lynch under fire by even democrats all over whether or not lynch tried to keep the lid on the hillary clinton email probe. the answer is probably yes. the president is set to make a statement from the rose garden. we will bring you that live when we have it.
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>> lisa: we are looking at the rose garden where president trump is going to be standing side-by-side with the president of -- india's prime minister modi. we saw vice president pence there as well as ivanka trump. there going to be talking about how the united states and india can work more closely together militarily. another time for president trump to be standing side-by-side with a world leader talking about the issue of the day, something that's very important i'm talking about the two countries working together militarily. >> eric: important country, important relationships. look over the last few meetings he's had with leaders have turned out fantastic.
president xi, theresa may, german chancellor merkel. these leaders, no matter what they've said, when they are together, he overwhelms them. they like the meeting. they are enjoying themselves. this is very, very good for america. >> eboni: i agree. one of the places that president shines brightest is on the world stage scenarios where it's not just the internal conflict and things we've seen from this election. there is the president now. >> lisa: we are going to go live to the white house where president trump is joined by the indian prime minister modi. >> thank you very much. prime minister modi, thank you for being here with us today. it's a great honor to welcome
the leader of the world's largest democracy to the white house. i have always had a deep admiration for your country and for its people and a profound appreciation for your rich culture, heritage, and traditions. this summer, india will celebrate the 70th anniversary of its independence, and on behalf of the united states, i want to congratulate the indian people on this magnificent milestone in the life of your very, very incredible nation. during my campaign, i pledged that if elected, india would have a true friend in the white house. and that is now exactly what you have. a true friend. the friendship between the united states and india is built on shared values, including our shared commitment to democracy.
not many people know it, but both american and the indian constitutions begin with the same three very beautiful words. "we the people." the prime minister and i understand the crucial importance of those words, which helps to form the foundation of cooperation between our two countries. relations between countries are strongest when they are devoted to the interests of the people we serve. after our meetings today, i will say that the relationship between india and the united states has never been stronger, has never been better. i am proud to announce to the media, to the american people, into the indian people that prime minister modi and i are world leaders in social media.
we are believers. giving the citizens of our countries the opportunity to hear directly from their elected officials and for us to hear directly from them. i guess it's worked very well in both cases. i am thrilled to salute you, prime minister modi, and the indian people for all that you are accomplishing together. your accomplishments have been vast. india has the fastest growing economy in the world. we hope we are going to be catching you very soon in terms of percentage increase. we are working on it. in two weeks, you will begin to implement the largest tax overhaul in your country's history. we are doing that also, by the way. could creating great new opportunities for your citizens, improving infrastructure, and fighting government corruption, which is always a grave threat
to democracy. together, our countries can help chart for an optimistic into the future, one that unleashes the power of new technology, new infrastructure, and the enthusiasm and excitement of very hard-working and very dynamic people. i look forward to working with you, mr. prime minister, to create jobs in our countries, grow our economies, and create a trading relationship that is fair and reciprocal. it is important barriers be removed to the export of u.s. goods into your markets and that we reduce our trade deficit with your country. i was pleased to learn about and indian airlines recent order of 100 new american planes, one of the largest orders of its kind, which will support thousands and
thousands of american jobs. we are also looking forward to exporting more american energy to india as your economy grows, including major long-term contracts to purchase american natural gas which are being right now negotiated. trying to get the price up a little bit. to further our economic partnership, i'm excited to report that the prime minister has invited my daughter ivanka to lead the u.s. delegation to the global entrepreneurship summit in india this fall. i believe she has accepted. finally the security partnership between the united states and india is incredibly important. both our nations have been struck by the evils of terrorism, and we are both determined to destroy terrorist organizations and the radical ideology that drives them.
we will destroy radical islamic terrorism. our militaries are working every day to enhance cooperation between our military forces and next month, they will join together with the japanese navy to take part in the largest maritime exercise ever conducted in the vast indian ocean. i would also think the indian people for their contributions in the fight in afghanistan and joining us in applying sanctions to the north korean regime. north korean regime is causing tremendous problems and is something that has to be dealt with and probably dealt with rapidly. i truly believe our countries can set an example for many
other nations, make great strides in defeating common threats and make great progress in unleashing amazing prosperity and growth. prime minister modi, thank you again for joining me today and for visiting our country and our wonderful white house and oval office. i enjoyed our very productive conversation this afternoon and look forward to its continuation tonight at dinner. the future of our partnership has never looked brighter. india and the united states will always be tied together in friendship and respect. prime minister modi, thank you very much. thank you.
you from the bottom of my heart for this warm welcome. >> eboni: ica humbleness and sense of humility from president trump with the way he was engaging with prime minister modi. even the tone of his voice, the pacing. it's a softer side of president trump, still a strong leader but i like that side. >> eric: narendra modi, prime minister, they embraced. it's going to be noteworthy. president trump said we are true friends, talking about india and the united states, with shared values and a shared constitutional democracy. importantly, he mentioned north korea. don't forget how imminent and important moratoria is on the world global stage for security. if you get india and you get the world on north korea.
you get china involved as well. it will go a long way. >> lisa: comes on the heels of president trump's very successful trip abroad both in europe as well as meeting with the gulf states, talking about these issues. terrorism. how do we work together, intelligence sharing, ways to combat some things we see. we saw the latest wave of attacks in europe with isis and we saw secretary mattis say we are not winning the war in afghanistan and that changes need to be made. this is a timely and important conversation with india's leader. >> eric: kris, it needs to be noted india has nukes. >> kris: yes, and india is right next to pakistan and in the center of this part of the world where radical islamism has some of its hotbeds. 100 more planes provided by the united states to a close ally is a good thing.
it changes the balance against isis and against some of the harboring countries. this is all good for the u.s. fight and the war on terrorism. >> eboni: when we call for the world coalition against north korea, this is what this looks like. >> eric: good to have a new partner on your side. >> eboni: and the other thing i like is the president giving deference and discretion rather to secretary mattis on the issue of what to do. who knows better than the defense secretary? c5 ari, you said "i agree." >> ari: north korea is a major problem and has been for some time. the problem is they have nukes, they have nuclear warheads. we can't do what the israelis did to the iraqis and go bomb them. india is a major ally.
we can't start a nuclear war. >> eric: nonnuclear methods and disable their nuclear program. >> lisa: what is the intelligence like? we've got to leave. we are going to have this conversation during the break. coming up, government websites hacked by a group spewing pro-isis propaganda. u.s. sending more troops to afghanistan. later, it is the eve of something very special for mr. eric bolling. that's coming right up. just like the people
"the fox news specialists." our specialists are kris kobach and ari aramesh. nearly a dozen government websites in ohio as well as new york and maryland hacked this weekend by a group spewing pro-isis propaganda. the group posted a message professing love for the terrorist group. as well as a warning to president trump and the american people. obviously no one wants to see isis growing in this direction. digital and social media imprint has been a humongous problem. how do we contain it? >> kris: there are some things being done. as the head of a government agency, we are constantly worried about people hacking. now that isis, or isis sympathizers are getting into the hacking game, it increases the importance of us taking government -- taking every measure we can. this elevates the importance of it. putting out a message, a
pro-isis message, on the front page is bad but it could be a lot worse. haven't seen them hack and get into the database is the governments have. >> eric: has hillary clinton blamed her loss on this group? >> lisa: not yet but there is still time. wait until tomorrow at least. >> ari: wait until trump tweets about it tomorrow morning. the problem here is cybersecurity is much more torrent, -- more important. as isis becomes more irrelevant and they lose more ground in iraq, they are going to lose more ground in syria, our coalition in the north is pushing through and we are going to shoot on any plane that goes over our guys. we're not going to take the empty russian threat seriously. i don't know why they did it. maybe they thought trump was bluffing. if they shoot down american planes, you can make sure, be
rest assured the u.s. will respond. isis becomes more and more irrelevant. they are going to go into cyber and do lone wolf stupid attacks driving through people, driving with cars and attacking people. we have to be careful about the consequences. it's good news that they are dying down, they are losing ground. the bad news is we have to make sure we are ready for these sorts of attacks. >> kris: it makes the immigration system all the more important so the travel bans, refugee screening becomes more important. there's going to be more incentive to go to europe over the united states. >> ari: not a single person from iran, syria, sudan, yemen, libya has killed a u.s. citizen on u.s. soil since --
there is a threat. there has to be a proportionate response. you want to block off religious refugees, christians, jews, muslims. they want to flee syria and iran to come here. that is bad policy. isis is happy about it. it's propaganda for them. >> lisa: even the previous administration, officials admitted that one of the big problems with countries like syria is difficult when the country itself doesn't have the databases like we do in america. it's difficult to check and be aware of the individuals. we have seen reports of isis being able to print fake passports. that's a big concern as well. i think the concern is fair about vetting, particularly from countries like syria. these countries in the travel ban are either state sponsors or harbors of terrorism. >> eric: if we had a president
hillary clinton, she was going to quadruple the refugee progra program. she wanted to do 400,000 or 500,000. >> ari: over ten years. >> eric: no, no, absolutely wrong. she wanted to quadruple the refugee program. >> ari: we precleared them. it's not as if they were going to get on a plane, 150,000 next weekend. >> eboni: you said earlier you believe in vetting. then the question becomes, if you believe in it and we all agree in it, how do you reconcile that with what we know to be very challenging, if not doggone near impossible problems around how to successfully vet from places like syria where we don't have the ability to do it. >> lisa: why wouldn't we want to make the vetting process stronger? a short window, 90 days or 120
days. why would you not want the process to be as strong as possible. >> ari: we should ask questions, do background checks. a wholesale ban is un-american. >> kris: every time you go to refugee program, it's a long interview. >> ari: refugees make great immigrants. they assimilate better because they know they will never go back. >> eboni: we have to wrap but we will circle back when we return. we have a special surprise for eric bolling. stay with us. n-no, no sir you ever wanna dance on a reality tv show? i like to dance..... dad, come on. joining my family means he can join navy federal credit union. great rates, 24/7 support.
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>> eric: it is time to circle back but first it seems everyone is on sale in washington, d.c. d.c. is in a sad state of affairs. it was announced bernie sanders the socialist man of the people is under an fbi investigation for bank fraud, the same bernie sanders that preaches against income inequality. in my new book "the swamp," we take a look at the swamp and it's not just about the mind-blowing scandals of the past and present. it offers a future where we can start draining the murky waters. president trump has my book. i offer him dozens of solutions to restore faith in washington.
term limits, lobbying bands, the swamp is ready to be drained. president trump is just the man to do it. it is time to circle back with our specialists. kris, you are on board with the trump train from early on. can he drain the swamp? >> kris: the swamp is so vast and deep that it will never be completely drained. putting limits on how soon you can start lobbying, that can be easily done. term limits. that's a heavy left because you've got to get congress to vote for it. we can push for it. >> eboni: you are running for governor, and i want to know what your thoughts are on the state level, many people hate this type of bureaucracy even at the state level. >> kris: term limits are one of the things i am pushing for
in kansas. we need it. the state to have it get new blood and new ideas. >> lisa: you are a national security expert. what's the biggest challenge we face as a country? >> ari: the rise of china and threat to the global order that russia and china pose. i am less concerned what small regional powers like iran and saudi arabia. i am concerned about big powers like russia and china or india. go back to start with -- what happened in 1914 and 1939. small powers misbehaving is a problem. you have to put a lid on it. big powers misbehaving trying to destroy the global order in place since 1945. that is the fight of my generation. cybersecurity is very important. hard fighting is also important. >> eric: think you two are fox news specialists, kris kobach and ari and mosh.
ari aramesh. >> i am bill hemmer in for bret baier. the numbers are in in washington. congressional budget office out with its projection on the effects of the senate republican health care bill. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel has the latest from the capital trade good evening. >> congressional budget office projects that over the next ten years 22 million people would lose coverage compared to the 23 million that would lose coverage in the house bill. it also projects deficits will be cut by $321 billion. that's more than $200 billion better than the house bill. the cbo says that after premiums go up next
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